Rolling Stones | The Stones Feature Film that Never Was
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2021
- After the success of the Beatles' feature films "A Hard Day's Night" and "Help", manager Andrew Oldham announced that the Stones were planning to start shooting their own feature film. First it was supposed to be a film called "Back, Behind and In Front". Then it was "Only Lovers Left Alive", based on Dave Wallis' book of the same name. In the end, the project never got off the ground. This is the story of the Rolling Stones' feature film that never was.
Hope you like it!
These Yesterday's Papers videos are surprisingly very good. Lots of unseen film footage of The Rolling Stones when they were at their peek powers as a young group. Also lots of this information I'm unfamiliar with. Too many times one see's the same old information over and over again.
That's absolutely brilliant, you can enjoy the "A Clockwork Orange" movie and at the same time imagine the Stones in the role of the gang.. Also Malcolm McDowell does resemble Mick Jagger..
Great content (photos, videos, articles). Everything is very well researched. Loved seeing a glimpse of Brian's home in that drawing. Found the original Altham article on Rock's Back Pages but only the text. This channel is the best source for blasts from the past!
Thanks.
@@YesterdaysPapers You're doing great work and the love shines through. So different from the usual hack documentaries which holds no interest to me at all. Keep it up - I'll be watching!
Charlie wants a silent movie. Perfect
A would have made a good Buster Keyton.
Good one 👍👍😂😂
What's odd is that when Kubrick cast the parts in Clockwork Orange the droogs did sort of resemble the Stones. Malcolm McDowell looked a little bit like Mick, one of the others looked like Keith, and Warren Clarke, who played Dim, was a dead ringer for Brian.
It was Warren Clarke who played Dim in Clockwork Orange. You're thinking of Michael Clarke, the drummer from The Byrds, who was hired because of his resemblance to Brian Jones
@@southsider3542 yeah, you're right. Both of the Clarkes resembled Brian. Thanks for the info.
2013's Only Lovers Left Alive is a very cool movie. And Tom Hiddleston is a big Stones fan, he's said he's pictured his Marvel character Loki as a DJ in the 70s playing Sympathy for the Devil. ;D
Thank you for sharing 💕 legendary rolling stones ❣️
Excellent vid!
I read that CLOCKWORK ORANGE almost was made with Ken Russell directing the Stones!
Wow!
Another great video with footage I'm sure most of us have never seen. I always look forward to watching them! Keep up the great work, my friend. Your approach to this beautiful time in history is so tender. A time that obviously won't ever be repeated but I sometimes feel as if I'm there, soaking up the atmosphere.
Thank you very much, Robert. Really appreciate it.
Glad to see this great footage unaltered.
Keep it up!!!
And yet another thoroughly interesting video from YP. Keep them coming.
Thanks, Maurice!
I read the book as a high school freshman, 1964, from the school library. My dad, associate superintendent of county schools and director of special ed, gifted and talented programs, assistant pastor, Sunday School director, and choir director, saw it and sampled it. He was paranoid and appalled by the book, had it removed from the high school library.
Hehehe...what a square.
Very good video and informative ...I think on the whole its probably a good thing the stones film never happened...I honestly cannot imagine any of them, back then (other than Mick) taking direction and delivering their lines with any conviction. It would at best have been a bit of a joke for teeny fans only...like The Dave Clarke Five , Hermans Hermits etc....the Stones did not have the jolly Beatley repartee to carry a star-vehicle and it would have had to rely heavily on post-production to make it of any note...
*@richard lawless* Good point .The Stones didn't had to act anyway....
They were all interesting enough charismatic characters just to observe 'au naturel' .
The fact this dragged on for such a long time probably was because they did a lot in the footsteps of The Beatles.
Although having a high nostalgia quotient ,the "jolly Beatly" stuff was very much of it's time and looks somewhat tiring in retrospect . Another one of the reasons Lennon unnecessarily began condemning anything 'moptop'.
Excellent bit of history!! Well told and great footage!
Back then I would have gone to see it the film and during every scene that didn't have the Stones in it I would have thrown jujubes at the screen.
Now tell us about that Joe Orton film script for the Beatles.
Mick Jagger being mistaken for Diana Ross... priceless!
Some people were so clueless about rock acts at that time, four kids in wigs running around a New York airport in 1964 convinced many adults they were the Beatles, LOL!.
@@geneobrien8907 Jeez that's nothing- a few years back an obese imbecile convinced America he was a successful billionaire and was qualified to be POTUS...
That was great and very informative thanks! Keep them coming!
Awesome analysis. Really cool stuff.
Well, I can attest that Nicholas Roeg's film "Performance," starring Mick Jagger, James Fox, and Anita Pallenberg, is a very fine cinematic work of art, and Mick's acting in it is quite brilliant.
Wow! You learn something new every day.
Great video clip thanx u-tube,yeah there was talk of a movie similar to alot of rock n roll movies coming then,great footage!!!!
Hello Yesterday's papers! I really enjoy your video posts on the 1960's music scene!
There was also talk of Mick playing Oscar Wilde in a film about his trial for indecency
I had heard about the Mick Jagger as Alex thing, but I didn’t realize it originally would’ve had the other Stones as his Droogs!!
As fascinating as this sounds, I’m glad we got Kubrick and Malcolm McDowell in the end.
Clockwork O is one of my FAVORITES ever!
Yes, it's a brilliant film.
Great video as always! New information and very interesting! I see a lot of unseen footage and was wondering if links to them could be added to the description? Thanks for making new videos on the stones!!
Que lástima que no pudieron hacer una película los Stones en los años 65' 66' 67' la época que mas me gusta de ellos. Brian seria un actor genial a mi entender.
I love your channel
Thank you.
Fasten your seat belts indeed :) Another brilliant video YP. The footage you find is amazing. I love the photo of the Golden Stone at 5:27 💖 It's a shame this film was never made. I've always really enjoyed watching "A Hard Days Night" and "Help" I enjoy Lennon's humour in those films ✨🎸
Yeah, it's a shame it was never made. They got in touch with the right people so it could have been great. Willis Harris, Keith Waterhouse, Gillian Freeman, etc... wrote the film scripts to some of the best british films of the 60s. They were part of the new wave of british cinema and their work was pretty groundbreaking at the time.
6:46 Now I want to hear the story of Ginger Baker collapsing.
Hahaha! Here you go:
"Ginger Baker was taken to hospital unconscious after he collapsed during a performance at Portsmouth’s Birdcage Club on Saturday.
Their second performance at the club was cancelled and guitarist Eric Clapton said later: “Ginger has been taking pain-killing tables for sinus trouble which developed last year. He had a couple of drinks tonight and the two reacted.
A group spokesman said on Monday: “Ginger is suffering from overwork and very bad sinus trouble. He has been ordered by his doctor to rest for at least three weeks, but the trouble is stopping him. He wants to play. He will be playing up to the Christmas holidays.
The Cream won’t let their fans down, and if necessary they will use a replacement drummer, so no promoters need worry about whether the group will turn up.
The group’s new single “I Feel Free” and their first LP “Fresh Cream” are released tomorrow (Friday)."
@@YesterdaysPapers Thanks!
7:52 Mick Jagger did eventually agree to be assassinated in a movie of which he was the star. In "Performance" he is taken captive by a wayward Cray-brothers-esque gangster, and is eventually shot.
Very interesting😊👍
Thanks for making these videos I absolutely love them. Great work well done. X
What a shame!
I believe Brian would have done a great job acting in a movie.
In the end Andrew produced ‘ Charlie Is My Darling’ instead.
Andrew said the purpose of filming what came to be known as 'Charlie Is My Darling' was to get the Stones comfortable in front of cameras so when it came time to begin filming their first full-length feature film they would feel more natural. Andrew Oldham actually had no intention of releasing 'Charlie Is My Darling'. Andrew reflected on this in 2012 when he did a Q & A after a showing of the film in New York City for its first 'official' release by ABCKO Films, which I attended. Also, for years it was 'wrongfully assumed' that 'Charlie Is My Darling' was influenced by the Beatles movie 'A Hard Days Night'. When asked during the Q & A, "how much of this movie was influenced by 'A Hard Days Night'?, Andrew replied, "none of it". He then went on to say other bands were doing films as well like Gerry And The Pacemakers and the Dave Clark Five. Comparing a documentary film like 'Charlie Is My Darling' to a scripted comedy film like 'A Hard Days Night' is kind of a silly comparison.
@@robertweingartner2055 Thank you. I was wondering where or how that film fit into all of this.
In Other News: GINGER BAKER COLLAPSES AT PORTSMOUTH @ 6:50
I seem to recall that there was talk at one point about Mick Jagger starring in an adaptation of Gore Vidal's novel, Kalki.
A stones film would have been great
Giorgio Gomelsky talks about a film project, well before ALO was ever involved. Footage was shot, but has never surfaced.
Love the old footage.....so plain that it was Jones- Jagger.......at first.
Can you do a special documentary on The Rolling Stones' last photo session which was shot by Ethan Russell May 21,1969.
One oif the pics graced the Through The Past Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2) album, released on September 12,1968, which was dedicated to memory of Brian Jones.
Im a huge fan of this channel , great job Yesterdays papers , and Allen klein oens the rights to early stones , they fought to get that back but they never did, klein was a real shady business MAN and also stole the rights to sam COOKE music , the late singer was going to sue Klein but Cooke ended up dead under weird circumstances, Klein is a real nasty person , SMH
Thanks!
Yeah Klein robbed the stones, beatles, cooke and the verve blind. He is a parasite.
I remember borrowing and reading this book from the library in my town when I was a teenager. I thought the plot was interesting, even if the book had some minor faults.
Great! What might have been..
(2:38) This is similar in appearance to Sonic Youth - Goo album cover.
Didn't Kubrick consider casting the Stones for C.W.O? Or is that rumour?
Rumor. You are gullible.
@@doriangray2020 fact...you're pompous.
But Mick eventually turns up in 'Performance'! :0)
Correction: Loog Oldham wanted them to become celluloid legends.
Primär war es Allen Klein, der der trieb hinter dieser Idee war.
Und ich bin mir sicher, dieser Film, der von einer postapokalyptischen Welt handeln sollte in der die jungen Menschen das sagen haben, wäre genauso miss verstanden worden bzw. seiner zu weit voraus gewesen wie die/der Mutter*Vater aller Genderfilme "Metamorphosis".
Das vor allem Allen Klein in dieser Idee so verhaftet war, wenn ich richtig liege soll er sich sogar lt. Wyman die Rechte am Werk damals schon gesichert haben, lag vor allem an dem unglaublichen Einfluss, den insbesondere Bands wie die Beatles und die Rolling Stones auf die damalige Jugend der westlichen Welt, und nicht nur dort, ausübten.
Es gab sogar damals (um 67/68) eine sehr ernst gemeinnte Projektidee von Paul McCartney und Mick Jagger, das sich "Mother Earth" nennen sollte, und eine Art Haus sein sollte mit Tonstudio, wo Künstlerisch begabte Menschen gefördert werden sollten.
Diese Autorität, die solche Megastars wirklich bei jungen Menschen damals hatten, wollte er in dieser Filmidee umsetzen.
When mentioning "The Clock Work", any The Who fan can easiely see what clothes villans should wear?
Jesus ..where are finding this stuff?
I was actually alive at the time and don' remember any of these incredible factoids.
A Clockwork Orange with Jagger?!
You are the king of UA-cam.
what about the Gerry and the Pacemakers movies?
‘Ferry ‘Cross The Mersey’
Nicely done. However, I don't think it would have worked and having a film like this might have hurt the longevity of the group.
Well the film Ned Kelly certainly proved how top notch Mick's acting skills were. That's sarcasm folks.
"Performance" was cool, though. I love that film.
I thought he was good in "The Man from Elysian Fields" Never cared for him in anything else I've seen....maybe 10 minutes in "Performance". 😻
Can someone direct me to the Under My Thumb instrumental used here ?
Thanks
Bet that most of that "preliminary work" ended up in "Charlie Is My Darling".
There is SO MUCH ROLLING STONES presentations- I need 4 TV screens- either " There Satanic...." , Brian Jones, Songs Jagger.....ones are up. Don't you ever sleep????
they ended up in Gimme Shelter, which is an amazing movie
Since the Stones seemed to copy musically from the Beatles at times, I always wondered why they never came out with a feature film. I’m not sure if a Stones movie would’ve been any good. Outside of Mick Jagger, I don’t think any of the others had enough screen presence and personality for a film. Trying to do comedy like the Beatles would probably not have worked with the Stones.
No Money Honey. The Beatles had Big Money Behind them. Stones, not so much.
I see Wyman and Watts as the silent but deadly type. No actual acting involved.
Missed the window of opportunity is the most likely reason I can figure. '65 or '66 was the latest they could have pulled it off .By 1967 the drugs were everywhere. Even the Beatles Magical Mystery tour was ill fated
@@kabiam The Stones had much more money behind them than Herman's Hermits, Dave Clark 5, Gerry & the Pacemakers, etc, who also made films.
Yeah but, I’m sure those films were low budget and stupid 😂
Can we have some Keith Richards videos too please?! Thank you!!!
Who wants yesterday's papers?
Me for one. More please!
Geez, Andrew Loog Oldham and Allen Klein that sounds like a receipe for disaster from that point. Those two were horrible to everyone they managed.
I wonder if there are screen tests sitting in a film can somewhere. Have Peter Jackson look into it.
I hope Gingers going to be all right?
Too soon? 😉🇬🇧
A Shame That!!!
Too bad about Nick Ray. From 1949 with They Live By Night to 1961 with The Savage Innocents he was one of America's finest directors. Would have been interesting to see what he would have done and it certainly would be more entertaining than Godard's One Plus One (and I'm a big Godard fan)
I agree. I'm a big Godard fan too but most of his films from the late 60s and early 70s are not my cup of tea. "One Plus One" could have been much better. Nicholas Ray was definitely a great director, too bad he was in such bad shape. The Stones got in touch with some great scriptwriters so it could have been a cool film. I think they should have gotten someone like Lindsay Anderson to direct the film.
@@YesterdaysPapers agree with you about Godard. I like his early stuff (Contempt is one of my 12 all time fav films) but when he became too didactic and political I dropped out. In retrospect he was far too cerebral and intellectual to make a cohesive and engaging film with the Stones. Yes, Anderson might have been a good choice...maybe Welles too? Ah...I've got the perfect one--Joseph Losey.
@@willieluncheonette5843 Yes! Josep Losey would have been the perfect choice. I can actually see the Stones as the 'nasty gang of youths' in Black Leather Rock.
@@YesterdaysPapers yup...I can see it too.....lol
@@YesterdaysPapersMuch as I hate to say it, scripts make the movie, not the actors. Well, directors too.
Can't believed they caved to the Woke Mob and stopped playing "Brown Sugar"... Man up Rolling Stones!!
Name me a woker band then.
You're pretty woke if you're afraid to play your own songs.. I can't think of another band that Woke...Pitiful
@@steveconn I would guess that nobody black complained. The Stones have had a black bassist for many years now and if Steve Jordan becomes their new drummer they will have two black bandmates. I would bet money that neither of them have a problem with the song either. These kind of woke things are usually driven by white people who want black people to be offended at everything in order to keep them on the Democrat/leftist plantation in an effort to manipulate them into supporting their leftist agendas. The thing is, more and more black folks are getting wise to this game and are walking away from the plantation anyway.
Well it never happened did it🙄
Any drafts of the script survive? Bailey didn't suffer fools.
Klein was set to rip off the Stones again!
That movie summary sounds so stupid
Earier. on ...You Tube.....l posted about. Jagger being one of the first ... consideration s...for Clockwork Orange..............
Got all these nay sayers...assuring me it was never the case...
The Beatles made a couple of films and the Stones wanted to do the same thing.
Not that any of them could act for shit.
Brown Sugar. Pathetic the Stones cave to this woke nonsense. Breaks my heart.
brown sugar is a classic and number one song. you are pathetic
The comment is about them removing the song from the set list! Not a criticism of Brown Sugar!
@@robertbeatty9563 oh dear
I hear ya
Next it'll be Under My Thumb, Stupid Girl, When the Whip Comes Down...etc. 🙄
Thankfully none of this garbage ever came out featuring The Stones. Post-apocalyptic crap films. Seen one, seen 'em all. Who needs the daily remainder anyway? Smile, boys. You've got to let go of the method acting every once in a while. We all know those guys aren't really you.