*FAQ -* UPDATED 03/02/2019 *Contact Adhesive/Cement* - Chances are your glue and XPS Foam are going to be different to mine so the compatibility may vary. The solvents in the contact cement could possibly melt your foam, it melted the surface of mine but only a tiny bit. Be sure to apply in very thin coats and test the adhesive on some scrap pieces first. If you're still having problems you could try a water based contact adhesive (the drying times are much longer). Or simply use low temp hot glue (not as temperature resistant or tough and you might need to cover up your joins if you can't get them flush and be sure to get rid of your glue strings). UPDATE - Water based Contact Adhesive sucks, try a construction adhesive suitable for foam like Liquid Nails Fast Grab (the kind that comes in tubes for a chalking gun) *Expanded PVC / EPVC / Foam PVC* - I use 3mm (0.118 inches). This stuff might be harder to get in the states than I first thought. You can order it from Lowes in the US if they don't have it on the shelf. *Spider* - Still unidentified, haven't worked up the courage to look it up in the spider directory, too many spiders.
@@Miscast I bet! I just finished watching all of your terrain videos and I really love your channel aesthetic - super cohesive & well presented, and the content makes me desperately want to build stuff. Also it's late, you ought to be asleep mate.
You have changed my scenery making life! that PVC board is amazing. After watching this video I went to the local big warehouse and found some - not only is it as easy to cut as you say, but I can now make some decent fields with fences that I couldn't make before using MDF or other items.
Awesome work.. really feeling the aesthetics on this.. and so true about taking notes... it can be as simple as a piece of paper but save you tons of head space down the road!
@@Miscast Maybe some paint tutorial a la Bob Ross, blog updates on terrain proyects ot simply you answering some questions from twitter or other social media. Anything that doesn´t require heavy editing or any at all.
I must mention, some hobby stores that sell model trains have molds for hills and such along with trees and other small terrain. Great if you need some small bits like little bushes or trees.
modge podge coat. lets you do whatever you want to foam. depending on the modge podge, it also acts as a hardening agent for the foam to keep it relatively protected.
It's very expensive here in Aus unfortunately. I also don't really like the finish it has so I use a spray matte varnish on projects I need to protect now.
You should switch to an airbrush for the spray applications of paint. Easier to control, cheaper paint by volume, and you can hit things lightly to have your underpainting show through. After getting one I have never gone back to spray cans for any reason. Yes they take some getting used to, and yes they are initially expensive, but the trade off in control and quality of work is invaluable. Keep up the great work, love your vids!
Yes, totally agree, I used to have one but have not replaced it. Unfortunately, the initial expense is too much at this stage, hopefully in the future :)
Try Mod Podge for coating your pieces, you can then spray them with can primer. PVA and water doesn’t seal well enough ... can’t take the credit though ... I learned this from Black Magic Craft. Just paying it forward, love the videos!
Haha. When you said "using this for our future projects" I thought future, as in futuristic style, being Warhammer 40k, not the near future in the real world. Cool project. Thanks for sharing.
Haha, well I guess it could be both! My idea with this series to is be able to expand on the table each episode, that way I can include techniques from all different skill levels as time goes on. So if there is something you wanna see, let me know!
Great video, I would undercoat with mod podge and black paint. Then seal it afterward in your sealant of choice to give it a tougher coating. Trying to plan a build for an underground caverns and tunnels, for a post apocalyptic setting. Using the Tagoskan Wasteland map by Heroic Maps, for my gaming mat. I had it printed on a PVC 50"x50" banner for £17 including shipping. And this video has given me some ideas, need to build some junk buildings, bridges and scatter pieces as well.
Thanks mate! Mod Podge is a bit expensive here, unfortunately, especially a table worth. I really wanted to keep the grain of the foam if possible. Honestly, after constant club use since making the video its held up well, there's light damage that mod podge may have protected but nothing 5 minutes and some dabs of orange paint can't fix. Great to hear this has given you some ideas!
I recommend Glidden Gripper paint primer for flat surfaces to glue styrofoam together. Their are videos of its effectiveness online. The product is cheap, and easy to apply. The down side would be you have to weigh down the styrofoam you are using, and it's a paint that has to be brushed on.
Hey man, thank you so much for this video, really well documented and presented. I have checked out some of your other terrain builds and your awesome. legend man keep on making more terrain vids!!
Those thin long blades aren't designed to be used fully extended... They are designed to be used in the same way you would use a regular stanley knife. When the end goes blunt you extend the blade 1 segment and snap off the blunt bit. You then have a sharp blade again.
Nice job ...love the colors, If you could show a slower more in-depth look at how you chop them up it would be helpful to us newer guys. Thanks and keep on keeping on!
You can use PVA to stick them together. You just need to apply it in small patches so it has gaps to breathe. If it's not drying you probably smothered the whole surface.
Thanks for the tip :) I didn't consider gluing in small patches, my instinct is to cover the whole surface for maximum adhesion, will try that now and update the FAQ if it works.
black magic craft uses mod podge to seal his foam, which seems to protect it when you use spray primers awesome builds by the way! i've been binge watching your chanel
Well my understudy of table top terrain crafting starts today. And I'm loving your teachings brother! Happy New Year 2020! I look forward to learning all I can from you and other amazing talented Craft Artist. ^_^ Aloha!
Legendary. Fantastic tutorial. Made a ton of rocky terrain but this really added a few things I"m gonna add next time I make some terrain. What kinda paint did you use? I'll check the rest of the videos to see if you mentioned it elsewhere
Thanks for the kind words :) I use whatever paint I like the colours of, I use all sorts of brands across all my videos, they all perform about the same in most circumstances. Cheap dollar store paints can take a few more coats, and the expensive artist brands tend mix better. In this video is mostly Jo-Sonja brand, which is a bit pricey but it's avalible locally which is mostly why I buy it. Currently I've been experimenting with house paint for my base coats in a similar colour as my spray in the video and that works well too.
Trent, is there a possibility that you could make a video on how to plan out a while 6x4ft board thats got inlaid trenches etc? I've always wanted to make a board that is stalingrad esque but I can't get my head around planning these sort of things. I've made small pieces of terrain in the past, but I'm worried that it would just look terrible.
Hey! I'm trying to make this a reality for my local war gaming club depending on if I can get funding to do it. Until then I believe Mel @TheTerrainTutor might be able to help you out, he's got a series going about making trenches that looked pretty darn great!
In the US the aggravation is that hardware stores only sell corrugated PVC for sign material. In order to get closed cell PVA sheets for hobby use we have to special order them from limited availability retailers online, or amazon. Its expensive. I really wish the US big box stores would carry it, I don't know why they only carry the corrugated crap. I only have a few small sheets and those were costly to order.
Hmmm odd. Generally it's us Australians that have trouble finding the right materials. Before I made the video, I checked Lowe's to see if they stocked it, and it said they did. I have no idea, I just figured Lowe's would be the equivalent to our Australian chain hardware stores. One thing I'd try out is asking your local hardware store if you can order it in. That being said the corrugated stuff works pretty okay too, you might need to go thicker like 5mm-ish, and you need to work out how to plug the holes (I use builders filler).
Well to be more precise, they don't stock it in the stores. It is by special order. 6mm in a 2ft x4ft (huzzah, mixing measurements).. is 64 bucks. Not too bad for a sheet that size. The corrugated stuff is stocked in the store just looks awful as bases but it is certainly strong enough to make a non-warpy base. The issue isn't the holes in the sides but the rippled surface, you'd need to use filler and sand smooth. More work, more steps. Corrugated is pretty cheap though.
hey trent thanks for all u do ! i was wondering if u could share the recipe for that desert color scheme in written steps im confused by the numbers going down the vertical column in the chart you made for them are they supposed to be mix ratios?
Awesome!! I am binge watching all your videos!! Super impressed!! Please do more regular videos.. also just to know what is the thickness of the foam board that you are using in this video?
What paints did you use to apply the wash and the spray? Can I use basically anything? Can you use the same paints for minis? Great video, I subscribed.
This looks great, thanks for the tutorial. What would you have done differently if you were to go back and use something instead of the brush and spray white coats?
Thankyou! I would have hand painted it black and then painted it as I did for the rest of the video. I also would have spray painted from a further distance from the piece, I believe it was the solvent in the aerosol that melted it, not the paint. I think for a big table of terrain like this one using a airbrush would be very handy.
No, 2 different things :) Expanded pvc or epvc is closer to plastic than it is foam. It's pretty tough while foamboard is soft. I use foamboard it in lots of my other projects on this channel you're welcome to check out!
mixing spray and brush paint, needs planning. Solvent in spraycans can make stuff boil, especially cheap stuff. Try to stay within brand if doing different layers. Never use cheap spray primer, go industrial or have stuff made.
When making this type of terrain, I prefer just using my Kershaw folding knife to make craggy edges. Strong, sharp blade, and I don't have to worry about bits of sharp metal exploding everywhere.
*FAQ -* UPDATED 03/02/2019
*Contact Adhesive/Cement* - Chances are your glue and XPS Foam are going to be different to mine so the compatibility may vary. The solvents in the contact cement could possibly melt your foam, it melted the surface of mine but only a tiny bit. Be sure to apply in very thin coats and test the adhesive on some scrap pieces first. If you're still having problems you could try a water based contact adhesive (the drying times are much longer). Or simply use low temp hot glue (not as temperature resistant or tough and you might need to cover up your joins if you can't get them flush and be sure to get rid of your glue strings). UPDATE - Water based Contact Adhesive sucks, try a construction adhesive suitable for foam like Liquid Nails Fast Grab (the kind that comes in tubes for a chalking gun)
*Expanded PVC / EPVC / Foam PVC* - I use 3mm (0.118 inches). This stuff might be harder to get in the states than I first thought. You can order it from Lowes in the US if they don't have it on the shelf.
*Spider* - Still unidentified, haven't worked up the courage to look it up in the spider directory, too many spiders.
do you have a link that could be found
Yeah been having a harder time then you guys across the pond seem to. Oh well thats life.
Spider classified.
Classification: Nope
Solution: Exterminatus
You should pin this comment. Great vid!
Always good to hit a scrap piece of foam with a glue or paint you're not sure of.
that moment when you stopped, looked at the cockroach, then continued, was an entire thesis of a mood
lol, thanks for reminding me of this moment, I laughed at it for ages in the edit.
@@Miscast I bet! I just finished watching all of your terrain videos and I really love your channel aesthetic - super cohesive & well presented, and the content makes me desperately want to build stuff. Also it's late, you ought to be asleep mate.
@@Opaqu.e Thanks mate! Thats very kind. I'm currently working on my next video, I can always sleep later ;)
Noticed other terrain makers in the comments, good to see everyone picks up stuff from others.
Why didn't you just cover the entire surface of every terrain piece in your signature miscast terrain sand?
why dont you PAINT MORE MINIES ! lol i like your videos to thanks for sharing man
@@savagex466-qt1io Ha!
You're the Bob Ross of miniature wargaming hobbies
You have changed my scenery making life! that PVC board is amazing. After watching this video I went to the local big warehouse and found some - not only is it as easy to cut as you say, but I can now make some decent fields with fences that I couldn't make before using MDF or other items.
This is just solid. I love seeing some base material for terrain that can be expanded on to your skill level. Love seeing you back!!!
Thanks a lot! Glad to hear, the future of this series is very exciting.
Awesome work.. really feeling the aesthetics on this.. and so true about taking notes... it can be as simple as a piece of paper but save you tons of head space down the road!
You have such a relaxing voice, i can watch your videos for hours. Have you considred doing something longer? I would totally watch it while i pant.
haha thanks! If you have any ideas on long form content you'd like to see let me know :)
@@Miscast Maybe some paint tutorial a la Bob Ross, blog updates on terrain proyects ot simply you answering some questions from twitter or other social media. Anything that doesn´t require heavy editing or any at all.
@@STRATOABLE Sounds fun, I'd love to do a Q&A type thing eventually!
A great argument for vented foam and water-soluble adhesives and skewers!
Such a fantastic video. I like the bright colors you used for like a red desert look
Those textures are awesome! Time to get practicing.
I did a Miscast Terrain Marathon today and I was wondering when the next video would come out.
2:34 Looks like some kind of pseudoscorpion, perhaps of the family neobisiidae, but the footage is not clear for proper identification. Nice video.
looked like a flower/crab spider to me like these: Misumessus oblongus or Misumessus lappi
I’ve no idea what the hell they are but it’s nice to see nerds of other topics
I must mention, some hobby stores that sell model trains have molds for hills and such along with trees and other small terrain. Great if you need some small bits like little bushes or trees.
I wish we could get a revisit from this someday. With all the experience you earned over the last few years. 😃
The terrain looks very good. The presentation was well done as well.
modge podge coat. lets you do whatever you want to foam. depending on the modge podge, it also acts as a hardening agent for the foam to keep it relatively protected.
It's very expensive here in Aus unfortunately. I also don't really like the finish it has so I use a spray matte varnish on projects I need to protect now.
Very Beautiful Terrain
You should switch to an airbrush for the spray applications of paint. Easier to control, cheaper paint by volume, and you can hit things lightly to have your underpainting show through. After getting one I have never gone back to spray cans for any reason. Yes they take some getting used to, and yes they are initially expensive, but the trade off in control and quality of work is invaluable. Keep up the great work, love your vids!
Yes, totally agree, I used to have one but have not replaced it. Unfortunately, the initial expense is too much at this stage, hopefully in the future :)
Mate, this us awesome, loving the Mars / Klandathu look of the senery.
Try Mod Podge for coating your pieces, you can then spray them with can primer. PVA and water doesn’t seal well enough ... can’t take the credit though ... I learned this from Black Magic Craft. Just paying it forward, love the videos!
Rockin
hahahah, I was looking for a comment like this, of course it'd be you Wyloch!
Have you ever tried BMC's adding black acrylic paint to mod podge primes it. Creates a tough shell and protects the foam from melting.
Keep up the great videos man. One of my favorite channels. Solid tutorials.
Thanks a bunch, means a lot!
Super well shot and great information. Will be checking our more of your content. Keep it up!!!
The partially melted look on some pieces adds to the terrain, almost like it's heavily corroded lava flows or wind erosion of soft rock.
Haha. When you said "using this for our future projects" I thought future, as in futuristic style, being Warhammer 40k, not the near future in the real world. Cool project. Thanks for sharing.
Haha, well I guess it could be both! My idea with this series to is be able to expand on the table each episode, that way I can include techniques from all different skill levels as time goes on. So if there is something you wanna see, let me know!
Miscast Terrain yeah, love the channel. I like modular terrain too. Keep it on the generic side, and you can reuse.
Applause from Trent Bridge town! Best XPS-to-rock carving I've seen - this is SFX quality pretend cragging.
Great video, I would undercoat with mod podge and black paint. Then seal it afterward in your sealant of choice to give it a tougher coating.
Trying to plan a build for an underground caverns and tunnels, for a post apocalyptic setting. Using the Tagoskan Wasteland map by Heroic Maps, for my gaming mat. I had it printed on a PVC 50"x50" banner for £17 including shipping. And this video has given me some ideas, need to build some junk buildings, bridges and scatter pieces as well.
Thanks mate! Mod Podge is a bit expensive here, unfortunately, especially a table worth. I really wanted to keep the grain of the foam if possible. Honestly, after constant club use since making the video its held up well, there's light damage that mod podge may have protected but nothing 5 minutes and some dabs of orange paint can't fix.
Great to hear this has given you some ideas!
I recommend Glidden Gripper paint primer for flat surfaces to glue styrofoam together. Their are videos of its effectiveness online. The product is cheap, and easy to apply. The down side would be you have to weigh down the styrofoam you are using, and it's a paint that has to be brushed on.
They look awesome - nice simple approach. Great tip on the pvc sheet - will have a look fir that. Warping = 😡😡😡 Thanks another great vid!
OH MY GOD THAT PSUEDOSCORPION WAS ADORABLE
Hey man, thank you so much for this video, really well documented and presented. I have checked out some of your other terrain builds and your awesome. legend man keep on making more terrain vids!!
Good stuff. I made my terrain in a very similar way. But I used mdf for the bases.
Tyranid infestation detected... Solution: EXTERMINATUS ... ... ... execute...
That would look great on an Epic 40k battlefield.
Man, i love your videos. You and Black Magic Craft are the best
Those thin long blades aren't designed to be used fully extended... They are designed to be used in the same way you would use a regular stanley knife. When the end goes blunt you extend the blade 1 segment and snap off the blunt bit. You then have a sharp blade again.
1:16, this is how Carl lost his eye in the comics.
Your lighting and shots look great. Thanks for the video.
Cheers! My pleasure :)
+1 for the contact cement. I also use that for a lot of things, especially in areas where air drying glue won't be getting any air
Creative, effective and beautiful job...have to try it!
Thanks! Hope you do :D
Nice job ...love the colors, If you could show a slower more in-depth look at how you chop them up it would be helpful to us newer guys. Thanks and keep on keeping on!
Thanks Shawn! Not really sure how much more in depth I can go to be honest, if you give it a go I think you'll pick it up very quick!
You can use PVA to stick them together. You just need to apply it in small patches so it has gaps to breathe. If it's not drying you probably smothered the whole surface.
Thanks for the tip :) I didn't consider gluing in small patches, my instinct is to cover the whole surface for maximum adhesion, will try that now and update the FAQ if it works.
Great video! Would be awesome to see you tackle some sci-fi buildings or structures in the future.
Not gonna lie the sound of the lil blade ricocheting sounded badass 1:17
black magic craft uses mod podge to seal his foam, which seems to protect it when you use spray primers
awesome builds by the way! i've been binge watching your chanel
Fantastic video. Great editing and closeup shots. I also appreciated u including the mistakes and your tips as u went along. I subscribed :)
First time on your channel. The production value of your videos is awesome! Also very informative.
Thanks!
Great result.
this will be perfect for my ad mech
Awesome terrain. Looks like mars theme terrain. Just what I need for my mechanicus kill team
Well my understudy of table top terrain crafting starts today. And I'm loving your teachings brother! Happy New Year 2020! I look forward to learning all I can from you and other amazing talented Craft Artist. ^_^ Aloha!
Yas queen. They look awesome.
XD Thanks!
Hey! New subscriber here, I have no idea why I'd not found your channel earlier!! Excellent production, and excellent content. :oD
I love the colors, really a great video of how to make some cool Mars desert hill's.
Many thanks for showing and please keep up the good work ;-))
Feeling inspired to finish my table after exams.
Cheers mate.
Awesome! Good luck with the exams and table!
I always love these videos. Great work, as always!
Amazing work
Cheers!!
Wow! As you put it, really cool. Really cool. A joy to watch. Subscribed and added this video to a how to playlist
Thanks a bunch! :D
@@Miscast and the video quality is amazing to. I'm just using my smart phone and it shows
Brilliant video
Legendary. Fantastic tutorial. Made a ton of rocky terrain but this really added a few things I"m gonna add next time I make some terrain. What kinda paint did you use? I'll check the rest of the videos to see if you mentioned it elsewhere
Thanks for the kind words :) I use whatever paint I like the colours of, I use all sorts of brands across all my videos, they all perform about the same in most circumstances. Cheap dollar store paints can take a few more coats, and the expensive artist brands tend mix better. In this video is mostly Jo-Sonja brand, which is a bit pricey but it's avalible locally which is mostly why I buy it. Currently I've been experimenting with house paint for my base coats in a similar colour as my spray in the video and that works well too.
@@Miscast Sweet thanks man!
Trent, is there a possibility that you could make a video on how to plan out a while 6x4ft board thats got inlaid trenches etc? I've always wanted to make a board that is stalingrad esque but I can't get my head around planning these sort of things. I've made small pieces of terrain in the past, but I'm worried that it would just look terrible.
Hey! I'm trying to make this a reality for my local war gaming club depending on if I can get funding to do it. Until then I believe Mel @TheTerrainTutor might be able to help you out, he's got a series going about making trenches that looked pretty darn great!
Awesome video as always brother!
In the US the aggravation is that hardware stores only sell corrugated PVC for sign material. In order to get closed cell PVA sheets for hobby use we have to special order them from limited availability retailers online, or amazon. Its expensive. I really wish the US big box stores would carry it, I don't know why they only carry the corrugated crap. I only have a few small sheets and those were costly to order.
Hmmm odd. Generally it's us Australians that have trouble finding the right materials. Before I made the video, I checked Lowe's to see if they stocked it, and it said they did. I have no idea, I just figured Lowe's would be the equivalent to our Australian chain hardware stores. One thing I'd try out is asking your local hardware store if you can order it in.
That being said the corrugated stuff works pretty okay too, you might need to go thicker like 5mm-ish, and you need to work out how to plug the holes (I use builders filler).
Well to be more precise, they don't stock it in the stores. It is by special order. 6mm in a 2ft x4ft (huzzah, mixing measurements).. is 64 bucks. Not too bad for a sheet that size. The corrugated stuff is stocked in the store just looks awful as bases but it is certainly strong enough to make a non-warpy base. The issue isn't the holes in the sides but the rippled surface, you'd need to use filler and sand smooth. More work, more steps. Corrugated is pretty cheap though.
@@meatybtz Gotcha, I'm using 3mm (0.118inch) EPVC for my projects and I believe Lowes sells that too :)
Those rocks rock!
Great video as usual! Keep up the great work mate!
Your work is pretty amazing.
hey trent thanks for all u do ! i was wondering if u could share the recipe for that desert color scheme in written steps im confused by the numbers going down the vertical column in the chart you made for them are they supposed to be mix ratios?
Miscast, u have the tools like Dexter Morgan and ur doing 40k Terrain Art!
Just found your channel…..great stuff. Do you do any 1/35 scale modelling?
I’m going to make these but paint them like stone and apply flocking so they’re like small mountains or big hills. who knows.
Awesome!! I am binge watching all your videos!! Super impressed!! Please do more regular videos.. also just to know what is the thickness of the foam board that you are using in this video?
Awesome video mate
Ps, what thickness epvc did you use?
@@hellodave93 3mm! :)
I love all the spider kin
2:27 Excuse me, I love Hotglue!!!
Awesome! I did a full set of hills that have the same, mars colors, as yours. Love them to this day ^^D
Oh cool! I love the colour. My biggest inspiration was the movie The Martian
Back then I had a full 4/4 table. Its gone now, but I have a plan to rebuild it ua-cam.com/video/eycqnz1ccM8/v-deo.html&list=PL265AB7C3B0C9609E
What paints did you use to apply the wash and the spray? Can I use basically anything?
Can you use the same paints for minis?
Great video, I subscribed.
Very nice, have subscribed, all the best, Garry
Another class video. What thickness is the epvc you are using there? Also... that apron is rather fetching.
3mm :) and thanks heh!
look really nice for some martian terrain.
Great video! Your content has helped me a ton with creating terrian
What is the name of this board... Thank you for being creative
KEEP DOING THIS PLS
Nice job man 🙏
Great looking rocks, they look pretty martian :)
These videos are so amazing! There is nothing like soothing music and building terrain :)
You, Luke APS and Miniac are the big three of the miniature wargaming universe
Aw man, thank you, that's awesome. I love both Luke and Scott's work a whole lot and their contribution to the hobby is the best around in my opinion.
This looks great, thanks for the tutorial. What would you have done differently if you were to go back and use something instead of the brush and spray white coats?
Thankyou! I would have hand painted it black and then painted it as I did for the rest of the video. I also would have spray painted from a further distance from the piece, I
believe it was the solvent in the aerosol that melted it, not the paint. I think for a big table of terrain like this one using a airbrush would be very handy.
Awesome vid mate
Thanks :)
You're a legend
great video... quick question....expanded pvc, is that foamboard here in the U.S. ? foam in the middle with paper on both sides?
No, 2 different things :) Expanded pvc or epvc is closer to plastic than it is foam. It's pretty tough while foamboard is soft. I use foamboard it in lots of my other projects on this channel you're welcome to check out!
mixing spray and brush paint, needs planning. Solvent in spraycans can make stuff boil, especially cheap stuff. Try to stay within brand if doing different layers. Never use cheap spray primer, go industrial or have stuff made.
I wouldn't stress to much honestly
Great as always!
Greetings from Germany
Love your vids man keep it up
I have seen the thumbnail and thought he is baking chocolate cake XD
Nice work. I'm putting a Martian board together. What colour palette did you use. Looks good. Nice tutorial.
Really great videos !
When making this type of terrain, I prefer just using my Kershaw folding knife to make craggy edges. Strong, sharp blade, and I don't have to worry about bits of sharp metal exploding everywhere.
I think a knife like that would be perfect! Unfortunately, I just don't know how to sharpen a knife