I run many marathon each year at age 70. My doctor 25 years younger told me he can’t run because “of his knees”. I hear this all the time. A year ago my left knee was giving so much pain i stopped running and when to a physical therapy, then x ray - nothing, then mri, then sport specialist doc who read the mri in front of me and explained there was nothing wrong with my knee and that all my running in fact caused my knees to be strong and disease free! He told me to run as much as i want/could tolerate the pain. Well i immediately returned to my running and the the pain soon disappeared! Do my knees hurt after a 100 miler - of course, but so does everything else and all the younger runners are sore and hurting too 😆 in june i set and FKT 190 miles in 63 hours - my advise is same as my sports doc- hurting? Go for a run 😀🏃♂️🏃♂️
Good video. Your right, people should say “why does running hurt my knees” not “it’s bad for my knees”. You’ve just got to train right. (I’m a three knee op vet whose been able to run again thanks to Coach Parry).
I will turn 69 in November. Been running all my life except when at sea ( US Navy) and while being a caregiver and literally didn’t have much free time. Averaging over 2K per year since 2000. Had a few knee issues that just happened out of the blue. As they were saying , I blame a imbalance from my glutes all the way down to my feet. Causes could be shoes , PF in one foot , making me favor the unaffected foot. I wear knee braces for extra support , keep new fresh shoes on. Great information Coach and staff 👍
Nice one. Especially about the trainers. Here is my 5c Get buddies in a car to film you from the side and front (a passenger doing the filming). A smart phone with the V1 Golf app is great. If you are into Triathlon, same thing for the swimming, although you have to ask permission as they get ‘funny’ with cameras around swimming pools as you might guess. My poison is sprint distance triathlon and I am always looking for ways to improve. 1/ Any issues with the knee and below, first stop is trainers. Find a shop with a treadmill and a web camera at floor level. They will check out your gait and give you a correct pair for you. 2/ If you must, at ‘normal’ or training speed, strike with the knee slightly bent. Obviously not as much as for it to be over the toes or ankle even. 3/ When things get faster and race pace, or like when you are doing HIIT or sprints, push your hips forward so that you land directly beneath the hips with the foot flat on the ground. Landing ahead of the hips is a no-no as at that point you are not propelling yourself forward, only holding yourself up against gravity. It is only a split second, but if you add it all up, it will make the difference between coming first or being the first loser. I can't stress enough how important core exercises are for this one. 4/Never forget a stretching routine.
great show. i would also recommend bare foot running, to tune up your planter facialis, and enhance your gaite posture. shoes will many times destroy natural running posture. example to much heel strike.
Fantastic advice. I've recently received similar advice from a professional running company. Please listen to this advice as you will strengthen your body and running technique. Thank-you for advising runners.
Why are you talking about "bone" strength? The knee is a joint, not a bone. Knee problems, for the most part, are soft tissue related. Progressive damage to the bone only occurs after cartledge, ligament, meniscal, muscle imbalance, and tendonous damage has occurred. Foot pronation also plays a big part. An overweight and out of shape person with poor nutrition will destroy their knees much faster by running than they would by just sitting around. They must fix most of those stated issues before starting to run if they wish to continue running.
I run plenty of km and don’t have any knee pain or injuries. I don’t do any strength training and just rely on running. Maybe I should do some strength training as I’m getting older to prevent any injuries going forward. I usually run about 1500km per year.
Very interesting indeed! I get pain in the front of my knee from time to time and would like to hear more from Shona regarding how to get balance between the 3 quad muscles right. (it might also be a ligament that flares up)
I got t a coach and a strength coach, also I got my form checked before start, after a year running carefully and increasing the load slowly, I have bad knees. 3 PT could have not helped me.
Wish you re-evalute the "no knees over toes" idea. It is incorrect in most instances. When done correctly and progressively is an important way to improve joint mobility and strength. It is an out dated idea.
I don’t see where she’s saying “no knees over toes.” In fact, my take is that she’s saying that movement has to be strengthened for proper movement and form while maintaining stability. It’s impossibly to not put knees over toes when doing certain movements. May want to watch that last minute again.
@@zochert57 She does soft pedal the idea of 'no knees over toes" but only after she indicates that correct form avoids "knees over toes"... and, that is incorrect. K.O.T. is acceptable WHEN DONE CORRECTLY and PROGRESSIVELY and has been shown to help the knees and not put stress on the knees in a negative fashion. In short, the video gives a mixed message that is easily confused with an assumption that K.O.T. is "...something they don't like..." but know it is necessary. 8:42 - "...when you're doing your strength training *** one of the things that we don't like to do is really be pushing your knees over your toes that puts a lot of pressure on the knees because essentially your entire weight is now leaning over the knees and and that's what's causing a little bit of strain *** but very often when you go through your day-to-day life your knee does land up going over your toe think about when you're walking downstairs you don't walk downstairs by squatting with your bum going back first and putting all the pressure on your heel you very often put your foot down and your knee goes over your toe so in order to be functional we want to be able to be strong enough to have our knees going over our toes but the way we train it is that we want to ensure that we are being safe and ensuring that we're building strength in the safest way possible..."
Assuming you don't have a specific knee injury, I'd guess Iliotibial (IT) Band Syndrome caused by weak glutes. Look up how to strengthen your glutes and activate them to support your running mechanics.
I mean, I had “bad knees” and pain in my joints before going to the gym and getting in better shape, whether or not I ran. My knees would get hurt doing all kinds of things that weren’t running. Now I run with ease..
I run many marathon each year at age 70. My doctor 25 years younger told me he can’t run because “of his knees”. I hear this all the time. A year ago my left knee was giving so much pain i stopped running and when to a physical therapy, then x ray - nothing, then mri, then sport specialist doc who read the mri in front of me and explained there was nothing wrong with my knee and that all my running in fact caused my knees to be strong and disease free! He told me to run as much as i want/could tolerate the pain. Well i immediately returned to my running and the the pain soon disappeared! Do my knees hurt after a 100 miler - of course, but so does everything else and all the younger runners are sore and hurting too 😆 in june i set and FKT 190 miles in 63 hours - my advise is same as my sports doc- hurting? Go for a run 😀🏃♂️🏃♂️
You sir are an inspiration. Keep going
Thanks so much..I had microfracture knee surgery in 2015, but running without pain now. Fully recovered and going die gold.🕺🙏
Good video. Your right, people should say “why does running hurt my knees” not “it’s bad for my knees”. You’ve just got to train right. (I’m a three knee op vet whose been able to run again thanks to Coach Parry).
I will turn 69 in November. Been running all my life except when at sea ( US Navy) and while being a caregiver and literally didn’t have much free time.
Averaging over 2K per year since 2000. Had a few knee issues that just happened out of the blue. As they were saying , I blame a imbalance from my glutes all the way down to my feet.
Causes could be shoes , PF in one foot , making me favor the unaffected foot.
I wear knee braces for extra support , keep new fresh shoes on.
Great information Coach and staff 👍
The most common abnormality I see is leg length discrepancy. Many times this can be traced back to a misaligned pelvic girdle.
Nice one. Especially about the trainers. Here is my 5c
Get buddies in a car to film you from the side and front (a passenger doing the filming). A smart phone with the V1 Golf app is great. If you are into Triathlon, same thing for the swimming, although you have to ask permission as they get ‘funny’ with cameras around swimming pools as you might guess. My poison is sprint distance triathlon and I am always looking for ways to improve.
1/ Any issues with the knee and below, first stop is trainers. Find a shop with a treadmill and a web camera at floor level. They will check out your gait and give you a correct pair for you.
2/ If you must, at ‘normal’ or training speed, strike with the knee slightly bent. Obviously not as much as for it to be over the toes or ankle even.
3/ When things get faster and race pace, or like when you are doing HIIT or sprints, push your hips forward so that you land directly beneath the hips with the foot flat on the ground. Landing ahead of the hips is a no-no as at that point you are not propelling yourself forward, only holding yourself up against gravity. It is only a split second, but if you add it all up, it will make the difference between coming first or being the first loser. I can't stress enough how important core exercises are for this one.
4/Never forget a stretching routine.
great show. i would also recommend bare foot running, to tune up your planter facialis, and enhance your gaite posture. shoes will many times destroy natural running posture. example to much heel strike.
Im a biker then i run now for 2 yrs regularly i dont have any knee pain im 59...i hope i could still run when much older.
Excellent session.....I'm struggling with knee issues...thanks so much
Fantastic advice. I've recently received similar advice from a professional running company. Please listen to this advice as you will strengthen your body and running technique. Thank-you for advising runners.
This is very interesting, explained in layman’s terms by Shona. Thank you this has reassured me in my approach to dealing with osteoarthritis
Why are you talking about "bone" strength? The knee is a joint, not a bone. Knee problems, for the most part, are soft tissue related. Progressive damage to the bone only occurs after cartledge, ligament, meniscal, muscle imbalance, and tendonous damage has occurred. Foot pronation also plays a big part. An overweight and out of shape person with poor nutrition will destroy their knees much faster by running than they would by just sitting around. They must fix most of those stated issues before starting to run if they wish to continue running.
I run plenty of km and don’t have any knee pain or injuries. I don’t do any strength training and just rely on running. Maybe I should do some strength training as I’m getting older to prevent any injuries going forward. I usually run about 1500km per year.
Very interesting indeed! I get pain in the front of my knee from time to time and would like to hear more from Shona regarding how to get balance between the 3 quad muscles right. (it might also be a ligament that flares up)
it may start with your feet.
Great review, thanks for sharing Coach!
Totally agree.
Higher cadences and shorter strides reduces knee injuries. Also doing intervals on hills and don't try to run downhill fast.
What’s the outcomes for marathon runners etc? Do they end up with bad knees?
I got t a coach and a strength coach, also I got my form checked before start, after a year running carefully and increasing the load slowly, I have bad knees. 3 PT could have not helped me.
I’ve even heard this from other runners. It doesn’t come from non-runners; it comes from people who don’t know shit about their own body.
Wish you re-evalute the "no knees over toes" idea. It is incorrect in most instances. When done correctly and progressively is an important way to improve joint mobility and strength. It is an out dated idea.
I don’t see where she’s saying “no knees over toes.” In fact, my take is that she’s saying that movement has to be strengthened for proper movement and form while maintaining stability. It’s impossibly to not put knees over toes when doing certain movements. May want to watch that last minute again.
@@zochert57 She does soft pedal the idea of 'no knees over toes" but only after she indicates that correct form avoids "knees over toes"... and, that is incorrect. K.O.T. is acceptable WHEN DONE CORRECTLY and PROGRESSIVELY and has been shown to help the knees and not put stress on the knees in a negative fashion. In short, the video gives a mixed message that is easily confused with an assumption that K.O.T. is "...something they don't like..." but know it is necessary.
8:42 - "...when you're doing your strength training *** one of the things that we don't like to do is really be pushing
your knees over your toes that puts a
lot of pressure on the knees because
essentially your entire weight is now
leaning over the knees and and that's
what's causing a little bit of strain ***
but very often when you go through your
day-to-day life your knee does land up
going over your toe think about when
you're walking downstairs you don't walk
downstairs by squatting with your bum
going back first and putting all the
pressure on your heel you very often put
your foot down and your knee goes over
your toe so in order to be functional we want to be able to be strong enough to have our knees going over our toes but the way we train it is that we want to ensure that we are being safe and ensuring that we're building strength in the safest way possible..."
every one is an individual find a fitness routine that works best for especially as we age.oh yeah for sure.
I get knee pain of the outside knee when running, this is an issue when training boxing and I'm not sure what my weakness is so that I can correct it!
Assuming you don't have a specific knee injury, I'd guess Iliotibial (IT) Band Syndrome caused by weak glutes. Look up how to strengthen your glutes and activate them to support your running mechanics.
Isn't running puts pressure on damage tissues of the affected knee like damage cartilage?
It's not surface, nor shoes, nor running that negatively affects your knees. It is your own body weight.
Well mine hurt now am 64 I think it is
64 lol My hands have arthritis at 63 .Running?
Ah, so you're saying, if you're out of shape and you want to run, you need to go to the gym first...or else it will be bad for your knees...got it...
I mean, I had “bad knees” and pain in my joints before going to the gym and getting in better shape, whether or not I ran. My knees would get hurt doing all kinds of things that weren’t running. Now I run with ease..