1965 COMET BUILD, PART 3: ENGINE ROUTE REVEAL
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- In this Episode we reveal what engine we will be using in the 1965 Comet Build. Did we stick with the ol 289 and C4 transmission combo or did we choose to go with the newer roller 5.0L and 5spd transmission? Watch the video to find out!
From a content perspective, the 289 is much more interesting to me.
Michael, Honestly you and Derek from VGG are the only two tubers that I watch EVERY video. I watch some others, but you guys are more my flavor. I'm sending this before I even watch this one, cause I KNOW. There ya have it!
Hello William, thank you very much! Honored to be right there along side Derek as your favorite UA-cam channels! We both appreciate your support!
My pleasure Mike, well deserved! Gmail pegged me as William, but I'm Bill
Digging that dirt out of the frame rail is Carchaeology.
😅😅😅😁
In all seriousness, I am enjoying this build. Don't know why, but this particular car seems to really grab my attention. 👍
Carchaeology 🤣 love it! Thanks for tuning it, glad you're enjoying the series/build!
learned to drive in a 65 comet, i am enjoying see this video series. bringing back so many memories with my dad teaching me about cars.
Bunch of other channels to watch someone swap a 5.0 into old ford was here for the saving of old cars not just swapping in the new stuff. Best of luck with your resto mod.
Kudos on the vid. I finished my 1966 Mercury Comet last summer. It was my first ever car build. I rebuilt the original 390fe and kept the 4 speed toploader. She is a blast to cruise in.
Can’t believe you do so much in that space! Wow
Next couple episodes get pretty tight lol. Gotta make whatever space we have work, especially in the winter time
Always loved those 5.0l engines. Great project 👍
They are pretty great, and most won't be able to tell if it's a 289 or a 5.0L when I'm done with it
How do you think one would work in a 64 Falcon 2dr post?
Smart man swapping out the 289. Especially with a running 302 and a T-5.
Yeah it was a no brainer really, should be a nice combo
@@Theoldcarchannel. yes sir.
great video, like the motor your doing an awesome job
Thanks John!
As I listen to this Video, You answered my previous comment from the 50th-anniversary video. Thanks for being thourogh.
Another good job with a good explanation. Thank You.
Appreciate it Larry, glad you enjoyed it
Archaeologist! Funny and so true
Love the channel wish more uploads but lots of good stuff I am from Vaughan man it would be cool to come by meet you guys maybe give a bit of a hand on a project
As always.. great job!
Thanks Robert!👍
Great episode Mike! Nice choice on engine. Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks Paul! Should be a good runner! Next episode might be earlier than next weekend, stay tuned! 🔔
@@Theoldcarchannel. Always glad to see updates Mike ! Sooner is better than later for sure !
Great episode👍That fuel injection system began in 87 for that 5.0 block
S.E.F.I.
@@joeschlotthauer840 86 was the year of injected 5.0 in Mustang.
@@qball1of1
Wow, first year for S.E.F.I. was 1986, my memory is slipping...
Change the pilot bearing. You've already got it apart. A lot of these FI engines came with the fuel pump eccentric, weird, maybe they needed it to work with that style timing set? This is a great project, love it.
The pilot bearing will be brought up in a future episode (all dependent on the trans situation *will make sense when the video comes out*).
The 89 engine that's in the 65 fastback didn't have the eccentric, so I'm thinking this is/was just something ford did for a year or two of the transition between carb and fuel injected engines.
Thank you, glad you're enjoying it! More to come!
@@Theoldcarchannel. a few years back I bought a GT40P crate engine that had a FI timing cover and also the fuel pump eccentric. Maybe they were just using what was in the parts bins.
@@garymatthys3605 The crate engine was offered for a variety of retrofits. Fitting it with the cam, even though it might not be used, just facilitates swaps to older vehicles.
Not a Ford guy by upbringing but you have my attention with this Comet. The stacked headlights, lines and color are just my flavor. I think the 5.0/T5 will make it a super fun cruiser. Keep grinding, maybe we will see it on HRPT...if that's a thing anymore.
Glad it's caught your attention, definitely not a popular car like a mustang or camaro, but that's one of the reasons I like it... not alot of people know about these comets.
5.0L and 5spd combo will be great for Power Tour, hoping it happens later this year. If so I'll see you out there forsure!
14:05 that's characteristics of the engine. No kidding....
I'm a retired Ford, Lincoln, Mercury technician....
Literally did a couple of thousand of these repairs. I think warranty r&r time was 2.7hrs....
Like your time lapse music
Great choice , can’t go wrong with 5 litres swap . How ever im old skool and love high winning 289 , little work into them and they can really go and the are bullette prof , i guess im 50 50 on this one , great work , well done and i love the video , keep up the good work , and yes its cold too in edson alberta lol
I did one of these about 15 years ago. I ended up with a 347 stroked motor with a b & m 144 blower on it. It ran great, smoke the tires at will, and since I rebuilt everything, handled great. Some uninsured guy t boned me on the freeway, bent the frame and the unibody, and turned it into a parts car. I ended up using the motor trans in another 60 Falcon, and the rear and wheels on a 1924 Chrysler with a 671 supercharged early hemi. I am in the middle of a 1968 AMX at the moment. I subbed to your channel, take a look at mine, and leave me a comment if you will. Tom
You guys up in the great white north do some great work. I was going through my sub list, and I sub to more Canadian guys than I do USA. Keep up the good work!
Hey Gary, thank you lol! We definitely do try out best! Hopefully one day I'll be in the US though. Need more sunshine in my life
Good choice.
Waiting for the next video in the Comet rebuild!
I know I've been slacking lately on editing. Began spot welding the 66 mustang project back together this week so didn't have much time to edit.
ClassicMustang429 shall now be known as ClassicTetris429!
🤣🤣🤣 Oh God LOL
great white north!
⛄☃️ thank God it's almost spring! Lol
Yea baby - waiting for this episode🏁🏁🍺🏁🍺🏁
Appreciate the support!😎 🍻
The 5.0 is a great motor. I have a variant of it in my Range Rover Sport. Almost 400 hp stock.
Says FoMoCo in lots of places
Nice job, love your channel.
Thank you! Greatly appreciate it!
You have really cool /nice rides bud!
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Really liking this series on the Comet. It will be interesteing to see how much you make the 'newer' engine look like the original Comet engine. For example, will the Comet valve covers fit over the rockers on the later engine?
Glad you're enjoying it, thank you! Unfortunately the original valve cover do not work with the 5.0L's rockers. So will most likely go with a k code look
Good job
But on a positive note you can use a lot of Maverick V8 parts on it. For the rear end I used a 59-60 Ford Fairlane or Galixie wagon. Dropped in
glad to see your not junking it all up a chevy motor...you should paint the valve covers gold so it will look kind of original ..i'm sure you will thro a chrome air cleaner on it
Ford stands for Fantastically Organized Racing Device! Keepon keepin on. GOD bless!
fix or repair daily
@@mgunning7362 or a GMC. General mass of crap!
You guys keep your oil dri in a Kiss garbage can? Please sell me the Kiss garbage can!
Great channel a lot of useful information, I learn a lot when I watch, Thanks!
awesome video . I was just wondering is it possible that one of the other arms on the engine stand would have been longer that would have fit?
Thank you, nice 65 in your profile picture! Unfortunately all the arms were the same length, had to modify the main plate (elongate the slot a bit) and it fit. It’s a cheap engine stand (have to do it every time we buy a new one).
1965 Mercury Vomit with a throw-up hood and bucket seats , just in case.
That looks to be a 1986 HO out of a Mustang. That was the changeover year for fuel injection so they still had fuel pump eccentric on them. They also had true flat top pistons with no valve reliefs, so you can’t go crazy with your cam.
I would like to ask where you get your music for you videos awesome stuff very nice
No problem, All the music I use in my videos if from UA-cam studio I believe it's called
I love it!
That was great ,i think you are doing the right thing. That should be a bit of a beast. Keep cranking m8 ,all the best Danny uk 👍👍
Thank you both! Should be a fun ride when all said and done😎
Hi like what you to the old car don't forget to put the freeze plug in your 429
Love your project also. But you got to keep in mind you have a internal balanced engine vs external
5.0L are 50z balance on the flywheel and harmonic balance, old 289 are 28oz. Everything is fine since it's all 5.0L parts (new harmonic balancer is 50oz)
Okay I'm sorry I had a problem with my 64 project I put the 3 bolt balance on . Had one heck of a vibration.
Hey Mike! Great content as always! Both you and your dad look like the kind of guys you just want to get to know over a beer or two. I don't get it how you don't have more viewers.
BTW what's the story with the blue 69 we keep seeing in this series? Is it the one that belongs to your uncle that we've seen some time ago?
Hello, thank you for the kind words! Always up for meeting fans/ subscribers and having a beer or two with them. As for the amount of viewers... 🤷 would be nice to have a larger following as this would be nice to do as a full time gig, unfortunately at this rate that won't be happening for a long while.
The story on the 69 that you're seeing is a long one and will hopefully be featured on the channel on of these days... its a 69 Mach 1 428 SCJ car. Bought it off the original owner.
@@Theoldcarchannel. It would be awesome to meet up some day. It is a long way for me but I have friends that live in Toronto so I'll probably come visit eventually. Let's see how it goes with the plague :P
I totally think your channel has what it takes so fingers crossed! I guess you just need one build that brings in the big crowd. Maybe this Mach 1 could be it?🤔 Looks like an amazing car and big block Mustangs surely grab a lot of attention.
I recently bought my first Mustang, it's also a 69 sportsroof but not a Mach. Can't wait to start working on it! I'll surely use some knowledge I picked up from you :)
I'm doing the exact same 5.0 T5 swap. Mine is standard steering and have a cable clutch set up can you tell me what headers you plan on using ? I've tried at least four different types but they all have issues
well, at least it's not an ls swap.
i'm converting a '71 302 (with 5.0 belt drive) to look like an early 289 so this migh be helpful.
Yeah I couldn't do that to this car haha.
This series will definitely be helpful for your 71 build. Let me know if you need any info
@@Theoldcarchannel. thanks man. i want to use a three bolt pulley and balancer and wonder if i need the adapter i think you mentioned. love the channel anyways but watching this more closely.
@@Ecosse57 Appreciate the support! The harmonic balancer that you require since your engine is a 1971 302 and not a late model 5.0L foxbody engine, will be different than what I'm using. I'm using summits part number #SUM-163302 which is 50oz externally balanced. If yours is truly a 71 engine it will be a 28oz externally balanced engine which will require the #SUM-163289 harmonic balancer
*Have you ever done or considered a 2.3 Lima 4 cylinder build with or without turbocharger...*
I have not and haven't thought about it really... I would have to look into it more
@@Theoldcarchannel.
*"Your mission Jim, if you decide to accept it, of course, if you fail, the secretary will disavow any involvement..."*
What I'd give for a pair of those rocker covers!! They are rocking horse dung in Australia....... We only got the pressed tin ones on our 5.0's but we did get the GT40 intakes on the last of ours.
Ask Mike to send you them..can't see it being much more than 50 bucks to mail it, they weigh nothing and aren't huge.
@@qball1of1 Really!! How do I get his email address so I can ask him??
Cheers.
@@frankno2plus1 Click on his homepage and look under the "about" tab.. Worth a try, who knows people are busy but can't get an answer if one doesn't ask.
That roller motor is looking more like an '88-'89, based on the valve cover style.
That would be a nice surprise, but I believe the casting number is of an 86
Curious as to why you removed the serpentine belt in favor of the old-style v-belt.
Just for the look
I just took a Dremel and made my engine stand holes a little longer on the bottom 2 slide holes...
Yes you should have cleaned up AND painted the block before stripping down.
Personally I would keep the 289 on it .
Technically still keeping it... just in the garage instead of in the car 😉. There was too many red flags and I unfortunately don't have the time to rebuild it at the moment
The 289 was a hell of a little engine in its day, no dispute there. And I'd rather have the 289 over a flat-tappet 302. But the roller 5.0 is the superior retrofit. The torque and power output of a carbureted roller 5.0 is similar to that of an early 351W.
I would have used to 5.0 as a base too...no way do I want anything flat tappet anymore, just not worth it. Once it has some period covers etc on it, this will be perfect and should be fun to drive.
How much weight would you save taken all that efi hardware off. 🏴
Just curious why you decided to swap out so much rather than leave some as it was on the newer engine. Carb I get. Some of the other - Is it just to make it look as period as possible?
Correct,tiring to make it look period correct while having a rollerized engine. Never been a fan of the serpentine belt set up in the old cars unless it's a full blown protouring build.
So basically you're 5 O now 👮♂️ . 👍
I see what you did there *Ba dum tis* 😆😂
The comet is going to be a ripper
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Here in Colorado we have gloves.
Way up here in Canada we are "Real" men..ha-ha-ha-ha!..He'll learn while digging shavings from a puss filled hand!
somebody show this guy this stuff we have called "tape" we use to cover stuff we don't want paint to get on. also change those freeze plugs before painting the block would be better.
What would you have taped? And why is that in regards to the freeze plugs?
@@Theoldcarchannel. the ports in the heads where you had paper towels stuffed in there. and the reason to paint after changing plugs is you'd have to touch up after wards if you pinted first. besides those plugs need primer and paint too. might protect them from rusting again.
*I know black can be correct for this model and year, but paint it medium blue, it shows the oil leaks better...*
*EDIT, **20:30** Ah fook...*
Nice job brother
How many guys work in your shop?
This Video wasnt suggested although the bell is activated :(
Thanks UA-cam for throwing my vids to the way side... ah well, glad you got to watch it
Wish you would have kept the 289.
Don’t like the engine swap at all
I don't have time to rebuild an engine at the moment, and you won't be able to tell the difference when I'm done with it
I would just rebuild the 289 in the long run it will be cheaper!!
Cheaper? How so? 🤔
That car need a big block engine like 429 twins super changer lol
How many cars do you guys have?!?!?
Okay, so I have to know. Besides running a car based UA-cam channel, how/why so many cars? Just for fun, or was there once upon a time mechanic business happening?
Sorry you deceided to go with the 5.0.
The components for fuel injection are getting stupid hard to find because of everything being crush here in tennessee usa
That Comet engine was worn out!
Yikes...not much maintenance done on that poor 289 by the previous owners! Original engine, complete with original oil!
I dont think that's an 85 motor that style fuel injection came out I believe in early 90s
Black paint dissipates heat the best ,🦅
Lol I'll have to re read the can for that spec😉🤣
@@Theoldcarchannel. that's why GM painted them black in the 90's ,🦅
That's why GM painted there engins black
are they pacemaker headers painted a ugly shade of gray
I would like the have the fuel injection and or sepertine belt setup if possible cash trade
Where do you live?
@@Theoldcarchannel. Bristol tn by the nascar circle track and the drag track thunder valley
freeze plugs
Why eliminate the serpentine and fuelie? You're giving up a lot.
I want it to look old school. I'll have a car in the future that will be 5.0L swapped and will utilize the fuel injection and pulley set up
@@Theoldcarchannel. I get that - My 66 FB uses the v belt pulleys. But its 351C powered.
*You're going to need a bigger garage...*
You interested ina 351 cleveland? In ohio
Not at the moment, can't cross the borders without repercussions
Ya I get it I was gonna say i would give u it if u helped me retime my truck
Had enough of the stupid music. Unsubscribing.
🙋♂️ bye