Actually that's a good creative idea, but it wouldn't be able to yaw effectively. Perhaps a couple of arms could tilt, or use a tail fan like a traditional copter. If one octocopter can lift 15kg, then eight should be able to lift a person. Strap a harness underneath, and you have your own airtaxi and FPV without the goggles! :-)
Andy Lee Robinson Of course it would yaw effectively. Groups of motors would change in unison to respond to yaw. This has been done some time ago, and carrying a human pilot, too.
Great build! If you want to stiffen the frame to reduce that flexing you was talking about, consider doing some cross bracing between the legs. Basically when you have a flat construction like this it's hard to reduce that type of twisting flex. So out of plane bracing will make a huge difference. Ideally the joints should not take any load at all (in rotation or a torque), an ideal frame is equally stiff with ball-joints as with rigid joints. Anyway something to try is to attach some wire or like fishing lines diagonally between endpoints of the legs and beams.
I can't believe it. this is the first time i have ever seen anyone with a $1000+ flight controller, especially on a home made frame. Nice commercial though, great job!
Been thinking of getting some crowd funding money and having the old VZ-7 restored to flying conditions as the world's biggest quad copter! Be a big hit at airshows I bet ya!
Hey man this might sound weird But i use "5 second fix" on flexi joints to lock them out after using makeshift parts and they become rock solid. The stuff is a uv based resin polymer that's used in 3d printing.
Absolutely fantastic build! Well done, well thought out and I'm sure the flex can be easily remedied. Maybe that superglue string will work to add some rigidity? Well done my friend, well done!
Whoa, quite a cliff hanger, Daniel! Nice build, consider clamping the square tubes together between another set of your carbon tabs, that may alleviate your rigidity issue?
I plan to make one similar to this, but perhaps different motors. Can you list the carbon parts that you ordered? Were they cut and ready for assembly or did it take some work? Thanks
Hey great design! It"s good that you're getting into the carbon-fibre construction. Have you considered bolt hole placement in your designs? I noticed that you have some bolt holes quite close to the edge. While carbon is very strong, if you reduce it down to such thin sections (especially with the 0/+-45/90/+-45/0 degree layup), the bolt holes can shear out quite easily. It's best to leave at least 2.5-3 times the hole diameter between the edge and the hole. Especially with the large forces experienced by the octo, little design aspects like that can help prevent things from unexpectedly cracking.
Freakin awesome. I am always very impressed by your work. It's crazy the amount of money you put into these things, but i guess you earn money from them.
HI , JUST WONDERED WHAT YOUR LOW VOLTAGE 1ST AND 2ND PROTECTION WAS SET AT , I AM USING THE NAZA FC AND WOULD LOVE SOME ADVICE ON THIS , O IM USING 22.2V 6CELL , THANKS SCOTT
how would i set up a current sensor for a tilt rotor drone that can pull up to 500 Amp's with 8 motors?? I have a eagle tree vector. the current sensor max is only 140 with a continuous amp draw of only 60 amps. so how do the guys with a mad number of motors do current senors?
I have a quadcopter that i 3D printed. What do you think would be a good motor size for 10 -12 inch props. I have a multistar 5200 3s battery, fpv and a walked 2d gimbal running off a 7.4v 1000 mah battery. Im Looking for that 15-20 min flight time.
Hi Daniel. Did you consider mounting the flight controller to the non isolated part of the frame? I'm flying a "flip fpv pro", and several people (me included) experienced wobbling issues which were solved by directly mounting the FC to the "dirty plate". The issue is that the isolation causes a delay in the feedback that the FC is picking. I know that it will be tricky with the design you have, as the entire center portion of the frame is isolated, but I'm sure you'll figure it out ;-) p.s., thanks for the inspiring videos. I really enjoy those!
+agus2001 You'll get more lift, much more lift. He could run some smaller props and then 4-blade, but because this is a camera platform and not a racing quad, efficiency is more important than power :)
The white colour also inhibits radiation from the motor, so that it does not cool as well as if in a darker tone. Reflecting the sun makes zero sence in contrast.
any somewhat fabricator (or even carpenter) can design a better shape than the cross joints that you used now, so ask a neighbour redesign your cross joints, also add GLUE for surface connection, should be a neglectable investment and creates improvement to rigidity, you'll have to do this anyway
You are lucky you can fly that beast in that neighborhood!! I live in a pretty similar kind of neighborhood and if I took something of this caliber out to test fly in my front yard I'd have every cop in our district here and probably swat and FAA CIA exc..... These folks here where I live freak the hell out when I test my quads out. Usually it's just my smaller racing quads but be damned when I take just my little old S500 out for a short test flight people start running around screaming and grabbing there children and rushing them into the house. It's really bad here in Ohio. The media just about once a week has a story about drones and they try their hardest to demonize them. Obviously it's working here where I live. Thankfully though my family owns a 115 acre farm outside the city where I can go and fly but thing is no wifi out in the boonies and cell service is hit and miss unfortunately. So no testing there until we get wifi installed if ever.
I've been working on design on quad and jet rc for yrs. you do good thorough work. If you ever wish to collaborate with another. please send me an email
RandomSpaceManInSpace exactly! My first build almost drove me to insanity. I just halted my project for a couple weeks and in that time I researched and researched more and the day I picked back up where I left off I had my S500 flying. RC groups won't be of much help either so good luck there. I'm guessing they figure you will figure it out on your own and you will eventually.
Hey, Daniel, wondering what you think of the FAA possibly banning FPV goggles in the US? I know you often fly with a monitor, but do you really use them as much as your goggles?
Next build a quadcopter but instead of propellers use octocopters. Basically 4 octocopters connected together for a total of 32 props :P
Your comment fits your name, insane
gagomand This is the kind of comment chain that makes my day
Actually that's a good creative idea, but it wouldn't be able to yaw effectively.
Perhaps a couple of arms could tilt, or use a tail fan like a traditional copter.
If one octocopter can lift 15kg, then eight should be able to lift a person.
Strap a harness underneath, and you have your own airtaxi and FPV without the goggles! :-)
Andy Lee Robinson you misspelt deathtrap
Andy Lee Robinson Of course it would yaw effectively. Groups of motors would change in unison to respond to yaw. This has been done some time ago, and carrying a human pilot, too.
Awesome job on the world's first flying dining table.
Great build! If you want to stiffen the frame to reduce that flexing you was talking about, consider doing some cross bracing between the legs. Basically when you have a flat construction like this it's hard to reduce that type of twisting flex. So out of plane bracing will make a huge difference. Ideally the joints should not take any load at all (in rotation or a torque), an ideal frame is equally stiff with ball-joints as with rigid joints. Anyway something to try is to attach some wire or like fishing lines diagonally between endpoints of the legs and beams.
Can't wait to see the aerial footage with FS700. Sick rig.
I can't believe it. this is the first time i have ever seen anyone with a $1000+ flight controller, especially on a home made frame. Nice commercial though, great job!
Love it, it looks like a flying coffee table!!!!!
Been thinking of getting some crowd funding money and having the old VZ-7 restored to flying conditions as the world's biggest quad copter! Be a big hit at airshows I bet ya!
looks like a flying picnic table,, nice setup
Love the slippers =)
Oh, and the octocopter as well.
Hey man this might sound weird But i use "5 second fix" on flexi joints to lock them out after using makeshift parts and they become rock solid. The stuff is a uv based resin polymer that's used in 3d printing.
This thing is ridiculous! (in a good way) A 27 minute flight time is pretty impressive for a multirotor though, great job!
Absolutely fantastic build! Well done, well thought out and I'm sure the flex can be easily remedied. Maybe that superglue string will work to add some rigidity? Well done my friend, well done!
This is beyond awesome. Great vid
Whoa, quite a cliff hanger, Daniel! Nice build, consider clamping the square tubes together between another set of your carbon tabs, that may alleviate your rigidity issue?
Crazyyy.I can't wait to see the fs700 on this :)
Awesome practical build!
Your videos are better when Quin is in them. :) Great job.
Can deliver pizzas so cool stuff
I love that isolated platform
Like your videos Dan! That octo is a beast! Respectable flight times too, well done.
Congratulations! great multirrotor. Flying in stationary is when more consumed. Flying forward slowly, possibly the batteries last longer.
Yes in translational lift.
I watched this video in middle school and I've been searching for it for years
cool!
BTW dropforgedsteel, have you become a flat earther yet?
wow those avrotos are pricey..
have you thought about using wood/balsa for the centerplate for additional vibration absorption?
Great work, I like this design.
I plan to make one similar to this, but perhaps different motors.
Can you list the carbon parts that you ordered? Were they cut and ready for assembly or did it take some work?
Thanks
As always, nice job! Thanks for the links too!
You can earn a excellent job, Well done!
Great, can't wait to see the next video!
So much Carbon! I'd be careful with reciever placement since carbon can really mess with 2.4.
ever think of mounting the batteries on the isolation mount instead of the main frame so the mass can act as dampers?
Hey great design! It"s good that you're getting into the carbon-fibre construction.
Have you considered bolt hole placement in your designs? I noticed that you have some bolt holes quite close to the edge. While carbon is very strong, if you reduce it down to such thin sections (especially with the 0/+-45/90/+-45/0 degree layup), the bolt holes can shear out quite easily. It's best to leave at least 2.5-3 times the hole diameter between the edge and the hole.
Especially with the large forces experienced by the octo, little design aspects like that can help prevent things from unexpectedly cracking.
20 amps for 26 mins NOT BAD!!! COOL VID SUBBED
Simple is good.... nice. But have to say I like em a lot smaller!
it´s so interesing what´s "a revolution" back than
Very cool. That thing is expensive, you have about $900 in motors only!
this is my favorite drone on UA-cam :)
is it still?
BTW captaintubes, have you become a flat earther yet?
yeah but can it take out the garbage?
+Steves ForcedAccount maybe...
I love octos. They make me moist. Should slap some 9s or 12s high capacity cells on that beast.
Did you build one yet? BTW kandiklover, have you become a flat earther yet?
@@flat-earther The earth is a computer simulation and doesn't exist. Flat earth is a distraction to keep us from breaking out.
I see potential lawn mowing equipment here! Great vid Daniel ;-)
Super. Thanks for the great video. Greeting from Germany ;)
Nice video and camera. But it is not a wisdom to use DJI flight controller due to some unsolved bugs in DJI‘s extended low pass filter.
Freakin awesome. I am always very impressed by your work. It's crazy the amount of money you put into these things, but i guess you earn money from them.
nice lawn!
Good exposition!
You have a nice lawn.
nice octocopter i have also been making a quadcopter which is really really small from this
Is this for real!? I am actually the 99,999 viewer! This is amazing! What do I win?!
Patrik You win a good video to watch from RCTestFlight
Love this build.lets make this :D
Thumbs Up if you thought it was a Lego Technic invention. :)
You should go over you FPV setup!
Very interesting flight time :)
cool video :D
greetings from germany too :)
What type of wire are you using for your vibration isolators? Those look awesome, great idea.
Not pretty, but pretty interesting. Looking forward to the followup video.
Just hook a few of them things together, put a seat in the center and you'll have your own E-Volo =-O
HI , JUST WONDERED WHAT YOUR LOW VOLTAGE 1ST AND 2ND PROTECTION WAS SET AT , I AM USING THE NAZA FC AND WOULD LOVE SOME ADVICE ON THIS , O IM USING 22.2V 6CELL , THANKS SCOTT
how do you charge all your battery that coulde an idea for video :)
how would i set up a current sensor for a tilt rotor drone that can pull up to 500 Amp's with 8 motors?? I have a eagle tree vector. the current sensor max is only 140 with a continuous amp draw of only 60 amps. so how do the guys with a mad number of motors do current senors?
Very nice :).....but where do you take all the money from to build such things ?!
I think he is a cinematographic student or something like that. It is an asset for him to be able to to aerial movies.
I have a quadcopter that i 3D printed. What do you think would be a good motor size for
10 -12 inch props. I have a multistar 5200 3s battery, fpv and a walked 2d gimbal running off a 7.4v 1000 mah battery. Im Looking for that 15-20 min flight time.
Hi Daniel. Did you consider mounting the flight controller to the non isolated part of the frame? I'm flying a "flip fpv pro", and several people (me included) experienced wobbling issues which were solved by directly mounting the FC to the "dirty plate". The issue is that the isolation causes a delay in the feedback that the FC is picking.
I know that it will be tricky with the design you have, as the entire center portion of the frame is isolated, but I'm sure you'll figure it out ;-)
p.s., thanks for the inspiring videos. I really enjoy those!
Very awesome, but you throw a lot of money at this thing!
Amazing dro
Looks like a flying Black and Decker workbench
That monster sounds like a swarm of angry bees.
What are the neodymium magnets used for?
how much did this copter cost you?
what is the max weight this copter can carry?
thanx
Is this a prototype of the Alta?
how much does a build like this cost?
Could you release videos more often:)?
So, .....how much did this one cost?
Some piano wire diagonal bracing will get rid of excessive flex.
This is surely a multi-rotor for carrying a 20.000mah or more battery
2:45 it looks like a fly buzzing around a lightbulb lol
how much it weighs?
quick question. would you get more lift if the rotors had four blades instead of two?
+agus2001 The motors don't have enough power.
Adam Ye got it. thanks.
+agus2001 You'll get more lift, much more lift. He could run some smaller props and then 4-blade, but because this is a camera platform and not a racing quad, efficiency is more important than power :)
The white colour also inhibits radiation from the motor, so that it does not cool as well as if in a darker tone. Reflecting the sun makes zero sence in contrast.
how much did this copter cost you?
So huuuuge !
any somewhat fabricator (or even carpenter) can design a better shape than the cross joints that you used now, so ask a neighbour
redesign your cross joints, also add GLUE for surface connection,
should be a neglectable investment and creates improvement to rigidity, you'll have to do this anyway
Put in some string cross bracing. That frame is unstable.
are u in coolorado?
Your neighbor didnt complain about the noise?
You are naming product names several times.
How much did you get ;-)
Lol
VERY DUMB COMMENT - KNOW YOUR TEACHER ID10T
You are lucky you can fly that beast in that neighborhood!! I live in a pretty similar kind of neighborhood and if I took something of this caliber out to test fly in my front yard I'd have every cop in our district here and probably swat and FAA CIA exc..... These folks here where I live freak the hell out when I test my quads out. Usually it's just my smaller racing quads but be damned when I take just my little old S500 out for a short test flight people start running around screaming and grabbing there children and rushing them into the house. It's really bad here in Ohio. The media just about once a week has a story about drones and they try their hardest to demonize them. Obviously it's working here where I live. Thankfully though my family owns a 115 acre farm outside the city where I can go and fly but thing is no wifi out in the boonies and cell service is hit and miss unfortunately. So no testing there until we get wifi installed if ever.
wow
BTW Christopher, have you become a flat earther yet?
How much is inch Height,Width,Length ?
whats the point of having so many rotors ?
Thanks
Generally speaking, the more motors, the more lift
ok yes i suspected that , may be it comes with less manoeuvrability
@@saadamiens also, if one motor breaks it wont crash
how much?
Dude, You need some triangles in you frame.
Triangle Bracing. Very small, a dab will do
I've been working on design on quad and jet rc for yrs. you do good thorough work. If you ever wish to collaborate with another. please send me an email
what video editor do you use?
looks like a flying table.
this gon be guud:D
How are you so smart and know everything what to do did you go to school for drones or what????!
It takes a lot of research, determination, and concentration. I have only just started designing my own. :)
RandomSpaceManInSpace exactly! My first build almost drove me to insanity. I just halted my project for a couple weeks and in that time I researched and researched more and the day I picked back up where I left off I had my S500 flying. RC groups won't be of much help either so good luck there. I'm guessing they figure you will figure it out on your own and you will eventually.
Hey, Daniel, wondering what you think of the FAA possibly banning FPV goggles in the US? I know you often fly with a monitor, but do you really use them as much as your goggles?
He flies out of los to all the time so I doubt that he really will take them seriously, especially with the FAA just pulling laws out of their asses
AwesomeRC Yeah, at least the AMA is backing us up (for now).
The motors are incredibly expensive and you have 8 haha
Where do you get all the money to pay for a build like this? Jealous!
Mike Sera a job? haha
Watch the background scenes of the video. Rich people neighborhood.
How do you afford this stuff? haha.
One pyramidal geodesic structure would have solved the flexing.
awesome :)