it has unique feature: you don't need any software or service in the background to simulate mouse movements through gyro, everything is built in dongle after configuration is done on beitong app
Definitely love some of the ideas these controllers bring to the table. I dont understand how chinese companies are doing a better job with their controllers than xbox, playstation and nintendo . In my opinion the best controllers for their consoles are not even theirs
Not only them, but also Hori and other known brands. Hori makes dependable and good quality controllers, but they're cheap and barebones, they lack in features and innovations.
Great video, the Chinese are really innovating in the gamepad scene. I hope more controllers include extra shoulder buttons like this one, from now on. What is the shortest delay that can be programmed in macros between one commend and the next? 1ms is possible?
I'm using this gamepad around one and half year and this is one of the best controllers with really an amazing quality. Quality of materials much better than from Flydigi. But I Apex 4 and Vader 3Pro on of my favorite gamepads. Flydigi 4Pro preordered already, waiting for Beitong Zeus 3. P.S. Mouse option on PC it is a killer feature.
I love top shortcuts, they are so comfortable for action rpg games. Hoping for a revision or new model of this controller with HE sticks, higher polling rate and microswitch trigger stops. A man can dream!
Thank you for this! I've been looking at this controller for at least a year and was hesitant about it ((especially cause I didn't see much about their software) also it seems better the flydigi software lol) How robust is the Keyboard mapping aspect like can you bind media key / f13-24 like in rewasd (cause f23 is my ptt button and I love having one on my controller) Goat Controller/console/hardware reviewer🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
the Apex 4 is not good for fighting games this controller definitely looks good for fighting games press short buttons is hard but this looks much easier on this controller!!! I'm definitely buying this!
I almost bought one of their controllers when I bought the Apex 3. These seem very well build and they have features that sometimes you don't find on other controllers. I just feel that the price and their foreign market view is not the best. For example the joystick tension gimmick of the Apex 4 Beitong had a controller with it with a much more user friendly approach, a rotating ring on the base of the joysticks instead of a screw behind a faceplate. Much more user friendly and quicker way. Even their fighting gamepad is highly recommended by several people. The only downside on this one and the other one with tension setting is that they don't have hall joysticks besides pricing obviously. But I think they are probably out of the market for gamepads. Their new one is just a rebranded Mamba gamepad.
Definitely a nice controller, would like to get one at some point, if for no other reason for the ease of switching stuff out for when something breaks; really wish more controllers had that option..
The weak point of these optical switches is the copper spring. The same switches are in the Razer and Pulsar mice. In my Razer, after a year, the left button clicked twice as weakly as the right one.
I hope more controllers start using optical switches. The new Machenike G5 V2 uses optical switches as well. It is easily the best feature on the Zeus 2.
One of the best unintentional ASMR vids ive seen lol, do you know if the controller can do gyro to joystick either through steam (as pro controller I assume) or native software?
Do you happen to have recommendations for the best adapter to use to connect an Xbox controller and a PS5 controller wirelessly to a Windows PC? I'm essentially looking for the best adapter for both types of controllers that allows me to wirelessly use them on a Windows PC with the least amount of delay/lag.
Hi, recently I saw a gamepad with sticks modules that support hotswap, just like switches on a mechanical keyboard. This one I saw is Machenike G6 pro but there are probably other models with this feature. On aliexpress it was for something like 50 bucks. Would be nice so see how it's works.
Looks like a prototype not a final product Dpad can be overlooked Wireless charging is slower than wired so it's a useless feature that adds to the price Still expensive for a non hall effect sticks controller
@@matrixkitty oh unfortunately on pc there is no way to launch the home button but perhaps you can configure the AI button with a custom command to like win+G key to launch the xbox game bar but again it has a mouse mode, that you can use to launch your games
I agree. The noise the switches has always been my main beef with mice that come with "new and improved" optical switches, they also have a tendency of being overly sensitive. So despite the prolonged life cycle they come with, I would still go for old school mechanical switches if offered the choice.
@@_bhp that's true, but it does define its minimum, and meeting poll rate at high rates implies meeting latency deadlines at those rates. An architect or dev might improve debounce algorithm times, or allow shorter AD conversion times through choice part selection, or whatever, but they'll never get lower latency than the polling rate allows. Everything else which contributes to latency is additional to that baseline, stacked on top of that polling window - 4ms (milli) here where the state of the art is 125us (micro) - so all those other important things you are considering, they still matter equally either way, but polling rate still matters a lot, too. Not to mention that at 125us per update, all those other matters you might be referring to, absolutely need to be taken care of... If you see a controller that will actually generate real data at a polling rate of 8kHz, it's implied that they've taken care of everything they can, to achieve the lowest latency. Component capabilities vary weekly and I'm not in the industry any more, but I'd hazard a guess that the same 'if the polling rate is that high, the other stuff is fine too' rule would extend to 4k and 2k at least. Expecting 10s or even 100s of microseconds of delay at the component level is pretty fair. Meanwhile, meeting the deadline for USB polling is not difficult at 4ms on any suitable microcontroller from recent years. All those other things that do '= latency', don't really matter at 250Hz anyhow. You sure don't need a full 4ms to read a couple dozen voltages. So yeh, we should care about polling rate anyway, it defines the best we are gonna get from the device... but, anything over 1k (if it's REALLY generating 2/4/8,000 updates per second) poll rate pretty much does '= latency'. Well, '= latency *
Amazon review: "Stick drift should never be an issue since Tomas pointed out in one answer that this controller has hall effect sticks along with the triggers, not exactly sure how accurate that truly is though." Odd if it has hall effect sticks but that feature is not advertised.
@@VKsChannel it may or may not get. there are several reports of x360 controllers heavily used and never had stick drift. its all about the components i'm afraid. as everything nowadays nothing is made to last including potentiometers. probably less pron to problems when compared to others brands i would say.
it has unique feature: you don't need any software or service in the background to simulate mouse movements through gyro, everything is built in dongle after configuration is done on beitong app
Definitely love some of the ideas these controllers bring to the table. I dont understand how chinese companies are doing a better job with their controllers than xbox, playstation and nintendo . In my opinion the best controllers for their consoles are not even theirs
Not only them, but also Hori and other known brands. Hori makes dependable and good quality controllers, but they're cheap and barebones, they lack in features and innovations.
the pro controller is great imo
Because they're niche demands that the majority of gamers (casuals) do not care about and only bump up prices.
@@JordiumZthat has to be top 3 worst controllers I've ever used 💀
@@_MJ07_than why are sony contollers $80 💀
If beitong made a controller exactly like this with hall effect sticks it would probably be the best PC/switch controller EVER
Great video, the Chinese are really innovating in the gamepad scene.
I hope more controllers include extra shoulder buttons like this one, from now on.
What is the shortest delay that can be programmed in macros between one commend and the next? 1ms is possible?
Not just gamepads, all kinds of gadgets are leading the way
I'm using this gamepad around one and half year and this is one of the best controllers with really an amazing quality. Quality of materials much better than from Flydigi. But I Apex 4 and Vader 3Pro on of my favorite gamepads. Flydigi 4Pro preordered already, waiting for Beitong Zeus 3.
P.S. Mouse option on PC it is a killer feature.
bro do you know when beitong zeus 3 is coming out?😮
bro do you know when beitong zeus 3 is coming out?😮
I love top shortcuts, they are so comfortable for action rpg games. Hoping for a revision or new model of this controller with HE sticks, higher polling rate and microswitch trigger stops. A man can dream!
I might have to buy some of the face button modules just to steal the switches cuz you can't buy them anywhere 😂
holo sticks are actually a thing for 20+ years, first added at Sega consoles
Very cool control, love new ideas! Especially the different modules. Great vid!
Thank you for this!
I've been looking at this controller for at least a year and was hesitant about it ((especially cause I didn't see much about their software) also it seems better the flydigi software lol)
How robust is the Keyboard mapping aspect
like can you bind media key / f13-24 like in rewasd (cause f23 is my ptt button and I love having one on my controller)
Goat Controller/console/hardware reviewer🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
every time I think I have a good PRO controller a better one comes😂😂😂this is better than the Apex 4 I wish it had RGB
The Machenike G5 Pro v2 has even better optical switches
2000hz and mechanical (optical) trigger stops on the v3 and it's the best on the market
Parabéns pelo seu conteúdo, atualmente o melhor no nincho de gamepad. 👏
The Hall effect sticks with the white tip are for the Nintendo switch
ngl, a black and silver could be pretty neat
the Apex 4 is not good for fighting games this controller definitely looks good for fighting games press short buttons is hard but this looks much easier on this controller!!! I'm definitely buying this!
That is so great! Thank you so much for your sharing🤩
U guys have the best back buttons placement ever! seriously amazing controller :)
I almost bought one of their controllers when I bought the Apex 3. These seem very well build and they have features that sometimes you don't find on other controllers. I just feel that the price and their foreign market view is not the best. For example the joystick tension gimmick of the Apex 4 Beitong had a controller with it with a much more user friendly approach, a rotating ring on the base of the joysticks instead of a screw behind a faceplate. Much more user friendly and quicker way. Even their fighting gamepad is highly recommended by several people. The only downside on this one and the other one with tension setting is that they don't have hall joysticks besides pricing obviously. But I think they are probably out of the market for gamepads. Their new one is just a rebranded Mamba gamepad.
Does this have Hall thumbstick modules?
Definitely a nice controller, would like to get one at some point, if for no other reason for the ease of switching stuff out for when something breaks; really wish more controllers had that option..
The weak point of these optical switches is the copper spring. The same switches are in the Razer and Pulsar mice. In my Razer, after a year, the left button clicked twice as weakly as the right one.
I hope more controllers start using optical switches. The new Machenike G5 V2 uses optical switches as well. It is easily the best feature on the Zeus 2.
I wanna review this one soon
Lol those optical switches looks just like the ones Razer use in their gaming mouses.
If it had the apex 4 analogues it would be the best control on the market..great review
You caught the re-upload haha there's a small added bonus on 30:50
a lot of people are reporting the left stick in the apex 4 to be faulty, its the most common issue on amazon
@@masterdna117yes, but this was due to machine malfunction
@@masterdna117 I saw this and reported back to flydigi, they said it was a problem with one batch and it was already fixed for future batches
One of the best unintentional ASMR vids ive seen lol, do you know if the controller can do gyro to joystick either through steam (as pro controller I assume) or native software?
Do you happen to have recommendations for the best adapter to use to connect an Xbox controller and a PS5 controller wirelessly to a Windows PC? I'm essentially looking for the best adapter for both types of controllers that allows me to wirelessly use them on a Windows PC with the least amount of delay/lag.
Why is it that as soon as this becomes streamline everyone is doing their best to silence it? The irony.
Hi, recently I saw a gamepad with sticks modules that support hotswap, just like switches on a mechanical keyboard. This one I saw is Machenike G6 pro but there are probably other models with this feature. On aliexpress it was for something like 50 bucks.
Would be nice so see how it's works.
I will try to review it soon
No small screen and RGB lights like the Manba One
$75 on aliexpress
Entre ele e o Apex 4, qual você considera melhor?
O apex 4 é melhor mas calramente porque é mais moderno e tem tecnologia mais recente lançada nesse ano
Is it compatible with PS5 games
good looking
What about Input Delay? Can you Test it in Shooter Games?
Any recommend custom controller for ps4?
how to make X botton in autofiremode without software, I dont undurstand . I need to press Fn+X then X will be in autofiremode?
Only through the software =/
@@VKsChannel can U send me software on email winrared?
@@VKsChannel Can U send me winrared software on my email becouse I cant download for some reasons?
Does this controller have an HD rumble on Nintendo Switch ?
😻
Test Fun Cooler 4 Pro and Mag Cooler 4 Pro pls
I tested the fun cooler 3, is the fun cooler 4 better?
Nice clickbait, the G5 Pro v2 has the best optical micro switches.
ABXY are not optical just the triggers
@@VKsChannel yeah they are
Looks like a prototype not a final product
Dpad can be overlooked
Wireless charging is slower than wired so it's a useless feature that adds to the price
Still expensive for a non hall effect sticks controller
Can work for ps5
daaaaaaaaaaaamn 250hz smh so close yet so far
can u rewiew 8bitdo ultimate 2c
I have reviewed the ultimate already the 2C is just a variant
Do any of the buttons function as the Xbox Guide button in windows?
Which button is guide?
I only know options,view share and home
@@VKsChannel I guess it would be the equivalent to “home”?
The button that launches steam big picture mode.
@@matrixkitty oh unfortunately on pc there is no way to launch the home button but perhaps you can configure the AI button with a custom command to like win+G key to launch the xbox game bar
but again it has a mouse mode, that you can use to launch your games
Polling rate locked correct?
I havent tried to overclock it
I need to grab a tutorial first
sadly optical is too loud for my preference
I agree.
The noise the switches has always been my main beef with mice that come with "new and improved" optical switches, they also have a tendency of being overly sensitive.
So despite the prolonged life cycle they come with, I would still go for old school mechanical switches if offered the choice.
I don't like the controller's color that's my only issue wish it came in other colors and design But I love the software so much better that Flydigi
They also have another color
Seems close to godlike by 2022 standards, but needs a deep price cut today to be considered over say an Apex 4 or Vader 4 Pro
the cheapest one in my country marketplace was around 295 usd.. and it's not selling at all 😂
Should be like 60 bucks if its only 250 Hz.... Trash
poll rate doesn't = latency
Should only be $60 period. Nothing about game controller screams “I’m worth over $100 buy me!!!!!” It’s all a scam.
@@_bhp that's true, but it does define its minimum, and meeting poll rate at high rates implies meeting latency deadlines at those rates.
An architect or dev might improve debounce algorithm times, or allow shorter AD conversion times through choice part selection, or whatever, but they'll never get lower latency than the polling rate allows. Everything else which contributes to latency is additional to that baseline, stacked on top of that polling window - 4ms (milli) here where the state of the art is 125us (micro) - so all those other important things you are considering, they still matter equally either way, but polling rate still matters a lot, too.
Not to mention that at 125us per update, all those other matters you might be referring to, absolutely need to be taken care of... If you see a controller that will actually generate real data at a polling rate of 8kHz, it's implied that they've taken care of everything they can, to achieve the lowest latency. Component capabilities vary weekly and I'm not in the industry any more, but I'd hazard a guess that the same 'if the polling rate is that high, the other stuff is fine too' rule would extend to 4k and 2k at least. Expecting 10s or even 100s of microseconds of delay at the component level is pretty fair.
Meanwhile, meeting the deadline for USB polling is not difficult at 4ms on any suitable microcontroller from recent years. All those other things that do '= latency', don't really matter at 250Hz anyhow. You sure don't need a full 4ms to read a couple dozen voltages.
So yeh, we should care about polling rate anyway, it defines the best we are gonna get from the device... but, anything over 1k (if it's REALLY generating 2/4/8,000 updates per second) poll rate pretty much does '= latency'. Well, '= latency *
All these improvements put into the controller but it seems to use the inherently faulty drifty thumbstick potentiometers?
Amazon review: "Stick drift should never be an issue since Tomas pointed out in one answer that this controller has hall effect sticks along with the triggers, not exactly sure how accurate that truly is though." Odd if it has hall effect sticks but that feature is not advertised.
@@cyborg7898 nope it's just potentiometer sticks it can get drift with time
and as I've explained at the time there were no hall effect sticks in the market, the gulikit king kong 2 pro wasn't even released yet
@@VKsChannel Ah, thank you for the clarification.
@@VKsChannel it may or may not get. there are several reports of x360 controllers heavily used and never had stick drift. its all about the components i'm afraid. as everything nowadays nothing is made to last including potentiometers. probably less pron to problems when compared to others brands i would say.