I have been trying to decide if I should go with the second or third generation controller. The salesperson recommended going with the second generation for the cost savings.
yeah, once the controller is setup and your lawn is properly mapped and the thing runs on autopilot then both boxes will probably largely be no different other than looks. I don't want to say anything more about value yet as I haven't used my new box enough to have a solid opinion on whether it's worth upgrading or not or whether it's worth getting the 2 or 3 on an initial system installation. I will eventually have an opinion on that. But your salesperson is right, box 2 will work just fine if you don't care about the flashy looks, and it should save you hundreds on the equipment purchase
Ohh man, not gonna lie, that stinks. You should reach out to them and ask what your options are, if any. It would make sense to me for the company to offer an upgrade where you return the old model in exchange for a new model plus an upgrade charge of course. This would give them the ability to maybe offer lower cost refurbished boxes as well.
Hey AjaxTx, I just reached out to my contact at Irrigreen and asked them about your situation having just bought the system with the older model controller. I'm told the Irrigreen is working on an upgrade program right now and will be rolling out info on that program by the end of the week. I don't know any details about the upgrade program just yet but it might be worth waiting until that info is published and then making some calls to be first in line.
This happened to me too. Received my system end of September. Just wrapping up the install. Would have totally went with this controller if I had known. Maybe they’ll let us upgrade for cheaper.
I'd be super curious how many extra system sales Irrigreen would get if they took that pricing strategy? Right now they don't have a direct competitor or alternative to compete against so if any other player jumped in the market I think they might be forced to experiment with a lower controller price.
@@TurfMechanic For sure. Once you get above a certain price most price sensitive customers might just use a simple hose and a timer and other alternatives that dont require digging. Irrigreen is kind of in no mans land between easy and simple DIY systems and professionally installed more traditional systems. Most homes, even older homes have some type of in ground irrigation system and with less money than that controller you can get it up to snuff if its not working or not working properly. Unless you inherited a mess of system like I did. I did it myself but it would have cost me $2000 additionally to what I spent on materials. lol
There is no way the controller costs more than 100usd to manufacture ... Fancy way to charge for software and I wouldn't say that is a good price for the level of software in here. Like comparatively is this more complicated than a gaming PC and 3 AAA video games ... Because it costs more. Anyways I hope the system is working well for you just lamenting the unreasonable pricing. Same problem with home security systems, a market built on ripping off older not tech savvy and rich people that prevents innovation.
you are absolutely correct that you are not paying for just the hardware. The software markup is a major part of the price. I too am curious how many more customers they would get at a much lower price point. These guys are running TV spots on major channels during baseball games, etc. I suspect they've done market research. And for what it's worth, installing a conventional system compared to this system does cost more mostly due to labor. It's a compelling product for new irrigation installations.
@@TurfMechanic that is true, I would recommend this over traditional systems for most yard spaces unless it is extension of an existing system vs this. But I also find skilled labor to be expensive at the moment. I generally disagree with price gouging over recuperative pricing. *Sigh* rant time if you read this. But it doesn't leave the door open for competitive pricing. Here is what I actually see happen. The seller is happy to have extremely high markup products and take on as many customers as will pay. Then those that won't have to settle with an alternative such as doing irrigation installation themselves or maybe hand watering a drought tolerant grass while letting nature do the work. So those that have their expensive system do not create demand anymore and aren't part of the accessible market and likewise those that found an alternative are out of the buyer pool. Another compounding effect is an artificial sense of demand just having waitlists and moving through customers pretty slowly. You end up with a self fulfilling loop of low demand market where if you did go cheap, you would quickly exhaust your accessible market and put yourself out of business all the while the premium seller is still fine because every customer they take on which now might be half of what there was is still massive profits, and if they were employing a backlog then nothing even changed, you just cleared that out. You only really find this in markets where the product or service is not stockpile-able or there is a fixed rate of incoming customers/demand. You can't pre-purchase install of irrigation for a home you haven't bought yet or go for a bogo deal to have a spare system for example. I can think of more examples but just a different kind of example glasses are one, you don't really have use for 10 pairs that will go out of script in a few years and wouldn't have general use by someone else for resale anyways and look at their pricing markups.
I have been trying to decide if I should go with the second or third generation controller. The salesperson recommended going with the second generation for the cost savings.
yeah, once the controller is setup and your lawn is properly mapped and the thing runs on autopilot then both boxes will probably largely be no different other than looks. I don't want to say anything more about value yet as I haven't used my new box enough to have a solid opinion on whether it's worth upgrading or not or whether it's worth getting the 2 or 3 on an initial system installation. I will eventually have an opinion on that. But your salesperson is right, box 2 will work just fine if you don't care about the flashy looks, and it should save you hundreds on the equipment purchase
Literally just bought a system 2 weeks ago and this launches... smh. I definitely would've waited
Ohh man, not gonna lie, that stinks. You should reach out to them and ask what your options are, if any. It would make sense to me for the company to offer an upgrade where you return the old model in exchange for a new model plus an upgrade charge of course. This would give them the ability to maybe offer lower cost refurbished boxes as well.
Hey AjaxTx, I just reached out to my contact at Irrigreen and asked them about your situation having just bought the system with the older model controller. I'm told the Irrigreen is working on an upgrade program right now and will be rolling out info on that program by the end of the week. I don't know any details about the upgrade program just yet but it might be worth waiting until that info is published and then making some calls to be first in line.
This happened to me too. Received my system end of September. Just wrapping up the install. Would have totally went with this controller if I had known. Maybe they’ll let us upgrade for cheaper.
@@TurfMechanic awesome, thanks for the response!
That controller should retail for $200 not $1500+. Insane.
I'd be super curious how many extra system sales Irrigreen would get if they took that pricing strategy? Right now they don't have a direct competitor or alternative to compete against so if any other player jumped in the market I think they might be forced to experiment with a lower controller price.
@@TurfMechanic For sure. Once you get above a certain price most price sensitive customers might just use a simple hose and a timer and other alternatives that dont require digging. Irrigreen is kind of in no mans land between easy and simple DIY systems and professionally installed more traditional systems. Most homes, even older homes have some type of in ground irrigation system and with less money than that controller you can get it up to snuff if its not working or not working properly. Unless you inherited a mess of system like I did. I did it myself but it would have cost me $2000 additionally to what I spent on materials. lol
There is no way the controller costs more than 100usd to manufacture ... Fancy way to charge for software and I wouldn't say that is a good price for the level of software in here. Like comparatively is this more complicated than a gaming PC and 3 AAA video games ... Because it costs more. Anyways I hope the system is working well for you just lamenting the unreasonable pricing. Same problem with home security systems, a market built on ripping off older not tech savvy and rich people that prevents innovation.
you are absolutely correct that you are not paying for just the hardware. The software markup is a major part of the price. I too am curious how many more customers they would get at a much lower price point. These guys are running TV spots on major channels during baseball games, etc. I suspect they've done market research. And for what it's worth, installing a conventional system compared to this system does cost more mostly due to labor. It's a compelling product for new irrigation installations.
@@TurfMechanic that is true, I would recommend this over traditional systems for most yard spaces unless it is extension of an existing system vs this. But I also find skilled labor to be expensive at the moment. I generally disagree with price gouging over recuperative pricing. *Sigh* rant time if you read this. But it doesn't leave the door open for competitive pricing. Here is what I actually see happen. The seller is happy to have extremely high markup products and take on as many customers as will pay. Then those that won't have to settle with an alternative such as doing irrigation installation themselves or maybe hand watering a drought tolerant grass while letting nature do the work. So those that have their expensive system do not create demand anymore and aren't part of the accessible market and likewise those that found an alternative are out of the buyer pool. Another compounding effect is an artificial sense of demand just having waitlists and moving through customers pretty slowly. You end up with a self fulfilling loop of low demand market where if you did go cheap, you would quickly exhaust your accessible market and put yourself out of business all the while the premium seller is still fine because every customer they take on which now might be half of what there was is still massive profits, and if they were employing a backlog then nothing even changed, you just cleared that out. You only really find this in markets where the product or service is not stockpile-able or there is a fixed rate of incoming customers/demand. You can't pre-purchase install of irrigation for a home you haven't bought yet or go for a bogo deal to have a spare system for example. I can think of more examples but just a different kind of example glasses are one, you don't really have use for 10 pairs that will go out of script in a few years and wouldn't have general use by someone else for resale anyways and look at their pricing markups.