SEA DOTA PLAYERS ASKING FOR HIGH SALARY | JOHNXFIRE & MLPDOTA DISCUSSION

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    SEA DOTA PLAYERS ASKING FOR HIGH SALARY | JOHNXFIRE & MLPDOTA DISCUSSION

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  • @ESCDOTA
    @ESCDOTA  4 місяці тому +1

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  • @d1r3wolf8
    @d1r3wolf8 4 місяці тому +5

    Point for the older players is that:
    1. Most of these players already get close to that amount through sponsors/streaming. So for them to get less just to be with an org and compete is absurd.
    2. They'll get more if they played in other regions.

  • @uniteadventures3454
    @uniteadventures3454 4 місяці тому +2

    They have to compute for Purchasing Power Parity comparing US and PH salaries. For example, if a top DOTA player from states has a salary package of $10000 and the said player will transfer to PH, the salary should be around PHP 192,695 only - considering the purchasing power parity. It shouldn't be way over the top.

  • @Giiyooo
    @Giiyooo 4 місяці тому +3

    That's a sad truth right now at SEA region. I can see potential in the TNC stack with Kuku idk about palos though, all of them are hungry to win even without salary. I hope they stay together

    • @ESCDOTA
      @ESCDOTA  4 місяці тому

      Support TNC all the way. 🤗

    • @alishmael4618
      @alishmael4618 4 місяці тому

      Nawala na yung, goal for the prize, masyado ng dependent sa salary,

  • @manOfTheSaltpans
    @manOfTheSaltpans 4 місяці тому +6

    seems to me that the guy who paid the players suck at negotiation, of course it wont be sustainable; but the players will want to negotiate for the best possible contract. And the orgs who paid just suck at negotiating, cant really blame the players for asking the max possible.
    also lets no forget the talon issue where they didnt pay the player's tournament winnings

  • @erwinvlsqz
    @erwinvlsqz 4 місяці тому +7

    Sad truth: SEA players unlock their potential when playing with non-SEA teams

    • @DannyRoy09
      @DannyRoy09 4 місяці тому +3

      Kinda true this was the case with Gabbi when he was on Entity.

    • @JMVsln
      @JMVsln 4 місяці тому +1

      I don't think so, entity qualify to TI12 not because of Gabbi. They also finish 9-12th at ti12 though. The best example is TNC with kpii and March. 5 pinoy player is trash team, 3 pinoy in one team is a good decision.

    • @DannyRoy09
      @DannyRoy09 4 місяці тому +1

      @@JMVsln They qualified to TI12 because they found a missing piece, they were struggling with Tobi as their offlane. It was a good run considering the team was relatively new

  • @rowee017enzo
    @rowee017enzo 4 місяці тому +7

    10K USD WTF! Shameless hahahaha! Funny how SEA player ask for high salary but haven't prove anything yet.

    • @miguelmartinnapiza761
      @miguelmartinnapiza761 4 місяці тому +1

      funny for SEA player who havent proved anything yet, but for major winner players it normal.

  • @ruweee4443
    @ruweee4443 4 місяці тому +3

    New players thinks they are worth the same as the superstars just because they made it to pros. It's crazy how these players that can barely win anything, are asking to be payed in gold. Let your skills decide your salary.

  • @mcChsr
    @mcChsr 4 місяці тому +3

    to be fair, from the start blr is deemed to fail, the CEO openly said that its TI or DISBAND. with only 1 year without time to have chemistry, and player changes every month.

    • @ESCDOTA
      @ESCDOTA  4 місяці тому

      what do you think is the root problem then?

    • @louisevirtudazo2822
      @louisevirtudazo2822 4 місяці тому +2

      No orginazation team in the world would keep a team that is keep failing. If the players are shit, just replace them, thats the reality

    • @louisevirtudazo2822
      @louisevirtudazo2822 4 місяці тому +1

      Chemsitry is stupid you only need like 2 or 3 qualifiers, if you keep failing then disband or replace player

    • @Cj-vc5ll
      @Cj-vc5ll 4 місяці тому +2

      well it is hard to maintain that team with the salary of the players coming from gabbi himself on one the streams when they talk about salaries i think 10kusd is not that far off even some saying abed gets 20kusd a month so yeah the CEO was right to ask them to qualify or win TI money is not free especially running that expensive team here at the philippines when that CEO has a succesful Mobile legends team that shows result yeah dota and ml tournament prizepool is vastly different but on ML tournament that CEO's team wins championship in one of the interview he said he doesn't need BLR to make money but he likes dota that's why he is trying to make a team that can play at the same level with the other regions but sadly I think they are done

    • @pjanicattheisco6991
      @pjanicattheisco6991 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ESCDOTA I personally think that Tryke actually didn't want to build a Dota team. Hence the unrealistic goal. Blacklist forming a Dota 2 team might be an idea of a sponsor. I read somewhere that Blacklist is sponsored by the org behind ESL/Esports World Cup.
      Imho, if Blacklist genuinely want to build a Dota team, they would've basically took out a page of the winning formula of TNC months before Covid-19

  • @anjerogaming
    @anjerogaming 4 місяці тому +3

    10k is half a million, thats absurd request wth

  • @carylemaemackenzie3674
    @carylemaemackenzie3674 4 місяці тому

    I think most of the old players already have families and they needed to segregate their prioritize in life. I think they still want to win at least 1 trophy in their career. Just my assumption. If new good players come in the scene. It will be a more competitive environment for everyone.

  • @proud.pinoy.578
    @proud.pinoy.578 4 місяці тому

    The reality is even the team loose still they win a bet on the opponent. Maybe that is how an org survives now adays. Team play to loose but win the bet. Its Impossible that blacklist stay long on the game unless they dont run this schemes. Sad but true.

  • @glennpaul3859
    @glennpaul3859 4 місяці тому

    To be honest, 10K USD is to much for a region that dont perform good in major events.
    Hopefully orgs like Blacklist give up like Fnatic. This force Veteran and New players to be more serious and grind. They need to prove first that they are still international caliber before they deseve even with just 2 to 3K USD salary.
    Top SEA player looks like they only want to secure money than win matches.
    Esports is new sport which is win based situation unlike Basketball that had more money resources due to sponsorship and marketing exposure in mainstream media.

  • @elvindexterlee7524
    @elvindexterlee7524 4 місяці тому

    Organizations that I know of that own teams aren't really there to profit. That isn't one of their goals.

  • @MarkAnthony-ln5sz
    @MarkAnthony-ln5sz 4 місяці тому +1

    Well dota teams in other regions pay more, even though they are also not winning. So why can’t SEA players ask for the market value?

  • @Andrew-wism
    @Andrew-wism 4 місяці тому +1

    Let's be real guys, it's not SEA players, it's just players from one country and a couple of players from the rest of SEA country. I think it's okay if they were putting results like old Talon/Aurora, they deserved those 10k, but if they just become a mediocre tier 1 team in SEA who can't even get to TI?? bruh gtfo

  • @rthur7720
    @rthur7720 4 місяці тому

    original video got deleted?

  • @JMVsln
    @JMVsln 4 місяці тому

    10k is too high but we don't know how gambling works. There is a lot money in gambling they can pay more than 10k per player especially if you are involved to fix game. They want high caliber player who can do game fixing. Hahaha. High caliber player + game throw = a lot of money that how is works mlp.. Ahahaha

  • @dice494
    @dice494 4 місяці тому

    not to hate but this guys i could smell from my screen that they are poor tryng to open a business now they tryng to lower the employes standard just for there own benifits like dont even go into business if ur poor cuz u would end up like this guys complaining how they couldnt afford ppl to work for them😂

  • @poi7603
    @poi7603 4 місяці тому +1

    10k usd for a pro player with no fan support is too high. Just look at kuku. He is very popular but his popularity doesnt translate to any money for the org. You wont even see filipino fans wearing those tnc shirts. This is true for almost any SEA pro. Compare that to their EU counterpart. Aside from winning, their players sells.

  • @knix2274
    @knix2274 4 місяці тому

    Where did you get all that data. Thats a fakenews

    • @ESCDOTA
      @ESCDOTA  4 місяці тому

      they are casters so maybe they got information from dota players.

    • @louismamon169
      @louismamon169 4 місяці тому +1

      Bro Kuku and Gabbi are so proud talking about salaries.

  • @damaskus123-pw4rn
    @damaskus123-pw4rn 4 місяці тому

    how orgs make money? simple chinese tournament bets and throw lol dont us

    • @ESCDOTA
      @ESCDOTA  4 місяці тому

      what do you mean?

    • @roncaliianjosua5961
      @roncaliianjosua5961 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ESCDOTA he's implying they do 322, which is possible but hard to prove. You can observe these from low tier teams from china and sea. However, I don't think it's true for the bigger orgs though. They have a lot more to lose than how much they can earn from throwing games. It's just that sea is really bad right now, everyone seems to only play for the salary as they imply in the video.

  • @rhaikyledanlog1635
    @rhaikyledanlog1635 4 місяці тому

    abed must get out on this clown region

    • @bullymaguire6773
      @bullymaguire6773 4 місяці тому

      Sorry to break it up to you but Abed is one of the clowns. One of the highest paid Filipino players with zero achievements.

    • @JMVsln
      @JMVsln 4 місяці тому

      ​@@bullymaguire6773 I agree abed is one of the clown over there. Looks like playing pub evey game.

  • @wntsmcmgtsm805
    @wntsmcmgtsm805 4 місяці тому

    this is just casters asking for a raise too 😂😂😂

  • @rodantegutierrez4027
    @rodantegutierrez4027 4 місяці тому

    How about lebron james securing bags than championship? This idea makes good player poor. Ofcourse you cant afford that without sponsorship like Lakers without their sponsorship also. This two are idiots

    • @KingJhayJ
      @KingJhayJ 4 місяці тому

      james popularity hits huge merchandise, sponsors, endorsements and ticket sales. with or without championship. its business.

    • @karloscenido2008
      @karloscenido2008 4 місяці тому

      NBA Market VS. DOTA 2 Market

    • @bongpagong
      @bongpagong 4 місяці тому

      Comparing NBA to Dota is a dumb comparison. Overall popularity and viewership, they are not the same.

    • @rainierterucha8907
      @rainierterucha8907 4 місяці тому

      Lebron James brins more money than what he is being paid. Jersey, tickets, charity and endorsement. On the other hand this players haven't even done anything. Abed is understandable cause of he built his name and it's an instant sponsorship deal for the team.