Great video. A friend of mine is looking at making a theft deck and I think some of these cloning effects will help the deck out too. I did want to mention I actually use clone legion in a grixis demon tribal deck to copy my own stuff. The few times I've played it I've gotten 4 or 5 demons. Kind of a unique case I suppose but totally worth keeping in mind for anyone with a deck full of large creatures with access to blue.
Overall good video, but why not show the autowin with Biovisionary and Rite of Replication? I also expected at least an honorable mention for cards such as Doubling Season. (10 copies of a creature for 9 mana anyone?)
Sakashima is actually REALLY GOOD in decks based around your commander, because you can copy a legend and keep both due to the copy having different name
What about quicksilver gargantuan? Sure the mana cost is a bit high but not only does it enter as a clone it enters as a 7/7 clone no matter what which could make some really good but weak creatures way better or gives you a slightly weaker version of something like an eldrazi titan. Sure in that case you'd rather use a cheaper clone that enters as a copy but still.
Rite of Replication... copying Clever Impersonator, copying whatever you want, 6 diferent permanents for the cost of 1 permanent and 1 sorcery... THAT's value, then if you have the way to keep cloning in the next turn well... Clone Legion yourselft and bring another 6 Clevers... i know that's a lot of mana but damn, we surely have the way to do that! :3 oh wait... and please we are blue, bring back those spells from the graveyard it's not a even a problem! :3
Mmm. I realize this is all opinion based but you definatly missed a lot of Gems. And you also underestimate Sakashima. Since he can become a second copy of an important legendary, such as Sheoldred, Sidisi, Jeleva, Mairsil and so on, the powerful options that are opened up to you is pretty extreme for decks that care about their commanders ability. But. I have quite a few that fit into this catagory of yours that are far far better than most on your list in my opinion. So here are the gems you missed. 1. Thespian's Stage//Vesuva: Lands are extremely important and extremely powerful. These can copy the best land. copy the green deck's Gaea's cradle? Copy your Cabal coffers? Copy valakut? What about the flip enchantments with powerful abilities? Extremely powerful cards. I'd say Thespian stage is a bit more powerful than Vesuva since its usable on turn one and it can keep copying other lands. But both are amazing since they are also Colorless which gives them access to all decks! 2. Progenitor Mimic: Would be higher than everything on your list for me personally except for your top 4. This one just keeps giving you value as you begin to create more copies of the creature as time passes. This card is a beating especially when copying a titan. But is just filth with Acidic slime or Ravenous Chupacabra. 3. Body Double: This is a rise from the grave in blue. Its hard to argue with this since you can often get cards more easily in the bin than in play. And if you are looking to keep the board clear in control, killing everything and following that up with Double is a great way to fight on an empty board. Many clones fall flat on an empty board but this one doesn't. Similar to Mimeoplasm its worth metioning. Nether it nore Mimeo would make my top 10 though. But Double made it into my Sidisi deck. I have both of them, but Mimeo couldn't make the cut. 4. Vizier of Many Faces: The Vizier is reusable as a clone and can be used if it gets countered or milled in some way. Clones that have multiple lives are always valuable and I'm not sure how I'd rank this one just yet as I haven't been able to play with it, but I've seen it in action. It's embalm ability is far far better than you think. 5. Phantasmal Image: This one is just bonkers. You might not think so but it just goes nuts with Sun Titan and its low cost is highly advantages when wanting to keep mana open. I've used similar cards before and this, and its draw back is pretty inconsequential as I've had it just sit on the board for several turns as it does work just as well as a normal clone. 6. Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker: You can't talk about copy cards without talking about the king himself. Kiki-Jiki is just a value engine. He can only copy your creatures, but so what? he has so many game breaking combos with him and he does clone things that you can't not consider him for any creature deck with red. I've never personally owned one. But I've lost to it dozens of times. 7. Cackling Counterpart: You don't need to clone your opponents stuff. If you can copy your stuff at instant speed, that's usually enough. But copying your stuff twice? Well, awesome. Another powerful hitter this card has done more work than Vizier and if I had to choose one over the other, I'd choose the counterpart since you can use it to play with used up flash creatures you have that you've already blown their abilities on. Copy your Mystic snake, draining whelk, what ever. You can also respond to a removal spell. So they swords your Avacyn and you Counterpart it, cloning her and choose to keep the copy sending her to the bin to be recovered later. I've seen it happen, and this is absolutely an amazing card. 8. Flameshadow Conjuring: This one surprised me with how good it works. Get extra ETB triggers for a kicker of one? sounds great! And a hasty body? Who needs the clone to last forever? I sure don't I just need the value engine! 9. Saheeli Rai: Similar to the Flameshadow, Saheelie would count in this since it can copy cards. It is also part of an infinite combo. Wooo! But not as great as some of the others I've mentioned, but still worth mentioning. Again, only copying your own stuff isn't as big a drawback as you might think. Usually my stuff is the stuff I want to copy. 10. Inalla, Archmage Ritualist: And here it is. The last of the copy cards I feel should be mentioned. She is the most limited from all that I've mentioned but she is also one of the most busted designed commanders of the last set. So what if she can only clone Wizards? Look what they can do! and she's only going to get even better since she never has to be cast from the command zone. But hey, if you don't think so why not give these cards a spin and see for yourself? Maybe your opinion might change. There are defiantly a metric tone of copy/clone cards that are just outstanding. But I also think I view deck building through a very different lens than you do. Your list seems to be "What's the best way to copy my opponent's stuff" where as I'm looking at clones as a means to add synergy and combos with my own deck. At least that's what I'm feeling from you list.
Yo I actually have a question about progenitor mimic, so I want to make a Koma deck, if I cast mimic with Koma on the board mimic becomes Koma and makes another token of Koma? So essentially I’ll have 3 by end turn?
Rite of Replication making 5 copies of Terrastadon, that's nothing. I've been using Rite of Replication as part of a two card combo in my Kruphix, God of Horizons EDH combo/control deck for a long time. (Biovisionary + Rite of Replication kicked = I win at the end of my turn for a total cost of 6UUUG. The combo is janky as hell, but other than my Lab Man combos it is definitely the combo I've had the most success with.)
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Clone legion can also allow you to choose yourself as a player making your board insane
Great video. A friend of mine is looking at making a theft deck and I think some of these cloning effects will help the deck out too. I did want to mention I actually use clone legion in a grixis demon tribal deck to copy my own stuff. The few times I've played it I've gotten 4 or 5 demons. Kind of a unique case I suppose but totally worth keeping in mind for anyone with a deck full of large creatures with access to blue.
Mirage Mirror is finding it's way into many of my decks. So glad I was impressed with it and bought dozens when they were cheap :D
One of if not my favorite mechanics in mtg
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Spark Double, Helm of the Host, Glasspool mimic, mimic vat, Feldon of the third path & Kiki Jiki are also great options.
I am a big fan of Dimir Doppelganger since it allows to act as some sort of graveyard-hate and is pretty cheap, even if it does not enter as copy :)
hm i thought sakashima would make the list, since it lets you copy your commander, since it keeps its name when it copys something
Cheo Pitchford that's interesting
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Overall good video, but why not show the autowin with Biovisionary and Rite of Replication? I also expected at least an honorable mention for cards such as Doubling Season. (10 copies of a creature for 9 mana anyone?)
Rest In Peace progenitor mimic
Sakashima is actually REALLY GOOD in decks based around your commander, because you can copy a legend and keep both due to the copy having different name
I thought Mimic Vat would be on there.
how did you miss Progenitor Mimic, it's bonker (also looks stunning in foil), other than that good list
Precursor golem + rite of replication
Faerie Artisans is still great if you use it on your commander, as that doesn't get exiled, it just goes to the command zone.
Artisans is only for opponent's creatures tho
I would have had Altered Ego, Identity Thief and Progenitor Mimic in this list
What about quicksilver gargantuan? Sure the mana cost is a bit high but not only does it enter as a clone it enters as a 7/7 clone no matter what which could make some really good but weak creatures way better or gives you a slightly weaker version of something like an eldrazi titan. Sure in that case you'd rather use a cheaper clone that enters as a copy but still.
Spark double as well
Not good enough for top 10, but Faerie Artisans is a fun effect, maybe for a chaos deck.
Rite of Replication... copying Clever Impersonator, copying whatever you want, 6 diferent permanents for the cost of 1 permanent and 1 sorcery... THAT's value, then if you have the way to keep cloning in the next turn well... Clone Legion yourselft and bring another 6 Clevers... i know that's a lot of mana but damn, we surely have the way to do that! :3 oh wait... and please we are blue, bring back those spells from the graveyard it's not a even a problem! :3
It only copies a creature. Clever impersonator is whatever it copied therefore cannot be cloned as itself
Mmm. I realize this is all opinion based but you definatly missed a lot of Gems. And you also underestimate Sakashima. Since he can become a second copy of an important legendary, such as Sheoldred, Sidisi, Jeleva, Mairsil and so on, the powerful options that are opened up to you is pretty extreme for decks that care about their commanders ability. But. I have quite a few that fit into this catagory of yours that are far far better than most on your list in my opinion. So here are the gems you missed.
1. Thespian's Stage//Vesuva: Lands are extremely important and extremely powerful. These can copy the best land. copy the green deck's Gaea's cradle? Copy your Cabal coffers? Copy valakut? What about the flip enchantments with powerful abilities? Extremely powerful cards. I'd say Thespian stage is a bit more powerful than Vesuva since its usable on turn one and it can keep copying other lands. But both are amazing since they are also Colorless which gives them access to all decks!
2. Progenitor Mimic: Would be higher than everything on your list for me personally except for your top 4. This one just keeps giving you value as you begin to create more copies of the creature as time passes. This card is a beating especially when copying a titan. But is just filth with Acidic slime or Ravenous Chupacabra.
3. Body Double: This is a rise from the grave in blue. Its hard to argue with this since you can often get cards more easily in the bin than in play. And if you are looking to keep the board clear in control, killing everything and following that up with Double is a great way to fight on an empty board. Many clones fall flat on an empty board but this one doesn't. Similar to Mimeoplasm its worth metioning. Nether it nore Mimeo would make my top 10 though. But Double made it into my Sidisi deck. I have both of them, but Mimeo couldn't make the cut.
4. Vizier of Many Faces: The Vizier is reusable as a clone and can be used if it gets countered or milled in some way. Clones that have multiple lives are always valuable and I'm not sure how I'd rank this one just yet as I haven't been able to play with it, but I've seen it in action. It's embalm ability is far far better than you think.
5. Phantasmal Image: This one is just bonkers. You might not think so but it just goes nuts with Sun Titan and its low cost is highly advantages when wanting to keep mana open. I've used similar cards before and this, and its draw back is pretty inconsequential as I've had it just sit on the board for several turns as it does work just as well as a normal clone.
6. Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker: You can't talk about copy cards without talking about the king himself. Kiki-Jiki is just a value engine. He can only copy your creatures, but so what? he has so many game breaking combos with him and he does clone things that you can't not consider him for any creature deck with red. I've never personally owned one. But I've lost to it dozens of times.
7. Cackling Counterpart: You don't need to clone your opponents stuff. If you can copy your stuff at instant speed, that's usually enough. But copying your stuff twice? Well, awesome. Another powerful hitter this card has done more work than Vizier and if I had to choose one over the other, I'd choose the counterpart since you can use it to play with used up flash creatures you have that you've already blown their abilities on. Copy your Mystic snake, draining whelk, what ever. You can also respond to a removal spell. So they swords your Avacyn and you Counterpart it, cloning her and choose to keep the copy sending her to the bin to be recovered later. I've seen it happen, and this is absolutely an amazing card.
8. Flameshadow Conjuring: This one surprised me with how good it works. Get extra ETB triggers for a kicker of one? sounds great! And a hasty body? Who needs the clone to last forever? I sure don't I just need the value engine!
9. Saheeli Rai: Similar to the Flameshadow, Saheelie would count in this since it can copy cards. It is also part of an infinite combo. Wooo! But not as great as some of the others I've mentioned, but still worth mentioning. Again, only copying your own stuff isn't as big a drawback as you might think. Usually my stuff is the stuff I want to copy.
10. Inalla, Archmage Ritualist: And here it is. The last of the copy cards I feel should be mentioned. She is the most limited from all that I've mentioned but she is also one of the most busted designed commanders of the last set. So what if she can only clone Wizards? Look what they can do! and she's only going to get even better since she never has to be cast from the command zone.
But hey, if you don't think so why not give these cards a spin and see for yourself? Maybe your opinion might change. There are defiantly a metric tone of copy/clone cards that are just outstanding. But I also think I view deck building through a very different lens than you do. Your list seems to be "What's the best way to copy my opponent's stuff" where as I'm looking at clones as a means to add synergy and combos with my own deck. At least that's what I'm feeling from you list.
Yo I actually have a question about progenitor mimic, so I want to make a Koma deck, if I cast mimic with Koma on the board mimic becomes Koma and makes another token of Koma? So essentially I’ll have 3 by end turn?
Rite of Replication making 5 copies of Terrastadon, that's nothing. I've been using Rite of Replication as part of a two card combo in my Kruphix, God of Horizons EDH combo/control deck for a long time. (Biovisionary + Rite of Replication kicked = I win at the end of my turn for a total cost of 6UUUG. The combo is janky as hell, but other than my Lab Man combos it is definitely the combo I've had the most success with.)
Best thing about clone legion is your opponents don't have to have good creatures. You can target yourself.
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