Make sure to follow Natalie! x.com/ContraPoints Also, I am not currently working for or being paid by Progressive Victory. Edit: Also, please give me suggestions for good clip-on mics for these kinds of interviews! I need to use mics that can also work with my phone if necessary.
If you're looking for clipon mics specifically, that can work with phones. Then the Rode Wireless GO II or if something cheaper the Rode Wireless ME are good options.
when you target groups of people and you want to appeal or relate to them, you kinda act in ways that they understand you, its different with like close friends
Natalie's perspective on art is so genuinely and gently phrased, the way she talks about her passions just makes me a) want to listen to her for hours, and b) protecc her forever and ever and ever.
50:30 dammn I really felt that sigh... That's stress and anxiety being relieved in the moment, you can really tell how much having this platform and all those impossible expectations thrown on her has done to her well-being. I can't even imagine the weight. She's such an incredible person, kind, compassionate, loving, intelligent, and she absolutely does not the deserve the abhorrent treatment she gets online by some segments of the left. We as a community need to value her as a powerful voice, and constantly emphasize how much she means to us because it cannot be easy to be in such position. Love you so much Natalie, you are my favorite voice in the world for years now!
Thank you for the opportunity to watch Natalie being invited to”person to person” talk show type of interview, the video and conversation magnificently fascinating in every minute of it, Natalie has previously stated that she feels shy when around people and in meetups, her shyness adds to her exclusivity and elegance, she truly a school of intellect and articulation and a universe unto herself.
im glad you got to do this interview, because youre friends with Contrapoints (on some level idk) you actually get to talk about deeper subjects than the standard interview “who are you” questions. . . . . . . (the only thing i will critique is that the audio could be better, maybe add some gain because its so quiet)
Thanks! I may reupload this in the future with improved audio (I used the same equipment I did for the previous interview, and nobody complained about that; part of this is that Natalie is just legitimately more quiet irl) but I'll be mainly looking at getting better equipment for future interviews (though the recommended microphones to use for these kinds of videos are $200+ so it may be a bit lol)
@@artemisspawnofzeus7732What the heck are you blind they're both wearing lapel mics also are you deaf every time the mic moves around there's a horrific scratching sound get your facts right
I think what makes natalie so great both at arguing a point and also portraying contrary viewpoints is because she has a certain amount of empathy for even her harshest critics that she disagrees with. Like she said she finds pathos and she is drawn to learn about people who would make interesting stories because of their internal conflicts. She has talked about being good at arguing with nazis because she used to be an edgy teen reactionary and so understands their ideas even if she no longer agrees with them, she has grown to a point where she confront those ideas and match them with her reasoning
Hey, great interview, I'd just add that maybe you wanna go over how you record your guests? The audio quality is not great, which may turn off many off the videos. You can either fix that slightly, in post or make sure you have good audio quality before. Lavaliere mics are not that expensive, maybe you wanna consider getting new ones ;)
In case you want some tips: Additionally, you wanna get some if those bigger 'poofy things' for your mics - is see you used some, but they didn't buffer against movement (you did great in the interview, but I did want to scream 'please god stop touching your jacket' ;) Also the audio level is not the same for both mics (the pick up sound might be the same, but the voices have a different level of loudness, fixable in post ;) ).
Nice to see this interview but it is very hard to hear or understand Contrapoints in this video, being too far from the mic or the quality of the mic makes it difficult to understand
Yay!!! I've already watched all of the Contrapoints videos....around 3 times each. And I'm subscribed to her Patreon and have seen all the Tangent videos. _And_ have watched/listened to every interview she's ever done. So this was an excellent surprise! 2 HOURS of conversation with Natalie? Love it. I find her mind and thoughts fascinating and rather entertaining. Tho...does the sound seem off to anyone? Is it just my computer? It sounds real thin and tinny. And like uncompressed or something...I can barely hear what's being said at times. :( I really hope it's just an issue with my speakers maybe...? Anyone else?
I enjoyed the content of the video, thank you for making it, but I have some constructive feedback. I think that the video would have benefited from some editing, the audio was not very good and I think that Riley needs to work on improving her interviewing skills.
The interview itself was fine and interesting imo, but I respect your opinion on that so I'm not going to argue with you. I do agree the sound quality definitely needs some improvement. I had to watch this at full volume on my phone and it was still a struggle at times to hear.
What do you mean "improve interviewing skills"? It seems like she had pre-prepared questions, and was pretty good at pivoting if Natalie didn't feel comfortable answering a question.
I was getting annoyed by Rileys figdeting but then she mentioned she has ADHD and it made sense. Thinking about it, I like she's not a typical interviewer and just being genuine.
This discussion at 38:29 on the topic of streamers getting elected into office has already happened in the EU with Cyprus having elected streamer Fidias as one of its representatives
She's a lot more timid than in her main videos. Even in her streams she has a similar vibe, I think it's the difference between scripted videos and a live reactive setting.
I think it's bc she looks down while Riley is talking. She makes eye contact when she is speaking, though. Which I totally relate to, since I do the opposite 😅 I think some people just absorb information better when you're not adding the layer of interpreting face and body language.
@@celisewillis Yeah, I totally get that too. Eye contact can be kinda distracting. But I also found the way she was moving at times to be kind of rigid. It reminded me a bit of people when they're stoned I guess. I read that she's on some medication again. Maybe that had something to do with it.
@@2003jackb Yeah, that's true. I noticed that in other unscripted interviews. But still she seemed different here to me. Sort of stiff and rigid and not very responsive in her behaviour. Just made me worry a bit because it's the kind of behavior that you see with people who have strong anxiety or other disorders so I just hope she's doing okay right now.
I think if she is struggling then you should delete this comment for her health, If she's fine then maybe you should delete this to stop misinformation I trust Natalie has better support systems than her fans, and if she doesn't I don't think she'd be in the state of mind to do this interview Our girls probably fine worse case scenario she takes a break
Is this new or like an old video that's been reuploaded? I'm asking mostly because I remember rileys audio on streams a few years ago being a whole lot better so I have no idea how this audio seems like the mics been in a drawer the whole vid
I had no problems with the audio quality. Contrapoints can sometimes (most times) come across as a bit to challenging for the foolish. Her dark humour laced with sarcasm and loaded with truth is never meant to be anything but her veiws. Love Natalie. So glad her videos are long and she doesn't saturate this space. 🦄
@@celisewillis Also accusing a child trafficking victim of enabling PDFilia for not condemning foot fetishists walking barefeet in public. I kinda doubt that this comment will stay up.
she used to be a leftist streamer, one day she freaked the fuck out on stream and started banning people from her chat, then she went into an anti-kink pipeline and after that aligned herself against socialism.
I haven't seen faded blue jeans with interwoven flowering since the '70s...groovy. yes, Natalie, you have the "Boomer" vote. btw, this was so boring...bad microphones, could hardly hear...not much to hear anyway.
She makes eye contact when she speaks! I think some folks just process info better without the added layer of interpreting body language. At least, that's why I avoid eye contact haha
Riley, as the interviewer it's your job to be interested enough in your guest to bring us along. Two or three times you asked her something by saying that you were a little interested in her opinion which seems really disrespectful and doesn't inspire us, the audience, to listen. I kind of care what you think about what I'm saying. 😊 Also, thanks for doing this interview.
My read is that Natalie is just made uncomfortable by the overly assertive energy of Riley and trying to counterbalance, keep the energy more flowy and reciprocal. The content of what Natalie is saying is astute as always, so she seems on point to me 🤷🏻♀️
Natalie is more reserved and quiet like this on streams. She's obviously listening and answering questions thoughtfully...which doesn't strike me as someone who is high lol. And Riley is just fine.
Make sure to follow Natalie! x.com/ContraPoints
Also, I am not currently working for or being paid by Progressive Victory.
Edit: Also, please give me suggestions for good clip-on mics for these kinds of interviews! I need to use mics that can also work with my phone if necessary.
If you're looking for clipon mics specifically, that can work with phones. Then the Rode Wireless GO II or if something cheaper the Rode Wireless ME are good options.
“have something to say before you talk” she’s so real for this
Seeing Natalie outside of her channel is weird so she's more quiet, silent
she's still a philosophy major at heart
i make videos for myself and it can be like watching another person; i relate hard
when you target groups of people and you want to appeal or relate to them, you kinda act in ways that they understand you, its different with like close friends
She actively listens
Natalie’s jeans are killer.
So is the interview 👍🏻
Some great points stated.
Natalie's perspective on art is so genuinely and gently phrased, the way she talks about her passions just makes me a) want to listen to her for hours, and b) protecc her forever and ever and ever.
Riley's back !!! And Contrapoints! Here for it!!!
I have never seen Natalie in a room with another person before
50:30 dammn I really felt that sigh... That's stress and anxiety being relieved in the moment, you can really tell how much having this platform and all those impossible expectations thrown on her has done to her well-being. I can't even imagine the weight. She's such an incredible person, kind, compassionate, loving, intelligent, and she absolutely does not the deserve the abhorrent treatment she gets online by some segments of the left.
We as a community need to value her as a powerful voice, and constantly emphasize how much she means to us because it cannot be easy to be in such position.
Love you so much Natalie, you are my favorite voice in the world for years now!
Ryley: "I don't know if you know about the narcissism of small differences."
Contra Vietnam blacking out for a second : "I am aware...."😅😅😅
This is the greatest crossover since Bayonetta making her way into Super Smash Bros.
Thank you for the opportunity to watch Natalie being invited to”person to person” talk show type of interview, the video and conversation magnificently fascinating in every minute of it, Natalie has previously stated that she feels shy when around people and in meetups, her shyness adds to her exclusivity and elegance, she truly a school of intellect and articulation and a universe unto herself.
im glad you got to do this interview, because youre friends with Contrapoints (on some level idk) you actually get to talk about deeper subjects than the standard interview “who are you” questions.
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(the only thing i will critique is that the audio could be better, maybe add some gain because its so quiet)
Thanks! I may reupload this in the future with improved audio (I used the same equipment I did for the previous interview, and nobody complained about that; part of this is that Natalie is just legitimately more quiet irl) but I'll be mainly looking at getting better equipment for future interviews (though the recommended microphones to use for these kinds of videos are $200+ so it may be a bit lol)
@@RileyGraceRoshong you're doing your best with what you got, and that's what matters 👍
So unbelievable happy to see you back. You're work is incredible.
please please please get a better mic!! really interesting convo but the boxy audio is almost unlistenable
Super quiet too, I have all my volume settings at max and am still struggling to hear
Get 2 lapel mics insted of tryingnto boom the room
@@artemisspawnofzeus7732What the heck are you blind they're both wearing lapel mics also are you deaf every time the mic moves around there's a horrific scratching sound get your facts right
Tuned in for the cute clothing and set aesthetics, stayed for the really insightful questions and answers.
I think what makes natalie so great both at arguing a point and also portraying contrary viewpoints is because she has a certain amount of empathy for even her harshest critics that she disagrees with. Like she said she finds pathos and she is drawn to learn about people who would make interesting stories because of their internal conflicts. She has talked about being good at arguing with nazis because she used to be an edgy teen reactionary and so understands their ideas even if she no longer agrees with them, she has grown to a point where she confront those ideas and match them with her reasoning
WHAAAT! AND it's 2 hours long? Heck yeah heck yeah
Hey, great interview, I'd just add that maybe you wanna go over how you record your guests? The audio quality is not great, which may turn off many off the videos.
You can either fix that slightly, in post or make sure you have good audio quality before. Lavaliere mics are not that expensive, maybe you wanna consider getting new ones ;)
In case you want some tips:
Additionally, you wanna get some if those bigger 'poofy things' for your mics - is see you used some, but they didn't buffer against movement (you did great in the interview, but I did want to scream 'please god stop touching your jacket' ;)
Also the audio level is not the same for both mics (the pick up sound might be the same, but the voices have a different level of loudness, fixable in post ;) ).
Im so happy about this crossover
please adjust the audio, it's really hard to listen to, Natalie is whispering and then BOOM Riley shows up 15 db higher
Huh, I'm listening with headphones and I'm not getting that. Is it a playing-out-loud thing?
contra is giving lana del rey here
I just started watching and I already love it ❤🎉
Is nice to see u both collab and nice to see you both again 🙂
Nice to see this interview but it is very hard to hear or understand Contrapoints in this video, being too far from the mic or the quality of the mic makes it difficult to understand
Gotta be honest, this would've worked better as podcast with both os them just talking into a mic
They are talking into mics! I think Natalie might just be naturally quiet
Yay!!! I've already watched all of the Contrapoints videos....around 3 times each.
And I'm subscribed to her Patreon and have seen all the Tangent videos. _And_ have watched/listened to every interview she's ever done. So this was an excellent surprise! 2 HOURS of conversation with Natalie? Love it. I find her mind and thoughts fascinating and rather entertaining. Tho...does the sound seem off to anyone? Is it just my computer? It sounds real thin and tinny. And like uncompressed or something...I can barely hear what's being said at times. :( I really hope it's just an issue with my speakers maybe...? Anyone else?
Incredible to see two of my favourite people on yt together
I enjoyed the content of the video, thank you for making it, but I have some constructive feedback. I think that the video would have benefited from some editing, the audio was not very good and I think that Riley needs to work on improving her interviewing skills.
The interview itself was fine and interesting imo, but I respect your opinion on that so I'm not going to argue with you. I do agree the sound quality definitely needs some improvement. I had to watch this at full volume on my phone and it was still a struggle at times to hear.
What do you mean "improve interviewing skills"? It seems like she had pre-prepared questions, and was pretty good at pivoting if Natalie didn't feel comfortable answering a question.
I was getting annoyed by Rileys figdeting but then she mentioned she has ADHD and it made sense. Thinking about it, I like she's not a typical interviewer and just being genuine.
You can get really cheap wired lav mics that sound professional and like a field recorder for interview set ups
Riley you have been missed in the space! Great to see you again hope everything has been well
Oh damn, welcome back to making content Riley!
ContraPoints I love you😭💕💘
Daamn, I wasn’t ready for it😩💔💔
Cant' hear them very well
Natalie is so beautiful, I’m so proud of her
This discussion at 38:29 on the topic of streamers getting elected into office has already happened in the EU with Cyprus having elected streamer Fidias as one of its representatives
man i want to enjoy this but the audio quality is killing me
In Riley's Living-Room (IRL)
Audio is not great.
It's weird seeing Natalie in a different setting other than her living room.
Is Natalie doing okay? I don't know but she seemed a bit off and almost catatonic sometimes when she wasn't speaking. Hope she's doing alright.
She's a lot more timid than in her main videos. Even in her streams she has a similar vibe, I think it's the difference between scripted videos and a live reactive setting.
I think it's bc she looks down while Riley is talking. She makes eye contact when she is speaking, though. Which I totally relate to, since I do the opposite 😅
I think some people just absorb information better when you're not adding the layer of interpreting face and body language.
@@celisewillis Yeah, I totally get that too. Eye contact can be kinda distracting. But I also found the way she was moving at times to be kind of rigid. It reminded me a bit of people when they're stoned I guess. I read that she's on some medication again. Maybe that had something to do with it.
@@2003jackb Yeah, that's true. I noticed that in other unscripted interviews. But still she seemed different here to me. Sort of stiff and rigid and not very responsive in her behaviour. Just made me worry a bit because it's the kind of behavior that you see with people who have strong anxiety or other disorders so I just hope she's doing okay right now.
I think if she is struggling then you should delete this comment for her health, If she's fine then maybe you should delete this to stop misinformation
I trust Natalie has better support systems than her fans, and if she doesn't I don't think she'd be in the state of mind to do this interview
Our girls probably fine worse case scenario she takes a break
Oh wow, wasn't expecting this, feels like forever since we've seen you!
So Grimes's "Artangels" started playing in my head after reading their body language lol.
Riley absolutely deserves this guest.
thank u for platforming smaller creators
Rileys back, we need you rn
Big W
both of you are awesome
i cannot hear much w/o headphones tbh
My older-middle-aged dad is generally pretty offline, but he makes an exception for Jenny Nicholson videos and I think that's kind of iconic.
Hells yes! The best video to make a comeback with and it would be awesome to see Riley in a Contra video . Are you and Destiny still on good terms?
OMG!!!!!!!
Is Natalie okay here?
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed her being quite off here. It seems like she's dissociating af whenever she's not talking.
Yes, our Natalie seems nervous.
I’ve seen other interviews with her. She’s just kinda like this
Autism. This is what they are like in reality outside of an edited video
@@Jeremy-wp4yh Can you not play armchair psychologist?
Is this new or like an old video that's been reuploaded? I'm asking mostly because I remember rileys audio on streams a few years ago being a whole lot better so I have no idea how this audio seems like the mics been in a drawer the whole vid
I had no problems with the audio quality. Contrapoints can sometimes (most times) come across as a bit to challenging for the foolish. Her dark humour laced with sarcasm and loaded with truth is never meant to be anything but her veiws. Love Natalie. So glad her videos are long and she doesn't saturate this space. 🦄
so excited to see where this goes!!!
incredible comeback
no way the goat is back
Spot on about art
Your parasocial internet mommy robbed more than a hundred thousand dollars from the trans community
The audio quality is pretty bad tbh. Can barely understand what you’re saying.
*_The_* Riley Grace Roshong? Back? On the INTERNET? The long-awaited return!
hoooow did she get that interview?!
they know each other.
can someone turn on the volume? it's barely audible
I’m just finding Riley…can someone fill me in about her previous public persona and disappearance? 🙏🏼
Probably just working on other stuff IRL. I don't think it was drama-related or anything.
@@celisewillis Also accusing a child trafficking victim of enabling PDFilia for not condemning foot fetishists walking barefeet in public.
I kinda doubt that this comment will stay up.
@@guguludugulu it is still up
she used to be a leftist streamer, one day she freaked the fuck out on stream and started banning people from her chat, then she went into an anti-kink pipeline and after that aligned herself against socialism.
I haven't seen faded blue jeans with interwoven flowering since the '70s...groovy. yes, Natalie, you have the "Boomer" vote. btw, this was so boring...bad microphones, could hardly hear...not much to hear anyway.
Natalie's jeans are gorgeous
Its no mea culpa BUT Natalie so yay
Unsure if my prior comment was auto deleted or not within guidelines. Apologies. I thought i was being affirming.
Contrapoints is literally never making eye contact??
Maybe she's autistic? Don't stress
Contra is like me on that Spectrum tis'ing it up!
She makes eye contact when she speaks! I think some folks just process info better without the added layer of interpreting body language. At least, that's why I avoid eye contact haha
Is that a crime? 😅
Think she's just socially awkward haha
Riley, as the interviewer it's your job to be interested enough in your guest to bring us along. Two or three times you asked her something by saying that you were a little interested in her opinion which seems really disrespectful and doesn't inspire us, the audience, to listen. I kind of care what you think about what I'm saying. 😊 Also, thanks for doing this interview.
Yo?? Natalie? 🧡🧡🧡
Fix that mix pls
yeah not a good idea to put the only mic on your clothes that move a lot
Back with a vengeance.
8:31 When watching Contrapoints videos I sense a lot of RedLetterMedia influence in the way that she builds a joke. 😇
Except that she's not nearly as good at it. Points to her for trying, though... but she's no Mike Stoklasa.
Leading questions and bad audio
Great to see you back! 🎉
That time when Nathalie agreed to do an interview but then forgot to not smoke 3 joints earlier that same afternoon.
It seems deeper than that. It made me feel sad. Contrapoints seems to be very off for not so good reasons.
My read is that Natalie is just made uncomfortable by the overly assertive energy of Riley and trying to counterbalance, keep the energy more flowy and reciprocal. The content of what Natalie is saying is astute as always, so she seems on point to me 🤷🏻♀️
I’m sticking with my high af theory. Occam’s razor.
@@anapontopina86 Same. Also cringe that Riley didn’t notice and just published this.
Natalie is more reserved and quiet like this on streams. She's obviously listening and answering questions thoughtfully...which doesn't strike me as someone who is high lol. And Riley is just fine.
My two worlds collide
Why no one told me of this video???
I really love this side of Natalie. The counter point is way too over the top for me.
I guess I'm seeing in a tripartite institutional intersection to use the femme parlance
❤
Apparently Trump listened to this podcast and answered by going on Aiden Ross' twitch stream.
yay. politicians getting involved in online discourse.
The convergence is gonna happen for better and for worse 💀
@@RileyGraceRoshongoh god!!!!
This interview gives high levels of autism and I love that lmao
that´s very insulting to actual autists
@GenderRebelMusic and to Natalie Wynn as well
Imagine asking Contrapoints to introduce herself.
Audio is trash
yup unfortunately...
@@PixelPenguin77 Yeah... but you sorta get used to it after a while. Need good headphones though.
I wouldn't say it so crassly, but yes, she could Tighten Up the Audio on Level 3.
A bit on the low end, but clean
Contra looks incredibly sad
I agree. I hope she's taking care of herself.
That Cassandra syndrome aura
@@coreyander286 She has autism?
@@hpb714Does she?
@@LorcaLoca I looked up cassandra syndrome and tht's what it said
...scrolling - scrolling - contrapoints - *click*
MOTHER
Great to see these two, but gotta say Natalie seems pretty medicated here. Works regardless.
Why say this?
@@michaelmon1337 Natalie is/was struggling with substances abuse, be careful what you say about her online please.
@@michaelmon1337 For someone to perhaps explain why for example.
or just nervous since she doesn't really do interviews like this
@@hartyewh1 It's probably the tea
Riley you were right about everything pls never leave us again
She dug in on some really stupid shit. Not that it's a big deal but she absolutely was not right about everything
You still exist?
Contra looks bored af. Also a bit zonked out
I get bad vibes from this person. The same kind of bad vibes I get from Judith Butler (and most continental philosophers, if I’m being honest)
okay. why?
"My background is moderatly fancy" you dont say with that proper ass dialect 😭💀
HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY OML. So many of yall dont got shit to say lmfao.
When you click on a vid that sounds interesting, but it's just a summary of a more popular video on the same topic 💀