Little Guys 5: Three Of Them [MediaSite / NCR N3000]

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  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
  • It took three computers to fix one that wasn't broken.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:36 Mediasite overview
    08:04 Mediasite innards
    12:25 Crappy mini-ITX machine
    16:21 Troubleshooting the Mediasite
    19:16 Mediasite disassembly & analysis
    25:29 NCR N3000 disassembly & analysis
    35:05 Firing up NCR N3000
    41:26 Fixing the Mediasite
    44:02 Firing up Mediasite
    44:22 INVADED BY DARK SPIRIT
    44:56 Testing capture cards & software
    47:42 Conclusion / Outro
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  • @daemonspudguy
    @daemonspudguy 21 день тому +531

    Needing 3 computers to fix one that isn't actually broken is a Certified Cathode Ray Dude Moment™.

    • @lucyinchat
      @lucyinchat 21 день тому +4

      Correct Spud

    • @BrunodeSouzaLino
      @BrunodeSouzaLino 21 день тому +18

      Hey at least it isn't a "I found a near mint 5K iMac in the trash" type of video.

    • @Fay7666
      @Fay7666 21 день тому +6

      I'm facing a similar situation: as-is X299, turns out it goes through the whole boot sequence (in the 7-segment readout) just fine but still doesn't show image. And I'm figuring out it has an IPMI that I can't find the access to, and a VGA port that I don't have the header for.

  • @Codename_Thumblesteen
    @Codename_Thumblesteen 21 день тому +32

    "Soba you are not ESD safe"
    Sickest own of the century. Absolutely ROASTED. Way outta pocket.

  • @elektrokinesis4150
    @elektrokinesis4150 20 днів тому +21

    funny realization that NCR seemingly could easily make a better silent HTPC than Niveus Media

  • @netsurferx1
    @netsurferx1 21 день тому +98

    Quite the healthy engine on Soba, I must say.

    • @bluewombat
      @bluewombat 15 днів тому +1

      Who cammed that cat? 🤣💀

  • @kriskehrer6410
    @kriskehrer6410 20 днів тому +26

    The minor-key rework of the "Lets ask the Internet" theme for the appearance of Soba is absolutely great!
    Yes, I am a music nerd.

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 20 днів тому +4

      Oh, so THAT'S what the tune is. Clever.

  • @BlackravenX9
    @BlackravenX9 21 день тому +17

    It brightens my day when one of Gravis' cats interrupts a video. My favorite little guys.

    • @catfish552
      @catfish552 19 днів тому +2

      So fluffy, so beautiful ❤
      I love creator pets, they're always a delight when they make a surprise appearance in videos or streams.

  • @swordgun25
    @swordgun25 21 день тому +56

    ‘Little guys’ officially in my vintage computer lexicon now… just labeled a tote full of them.

    • @MOS6582
      @MOS6582 20 днів тому +4

      +1, it’s perfect
      “SFF” is awful to say and to hear. Every other label is some string of words you’d find on a flyer from the most boring stand at a boring tradeshow.
      “Little guys” brings on an urge to think up unnecessary computing tasks just for the fun of getting to deploy computers everywhere.

    • @AngelaTheSephira
      @AngelaTheSephira 18 днів тому

      But I have a SFF that is CERTIFIABLY not a lil guy

  • @maxpower9708
    @maxpower9708 21 день тому +200

    Oh, the hidden functionality. I remember how we bought a phone for my dad many a year ago. The data sheet said that it didn't have a micro sd slot, but when I opened it to install the mini-SIM card -- there it was, a micro sd slot. It worked and the phone detected it and could use it.

    • @der.Schtefan
      @der.Schtefan 21 день тому +9

      This is not the slot you're looking for!

    • @kintustis
      @kintustis 21 день тому +1

      What phone?

    • @Fay7666
      @Fay7666 21 день тому +33

      ​@@kintustis their dad's

    • @kintustis
      @kintustis 21 день тому +2

      @@Fay7666 lol but what model?

    • @Wyatt_James
      @Wyatt_James 21 день тому +30

      I have an old action replay DSi, without an SD slot. After it bricked itself years ago, I eventually found a cable at Goodwill, and summarily unbricked it. I also found out about the version with a micro SD slot online. I cracked mine open and, sure enough, the pads were there. I cut up a laptop motherboard to harvest its full-size SD slot, soldered it on with some miserable kynar wire, flashed the SD version's firmware, and presto! It works perfectly.

  • @maplesmusicarchive
    @maplesmusicarchive 21 день тому +102

    ah yes, INVADED BY DARK SPIRIT, my favourite thing to do with little guys
    edit: okay i thought this was going to be some kind of cursed software error BUT IT WAS THE BEST LITTLE GUY WE COULD HAVE EVER SEEN

  • @AnonymousFreakYT
    @AnonymousFreakYT 21 день тому +100

    I worked at Intel when that generation of board was being developed. I don't recall ever working directly with this model, but definitely with some of its siblings. Intel reused the basic "block" for many boards, which is why you'll often see reference to multiple different boards as being the same. Because they often are. Either physically identical circuit board with a different chipset (H77 instead of Q77 maybe,) or different on-board features (only one NIC, no mPCIe, "full height" mITX, mATX, etc. In fact, on many of Intel's later "full ATX" motherboards, you can _clearly_ see that it's just a Micro ATX board with some extra PCB with a couple extra PCI/PCIe slots. Some even have literal "perforations" that allow you to physically snap off the "extra past mATX" bit!) I still have a pre-production DQ67SW board with an engineering sample Core i7-2600S in a low-profile chassis as a "spare gaming machine". (with Radeon R5 240 that I should probably upgrade, IIRC.)

    • @CathodeRayDude
      @CathodeRayDude  21 день тому +28

      This is fascinating, thank you!

    • @MOS6582
      @MOS6582 21 день тому +11

      @@CathodeRayDudeHi Gravis and to OP, many apologies to spam your comment but for laziness and dumb app reasons this is how I’ll tell Gravis that the RL220 mediasite variant has a very very good Datapath capture card with full RGB digital capture up to 4K30/1080p60, no chroma subsampling nonsense as with Avermedia. And some of the earlier 2RU and suitcase style mediasites have analog/DVI Datapath cards, also awesome quality 1200p60 and above (160hz? something high) and both can be had for less than the going price for the capture cards alone. Again excuse me barging in thank you

    • @DigitalJedi
      @DigitalJedi 20 днів тому +8

      I was at Gigabyte during this time period and worked on boards a lot like this one. We were a collaborator on the design of these little ones, and I also have a funny engineering sample guy living back home. Mine is mATX and got what should be an i7 3770, but instead just shows "GENUINE INTEL PROCESSOR" and has no iGPU, so I guess 3770F. Funnily enough I ended up working at Intel a few years after and now do chip fabrication R&D, so the circuits just got a lot smaller between then and now. That little ES board and a 750ti I found in the trash are my couch PC now.

    • @AnonymousFreakYT
      @AnonymousFreakYT 20 днів тому +5

      @@DigitalJedi The great Intel tradition of dumpster diving. I got a first-generation i7 Extreme with dual Radeon 4870X2s and dual Velociraptor hard drives because it had gotten roughed up in shipping. All the components worked fine, though!

    • @DigitalJedi
      @DigitalJedi 20 днів тому +6

      @@AnonymousFreakYT It doesn't stop even internally either. There is one of probably very few socketable Meteor Lake-S chips on my desk. It's very useless as no chipset will ever support it, but man is it funny to flip over a CPU and there's just pads for extra pins.

  • @neighborsgoat
    @neighborsgoat 21 день тому +156

    Hey! Sonic Foundry rings a bell: Soundforge was created by them, before Sony purchased it.

    • @tonicblue
      @tonicblue 21 день тому +8

      Knew I'd seen that name before. Thanks!

    • @MrJeroendemuzikant
      @MrJeroendemuzikant 21 день тому +5

      Yep, I had the same thing. That name sounded familiar. And I placed a reaction about it a minute ago... And then saw this reaction placed 5 minutes ago. 😁

    • @cromulence
      @cromulence 21 день тому +5

      Yup, surprised to see that name still! I thought Sony purchased all their assets but it seems they still exist doing… stuff?

    • @sgeneralgrievous
      @sgeneralgrievous 21 день тому +10

      Vegas video too!

    • @PXAbstraction
      @PXAbstraction 21 день тому +12

      And Vegas and ACiD music too. I had a totes legit copy of Sound Forge 4.0 back in the day. :) And Sony proceeded to sell all that software onto Magix, who quickly made them irrelevant. I mean, they were arguably relevant under Sony's reign too, but yeah. Edited the first few years of my own channel on Vegas before I moved to Resolve.

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 20 днів тому +14

    That green anodized aluminum is a bold choice and I certainly like it.

  • @gromph4
    @gromph4 21 день тому +48

    It is always fascinating to me to find little guys like this out in the wild because the only time you do is when they are not working. There are a number of buses in my area that are supposed to tell you the next stop(visually and audibly) that are just stuck in a boot loop, and who can forget the next checkout indicator at a pharmacy that was just stuck on the grub bootloader for probably a decade.

  • @roypennock8046
    @roypennock8046 21 день тому +27

    Sometimes I'll be watching someone else's video and someone will say "two of them..." and I will find myself mildly disappointed when the kittens don't appear... 🤣🤣

  • @PaulRiismandel
    @PaulRiismandel 21 день тому +150

    I worked in educational technology and media production in the aughts through 2013 and deployed several Mediasite boxes in smart classrooms for recording lectures and presentations. This was before Zoom and the like were practical, and so you needed a system to quickly capture computer display output and combine with standard video without any setup on the presenter’s computer. It was a reliable and scalable solution at the time.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 21 день тому +5

      It probably still is seeing how crapple keeps being incompatible with everything you plug. Or if you're brave enough to do any sort of presentation on linux.

    • @jessi74
      @jessi74 20 днів тому +7

      This dug up a long-forgotten memory. When I went to medical school starting in the year 2010, they had a setup of these in all the lecture halls. Not only would media site allow you to stream a live lecture, it also allowed you to play back a recorded lecture at a faster speed. It was reliable and available minutes after the lecture finished. They had the system in place for a number of years before I even started. Certain lecturers would not allow their lectures to be recorded because they wanted in person attendance.

    • @flp322
      @flp322 19 днів тому

      TU Delft had this system too when I was there (pretty sure they still do!) It must have been this exact system, as the website to play back lectures was based on this ‘MediaSite’ software, and re-visiting it now, it does contain links to SonicFoundry’s website (which has an out-of-date certificate, hilariously).
      I remember the operators had this kind of portable rig on wheels with everything they needed (including camera). They’d just wheel it into the lecture hall of whatever lecture they’d be recording and hook it up. I think there was also one lecture hall with an experimental permanent setup.
      A nice thing was that they always had two video feeds: one for the camera, and another for the lecturer’s computer screen (i.e. slides). The player played both simultaneously, and you could also speed up playback (very handy for boring lectures…) It worked remarkably well.

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat 21 день тому +8

    Soba may not be ESD-safe but she is OSHA certified

  • @der.Schtefan
    @der.Schtefan 21 день тому +19

    Fun fact: if you ever have an ear worm stuck, just replace it by thinking of the Intel jingle. It is long enough to push past the 1-2 second we perceive as "now", yet not long enough or suitable to loop. It will break any looping sound.

    • @DigitalJedi
      @DigitalJedi 20 днів тому +5

      Unless you work at Intel. In which case, that sound is permanently engraved into your brain. Please help.

    • @GP1138
      @GP1138 20 днів тому +2

      The dead silence after that jingle I think is what does it. For me at 39 years old it comes with the rising hiss associated with broadcast audio companding and VHS noise.

    • @sivalley
      @sivalley 15 днів тому

      My brain just cross-connected the Intel and Nokia jingles and it's helllllllll

    • @Iristallite
      @Iristallite 10 днів тому +1

      great, now the intel sound is my earworm

  • @cojawfee
    @cojawfee 20 днів тому +5

    That's why mediasite looked so familiar to me. My school uses this for class recording. It records a camera pointed at the front of the classroom as well as the professor's screen. Once class is over, the video is automatically added to canvas. Kind of creepy on days when there's no class but it still records an empty classroom.

  • @erik23ize
    @erik23ize 21 день тому +17

    46:06 vMix MultiCorder which is a built-in feature actually does recording multiple sources to separate files really well, it even creates an .xml file that you can import into Premiere and it creates a synchonized sequence automatically that makes multicam editing very easy, we use it at work almost daily and I can't even imagine how many hours of copying files from multiple SD cards and synchronizing footage it has saved me. I wish OBS could do it too.

    • @CathodeRayDude
      @CathodeRayDude  21 день тому +4

      Wow, thank you for the recommendation, I'll have to look into that.

  • @BSFJeebus
    @BSFJeebus 21 день тому +12

    this is why I've told myself, anytime someone brings me a dead system, pull the board out first, slap it on a desk, and test it there, so many times I've had issues with the chassis or a short, and no one thought to just pull everything out and start with the basics. I've saved so many systems with this one simple trick. I expected this outcome, lol, as soon as you said it was dead "watch, if he pulls the board it'll work for the lulz"

    • @Incommensurabilities
      @Incommensurabilities 18 днів тому

      Absolutely. One of the ram slots wasn't working on an old motherboard I had. Turns out there was a loose motherboard screw shorting out that slot. Removed the screw, ram slot worked. Nice!

  • @4l6ag3
    @4l6ag3 21 день тому +33

    "there is a whole cottage industry that makes things that's only purpose is to do video streams for people who don't know how to set up video software"
    I can for, uh, job reasons confirm this is absolutely true and this stays true from the low level like churches and universities and stuff all the way up to the highest most expensive levels for hollywood movie production. Every movie you've ever seen by the mouse company has gone through a box not much different from this one.
    I'm shocked that that is windows! Gear in this kind of space is one of the places where linux seems more common than windows for this kind of appliance thing.

    • @brandonallen2372
      @brandonallen2372 20 днів тому +2

      Setting up the software is the easy part. Training the users is the hard part, provided they are even willing to learn in the first place.

  • @funkmon
    @funkmon 20 днів тому +6

    These videos going absolutely wild are the best parts man. You have genuinely stumbled on computer/AV nerd crack. It doesn't matter how half-cocked your commentary gets because you're honest about it and it's exactly what any of us would do when faced with the same situations: Google what is intriguing and massively overlook everything else, get distracted by a more interesting project and fuck everything up until some natural end.
    The thing is, it's not actually the content of the video. You make excellent videos. Your editing and voiceover are getting so good that you're keeping these exciting. You know what we find exciting and informative and focus on that. It's amazing.
    Like, I wouldn't be mad if this was your whole channel. I would be sad at the loss of the great videos on mouse balls and stupid removable media that go on for 5 hours, but this is excellent.

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen 21 день тому +44

    I like geeking out with you, nobody else really does videos like these and little industrial computers are definitely good geeking out material.

  • @huntereddy4014
    @huntereddy4014 21 день тому +18

    When I was young my father was working for NCR on a team that was working with fully contained point of sale kiosks. While POS isn’t the most exciting stuff in the world to me, he was working in software for movie rental kiosks and more than once we got to see and play around with the demo units in his office YEARS before Redbox or similar was common.
    I have no clue what kind of hardware was inside one of those kiosks but I’m sure it was an off the shelf unit NCR already was using and with the decline of movie kiosks I wouldn’t be shocked if some of the machines running the software my dad wrote got out into the wild. I couldn’t help but have some aimless hope you’d show us the NCR machine and it comes up with logos and software from the machines I remember seeing at my dad’s office 20 years ago.

  • @Shmoozo55
    @Shmoozo55 20 днів тому +4

    The "Thin Mini ITX" is an older standard created by Intel (I think) that in addition to being notably thin (and came with both a regular and a low profile I/O shield) it had its CPU socket specifically located off further toward the PCIE slot side of the board which facilitated special cooling solutions that ran heat pipes past that PCIE slot edge of the board to a heat sink that was oriented to allow front to back air flow in the very thin cases to cool the CPU. These boards had external power supply jacks like the one on the board you have which allowed for the use of external power bricks.
    Those odd connectors along the front edge of the board were, in fact, a few different types of display panel connectors. One of them was an oddball internal display port connector. These were employed when the boards were used inside electronic signage or kiosk products that had the display panel and the motherboard integrated into the same chassis.
    That motherboard also has a redundant internal power supply header back in the same corner as the external connector so an internal power supply could be used.
    These kinds of motherboards were generally set up to use lower TDP versions of desktop CPUs. They are the ones that have a "T" at the end of their model number, as, for example, the Core i5-3470T which has a 35 watt TDP.
    Interesting products, but not especially commonplace in the PCs most of us have lying around.

  • @mikewifak
    @mikewifak 21 день тому +14

    Sonic Foundry also made the Acid loop sequencer. It was pretty great back in the day.

  • @StraightOuttaJarhois
    @StraightOuttaJarhois 20 днів тому +3

    I love the NCR N3000. Look at that subtle lime-green coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god, it even has dual heat pipes! Definitely one of the most handsome little guys I've seen.

    • @sivalley
      @sivalley 15 днів тому

      I love the subtle American Psycho reference.

  • @saysheate197
    @saysheate197 21 день тому +11

    Great vid all-around, but the Soba purring footage was the best part.

  • @alankingvideo
    @alankingvideo 21 день тому +22

    The 19v Dell connector is not a centre positive connector. It actually has 3 conductors. The tiny centre pin is a control pin. The negative is the outside of the barrel, and the positive is the inside of the barrel.

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 19 днів тому

      Ohhhhh really? I've never knew that and always thought that's such a slimsy connector

  • @Null_Experis
    @Null_Experis 21 день тому +9

    All the reset-cmos pin does is short the power supply to the SRAM to ground. If you don't unplug the battery, it still supplies power to the SRAM, you're just discharging the battery very quickly.
    It WOULD work if you left it shorted for 20-30 minutes.
    The chassis on that "crappy" ITX machine is that large because it's a standard form factor piece for beefier ITX boards.
    that dead space on top is perfect for a FlexATX PSU, which would open up the possibility of 200-300W builds. The only thing is' missing is the spot-welded bracket, a cutout on the rear, and some screw holes. With the double-width low-profile expansion slot, it makes for a nice little set-top box to hook up to a TV.

  • @Nukle0n
    @Nukle0n 21 день тому +23

    HP swapped to a thinner plug, we found that out by surprise at the refurbishing operation i worked at, because our universal laptop power supplies didn't have adapters for those. Luckily i realized that we also got the docks for the machines in the shipment (the docks used the old power supply plug), so we could prop the docks up on the deletion/testing stations and get them processed without having to get out a hundred of the power supplies also and having to figure out ways to hook them up. Never got even a pat on the back for that...

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 21 день тому +7

      Thank you for your service to corporate laptop erasure, Bubger Kirg.

  • @fluffyfloof9267
    @fluffyfloof9267 21 день тому +4

    23:23 those offset SATA ports are for SATA-DOMs, which usually are a bite wider than the socket - you'll figure the rest out.

  • @MrJeroendemuzikant
    @MrJeroendemuzikant 21 день тому +15

    Sonic Foundry sounded very familiar to me. Years ago I used audio editing software called Sound Forge. And indeed, that was from Sonic Foundry as well.

  • @ADJLfanatic52
    @ADJLfanatic52 21 день тому +13

    "It took three computers to fix one"
    Reminds me of Techmoan's CED saga where he had to buy three CED's to try to fix them (and because the players were cheap apparently).

    • @dodecahedron1
      @dodecahedron1 20 днів тому

      2 of them were used to fix the second one and technically all but the first one are fully functional, they just have to share the stylus, the first one was entirely broken because it was stored in the same pond as the discs, the second was brand new but was never fully assembled because the plug had been incorrectly wired and the third was only needed to get a stylus and a clean lid for the second one

  • @jenniferwagner4595
    @jenniferwagner4595 21 день тому +5

    I have worked on varied embedded systems for automatic cashiers, coin counters, video surveillance, etc. That NCR is a pretty cool cat. I worked on them in restaurants and they run the POS for the whole restaurant / bar. They are pretty sweet and are bullet proof. I see these guys stacked up on a managers desk covered with paperwork from ten years ago along with the cable modem, network switch, etc. Most of the time they send them back to the Mothership , so I never get to keep them when they are replaced every five to ten years.

    • @simcapener6935
      @simcapener6935 20 днів тому +1

      They get sent back to ExpressPoint in Texas to get reworked & get put back into service.

  • @aprillovelock4260
    @aprillovelock4260 21 день тому +6

    oh heck yeah! NCR machines, I used to work with these a bunch in the albertsons and what not around the west coast. this was a great episode

  • @MikeStavola
    @MikeStavola 21 день тому +5

    Oh... That goober ITX system's case... I tried helping someone who had a pallet of them. She got them new for $10 each, and they were apparently sold for $19 in Shenzhen, and we're supposed to sell for $40 in the US market. She ended up sending all of them to a scrapper because absolutely nobody would buy them at $10 plus shipping.

  • @Nabeelco
    @Nabeelco 21 день тому +4

    46:00 What you're describing is called "Iso recording" or isolated/isolation recording. It's very common and done in video production all the time. Wirecast can do iso recordings of all your inputs if set up correctly. I used to do this for work many moons ago.

  • @screamingturnip
    @screamingturnip 21 день тому +4

    15:43 I just loved that heat sink, I wanted to believe in it because it was aesthetically appealing

  • @zacharycoleman1117
    @zacharycoleman1117 21 день тому +9

    My college used devices similar to these. They would automatically record during class and then they would appear on the class’s page in our grading/assignment platform. It was basically only set up for the largest of classes (400+) prior to Covid. During the times when the classes went in person optional in Spring 2021 and beyond it was a lot more common for smaller classes to have this set up. You could both watch live and also see a recording afterwards. Very handy in case you couldn’t remember something that was said out loud but wasn’t on the slides.
    They were controlled with a roughly iPad sized device that allowed it to decide which cameras to show, and which computer screens. The screen also decided how the professor’s computer was displayed in the larger rooms. (Ex: one big screen, or emulate having two smaller projectors side by side each with a copy of the screen)
    The ones we had could record multiple video streams at once, and in the playback you had options of how to display them and which one you wanted to see the largest. (Whiteboard, computer screen, etc)

  • @sp0ck1p
    @sp0ck1p 21 день тому +12

    This is practically becoming a regular Monday thing, and it's so good to have around on a Monday. I don't expect it, but I keep receiving it. I'll take as much as you've got.

  • @DvdXploitr
    @DvdXploitr 20 днів тому +2

    My kitty must have heard your kitty's purr....she came running onto my lap! (Beautiful cat!)

  • @alanduhamel2885
    @alanduhamel2885 21 день тому +8

    That Atom motherboard came with the heatsink. There was no option to go without it because Atom is an embedded SoC, so conventional ITX thermal solutions don't mount properly. I remember seeing that exact one in Fry's circa 2009-2010 (Rip)

  • @endymallorn
    @endymallorn 21 день тому +4

    The Soba visit was perfect.

  • @gudenau
    @gudenau 21 день тому +3

    Those capture cards are really cool and I have a hyper specific project idea for them.

    • @MOS6582
      @MOS6582 21 день тому

      Hyper specific projects are the best projects. Good luck👍

  • @NobodyYouKnow01
    @NobodyYouKnow01 19 днів тому +1

    *drops computer, camera shakes and I can feel it through my screen*
    CRD: "…Yeah maybe that didn’t do it for ya."
    Man's sarcasm is on point today LOL! Keep up the good work.

  • @saberpeep
    @saberpeep 21 день тому +4

    The fact that it has an option to make the intel noise at startup really shows you that they really wanted to be an iMac

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 17 днів тому

      IIRC my full ATX desktop board from them has the same option.

  • @the-bizzy-bee
    @the-bizzy-bee 20 днів тому +3

    soba's invasion music both scared me and made me go awe

  • @Nukle0n
    @Nukle0n 21 день тому +9

    It's interesting that they've chosen to tie earth-ground and negative together on the NCR model. It would mean that in the case of a broken power supply with the polarity reversed, the entire chassis would become live, quite the electrocution risk.

    • @CathodeRayDude
      @CathodeRayDude  21 день тому +5

      Well in that case you'd also have 110v hitting the DC ground so the PSU wouldn't survive long enough to get plugged in I think. But yeah, it seems odd.

    • @Nukle0n
      @Nukle0n 21 день тому +3

      @@CathodeRayDude Well a reversed polarity normally shouldn't mean anything, but if the laptop power supply was plugged in to an incorrectly wired outlet and suddenly experienced some failure due to shoddy manufacturing (unrelated to the outlet), you'd hear a pop and wonder why the computer wasn't working, grab it and... maybe get a bit of a shock.
      Probably unlikely but having things earth grounded tend to be for pretty rare and freak occurences.

    • @baaelectronics
      @baaelectronics 20 днів тому +1

      Well, it's the earth ground, not the AC neutral, that's tied to (-)DC, so inherently it being a switching PSU at all would isolate the DC from AC lines regardless of the AC hot side.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 20 днів тому

      @@baaelectronics "Well actually" ... ANY power supply has to be galvanically isolated, not just switching. There's still going to be a transformer between mains and output, so the output will be floating with respect to mains (ergo polarity is irrelevant), and unless double-insulated, the chassis ground is almost certainly going to be tied to mains earth.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 20 днів тому +1

      To clarify on my previous comment (because I just got to the NCR part of the video), the supply brick has a 3-prong plug. If it didn't tie DC negative to earth, there would be literally no point in having a 3-prong plug at all. So, in this case, _of course_ it passes through earth ground.
      The 2-prong plug bricks are double-insulated, meaning there is no way (barring truly catastrophic failure that should not occur due to fusing, etc.) for mains to reach the DC output side. THOSE will not have earth on the DC negative. Everything on the secondary side is floating WRT mains. Although, if you plug that brick into a device that interfaces with anything else (a monitor, an audio amplifier, etc.), it will probably end up grounded through that interconnect anyway.
      And that ^ is the reason for the Zero-ohm resistor. If you want a safety earth, but have an issue with ground loops (due mostly to bad electrical wiring or connections to other poorly-designed devices), you can replace that 0R with something else -- like a capacitor, to shunt RF noise to ground but isolate DC, or a higher-value R to provide a weak (DC) path to ground, etc. It's always cheaper to change a production line to use a different component than to redesign and replace the whole PCB, so it's a safety net that lets you alter the grounding technique as needed in the future.

  • @mattelder1971
    @mattelder1971 21 день тому +5

    That NCR would actually make a cool little home theater PC, since it has HDMI output. My current one runs on a similar 3rd Gen i5. Add some external USB drives for your media and a wireless keyboard, then you'd be all set.

    • @cdigames
      @cdigames 21 день тому +3

      A fully passively cooled home theater PC? I dunno.. seems far fetched.

    • @mattelder1971
      @mattelder1971 21 день тому

      @@cdigames As CRD pointed out, the passive cooling in that is likely MASSIVELY overbuilt. And with a coat of paint, it would blend right in with many amplifiers.

    • @cdigames
      @cdigames 21 день тому +7

      @@mattelder1971 It was more of a jab at the fact that concurrent with this series, CRD has been showcasing the works of Niveus, whose whole thing was passively cooled home theater PCs

  • @not_just_burnt
    @not_just_burnt 21 день тому +5

    that Tunic sticker... the meaning of it just clicked last episode. im now deep into the lore of the game and itll be always sweet seeing it again ^^
    everyone go play that game aaaaaaaa

  • @langam7017
    @langam7017 21 день тому +5

    Thin ITX is still a thing.
    Most modern AIO PCs use custom boards though. Because of course they do. Imagine your PC being thicker than 2cm? I don't have that much room!

  • @hackbyteDanielMitzlaff
    @hackbyteDanielMitzlaff 21 день тому +7

    Five out of Five Stars for the Molex to Wago Hack.
    Been there, done that. ;)
    Shoot .. that mini diagram is to cute ;)
    More cat inspections necessary!!

  • @ianatkin542
    @ianatkin542 20 днів тому +1

    Sonic Foundry were the creators of Sound Forge (audio editor) and Vegas Pro (video editor, now owned by Sony). They pivoted into the distance learning space after selling off their wares. I lived and worked in Madison WI for a number of years. It's a small enough town that you eventually know everyone and anyone working in technology and doing software development. I probably wouldn't have heard about them otherwise.

  • @kellingc
    @kellingc 20 днів тому +1

    I've been loving your "Little Guy" series. It was a joy listening to you get excited about your finds.

  • @chrisblammo123
    @chrisblammo123 20 днів тому +1

    missed opportunity to make the title incredibly confusing with Little Guys 3: Part 5 (Three), really good video as usual :)

  • @Jacobhopkins117
    @Jacobhopkins117 21 день тому +3

    41:13 I relate so hard to being 13 abstraction layers deep in troubleshooting only to find that kind of solution.

  • @RachelMant
    @RachelMant 20 днів тому +1

    The header on that control board at ~43:50 is the easy part if the board design makes a jot of sense - 6 pins, PIC18F part number on the micro, means it's the programming interface for the micro, set out so as to accept a PICKit2 or 3 to allow program and debug. The 4-pin header just between the USB connection and the micro is probably a tap point on the USB lines.

  • @raulburriel
    @raulburriel 20 днів тому +1

    OK! Lecture capture appliances. You're in my world now!

  • @lfla0179
    @lfla0179 20 днів тому +1

    I loved every second of the jank. I miss my Philips DVD recorder with integrated hard drive, because I BET that thing was a little guy disguised as an AV equipment.

  • @OpenKeith
    @OpenKeith 18 днів тому +1

    love how the "highlight" marker in sponsorblock is set to the moment Soba walks in

  • @plushifoxed
    @plushifoxed 20 днів тому +1

    i picked up my very own Little Guy thanks to you: a Dell OptiPlex 7040 Micro. it was cartoonishly cheap on eBay for the specs, and I'm currently undertaking an ill-advised attempt to Hackintosh it. Fun times.

  • @DaraelDraconis
    @DaraelDraconis 19 днів тому

    Thanks for including the Soba segment in the video. Excellent cuteness.

  • @dustinhipskind7665
    @dustinhipskind7665 20 днів тому +1

    That NCR system looks like it would make a really good firewall device.

  • @jongmassey
    @jongmassey 21 день тому +2

    These were used extensively at my Alma mater (University of Bristol) for recording lectures and making them available online (via Blackboard IIRC)

  • @DJ29Joesph
    @DJ29Joesph 21 день тому +1

    It's a digital streaming codec. We used those in big auditoriums so people on Facebook could watch the town hall. We also used them for an auto auction to make it an online auto auction with live bidding. They were quite simple. Avaya did this and a few other VTC bridging companies did as well. I belive the touch panel was called the AMX Modero.

  • @c0l0nelp0pc0rn
    @c0l0nelp0pc0rn 20 днів тому +1

    LOL, I used to work at the repair depot that fixed up these N3000 units. Not a bad little computer!

  • @webmasale
    @webmasale 21 день тому +1

    Gotta love that you went through that much trouble just to demo the machine for one minute

    • @CathodeRayDude
      @CathodeRayDude  21 день тому +7

      The moral of this entire series is that the journey is the destination

    • @webmasale
      @webmasale 21 день тому

      @@CathodeRayDude And what a ride!

  • @slipperynickels
    @slipperynickels 20 днів тому

    making garlic toast and my jaw dropped at those capture cards. additionally, they’re ADORABLE.

  • @ondrejsedlak4935
    @ondrejsedlak4935 20 днів тому

    That funky looking copper heatsink/fan on the Mediasite is actually a pretty expensive and heavy duty cooler for 1U server systems.
    I use it myself in several servers that require very low profile coolers as I need the space for a 10GB network card hovering close to the cooler.
    The damn thing sounds like a jet engine when at full speed.

  • @Cmdad
    @Cmdad 20 днів тому

    Thanks for doing this video, I could listen to you chatting about this stuff all day.
    The green machine is really great looking, nice to see a properly bit of kit.

  • @DouglasWalrath
    @DouglasWalrath 21 день тому +1

    DC plugs not having a screw on connector in consumer hardware is a feature, not a bug
    the idea is if you trip over the cord it'll just unplug instead of dragging whatever hardware it's connected to crashing down onto the floor

  • @LetsPlayKeldeo
    @LetsPlayKeldeo 21 день тому

    I have to say that little guys is one of my favorite series, like just seing you find them neat is like the coolest part of the videos :3 It makes me happy seeing you happy

  • @Skukkix23
    @Skukkix23 20 днів тому

    Hey Gravis, I hope you doing great. Content is absolutely on point and I literally watch through them. Wish you a great week.

  • @ChiefArug
    @ChiefArug 20 днів тому

    Another entertaining geeking out session with CRD! Thoroughly enjoyed watching, thank you!

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 17 днів тому +1

    43:52 I think those unpopulated round pads are for through-hole LEDs ( CR reference, flat on circle), which would make sense. Looks like it has pads for SMD RGB LEDs

    • @CathodeRayDude
      @CathodeRayDude  17 днів тому

      Yeah, that seems clear enough, and it was my first guess when I looked at the board, but the designation threw me off. I've never seen "CR" on a PCB before in my life, and I can't find any examples of it denoting an LED, just people who sound as confused as I am finding it next to normal diodes. There's some suggestion that it's the archaic term, "crystal rectifier." I can imagine that showing up on a board decades ago, but it seems wild that it showed up on something made in the 2010s.

  • @franklincerpico7702
    @franklincerpico7702 21 день тому

    Man you are really knocking it out with this series. Nothing like it on UA-cam that I know of.

  • @nadiayorc
    @nadiayorc 20 днів тому

    I for one can't wait for the long awaited sequal to this series: Big Guys

  • @ThickpropheT
    @ThickpropheT 19 днів тому

    "I've seen it work before, I dunno why it's not working now." Yeah, sounds like a capture card to me.
    Also, you should for sure rock the 3770 in there. That's what I'm running right now! It's a pretty good lil guy.

  • @DigitalDiabloUK
    @DigitalDiabloUK 18 днів тому

    Definitely going to add one of those NCRs to the shopping list. That heatsink would be awesome for an in vehicle solution.

  • @bobingabout
    @bobingabout 20 днів тому +1

    15:05 I have a case similar to that... not that exact version, but... in mine, it actually takes some mini-ITX power supply that fills the void you have at the top in that orientation.
    This case looks (to me) like they've just taken the standard case, and just not cut the holes for the power supply.

  • @Jdvc-yd5tx
    @Jdvc-yd5tx 4 дні тому

    The green heatsink alone is worth £50. The worst part is if you take that stuff from the local recycling center in my town (here in Great Britain) you'll be handcuffed and jailed. A total dystopia - and I'm lovin' every second of it. lolol..... 😂 🍾 🥂

  • @TbM
    @TbM 20 днів тому

    Good old german WAGO-Klemmen... you can find them in nearly every german household, hidden inside the walls behind light-switches or inside distribution boxes. They make really great products...

  • @ssokolow
    @ssokolow 20 днів тому

    As soon as you said "It's made by Sonic Foundry", my mind went back to one of the pack-in CDs from the USB CD-RW drive we had in the late 90s and I said "The 'ACID Music' people?"

  • @MJP_985
    @MJP_985 18 днів тому

    that NCR 3000 was built to be the "server" side of a on-premise client/server POS system or similar. passively cooled, redundant drives, stick it on a shelf in the closet next to the rest of the required tech stuff (isp modem, cheapest 8 port switch possible, voip box, etc) and completely ignore it til someone from corporate IT shows up to mess with it.

  • @thejo6331
    @thejo6331 19 днів тому +1

    that PCIe Mini capture card is the true little guy

  • @Roxor128
    @Roxor128 20 днів тому

    The Crappy Mini-ITX Machine's case probably has all that space to the side of the motherboard to allow for a small form-factor power supply that gets used on models that run off mains power, rather than the 12V barrel jack. Going by the angle at 13:55, it looks like the back panel could be swapped out for one with a cutout for such a power supply.

  • @K3NnY_G
    @K3NnY_G 21 день тому +1

    44:23 - 44:57 - I was enjoying the video; but this is what told my brain to 'like' the video.

  • @PXAbstraction
    @PXAbstraction 21 день тому +1

    10:29 Depending on when this particular box was built, I wonder if they were using new old stock Sigma Designs chips. That company liquidiated back in 2018 and hadn't been doing much for a couple years before then. Would certainly have helped them lower costs.

  • @professorbadvibes695
    @professorbadvibes695 20 днів тому

    Great video, loved the surprise fix and Soba appearance

  • @braelinmichelus
    @braelinmichelus 20 днів тому

    These industrial computers in general, but especially those Intel μITX boards seem perfect for making DIY projects.
    Like a tiny NAS, low-end web server, video capture system, retro games emulator, or anything else you can do with a computer.
    They definitely have the capability to outperform, and probably be cheaper than a Raspberry Pi. Good choice for the same kinda use cases.
    I'd love to see what you could do with them! Such as maybe make a DIY cube tricaster...

  • @cromulence
    @cromulence 21 день тому

    These thin mini itx boards are cool. I had a couple and yes, did install an i7 4770 into one. With the huge HP laptop brick (140W?) it worked a treat.
    Had a second one with an i5 4590T that I ran as a daily hackintosh for a few years. It worked amazingly well, everything worked. Dual screen HDMI output too. Aaaand, I got a thin mini ITX case from aliexpress which was tiny - literally the size of the motherboard with special thin mini ITX backplate which is half atx as you mentioned. The HDD even had a bracket to sit over the top of the motherboard. Super cool.

  • @dieKatze88
    @dieKatze88 21 день тому +1

    Oh those little capture cards are sick. I remember trying to find some of those back in the day and unable to find anything less than like 500 dollars a whack.

  • @eDoc2020
    @eDoc2020 17 днів тому

    The MediaSite reminded me of the livestream with the PTZ cameras quite some time ago. It took about half of the video to realize that's exactly what it was. That was one of the few streams I've made it to.

  • @ivy_47
    @ivy_47 21 день тому

    Nothing like a new Little Guy to relax to after a good day of learning (:

  • @Xe4ro
    @Xe4ro 20 днів тому

    Ha, I was just revisiting the other Little Guys yesterday. Nice timing :D

  • @slowtrigger
    @slowtrigger 21 день тому

    I get so happy when i see one of these pop up!

  • @Karmazym
    @Karmazym 21 день тому

    i love it when you call us "nerds", its softening up my ego for sure

  • @lonergothonline
    @lonergothonline 17 днів тому

    I don't believe I'm correct on this but around 15 minutes in I couldn't help but speculate that those empty spaces inside the chassis could be for mounting with like double sided tape, the power brick, and the reason there's two is so you can have two of them, one being redundant. (on purpose redundant, so, the second one would be intentionally redundant). I was just imagining those grey metal box power supply units for servers, long, short width but tall.
    I figured you could just put the FSB power brick inside the case and cut the chassis to expose the power cord connector for the power supply brick. This does away with the unnecessary expense of adding the screw lock mechanism for the DC barrel jack input, cutting costs immeasurably.

  • @Kafj302
    @Kafj302 21 день тому

    i just thought of an interesting use for that power supply. set it up as your doorbell button. if it's someone you don't want to see right now make it red. if it's someone you do want to see make it blue, and if you need a few minutes make it pulse that many times. set it up with three buttons on multiple remotes inside, "red", "Blue" and blue with a little dial to select pulses. oh i know ring door bells exist and have voice and stuff, but more fun to watch people watch the blinking.