I was an atheist since i was 18 year old (or maybe even earlier). However, over the years i have become an agnostic. I think atheists are as "assuming" as believers are. Atheists cannot prove that creation has happened randomly since something cannot happen out of nothing just like believers cannot explain who created the creator. Under the circumstances, the only rational view is to be agnostic. But yes i agree, Gita is one of the most profound book i have read.
@@Ali-ld6tg Who is talking of Quran? Quran is worst of all religions. Any religion which sanctions killing needs to evolve. The tragedy with Islam is that it does not permit any change.
Take a look at ‘Sadhak Sanjivani’ by Sri Ramsukhdas ji Maharaj (published by Gita Press); it’s widely regarded amongst the sadhaka-s and mahatma-s of various sampradaya-s as one of the best commentaries on Gita.
Those who are looking for a detailed commentary, please take a look at ‘Sadhak Sanjivani’ by Sri Ramsukhdas ji Maharaj (published by Gita Press in both Hindi & English); it’s widely regarded amongst the sadhaka-s and mahatma-s of various sampradaya-s as one of the best commentaries on Gita.
@@aniketkandge2740 lol it's not about being great. Generally in Mumbai or we can say Maharashtra, people refer to each other (of similar or less age) as tu. This generally doesn't happen in Delhi or UP.
Hi, my name is Saroj Kumar Soren, I'm just 24 now I studied at Ramakrishna Mission, I studied Bhagavad Geeta of Ramakrishna mission, I studied Bhagavad Geeta of Iskcon, and also I'm reading now Geeta press Bhagavad Geeta... and every Geeta is worked for me, first I only believed in Karma, now in my life Bhakti also came .. and it's good
Dude you studied from Ramkrishna Mission that's why you are open to read other viewpoints If you were in ISKCON then things would have been completely different
When it comes to Rig Veda, no one can understand it without reading commentaries because the knowledge is extremely metaphoric and hidden. It prima facie looks like just normal hymns but Sayanacharya's commentary was mind blowing. A normal hymn was turned into explanation of how water cycle worked and rain happened. There is a whole hymn on antidote of poison and which bird was used to remove poison from scorpian or snake bite. Also Swarg word is not in Rig Veda, its Divah Loka, so probably there was a concept of home of devas but not heaven.
@@varunkhugshal9049 The book is English translation of Rig Veda by H.H. Wilson with commentary of Sayanacharya. If you wanna read Rig Veda , don't read it without commentary explaining every hymn. Otherwise it would be useless as it would look like you are reading Rishis asking for things from Gods but it's not. Every hymn has a hidden and a very deep meaning. Agastya Maitravaruni properly explains antidote of poison but when you will read it looks like he is rebuking a mongoose. Only after reading commentary I understood what he actually meant. That's why Vedas couldn't be read without a Guru.
@@varunkhugshal9049 one super fun fact is that Rig Veda's first hymn is of Madhuchenda Vaishwamitra who in Valmiki Ramayana is called eldest son of Vishwamitra Gadhi (Menaka's husband and composer of Gayathri Mantra). Gayatri Mantra is the last hymn he composed. Vishwamitra cursed his sons including Madhuchenda for them not supporting his decision to sacrifice themselves in place of Sunahshepa. Vishwamitra is the one who tried to stop human sacrifice and saved life of Sunahshepa Ajigartha and adopted him and gave him the name Devarata Vaishwamitra.
Bhai hamare Brahman Rishi Muni ko ved ka gyan nahi tha sab galat translation kar ka chle gaye eak baar sant Rampal ji Maharaj ji ka vedo wala video dekh lo samajh jaoge
1:12:27 those conversations and debates Yudhishthir had in Mahabharata are very enlightening also the conversation between devi Uma ji and Maheshwara ji in Mahabharata deals with this topic in great detail
Nice discussion between an atheist and an out and out Krishna bhakta who concludes by reciting the shloka: " मुकं करोति वाचालं पंगुं लंघयते गिरिं, यत्कृपा तमहं वन्दे परमानन्द माधवम्".🙏🙏
Ami- "Allow Krishna to talk to you.." So beautifully put- He is always willing to talk to us, only if we realise that could we attain the path to moksha.
Ami has the right approach and her insight that Bhagwat Gita is personal depends on the person's personality, stage in life, age etc is very true. It depends on what one is seeking. Gita is a so valuable because it has the ability to reach every human who seeks to answer: How do I make the right decisions to live my life in the best possible way, and be at peace with myself. Conflicts arise for everyone internal as well as external but being able to resolve these in a just /dharma upholding manner is what Gita reveals. You can be an atheist or agnostic or monotheist or what ever label of your choice, lessons in the Gita are universal and not time bound!
One of the best commentaries on Geeta is bhavarth Deepika or dnyaneshwari as it is famously known, narrated by 13 century maharashtrian saint Dnyaneshwar. In his commentary he gives day to day examples from our life (although from his times but most of which are observable even today). To read it in its original form is a literary and philosophical delight and it has become a major part of Maharashtrian social, spiritual and cultural life.
Kushal, this is the best podcast. I see your connect, when you do with someone online, you become statue. It looks like you are not connected and you let the person go on.
There is an interesting sculpture on one of the walls of the shiv temple at Toke village (Pravara sangam) in Mharashtra. The sculpture depicts five pandavas which you can identify with their physique and other attributes. Interestingly among them, only yudhisthira wears holy thread (yadnyopavit) which has been interpreted as an attempt of the artist to show he only was the one among five who did know the dharma well. This temple was probably built during the Yadav dynasty and was renovated around the mid 18th century by Marathas.
Just like almost everyone , i too have Been in hundreds of tough situation through my Life, and Been a believer in Shri Krishna since childhood, Yet No Sign of Krishna's Involvement in any form even Remotely . But keep on believing what you believe, bcoz we dont care about the Truth , although Krishna keeps the TRUTH as the most Sacred.
गीता के सात सौ श्लोकों को मैं पिछले 21 साल से चौबीस घंटे साथ में रखता हूँ उसके बाद भी अभी बहुत सारा हिस्सा ऐसा है जिसके दर्शन होना बाक़ी है ॥ सत् असत् को लेकर लोग बहुत सर्कस करते हैं मालूम पड़ता है कि ये मुट्ठी में रेत इकट्ठा कर रहे हैं
Good podcast bro. The only word that kept bugging was the expression "Hindu" as a "religion". My limited knowledge tells me that this word Hindu was associated with the physical location of the people who lived with this philosophy. Moreover, if I'm not wrong, it's actually the "Sanatana Dharma" which was followed, again, that's a philosophy of way of living or understanding the universe "Nirguna Brahamana" & "Saguna Brahamana" and so on, of which Bhagwat Gita is one of the scriptures. So, in this whole concept, where does "religion" come 🤔 Sorry, if it sounds a lame question because according to me, Hinduism is not a religion, a way of life. Is that wrong?
If u comperision in recent era how the geeta fit 100% suitable for humanity. Like how to respect ladies, how to learn diplomacy, how to respect your karma and many more.
Ekam Sat Vipra Bahudha Vadanti - the same truth is spoken in various ways by learned men. I won’t debate so much on different versions or translations of our scriptures. It all is trying to point at one truth. We can learn all the texts and start parroting wise sayings but only when we have self realization, we can know. I don’t know yet…
Kushal, try to bring Dushyanth Sridhar on for your some of your podcasts on Sanatana Dharma. I think your viewers, myself included, would stand to benefit.
Bhagawat Gita has both Sakara (Vaishnava) and Nirakar ( Shaivite) concept. Iskcon teaches both but follows Sakara concept. Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.11 says "Param Sayta" has three manifestations-- Brahm, Bhagawan, Paramatma. Without a bonafide Guru, Guru deeksha you can't understand much. Without following Yama (no meat eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex, no gambling) and Without following niyama (scriptural study, Guru deeksha (association of devotees), deity worship, Hari nama japa ) --- progress is difficult. Many worldly scholars don't follow this yama and niyama-- hence understanding this divine concept is difficult.
Is this meant for only those who are in India or those who understand Hindi? How can we, those abroad who can’t understand Hindi benefit from this enriching discussion?
One of the major takeaways I find is that there is no one way to 'know' the truth (brahma). A 'drop' in the ocean cannot know everything about the ocean in which it exists. Similarly, every drop in the ocean only has a partial knowledge of the ocean, potentially in a different light. Think of the truth as a statue in the middle, surrounded by artists painting it from all directions. Everyone believes he has captured the statue in his art, but they are all different from one another and even when combined together the statue is something more than the sum of all the arts.
The commentary of Bhagwat Gita by K N UPADHYAY must also be read. It is a precise, to the point commentary of the shalokas giving detailed analysis only when it is necessary and it is the most spiritually inclined commentary of the dialogue between Lord Krishan and Arjuna.
I think only circumstances or incidents that happen to you are predetermined. How we choose to react to that, what we decide to do about it is free will, completely in our control.
Modern minds mostly have Protestant bias where they try to shun away from commentaries and interpretation. We don’t like to have intermediataries. We believe we somehow have the capabilities to directly reach our Ishtha deva or moksha. At the end of the day we will have to be admit ourselves that far greater and more intelligent people have pondered over Geeta. Thus following traditional sampraday and their commentaries is more appropriate way to understand Geeta.
Yes exactly that is the beauty of dharmik thought. Multiple interpretations and mutual respect. While the Abrahamic approach of one book, one trues god etc stifles the freedom 😊🙏
Ah yes I see, personally I also don’t agree with that. But given the general sincerity to follow a traditional approach I guess it is fine given amount of external threats to sanatana dharma. Most insidious type of interpretation are actually done by the likes of Devdutt Patnaik and other vested groups which will erode the society from within.
The book un his hand is Bhagwat Gita by Swami Chidbhawananda of Ramkrishna Mission. Published by Ramkrishna Tapovanam Now, Adwaita Ashram too publish it.
if any marathi here and want to read bhagavad gita, go for dyaneshwari , it is bhagavad gita only but in marathi , and as you must know he is treated as krishnavatar , also dyaneshwar mauli has focused more on "gyan" then karma and bhakti 🙏
You interpret any Dharmik Text according to your own state of mind. As your state of mind changes, your interpretation too changes. I am glad that all interpretations are different because those are written by different people with different mindset. Q book or B book have no such freedom.
BGeeta is Pravrutti vaad of BGTILAK Geeta Rahasya but most were taught Nivrutti Vaad ..jo bhi huaa accha...BG is a dictionary to fathom find answers when body mind intellect or soul is being tested ...in which state one is in...Which of 3gunas is predominant when Q arises...Saguna to Nirgun ..to beyond one clay in all toys Shankar Abhyankar Pune Geeta Sagar gives most detailed exposition
One problem. Since there is no concept of a "god" or "theos" (it is dyaus misinterpreted) in Hindu traditions, why have a discussion around the binary of theism-atheism? Darsana are perspectives on the nature of reality, one doesnt belong to one or the other, you merely take inspiration from them to guide your quest. Guna in 9.13 is "propensity", the sum total of the qualities with which we are born, the ones we acquire, and the qualifications, knowledge and experience we gain thru life. It is an evolving predisposition. And in 9.32, it is striyo-vaishya a street-walker, not women and merchants; shudra are those who are not scholars of any tradition, hence ignorant of the nature of divinity, though their talent and dedication leads them there (bhakti). Varna, after all, is the way we are wired to seek divine perfection.
Also, purpose of Geeta is not self improvement, its not an self-help book, its a guide to way of life for the people, who are on spiritual path. People are free to say anything but Geeta was, is and will remain a spiritual book, you can not bring it to the level of self-help type of book.
These people are confused about sthitpragnata as well. Bhagwan says that stjitpragnata is a symptom of a gnaani. Whose those actions are 'expectation-less" and who does not feel any negative/positive emotions regardless of outcome of their actions are Sthitpragna. It does not mean 'khush' aur 'Santusht' Best way to understand Geeta is to try and translate the exact saunskrut shloks without adding anything else.
Both Monier and Williams give content and contented as English equivalents of स्थितप्रज्ञ. So from that point of view, simplifying स्थितप्रज्ञ to संतुष्ट is not wrong. Besides, if you are स्थितप्रज्ञ, you are automatically content as you have already gotten rid of everything that can make someone unhappy. Remeber that according to "Hindu" philosophy default emotional state of human beings is आनंद. And then we fall from that state due to our attachments. On the other hand, if you object to simplifying स्थितप्रज्ञ to संतुष्ट it would imply that ज्ञानी individuals are असंतुष्ट. Then why would anyone want to be a ज्ञानी to begin with.
I understand where you are coming from but most of these so-called gurus have hurt our scriptures tremendously. Geeta is primarily a warriors book. It is not for the modern bhakti margis who portray Geeta as some supreme aadhyatmik book. Geeta makes you brave, not cowardly.
Even about asto Ma satgamaya.. actually means asatya nhi(Ma) satya ki aor gaman karo.. but its translated in the wrong way @amiganatra .. due to wrong translations meaning differs.. this sootra is to evolve an indiviually without any mediator(not even god)
Please bring Rajarsi Nandi to your show . He is a senior Tantra upasaka and knows many of the scriptures including Bhagavad Gita. He is also an astrologer. And also please avoid ISKON's GITA AS IS. ISKON's GITA AS IT IS is most adulterated and misinterpreted version of Gita . Read AdiShankaracharya Gita Bhashyam .
I feel before you get into the great scripture like our Bhagwad Geeta,we should follow as advised by Adi.Start with VISHNU SAHASRANAMA ,IT WILL GIVE ONE INITIATION ON THE PATH. THEN COMES ATMA BODH, ETC. ANYBODY WHO CONSIDER HIMSELF AN ATHEIST IS LIVING ALSO IN ILLUSION.
Arjuna becmé clue less during akadhasadyaya in a verse he can't Àble to hold it, and say "Natyàm na màdhyam ñà: punastaya Vadim paysa Mi visweswàrà viswa Rupam "~~~ Arjun in à of confused state of mind
Aim of Bhagawat gita is " brahm gigyasa "-- ie going back to Vaikuntha/brahm jyoti. Ask the saints (self realised soul.) If you can't answer ( till you are enabled) without a Guru-- you can neverunderstand. There is no difference of opinion its Nirakar vs Sakara. Thats all.
Very good pod cast. I heard it threw my ritualistic part of Pooja. Sanatan theism and middle eastern theism are as different as cheese and a chalk. Sanatan theism is extremly vast ,evolved, logical, yet it's is ment to be like a mile stone or science or Google and Google map and whole travel ecosystem put together,,in mordern context. You are a traveler in charge of every thing, Google helps u decide where, how, at what speed, by what route, and schedule, and at what cost you travel. Each of these aspects are the result of your choices. What ever sanatan Dharma teaches you is debatable, questioning is encouraged,in fact the dialogue in our scriptures are extremely brutal to a fixated mind. You evolve and absorb higher and higher aspects. Proselytizing is frowned upon. Middle eastern theism ( as we know it today) is regid set of does and don't based on some strict some questionable historicity and you are aspected to fall in line or else. Logic, open dialogue are strict taboos. Blind beliefs and compliance are only options . Force fraud and inducement are primary means of proselytizing.
I am strict Atheist. I 💕 Krishna and a teacher and Guide.
I expect nothing in return, except peace of Mind.
😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂
Bhagvad Gita 10.34 - 'Among women I am fame, fortune, fine speech, memory, intelligence, steadfastness and patience.'
Sabdo m omkar
Rudro m shiv
Sashtrdhariyon m ram hu ❤❤
Jai siyaram 🙏 Jai shree krishna
I was an atheist since i was 18 year old (or maybe even earlier). However, over the years i have become an agnostic. I think atheists are as "assuming" as believers are. Atheists cannot prove that creation has happened randomly since something cannot happen out of nothing just like believers cannot explain who created the creator. Under the circumstances, the only rational view is to be agnostic. But yes i agree, Gita is one of the most profound book i have read.
Tysm 😊
Quran zyada based hai
@@Ali-ld6tg Who is talking of Quran? Quran is worst of all religions. Any religion which sanctions killing needs to evolve. The tragedy with Islam is that it does not permit any change.
@@Ali-ld6tgBhai apna Quran Leke Yahan se jao aur kahin.
@@kiranvas09😂😂😂
Came across gita by bibek debroy, probably the best translation out there without any sorts of interpretation.
Take a look at ‘Sadhak Sanjivani’ by Sri Ramsukhdas ji Maharaj (published by Gita Press); it’s widely regarded amongst the sadhaka-s and mahatma-s of various sampradaya-s as one of the best commentaries on Gita.
thanks for the information i was about to ask someone opinion about it. Will procure and read.
I agreed 💯
@@neelabh06is it available in English?
@@Xaviers101 Yes, it is available in English.
Those who are looking for a detailed commentary, please take a look at ‘Sadhak Sanjivani’ by Sri Ramsukhdas ji Maharaj (published by Gita Press in both Hindi & English); it’s widely regarded amongst the sadhaka-s and mahatma-s of various sampradaya-s as one of the best commentaries on Gita.
The fact that Amiji addresses Kushal as Tu Tereko makes people believe there are two friends having a genuine friendly conversation 🙂🙂
They must be mumbaikars
@@Raut-warrior as all great people are Mumbaikars 🫡🫡
@@aniketkandge2740 lol it's not about being great. Generally in Mumbai or we can say Maharashtra, people refer to each other (of similar or less age) as tu. This generally doesn't happen in Delhi or UP.
He mentions at the start they've been friends for more than the past twelve years now
She's from Ahmedabad
Hi, my name is Saroj Kumar Soren, I'm just 24 now
I studied at Ramakrishna Mission, I studied Bhagavad Geeta of Ramakrishna mission, I studied Bhagavad Geeta of Iskcon, and also I'm reading now Geeta press Bhagavad Geeta... and every Geeta is worked for me, first I only believed in Karma, now in my life Bhakti also came .. and it's good
Dude you studied from Ramkrishna Mission that's why you are open to read other viewpoints
If you were in ISKCON then things would have been completely different
@@sumitdutta7043 yea
@@sumitdutta7043exactly
The discussion on free will is so cool. I am reading right now “Freedom Evolves” by Daniel Dennett, and there are so many common themes.
Bhagwat Geeta is WONDERFUL 👌
"The Bhagavad Gita Comes Alive, by Jeffrey Armstrong, is the most accurate English translation that is the closest to Sanskrit.
When it comes to Rig Veda, no one can understand it without reading commentaries because the knowledge is extremely metaphoric and hidden. It prima facie looks like just normal hymns but Sayanacharya's commentary was mind blowing. A normal hymn was turned into explanation of how water cycle worked and rain happened. There is a whole hymn on antidote of poison and which bird was used to remove poison from scorpian or snake bite. Also Swarg word is not in Rig Veda, its Divah Loka, so probably there was a concept of home of devas but not heaven.
Can you please give me the complete name of the book or link to the resource.
@@varunkhugshal9049 The book is English translation of Rig Veda by H.H. Wilson with commentary of Sayanacharya. If you wanna read Rig Veda , don't read it without commentary explaining every hymn. Otherwise it would be useless as it would look like you are reading Rishis asking for things from Gods but it's not. Every hymn has a hidden and a very deep meaning. Agastya Maitravaruni properly explains antidote of poison but when you will read it looks like he is rebuking a mongoose. Only after reading commentary I understood what he actually meant. That's why Vedas couldn't be read without a Guru.
@@varunkhugshal9049 one super fun fact is that Rig Veda's first hymn is of Madhuchenda Vaishwamitra who in Valmiki Ramayana is called eldest son of Vishwamitra Gadhi (Menaka's husband and composer of Gayathri Mantra). Gayatri Mantra is the last hymn he composed. Vishwamitra cursed his sons including Madhuchenda for them not supporting his decision to sacrifice themselves in place of Sunahshepa. Vishwamitra is the one who tried to stop human sacrifice and saved life of Sunahshepa Ajigartha and adopted him and gave him the name Devarata Vaishwamitra.
@@BhagyalaxmiKumari-vb4ub thankyou very much, though it doesn't seem to be on Amazon
Bhai hamare Brahman Rishi Muni ko ved ka gyan nahi tha sab galat translation kar ka chle gaye eak baar sant Rampal ji Maharaj ji ka vedo wala video dekh lo samajh jaoge
1:12:27 those conversations and debates Yudhishthir had in Mahabharata are very enlightening also the conversation between devi Uma ji and Maheshwara ji in Mahabharata deals with this topic in great detail
There is one online Gita series by Swami Sarvapriyananda as Ami ji mentioned is going on in audio only mode.
Its really a good one.
swami sarvapriyanda is fantastic
Swami Sarvapriyananda ji looks like he is enlightened
Nice discussion between an atheist and an out and out Krishna bhakta who concludes by reciting the shloka: " मुकं करोति वाचालं पंगुं लंघयते गिरिं, यत्कृपा तमहं वन्दे परमानन्द माधवम्".🙏🙏
Her discussions on various ancient text really helped me, especially the revelation that karna was vile man
Ami- "Allow Krishna to talk to you.." So beautifully put- He is always willing to talk to us, only if we realise that could we attain the path to moksha.
Ami has the right approach and her insight that Bhagwat Gita is personal depends on the person's personality, stage in life, age etc is very true. It depends on what one is seeking. Gita is a so valuable because it has the ability to reach every human who seeks to answer: How do I make the right decisions to live my life in the best possible way, and be at peace with myself. Conflicts arise for everyone internal as well as external but being able to resolve these in a just /dharma upholding manner is what Gita reveals. You can be an atheist or agnostic or monotheist or what ever label of your choice, lessons in the Gita are universal and not time bound!
Dammm Kushal you are old and here I was always connecting to you as a friend through your podcasts.
I learnt something New.
धन्यवाद 🙏
Excellent discussion Kushal n Ami ji.. enlightening
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Jai Shree Krishna 🙏🙏🙏
Great discussion. I also love geeta supersite!!!!
🕉🙏Bhagwad Gita explained by Swami Ram Swarup Ji Yogacharya.🕉🙏
One of the best commentaries on Geeta is bhavarth Deepika or dnyaneshwari as it is famously known, narrated by 13 century maharashtrian saint Dnyaneshwar. In his commentary he gives day to day examples from our life (although from his times but most of which are observable even today). To read it in its original form is a literary and philosophical delight and it has become a major part of Maharashtrian social, spiritual and cultural life.
Kushal, this is the best podcast. I see your connect, when you do with someone online, you become statue. It looks like you are not connected and you let the person go on.
There is an interesting sculpture on one of the walls of the shiv temple at Toke village (Pravara sangam) in Mharashtra. The sculpture depicts five pandavas which you can identify with their physique and other attributes. Interestingly among them, only yudhisthira wears holy thread (yadnyopavit) which has been interpreted as an attempt of the artist to show he only was the one among five who did know the dharma well. This temple was probably built during the Yadav dynasty and was renovated around the mid 18th century by Marathas.
Amazing conversation
I like your commentary on Geeta
He didn't write any commentary
He suggested a commentry
Bhagwat Gita by Swami Chidbhawananda of Ramkrishna Tapovanam
Sir pls listen to osho's interpretation of bhagwat Geeta. That's beautiful.
I would also like to recommend Krishna smruti by him .
Hari om tat sat 🙏🙏🙏
Bhai osho 4 lines explain kia hai
Pahle jano geeta bola kisne hai.
Beautiful podcast ❤
Just like almost everyone , i too have Been in hundreds of tough situation through my Life, and Been a believer in Shri Krishna since childhood,
Yet No Sign of Krishna's Involvement in any form even Remotely .
But keep on believing what you believe, bcoz we dont care about the Truth , although Krishna keeps the TRUTH as the most Sacred.
गीता के सात सौ श्लोकों को मैं पिछले 21 साल से चौबीस घंटे साथ में रखता हूँ उसके बाद भी अभी बहुत सारा हिस्सा ऐसा है जिसके दर्शन होना बाक़ी है ॥
सत् असत् को लेकर लोग बहुत सर्कस करते हैं मालूम पड़ता है कि ये मुट्ठी में रेत इकट्ठा कर रहे हैं
Thanks for this great podcast 🙏🏻
Good podcast bro. The only word that kept bugging was the expression "Hindu" as a "religion". My limited knowledge tells me that this word Hindu was associated with the physical location of the people who lived with this philosophy. Moreover, if I'm not wrong, it's actually the "Sanatana Dharma" which was followed, again, that's a philosophy of way of living or understanding the universe "Nirguna Brahamana" & "Saguna Brahamana" and so on, of which Bhagwat Gita is one of the scriptures.
So, in this whole concept, where does "religion" come 🤔
Sorry, if it sounds a lame question because according to me, Hinduism is not a religion, a way of life.
Is that wrong?
A whole session on varna jaati system need, jaati is always there in society, atrocities must be discussed
If u comperision in recent era how the geeta fit 100% suitable for humanity. Like how to respect ladies, how to learn diplomacy, how to respect your karma and many more.
Amy ji ...thanks for all that explanation ...
Ekam Sat Vipra Bahudha Vadanti - the same truth is spoken in various ways by learned men.
I won’t debate so much on different versions or translations of our scriptures. It all is trying to point at one truth. We can learn all the texts and start parroting wise sayings but only when we have self realization, we can know. I don’t know yet…
Kushal, try to bring Dushyanth Sridhar on for your some of your podcasts on Sanatana Dharma. I think your viewers, myself included, would stand to benefit.
Bhagawat Gita has both Sakara (Vaishnava) and Nirakar ( Shaivite) concept. Iskcon teaches both but follows Sakara concept. Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.11 says "Param Sayta" has three manifestations-- Brahm, Bhagawan, Paramatma. Without a bonafide Guru, Guru deeksha you can't understand much. Without following Yama (no meat eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex, no gambling) and Without following niyama (scriptural study, Guru deeksha (association of devotees), deity worship, Hari nama japa ) --- progress is difficult. Many worldly scholars don't follow this yama and niyama-- hence understanding this divine concept is difficult.
Isme difficult kya h
Energy sakar bhi h nirakar bhi 😊kha feel ho vo shakti samarpan kardo 😊
Writing commentaries has been our tradition....there are many commentaries written in past such as madhav bhashya,shankara bhashya...etc
Geeta press wali geeta ji best h ❤❤❤
Its all about cosmic energy 😊😊not upper Wala
One of your bests!
Very interesting and inspiring discussion. 👌
In a pub sipping bear
Listening to music
And i am happy
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Can there be one more Podcast on 'Shreemad Bhagavad Geeta Rahasya' by Shree Lokmanya Bal Gangadhar Tilak? 🙏🙏
Is this meant for only those who are in India or those who understand Hindi? How can we, those abroad who can’t understand Hindi benefit from this enriching discussion?
One of the major takeaways I find is that there is no one way to 'know' the truth (brahma). A 'drop' in the ocean cannot know everything about the ocean in which it exists. Similarly, every drop in the ocean only has a partial knowledge of the ocean, potentially in a different light. Think of the truth as a statue in the middle, surrounded by artists painting it from all directions. Everyone believes he has captured the statue in his art, but they are all different from one another and even when combined together the statue is something more than the sum of all the arts.
Nice, please have more on veda's, gitas, our manuscripts... etc.....
The commentary of Bhagwat Gita by K N UPADHYAY must also be read. It is a precise, to the point commentary of the shalokas giving detailed analysis only when it is necessary and it is the most spiritually inclined commentary of the dialogue between Lord Krishan and Arjuna.
I think only circumstances or incidents that happen to you are predetermined. How we choose to react to that, what we decide to do about it is free will, completely in our control.
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Usme to walmiki ramayan me to sita swayamvar likha gya hai
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The fifth facotr is categorised as The area of concern.
The first four are The area of impact
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I wish it had subtitles. I do not understand Hindi
Modern minds mostly have Protestant bias where they try to shun away from commentaries and interpretation. We don’t like to have intermediataries. We believe we somehow have the capabilities to directly reach our Ishtha deva or moksha.
At the end of the day we will have to be admit ourselves that far greater and more intelligent people have pondered over Geeta. Thus following traditional sampraday and their commentaries is more appropriate way to understand Geeta.
Different traditions have different interpretations 😅
Yes exactly that is the beauty of dharmik thought. Multiple interpretations and mutual respect. While the Abrahamic approach of one book, one trues god etc stifles the freedom 😊🙏
Its beauty, but again some translations make the claim that there translation is only the truth one and apart from Krishna rest are the demi-gods
Ah yes I see, personally I also don’t agree with that. But given the general sincerity to follow a traditional approach I guess it is fine given amount of external threats to sanatana dharma.
Most insidious type of interpretation are actually done by the likes of Devdutt Patnaik and other vested groups which will erode the society from within.
Which Gita kushal was talking about??
The book un his hand is
Bhagwat Gita by Swami Chidbhawananda of Ramkrishna Mission.
Published by Ramkrishna Tapovanam
Now, Adwaita Ashram too publish it.
Wonderful! Pl stuck to English for the sake of southies like us🙏🏽🙏🏽
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Tim southie?
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No. Learn Hindi or STFU
Are there any wild dogs? Mostly they are feral or stray.
Swami sarvpriyanand is very intelligent. Listen his talks
Great Podcast 👍
if any marathi here and want to read bhagavad gita, go for dyaneshwari , it is bhagavad gita only but in marathi , and as you must know he is treated as krishnavatar , also dyaneshwar mauli has focused more on "gyan" then karma and bhakti 🙏
Dyaneshwari is perfect
It is also available in hindi
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You interpret any Dharmik Text according to your own state of mind. As your state of mind changes, your interpretation too changes. I am glad that all interpretations are different because those are written by different people with different mindset. Q book or B book have no such freedom.
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The result of any karma depends on 3 factors Adibhautika Adhyatmik and Adidevik
Acharya Prashant outrighly rejects ISKON's version of Gita
Which translation or commentry of bhagwat gita is kushal holding in his hand at 7:35
Bhagwat Gita by Swami Chidbhawananda of Ramkrishna Mission
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Agar koi kahe ki 'Sirf kaam karo pur salary pe tumhara adhikaar nahi hai' ....
First question, why translation has to be read!
BGeeta is Pravrutti vaad of BGTILAK Geeta Rahasya but most were taught Nivrutti Vaad ..jo bhi huaa accha...BG is a dictionary to fathom find answers when body mind intellect or soul is being tested ...in which state one is in...Which of 3gunas is predominant when Q arises...Saguna to Nirgun ..to beyond one clay in all toys
Shankar Abhyankar Pune Geeta Sagar gives most detailed exposition
I dont where Krishna has asked to do Abhyas of Naam, Jap and Keertan, at least not in Geeta.
But it is in other shastras in kaliyug only jap and keertan is sufficient for moksha
One problem. Since there is no concept of a "god" or "theos" (it is dyaus misinterpreted) in Hindu traditions, why have a discussion around the binary of theism-atheism? Darsana are perspectives on the nature of reality, one doesnt belong to one or the other, you merely take inspiration from them to guide your quest. Guna in 9.13 is "propensity", the sum total of the qualities with which we are born, the ones we acquire, and the qualifications, knowledge and experience we gain thru life. It is an evolving predisposition. And in 9.32, it is striyo-vaishya a street-walker, not women and merchants; shudra are those who are not scholars of any tradition, hence ignorant of the nature of divinity, though their talent and dedication leads them there (bhakti). Varna, after all, is the way we are wired to seek divine perfection.
Also, purpose of Geeta is not self improvement, its not an self-help book, its a guide to way of life for the people, who are on spiritual path. People are free to say anything but Geeta was, is and will remain a spiritual book, you can not bring it to the level of self-help type of book.
These people are confused about sthitpragnata as well. Bhagwan says that stjitpragnata is a symptom of a gnaani. Whose those actions are 'expectation-less" and who does not feel any negative/positive emotions regardless of outcome of their actions are Sthitpragna. It does not mean 'khush' aur 'Santusht'
Best way to understand Geeta is to try and translate the exact saunskrut shloks without adding anything else.
Yep, stithpragya means being stoic in victory or a defeat and just to do your duty ( dharma/kartavya) without expecting anything.
Both Monier and Williams give content and contented as English equivalents of स्थितप्रज्ञ. So from that point of view, simplifying स्थितप्रज्ञ to संतुष्ट is not wrong. Besides, if you are स्थितप्रज्ञ, you are automatically content as you have already gotten rid of everything that can make someone unhappy. Remeber that according to "Hindu" philosophy default emotional state of human beings is आनंद. And then we fall from that state due to our attachments.
On the other hand, if you object to simplifying स्थितप्रज्ञ to संतुष्ट it would imply that ज्ञानी individuals are असंतुष्ट. Then why would anyone want to be a ज्ञानी to begin with.
Kushalbuddin spreads ignorance what else to expect.
I see the title
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Vanilla !!
8:00 Those are called Gurus Kushal watch your words
I understand where you are coming from but most of these so-called gurus have hurt our scriptures tremendously. Geeta is primarily a warriors book. It is not for the modern bhakti margis who portray Geeta as some supreme aadhyatmik book. Geeta makes you brave, not cowardly.
Even about asto Ma satgamaya.. actually means asatya nhi(Ma) satya ki aor gaman karo.. but its translated in the wrong way @amiganatra .. due to wrong translations meaning differs.. this sootra is to evolve an indiviually without any mediator(not even god)
yogananda paramhamsa.. is also a different approch
Please bring Rajarsi Nandi to your show . He is a senior Tantra upasaka and knows many of the scriptures including Bhagavad Gita. He is also an astrologer. And also please avoid ISKON's GITA AS IS. ISKON's GITA AS IT IS is most adulterated and misinterpreted version of Gita . Read AdiShankaracharya Gita Bhashyam .
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To understand SMBG you need Shradha and Guru. Self study is not the optimal way. Guru must have evolved from a guru parampara
Geeta is a deep ocean which has opened different dimensions of my thinking! Psychological masterpiece!!
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I feel before you get into the great scripture like our Bhagwad Geeta,we should follow as advised by Adi.Start with VISHNU SAHASRANAMA ,IT WILL GIVE ONE INITIATION ON THE PATH. THEN COMES ATMA BODH, ETC. ANYBODY WHO CONSIDER HIMSELF AN ATHEIST IS LIVING ALSO IN ILLUSION.
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Arjuna becmé clue less during akadhasadyaya in a verse he can't
Àble to hold it, and say
"Natyàm na màdhyam ñà: punastaya Vadim paysa Mi visweswàrà viswa Rupam "~~~
Arjun in à of confused state of mind
Hinduism is Pantheistic.
Not Polytheistic.
For me being a Hindu MEANS being a "Buffay Eater"
Mere liye problem wo log hain jo mujhe saari life sirf ek item khilana chahte hain
Commentary will be different..it is there in all deciplines. One way is not hindu way, that is why it is more scientific.
Aim of Bhagawat gita is " brahm gigyasa "-- ie going back to Vaikuntha/brahm jyoti. Ask the saints (self realised soul.) If you can't answer ( till you are enabled) without a Guru-- you can neverunderstand. There is no difference of opinion its Nirakar vs Sakara. Thats all.
Invite chaintanya charan das for Gita
bro traded mic quality for content
😂charwaka h par geeta ji khas h
Or om ka statue 😅
Koi naa i m jain but geeta and ramcharit Manas is my fav spritual books😊😊
Tye only thing I know is Karma and I try to follow it.
Very good pod cast. I heard it threw my ritualistic part of Pooja.
Sanatan theism and middle eastern theism are as different as cheese and a chalk. Sanatan theism is extremly vast ,evolved, logical, yet it's is ment to be like a mile stone or science or Google and Google map and whole travel ecosystem put together,,in mordern context. You are a traveler in charge of every thing, Google helps u decide where, how, at what speed, by what route, and schedule, and at what cost you travel. Each of these aspects are the result of your choices. What ever sanatan Dharma teaches you is debatable, questioning is encouraged,in fact the dialogue in our scriptures are extremely brutal to a fixated mind. You evolve and absorb higher and higher aspects. Proselytizing is frowned upon.
Middle eastern theism ( as we know it today) is regid set of does and don't based on some strict some questionable historicity and you are aspected to fall in line or else. Logic, open dialogue are strict taboos. Blind beliefs and compliance are only options . Force fraud and inducement are primary means of proselytizing.