Why Lola hid our family photos

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  • @marilynmonrose1324
    @marilynmonrose1324 3 місяці тому +41

    Your grandmother was very beautiful. Women of color back in those days could be taken advantage of at will with no one to help them, especially in southern states. She did what she had to do to protect herself and future generations.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 3 місяці тому +1

      She probably didn't really feel black any more since she was also Mexican and Native. Why should she say that she was black, especially when her husband and her children were not black really.

    • @marilynmonrose1324
      @marilynmonrose1324 3 місяці тому +6

      @@dinkster1729 Non-white women were assaulted at will back in those days with no protections. Again, she did what she had to do for her family's survival.

  • @bethel1242
    @bethel1242 3 місяці тому +40

    Danielle, my great-grandmother, was prejudiced against my mom even though she was Irish-African. Her husband, my great-grandfather, was Native American. I understand why the history of shame and hiding brings you to tears. My family still live on native lands in the Carolinas.

    • @susangrande8142
      @susangrande8142 3 місяці тому +4

      My husband is 1/4 Tuscarora/Mohawk, and on the tribal roles. Is the native land Tuscaroran, or another tribe? Just curious. Hubby’s relatives (that he knows about) live on the reservation near Niagara Falls, New York.

    • @massimilianomencacci2510
      @massimilianomencacci2510 3 місяці тому

      Irish African?

    • @justtruth5855
      @justtruth5855 3 місяці тому

      ​@@massimilianomencacci2510 the original Irish Scottish Welsh English were black.
      They fled to America, Africa, Jamaica etc. pope Nicholas wrote the Dum Diverses, known as Spanish Inquisition better known as The Transatlantic Slave Trade. Search for Europe Royal negro kings family Crests.

  • @handyman3526
    @handyman3526 3 місяці тому +29

    one of your best episodes. once we exhaust public records, finding forgotten and cherished photographs are like finding a pot of gold

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +3

      I really appreciate that!

    • @tantig5923
      @tantig5923 3 місяці тому

      ❤❤❤

    • @Marcel_Audubon
      @Marcel_Audubon 3 місяці тому

      if this disorganized mess is one of her best eppies, I had better not look at any of the others

  • @mcclendonreport
    @mcclendonreport 3 місяці тому +10

    You are one of the realest women online regarding the checkered past of America. You are a blessing to us. A million thank you’s to you.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +3

      you are making my day!

    • @mcclendonreport
      @mcclendonreport 3 місяці тому +3

      @@nytn You are a salve to a weary black man’s wounded spirit.

  • @cynthiagale6794
    @cynthiagale6794 3 місяці тому +15

    She was afraid because once she passed she knew she'd never be sage from bigots. I just pray that her life was happy and fulfilling. Many people from all walks of life left their families behind to have a better life. You all are her legacy and I hope that you're proud of her.

  • @elyjane8316
    @elyjane8316 3 місяці тому +9

    We are European Jews, living in Europe. I was led to understand that we were Sephardi. On looking through some photos with an elderly Aunt. Asked who they were, she didn't say, but moved on very quickly. I still don't know who they were, but they were photos of 'mountain Jews'. Just like people hid their African roots, we hid our, what was considered, the poor, uneducated roots...

  • @GazilionPT
    @GazilionPT 3 місяці тому +18

    5:32 Regarding Lola's name, I think her parents heard the Greek name "Laodicea" (Λαοδίκεια), but didn't know how to spell it - nor did the clerk at the registration office.
    Laodicea was the name of a Greek city in what is now Turkey. This toponym appears about half a dozen times in the New Testament, e.g. in Paul's letter to the Colossians, where he mentions "the brothers of Laodicea" (by that meaning the Christians living in Laodicea); maybe Lola's parents heard that and thought Laodicea was a great name for a girl.
    Indeed, the etymology of "Laodicea" points back to a very similar female name, "Laodice", the wife of the Seleucid king, Antiochus II; it is also the name of a Trojan princess mentioned in the Iliad.
    I think that - specially because of the Biblical connection - makes more sense than naming your child after some obscure fruit in Africa (specially because "Lodoicea" is its scientific name, probably no one outside the botanist milieu calls it that).

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +8

      This is SUCH a great lead. I’m going to dig around a bit. I should have thought of this but never connected it!

  • @shewhomustbobeyed1
    @shewhomustbobeyed1 3 місяці тому +10

    It’s a bloody shame racism being so pervasive and destructive people feel the need to run from their heritage. Inhumane and evil. Thank you for sharing. We are who we are because of all of our ancestors. I’m super mixed and proud. In fact have many times been accused of being Creole. I have Louisiana roots but know nothing about being creole. Families from Monroe.. Lake Charles area too. My family’s also from Puerto Rico. My ancestry is all over the map. I don’t reject anyone. Why would I. You can’t help your heritage. So may as well accept it.

  • @shewhomustbobeyed1
    @shewhomustbobeyed1 3 місяці тому +13

    Your family looks totally Latino.. which is not surprising as we’re African, European, and Native. Ya know what.. all this proves is how interconnected the human family truly is

    • @babyboy562
      @babyboy562 3 місяці тому

      Latino is not a race sister so what’s the “look” they come in every shade and race. Why do Dark Brown Latinos get labeled as Afro Latinos but mestizos, Mulattos, and those who can pass for white are just Latino. They always hide the “Black” indigenous Latinos and Afro Latinos in the closet but be the first to holla “Brown Pride!!” 😂 very racist culture who are all about looking white and producing white looking offspring

  • @vickypatout5361
    @vickypatout5361 3 місяці тому +13

    On Alphonse's draft card it probably says "his mark", which yes, means he couldn't sign his name so this is commonly done in that case. I worked in a Louisiana hospital for 12 years doing birth certificates & I am a notary, so I have run into this before in documents.❤

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому

      Thank you! I appreciate that so much

  • @virginiamorales1591
    @virginiamorales1591 3 місяці тому +6

    It’s so crazy finding out information about your ancestry through documents that you would never have thought could exist. My parents are from Puerto Rico and when I started my journey searching for my ancestry, I found out that my mother’s mother had her first child at the age of 13 😒. I was in shock. I felt so bad for her because she was a child. My mother’s parents were married and they had more children, but I wasn’t expecting to find out about that sad story. I told my mom, and she told me that back then people were crazy. I don’t know if she knew, but I suspect that she did and felt ashamed. But, yes you can find out so much about your family’s history through census, birth certificates, death certificates, matrimony, vets, etc. It is so interesting. I love history 😊. I like what you are doing and sharing it with us. Thanks 😊 ❤

  • @bettyjenkins2162
    @bettyjenkins2162 3 місяці тому +13

    Great pictures of your beautiful family

  • @ListenUpDemocracy
    @ListenUpDemocracy 3 місяці тому +9

    Colorism and passing are real. Such a fascinating look at it.

  • @jayregal6478
    @jayregal6478 3 місяці тому +9

    I think it is wonderful that you are able to speak your truth!

  • @regina3743
    @regina3743 3 місяці тому +10

    Have you explored the passing of native Americans? Do you have that in your background, as well? I had always heard stories about it in my family, and found definite indications in my DNA and when I started my ancestry search. Apparently, it happened on both sides of my family. I have a Cherokee and Upper Creek background. In Alabama, the last recorded native removal in the history and archives was 1939. It was dangerous to be native or black for so long. It’s just sad, but I’m thankful for my people and the fact that they survived. We are here. I hope my ancestors are proud of me. I’ve tried. Btw…you are precious! Thank you for your work!

  • @wendychapman7261
    @wendychapman7261 3 місяці тому +8

    This is so interesting. My mothers side of the family can not be traced. Her father did not know who he was. All I know, he was 4'11" dark complected, was a sharecropper, and took on the name of the people he worked for which was Smith. I feel in my heart he was a passenger on an orphan train. He went by the name of Roy Smith

    • @acebutterfly2725
      @acebutterfly2725 3 місяці тому +3

      Did you look up baptism records? Or the census?

    • @wendychapman7261
      @wendychapman7261 3 місяці тому +1

      @@acebutterfly2725 where,what,how?

    • @acebutterfly2725
      @acebutterfly2725 3 місяці тому +1

      @@wendychapman7261 You should start with your local library. Many libraries have genealogy sections and specialists in history etc that might be a good way to get started and maybe less overwhelming. There’s also online resources.

  • @thorpeaaron1110
    @thorpeaaron1110 3 місяці тому +49

    Watching this I feel bad for Lola having to hide her true identity just to be accepted by society hopefully she can her true self through you.

    • @thorpeaaron1110
      @thorpeaaron1110 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@etruscancivilizationI see but it's sad he had to do that either way.

    • @DwayneABryan
      @DwayneABryan 3 місяці тому +7

      ​​@@etruscancivilization oddly I see a lot of blame in that story... But she made the best decision she could for herself and her children. Judging by the host it seemed she did well by them.

    • @tagon70
      @tagon70 3 місяці тому +13

      @etruscancivilization this illustrates the perils of being black.. it must be nice to just slip into aNother race … meanwhile, the darker members of her family were stuck fighting to be full citizens.. I find it to be cowardly.. I guess it’s the old ,if you can’t beat them join them huh?

    • @paneofrealitychannel8204
      @paneofrealitychannel8204 3 місяці тому

      I am throwing so many BS flags on this whole narrative. In fact, it's ignorant and disgusting. You all just focus on the fact that there is some black mix in the family and ignore everything else?

    • @komiczar
      @komiczar 3 місяці тому +6

      ​​​@@tagon70"It must be nice," is an over simplification of the situations that many including Lola live through and the thought energy involved in avoiding those situations?
      Just the news of some one encountering those variations of those situations or even reflecting upon the reality is unsettling.
      Think about how you felt when you were first made aware that Humans could mistreat other Humans in the way that Emmit Till did?
      Imagine being made aware at a very young age in a time and place that this is a seemingly inescapable reality.
      Also keep in mind that Danielle does not have the entire story about her Lola.
      It was safer for Lola and her progeny, when you consider the variations of so-called "race and racism" during her time into the current time.
      What could be so nice about it?
      Surely Lola must have regularly questioned her decision several times, with reservations as to whether it was her best decision.
      Especially when the reminders are presented in unexpected ways.
      Lola's situation is really a lot less worse than those Humans came from Europe and accepted so-called "whiteness," as their designation, and joined in persecuting those without the lable ti gain favor with their peers and masters.
      Every action has its own inherent rewards and punishments already in place.
      No matter who you share with, you always sleep with yourself.

  • @jimiwhat79
    @jimiwhat79 3 місяці тому +11

    I think most family’s have pictures that never see the day of light, simply because no one cares, you are lucky a lot of people who want things hidden will throw all evidence of their past away. So in someways she did not want to erase her heritage, just didn’t want to talk about it, which isn’t strange for that generation..

  • @rocketreindeer
    @rocketreindeer 3 місяці тому +15

    My grandma from my adopted family had a weird combo of complimentary statements + shaming slurs about Indigenous people. Once she was with her bowling league when I took a bunch of kids from our Rez youth group to fun open afternoon bowling. Some of them didn't know how to bowl and I had to show them how to throw the balls instead of "lofting" them. We all had a lot of fun. Then a few weeks later, my grandma came up to me and was just furious. She said the kids lofting the balls was disgusting and she was embarrassed and ashamed of me. I told my mom about it and we agreed there was something a bit intense about it. After she passed away, my cousin did some research and apparently found out my grandma's father was Cree. I haven't asked him about it, but that's what he told my mom. I kept thinking back to my supposed shaming bowling afternoon with the kids after that. I don't think she wasn't aware of it, she must have known but never said a word about it and kept it stifled down. That's my guess anyways. She sometimes wasn't a very nice person, but I wonder how much of it was rooted in self-dislike.

  • @ginagaladriel
    @ginagaladriel 2 місяці тому +2

    A suggestion when putting names on Ancestry, do not add nicknames on the main profile name, add them as "Also Known As", this will give you more hints, as the algorithm is searching for a string "name" + "last name" as you enter it, yes, it may have "sound as" etc, but it will be easier if you just provide the first middle and last name, then add the other names they were known as as separate values :)

  • @justred5164
    @justred5164 3 місяці тому +7

    My paternal grandmother was a white woman in Jim Crow south married to my black grandfather. They married in 1929 and my grandfather would often tell the story about how when they married his mother wouldn’t allow my grandmother in her home for fear of being attacked because of their marriage.
    The funny part is that nobody ever said my grandmother was white and I didn’t realize it until I was about 15 years old 😂😂. Everyone was very fair skinned so I didn’t notice 😂😂😂
    I often wondered if their marriage was valid because of her race..🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @lyndaclough3462
    @lyndaclough3462 3 місяці тому +6

    She looks so happy to be with them.

  • @daphnecollier9264
    @daphnecollier9264 3 місяці тому +2

    Each episode you keep glowing. It seems as you speak “the Truth “ of your BLACKNESS you keep radiating. Please continue to tell the truth. Bless you

  • @beverlyodom-jackson2329
    @beverlyodom-jackson2329 3 місяці тому +4

    Talking about names my grandmother was Emma louzola. Although her and my mother were mistaken for many races as a child I perceived them to be colored (what they used in the 50’s) because I was. My youngest son when he was about 3 years old asked me is grandma white? I said no. He was baffled.

  • @rroadmap
    @rroadmap 3 місяці тому +5

    That says "his mark". He made an x for his mark and somebody signed the name for him.

  • @bluejay9968
    @bluejay9968 3 місяці тому +8

    I'm 80% African. All of my great-grandparents' siblings disappeared. I believe they all passed for white accept for three of them.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +7

      this is such a terrible referendum on our recent national history. Do you ever think about finding the grand kids?

    • @bluejay9968
      @bluejay9968 Місяць тому

      Yes. I heard one got found out and was murdered/stabbed, and a mysterious fire happened in her home. ​@@nytn

  • @sarawasson3251
    @sarawasson3251 3 місяці тому +5

    When an old document cites something like cruelty as the reason for a divorce, it may not be true. No-fault divorces didn’t exist in the US until 1969 (California,) so some type of wrongdoing had to be listed.

    • @pkmcnett5649
      @pkmcnett5649 3 місяці тому +1

      ...and it was not always the man being cruel to the woman. Sometimes, the cruelty was on the woman's part.

  • @amb7412
    @amb7412 3 місяці тому +3

    Love seeing these leafs on your family tree and how you've made it all connect. I'm still struggling to pull information together myself and i find it daunting at times. Great video!

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +3

      It feels so daunting. I have quit certain ancestors for months at a time. When I come back, sometimes there are new leads 😀😀

    • @amb7412
      @amb7412 3 місяці тому +2

      @@nytn This gives me hope! Sometimes steeping give a new prospective or someone has added additional info. Someone on my tree added a directory with my Great-Grandmother's address and her store name Loftly's Place. Seeing this information and my mom confirming it makes things more real. I'll keep going!

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +2

      Did I already ask if you were in cousin Alex’s genealogy Facebook group?

    • @amb7412
      @amb7412 3 місяці тому

      @@nytn No I need to join that because I could use some guidance.How do I locate it? Thanks.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +2

      He us under SW Louisiana Creole genealogy, but he covers thousands of families. He's amazing. You have to request to be added, but just make a note that I sent you. If he cant help, he knows who can.

  • @bryonbiondolillo6545
    @bryonbiondolillo6545 3 місяці тому +4

    They do have a way of shutting up questions they don't like down there....

  • @stephanienwadieiiamhybasia
    @stephanienwadieiiamhybasia 2 місяці тому +1

    Such a brave man. He was Incognegro. I appreciate his remembering his father and what happened in the hospital.😥. ❤Love him.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  2 місяці тому +1

      so so brave

  • @annatomasso5226
    @annatomasso5226 3 місяці тому +3

    Always enjoy your content!

  • @ZendreGlymph
    @ZendreGlymph 3 місяці тому +1

    Danielle, Thank you for what you’re doing. I noticed a lot of my great-grandparents and their parents race vary. I even found one great-grandfather original race was crossed out. Glad I was close with my Mom’s mother. She let me in on family history.

  • @crystalfreeland1153
    @crystalfreeland1153 Місяць тому +1

    My daddy was dark complected with jet black hair and ice blue eyes. In the summer, he would get DARK. His mom claimed he had Native ancestry. He was born in McCreary Co, KY in 1934. When he passed away in 1992, many people were shocked when visiting the funeral home. My dad was dark, made up and people remarked that he looked remarkably like George Jefferson in the casket. I believe he was Melungeon. I miss him so much.

  • @Rebecca-le9hn
    @Rebecca-le9hn 3 місяці тому +1

    This is just a suggestion. Regarding the name of your grandmother Lola. Lodi is a surname found most often in Italy. It is a Province of Milan. Sosea means Praises in Italian.
    the Surname lodi is also found in Brazil and Hungary. Just another rabbit hole that might lead somewhere.
    In the book "Storyville, New Orleans: Being an Authentict, Illustrated Account of the Notorious Red-Light Distric" by Al Rose. There is mention of an Olga Lodi, The Italian Queen.
    You might be able to find more info on James Perrault because on his draft card it shows he worked for the WPA (Works Progress Administration) a government program.

  • @LaDeLaO
    @LaDeLaO 2 місяці тому +1

    I just started my journey- I am also puzzled to the name changes- I am now widening my search to incorporate potential changes, especially since mine borders Mexico and Texas- variances to spelling makes it so difficult! Appreciated the subject and you sharing!!

  • @stephanienwadieiiamhybasia
    @stephanienwadieiiamhybasia 3 місяці тому +3

    Lovely stories. Thank you for sharing.
    We all have family secrets that was taken to the grave.❤

  • @annecollins1741
    @annecollins1741 3 місяці тому +2

    I enjoy watching your videos. Keep them coming.

  • @habibahq4272
    @habibahq4272 3 місяці тому +2

    THE FRENCH THING. How come people believed French were dark but not "Black"? Was it okay to be "black" from anywhere but America?
    Your family is gorgeous by the way. All of them.

    • @cosmicrae
      @cosmicrae 2 місяці тому +1

      It depends. Coz many old tribes of people who migrated to different parts of the world would be dark skinned but not black (very early groups)? Like environmental adaptation? Many reasons to get dark skin, and may have features similar to Black people, but not particularly of African descent? That's a possible reason.

    • @habibahq4272
      @habibahq4272 2 місяці тому

      @@cosmicrae would they have appeared "mulatto"? I was wondering why it would just be brushed off like...French was an acception and yet still "white". I have seen strong evidence that the Hugenots were indeed "black" by phenotype in many cases. "Black" does not mean African...nor does Negro.

  • @johnnyearp52
    @johnnyearp52 3 місяці тому +1

    Good to see your channel again.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +1

      Welcome back! Hope you are doing well :)

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nytn Thanks, I am ok now but I was in the hospital and sick.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +1

      Im so sorry, I hope you are on the mend. 😟

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nytn Yes, thanks! I hope you and your family are doing well!

  • @franciscophile6281
    @franciscophile6281 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for this video. I was wondering about Lola.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +2

      You are so welcome!

  • @Redlurk3
    @Redlurk3 3 місяці тому +4

    In my own family Grammas side of the family was 'French canadian' do French canadian my Great Grandmother was carried on a cradle board into the Upper Peninsula

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому

      Wow that’s incredible

    • @rroadmap
      @rroadmap 3 місяці тому

      Wow!

  • @Sandi533
    @Sandi533 3 місяці тому +1

    So interesting! Thx for sharing your family .

  • @Maan_QUIT_ALLDAT
    @Maan_QUIT_ALLDAT 3 місяці тому +1

    Interesting. I remember.
    Watching your video on the Malone jet and the Goin's family. My grandmother's maiden name was Goin.Texas and our people came from around the carolina area

  • @tevincoolbeats
    @tevincoolbeats 3 місяці тому +3

    this great love your family stories

  • @IndomitableAde
    @IndomitableAde 3 місяці тому +4

    11:33 _his_ mark. He couldn't write and someone signed on his behalf.

  • @paulacribb56
    @paulacribb56 3 місяці тому

    Our stories are so similar in so many ways. Loved this video!

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +1

      Great to see you! 💕

  • @ImliterallySusieOfficial
    @ImliterallySusieOfficial 3 місяці тому +4

    They look like true Natives - the men are handsome

  • @robertab7341
    @robertab7341 3 місяці тому +2

    An original photo in a large family. Please have it scanned or copied. If your wallet gets lost/taken it is gone for ever. An aunt had 3 photos of 3 sisters one my gm, one went to Canada - there were more. She knew who they were. She would not let me borrow to copy. She e would not let me write the names on the back. Never seen them since and she is dead. If it had been a time of mobile phones I would have taken snaps.

  • @maryjackson1194
    @maryjackson1194 3 місяці тому +1

    Perhaps the uncle who married very late and divorced soon was closeted. "Cruelty" could be a euphemism for surprising her with that fact or refusing to do his marital duty.

  • @kayenjee
    @kayenjee 3 місяці тому +1

    Did you know that the Houston Public Library (TX) has a genealogy library? It's supposed to be good, but I haven't checked it out.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +2

      No! That sounds like a must do

  • @vivianclark7032
    @vivianclark7032 2 місяці тому +1

    GREAT grenealogical work!! You need your very own PBS Special! Have you thought of partnering with Dr Henry Louis Gates? If not, consider it....This is real American History unearthed! Maybe you can also reach out to the Smithsonian Museum in Wash, DC. I would love to see your findings featured there. Give it a try!! Wishing you all the best and continued success! I too have been bitten by the genealogy bug. Every day is a new discovery. I'm sure our ancestors are proud that we want to remember them and keep their memories alive.

  • @sandraconley4025
    @sandraconley4025 2 місяці тому

    FYI, some people's race changed yearly based on the enumerator's determining of the person's race. The enumerator would often rely on the information provided by neighbors.

  • @welcometomrgseducation2153
    @welcometomrgseducation2153 3 місяці тому +4

    Though my context is South Africa during Apartheid, there are close parallels of ethnic identity and being ambiguous in looks

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +1

      That is something I keep meaning to learn more about!

    • @cosmicrae
      @cosmicrae 2 місяці тому

      They have their own categorising of people in SA. Look up "Tyla" the singer. People are going nuts that she identified as "coloured" in SA, but Americans kinda want her to identify as Black. Not knowing SA has another system for categorising people that's also rooted in apartheid. ​@@nytn

  • @malindawilczynski2774
    @malindawilczynski2774 Місяць тому

    My grandmother did the same thing. All photos were kept at the bottom of a trunk, and she told her children not to ever let anyone see them because they were "Indians" and people would be predjudiced to them because of this. My mother said many looked african. They were gone by the time I came along. She also cut off contact with much of her relatives, except siblings. The family was from the Harlan Co, KY, and Lee County VA area where there are many melungeons. My DNA test did bear this out, showing african ancestry.

  • @paneofrealitychannel8204
    @paneofrealitychannel8204 3 місяці тому +1

    Reading some of the comments- it's infuriating. I hate that she went to New York and was made to feel ashamed of her identity. I can assure you that this did not happen to her in her home state, where she was surrounded by tens of thousands of people just like her.
    You are welcome here anytime!

  • @Jenjen-qc5eq
    @Jenjen-qc5eq 3 місяці тому +1

    Danielle, it would be great if you looked into actresses of the 30s who hid their ethnicity, eg Merle Oberon and Vivien Leigh, Carol Channing of the 50s and the Black writer Anatole Broyard. Also, do a segment on Hollywood and how they portrayed issues of Blacks passing for Whites, eg Pinky, Imitation of Life and the 2021 film Passing, starring the Black Irish actress Ruth Negga. It wasn't only Blacks who passed for Whites there were also South Asians, ie India. There were also Black actresses, eg Fredi Washington, who could have easily passed for White but refused to do so, apparently, she would go into White-only shops and buy sandwiches for her Black friends and crew members. By the way, I love your channel you are clearly on the road to self-discovery.

  • @philamoureux675
    @philamoureux675 3 місяці тому

    We're all Greatfull for You Cousin.

  • @MissEve911
    @MissEve911 3 місяці тому +2

    On the Selective Service called the notation of the “X” refers states “his mark”

    • @gazoontight
      @gazoontight 3 місяці тому

      His mark would have been made by him if he was illiterate. I believe that someone would have had to witness the making of the mark for it to be legal. But obviously someone did because the form is completed.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому

      That makes sense! Also how sad - I kept seeing this for various siblings 😪

  • @Myopinionmattersthemost
    @Myopinionmattersthemost 3 місяці тому +1

    I have a 3rd great aunt Lodisca who became Dixie. Names were always changing.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому

      always changing !

  • @jayste9334
    @jayste9334 2 місяці тому

    Oh oh oh... Ouachita (Washitaw) County...the mound builders. A tribal nation heavily influenced by Africans as far bk as 6000 B.C. The book by Paul Alfred Barton titled "A History of The African-Olmecs: Black Civilizations of America from Prehistoric Times to the Present Era". Sums up previous works and does a good job presenting similarities through different historical periods.

  • @kcn7826
    @kcn7826 3 місяці тому +1

    they were just smart enough to break away from racism and not be considered black and have white privileged and live like and be treated black

  • @gazoontight
    @gazoontight 3 місяці тому

    Keep up the great work.

  • @stevenschwartzhoff1703
    @stevenschwartzhoff1703 3 місяці тому +2

    I would wonder if "cruelty" as a grounds for divorce was a way people dealt with no-fault divorce when the both just wanted out. No need to implicate others, like infidelity, and evidence is just their word. Maybe he was an abuser, but maybe the agreed just "let us end this" too. With no court transcript, how can you tell

  • @Thomas_Oklahoma
    @Thomas_Oklahoma 3 місяці тому +4

    It's a shame that Lola felt the need to hid the Black and Native ancestry in her family. Back then Black folks were dealing with Jim Crow and the Natives were dealing with federal genocidal policies such as boarding schools era and dictating/oppressing tribal affairs.

    • @babyboy562
      @babyboy562 3 місяці тому

      Black folks are the true Indians buddy your kind migrated here from Siberia and Mongolia……please stop trying to erase us we were the ones who first me the Europeans!!!! We are Copper and you are clearly peach pink recessive no hate just stating facts!!!! ✊🏾🗿🏹💪🏾🪶🙌🏾🐢🌎 Bonampak Murals never lie!!!

  • @jenniferduhon4770
    @jenniferduhon4770 3 місяці тому +1

    The X and his mark means he couldn’t write and some one signed for him.

  • @mcclendonreport
    @mcclendonreport 3 місяці тому +1

    Regarding your “Uncle Dooley”, he might have been called “Uncle” because whyte people refused to call a Black man “Mr.” Or “Sir”. That’s a possibility for your noble historical journey that you have undertaken.

  • @kathrynsamuelson1983
    @kathrynsamuelson1983 3 місяці тому +3

    I think it would be interesting for you to do a collaboration with r=the UA-cam channel Geneavlogger.

  • @Lily_of_the_Forest
    @Lily_of_the_Forest 3 місяці тому +1

    What was your great-grandfather like? How did he treat Lola? Did he know she was more mixed than she claimed? I hope they had a peaceful marriage.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +3

      I wish I knew more about him! Everything I heard was that he was a wonderful man. He actually died quite young and she was left widowed with eight young children in New York. My aunt and uncles explained a little bit more about that in episode two of the series. It was a pretty shocking story. he must’ve known a lot about Lola, because he met her while he was working in Louisiana. I’m assuming he met her parents and all of that. I have never been able to find their marriage certificate though.

  • @CraftingInWis
    @CraftingInWis 3 місяці тому +1

    Having brick walls is so hard on your sole because we want to know the answers

  • @susannayeakel5447
    @susannayeakel5447 3 місяці тому +1

    Did you google James E. Perreault? He's on Find a Grave in Spokane, Washington.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you!! I emailed the church out there it that’s all the info that had:( I was hoping they had some more

    • @susannayeakel5447
      @susannayeakel5447 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nytn I also saw that there might be a divorce Record for James E Perrault in Spokane on Ancestry from the 1960s or 70s

  • @RR448
    @RR448 3 місяці тому +3

    Wonder if any relation to Ross perot

  • @Percept2024
    @Percept2024 3 місяці тому +3

    Danielle , I left a comment on the June 19 video responding to a commenter. I got ZERO response. Did you block my comment ? Regarding the June 20 video , could you be a distant relative of Ross Perot ??

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +1

      I replied to that! I remember that one

    • @rroadmap
      @rroadmap 3 місяці тому

      I wondered that too.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому

      Just to retype - my mom’s uncle Danny said we are kin to him. But they’re the White Perot side of the family and never came to our family reunions (his words)

  • @Marcel_Audubon
    @Marcel_Audubon 3 місяці тому +1

    don't get all discombobulated over divorce grounds of "cruelty" - they didn't have "no fault divorce" in those days and they were forced to put something as the reason, so cruelty was the generic default - if 2 people wanted to get divorced, they go their stories straight and one of them was accused of being cruel ... too cruel to stay married to.

  • @tahliah6691
    @tahliah6691 3 місяці тому +1

    Genetics are a peculiar thing…. A person could be 90% African 10% European but have more European features and then someone can be 90% European and 10% African and have very African features… over the years I have been looking into French Canadian dna and French dna it’s not easy finding French dna info at all and could never understand why when in France 🇫🇷 visiting family I’d notice alot of French were very swarthy in complexion with black hair and dark eyes and a more sallow completion…. It does depend on which part of France you come from eg on the German French border the French tend to look fairer skinned with lighter hair and blue eyes…I live in the UK and have always loved the actress Audrey Tautou… and often wondered about her ancestry …🤔 eg Edith Piaf the little sparrow was actually of Algerian 🇩🇿 extract … Amazigh to be precise… which is North African… a lot of Amazigh tribes in the north of Africa are either fair like Europeans or mixed or darker the further south you go on the continent and look very African…. Some North Africans could pass for French too and do or other European nations…. Many are not aware of the North African slave trade into the southern European countries and also as far as Southern Ireland and Cornwall in the UK gathering slaves and returned to the African continent in the 16th to the 18th century …therefore a lot of North Africans have at least 20% or more European dna and don’t know that unless they do a dna test… a lot of Hispanics in the Caribbean will also have some North African dna from that era…. so passing was also common on this side of the pond…. With the French Canadian dna results I’ve been watching for a few years now most don’t have any French dna but have Spanish which doesn’t surprise me at all I guess it was more acceptable to be of French ancestry than Spanish and also most French who have done their ancestry dna are in fact English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 but that makes sense with the history and proximity of the two countries…. A lot of British people migrated to France over the years as well as Spanish on the southern French border…. Europe talks alot about integration which means leaving one’s true identity behind and becoming a new person in a new country … eg saying someone is French doesn’t explain one’s real origin or identity or ethnicity or culture only ones nationality as perceived by society ….in Europe on official documentation Europe is divided into 4 categories for identification purposes eg Northern European eg Scandinavian British Irish Scottish danish ans France is categorised as Western European along with Germany ….southern European (tends to be the Italians Portuguese Spanish and Greeks) Eastern European (Romanians Albanians etc)…. Central Europe would be Polish Hungarian etc

  • @deanjones2525
    @deanjones2525 3 місяці тому +1

    Have you checked death notices in the newspapers of the day?

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +2

      I should look more! I know her parents had already passed but maybe I missed something

    • @deanjones2525
      @deanjones2525 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nytn School records may be able to shed some light on your search, also.

  • @Hollywood24163
    @Hollywood24163 3 місяці тому +1

    Your so nice

  • @gabriellemuileboom-mn7qp
    @gabriellemuileboom-mn7qp 2 місяці тому +1

    I do not understand this at all. Hide your family???? No way. I am from the Netherlands and my father is from Indonesia. Colonial historie. My mum is White. From the Netherlands. I married a Hongarian with a Russian grandpa. We have 2 sons. My oldest have my skin.30 minutes in the sun and it looks nice. My youngest son is as white as his dad but the older he gets alittle darker with blue eyes and blond hair.
    I love my family and I would never hide them.❤❤❤

  • @vanessareedhawaiinani
    @vanessareedhawaiinani 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Danielle

  • @gracierose3076
    @gracierose3076 2 місяці тому

    Before the no-fault divorce ruling, they had to give a reason. Almost always they put cruelty as the reason. I am doing ancestry and see this all the time. I was told this also by people who were divorced. My father-in-law who didn't have a mean bone in his body divorced. His first wife cheated on him and yet she put cruelty. Back then almost everyone knew that was a common practice. So it doesn't mean your relative was cruel.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  2 місяці тому

      Thank you for adding this!

  • @gfjchs3n1
    @gfjchs3n1 3 місяці тому +1

    Mark X does mean they cannot write.

  • @crystalfreeland1153
    @crystalfreeland1153 Місяць тому

    It says "his mark," so someone signed for him.

  • @michaelpierce3264
    @michaelpierce3264 3 місяці тому

    very sad story I don’t blame them they sacrificed everything

  • @micheledeparasis6681
    @micheledeparasis6681 2 місяці тому

    Laodicea

  • @ameliasandersjohnson3604
    @ameliasandersjohnson3604 2 місяці тому

    I had never net my mothers father. When she died he showed up at the service. he was so whit I was dumb founded

  • @justred5164
    @justred5164 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes ma’am, they’re black…

  • @breakthroughnow
    @breakthroughnow 3 місяці тому

    Just fyi... Simon would have been pronounced, "See mon' with the n silent.

  • @rhondalight70
    @rhondalight70 3 місяці тому

    His/her mark means the person could not write.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому

      Thanks! A few had that

    • @Redlurk3
      @Redlurk3 3 місяці тому

      Many timed this is found on tribal documents as well as the 'interpreters' idea of how a person's name was written/pronounced

  • @KAH-7
    @KAH-7 3 місяці тому

    I get that picture behind you. I don't know if you're aware
    that the image is analogous to your Astrological sun sign?

  • @srage9188
    @srage9188 3 місяці тому

    ❤318

  • @tommygamba170
    @tommygamba170 3 місяці тому +1

    Many women try to white wash their heritage. Men can't fake it. I have 2 sisters in the same boat.

    • @azborderlands
      @azborderlands 3 місяці тому +2

      I sort of did growing up. My white school mates were cruel.

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 3 місяці тому

      Men have passed for white as well.

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 3 місяці тому

      Men have passed for white as well.

  • @bluetinsel7099
    @bluetinsel7099 3 місяці тому +68

    A lot of older generations don’t like to talk about stuff. I’ve heard older folk say “I don’t want to talk about that old timey stuff”. Sometimes it’s like PTSD for them to relive the past that may have hurt them. If you have old journals from your grandparents or great grandparents that could be helpful as well.

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +6

      I would love to find that

    • @bluetinsel7099
      @bluetinsel7099 3 місяці тому +5

      @@nytn
      Yes, sometimes if the family house is still around they may have them tucked away in a box in a basement. They can give you an idea of the time and how things were and interactions etc. I hope that you are able to find more in your family story, it can be quite interesting.

    • @carlcunningham294
      @carlcunningham294 3 місяці тому +7

      My great great aunt mother was a mullato. She never wanted to talk about her white grandfather.

    • @tantig5923
      @tantig5923 3 місяці тому

      I like that ❤
      We will call it DNA PTSD ❤

    • @shazza160
      @shazza160 2 місяці тому

      Actually it’s simply taking the opportunity to recreate a new identity.

  • @marthaanncoles176
    @marthaanncoles176 3 місяці тому +32

    Family stories are so important!

  • @michaelrochester48
    @michaelrochester48 3 місяці тому +9

    Hi Danielle, I was looking at your Ancestry family tree from what you showed in the video and I noticed that one of your Irish ancestors is from Ballypooreen in Tipperary… just letting you know that a very famous actor and later president had ancestors from that very town and his name is Ronald Reagan

  • @JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts
    @JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts 3 місяці тому +11

    This is very interesting. I'm sure that it is frustrating when you climb into the "rabbit hole" and just as you are about to find the "carrot" you hit the "roadblock" of the family member(s) who does not want to talk about it. Fortunately, you have had a good amount of family who are willing to help you along in this journey. When I read some of the negative comments I can tell that those are the ones who do not know why you initially embarked on this journey.
    Thank you for sharing this. I hope that some of the newer subbies will watch it and get some insight into how this channel started.

  • @chakagomez8129
    @chakagomez8129 3 місяці тому +12

    when i asked my mom why her grandma looked so dark in an old photo she bristled. i asked if she was italian. she was angry and said "were german!" thats when i guessed that something was up

    • @Jenny-uv4dl
      @Jenny-uv4dl Місяць тому +2

      Basically the same happened to me I could never figure out why my supposedly German grandpa had jet black hair that it grew longer then 1/2 in he had to slick dwn to keep straight how my great grandmother never got married ( if she crossed the color line no southern white man would have married her)how 99% of ppl who have our last name are POC how my cousins have blond loose afros and tan very very easy my sister has extremely curly hair I asked my bio mom all those questions 1.were cheerokee then Italian then lastly jews when I proved the first 2 priors wrong BUT THEN my bio dad gets a disease tht 98% of ppl who get are of african descent o.k thts a fluke then I get a cancer tht 99% of ppl who get are of african descent o.k weird and my brother has a disorder tht 50% of ppl who get are Afro-American my moms who kinda racist is ANGRY she was raised in GA she never knew my dads ppl are gullah my mom used to almost curse brushing out me & my sisters hair at night😅😂

    • @msa565
      @msa565 5 днів тому

      ​@@Jenny-uv4dlsaaaad stuff

  • @isabelsierra3331
    @isabelsierra3331 3 місяці тому +25

    Got a chuckle from the Lola/Zola comment. My mom and her sister were born the same day 3 years apart. Their names were the same but flipped. My aunt was Claudina Fermina. My mom was Fermina Claudina. My grandma was either overwhelmed or had a nutty sense of humor. 😂

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +3

      this is amazing. I LOVE IT.
      ETA : Claudina. i will never get that outta my head

    • @habibahq4272
      @habibahq4272 3 місяці тому +1

      lol. I had great uncles who were twins...one named Charles John and the other John Charles...CJ and JC. their records are impossible to distinguish sometimes. Nutty parents lol!

    • @isabelsierra3331
      @isabelsierra3331 3 місяці тому

      @@habibahq4272 now that’s confusing 😂. Must have been fun and games at school.

  • @BirdDogg
    @BirdDogg 3 місяці тому +7

    Fascinating. We had a whole branch of our family re-emerge about two years ago. About 30 family members we didn’t even know existed. Evidently the family had a falling out around 1890 and that’s when the split happened. Been really cool to get to know them.

    • @msa565
      @msa565 5 днів тому

      Thats interesting

  • @roberttatarko5413
    @roberttatarko5413 3 місяці тому +12

    Don't keep that picture in your wallet. It will eventually get damaged or lost

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +7

      You are right! 😪 I’ll get a little frame

    • @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192
      @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192 3 місяці тому +5

      You always put out the most interesting videos on race relations. Also, did your great grandmother's story make you interested in American history?

    • @FCntertainr
      @FCntertainr 3 місяці тому

      He's a handsome guy

    • @JCSAXON
      @JCSAXON 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nytnYou’d probably really enjoy a personal 4”x6” photo printer if you haven’t tried one out yet. They’re fun in that you can just link up directly to your phone. Advice (just in case) for your old photos, It’s always best to allow space between your images and the glass for breathing . I’ve framed for decades & it’s terrible to see family archives adhered to the glazing! ❤

    • @nytn
      @nytn  3 місяці тому +1

      I love this idea! I have so many old photos and I don’t want them to be ruined

  • @paneofrealitychannel8204
    @paneofrealitychannel8204 3 місяці тому +6

    So your mom would not have been "hung in a tree." That just isn't accurate. The french people back in the 30s were persecuted to the extent that folks didn't like them to speak their language in public school. Both of my wife's grandparents spoke french in the home, so she now teaches our grandchildren to speak it. But LOTS of french people, referred to as Cajun, are mixtures of french, Indian, spanish, white, and black. They were looked down on by the white upper crust but to be honest, that was not a very large population. The Cajuns I know could not have cared less about what the hoity-toities thought.
    Cajun french is very much a mixed language with primarily french, but lots of spanish, a little english, and just a dash of Caribbean accent words.
    My point is that the cajun / creole french culture was the majority of the people. I would hate to think people would think that the creole and redbone people were under the kind of oppression that the gentleman on your video implied. If she was made to feel ashamed of her heritage, it was done in New York. When she said, "Im French," that was maybe the most accurate account she could give.
    SWLA has been multicultural for many generations. We live in harmony and always have.
    Sorry but I have to defend my home. Nobody ever hung anyone on a tree here in Cajun country for the color of their skin. I am pretty familiar with our history down here, and I have never heard of it happening here.
    The Pirate Jean Lafitte was a full-on genuine Pirate. He was known to visit Lake Charles and had many friends and warm relationships with everyone. I can assure you he was not a lilly white sailor. I feel like we get painted unfairly by people who have never been here or based on something they saw on tv.
    SWLA is filled with warm and unassuming people. Its been that way for hundreds of years.

    • @babyboy562
      @babyboy562 3 місяці тому +1

      Plenty of my people were lynched in that area stop lying smh the French were very racist even though at one point they too were not considered white due to the Moors occupying France……the pale ones acted no different from they pink British counterparts when it came to rave relations with Black Indigenous and Africans

  • @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192
    @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192 3 місяці тому +5

    You should do a video on the Cuban ancestry of the late singer and actor Sammy Davis, Jr.

    • @Mimi-ht6xr
      @Mimi-ht6xr 3 місяці тому

      His mama was Puerto Rican and a dancer with the Cotton Club. His father was a black entertainer as well.