currently own like 1 of those and it's light and beat in but I'll work on getting my hands on em to compare! ...I think I'm going to need to find a retail sponsor so I don't blow all my money on discs!!!! lol
I really really like the disc compare and contrast rounds you've been doing. So very much better than just somebody throwing them each in a field. A whole round just tells us so much more
@@BodanzaDiscGolf make sure to get a Fission. Fission is very workable and will hold any line you put it on. I use a 167g, which the equivalent of a 177g normal Hex, at least according to MVP.
@@BodanzaDiscGolf have a hex, love the hex, straight flight but for me personally not as much fade as you want at the end. I only use it for super straight tunnel shots under 320 ft. I can still get my Cryztal Buzzz to fly further though.
Glad you checked out the mind bender as I was a commenter about it on your last video. all that wind it must have been hard to see which was the straightest.
For a "super straight" disc even though its a putter you need to definitely try the "Habit" by Plastic Addicts, it is 100% the straightest disc I have ever thrown. With the amount of glide on it you can still throw it a good amount of distance even though its technically a putter
The mind bender is the straitest disc I have ever thrown! Too bad they will be next to impossible to get without paying a ton of money!!! Great video though!!
Okay sorry but I accidentally deleted my comment on your newest video but I seen some of your reply in bubble a little bit before I did so went back to watch this video and yes that Mindbender is pretty dang great. I actually did watch this video when You released it I just forgot lol
Lat 64 Opto Compass is my go-to strait and shapeable mid range. Way less touchy than a Mako3 or BuZZZ SS. I bag a MD1 as well as it can handle a little bit more power and torque than my Compass
I’ve had the same swirly star Mako3 in my bag for the last 3 years but the Mind Bender just kicked it out. The metal flake C-Line plastic feels great and the slight bit of extra glide puts the Mind Bender above the Mako3 for me
I've started putting with an infinite disc cohort for this exact effect. Also recently played a comp with a guy who putted with a comet and he was getting perfect straight glide for long range putts.
I warms my heart that you mentioned the Opto Claymore. It's a great disc. Mine was lighter than I wanted, but have been throwing a Lizottle Hex in this spot. I always feel guilty for having my Claymore in the closet
I enjoy the disc comparisons. Perhaps the next step beyond “which is the straightest/flippiest/longest/best of these 3 similar discs” is talking about shot selection or handling with 2 or 3 discs of the same class but with different flight profiles (e.g. fuse vs pyro vs buzz). Throw different lines depending on what the disc needs in the circumstances.
I've only been disc golfing for about 2 years now, but the Mako3 was one of my first discs, and I've since switched over to a bit of a Prodigy fanboy. But that said, I recently was gifted a Buzz from a friend so I thought I'd give it a shot. I've only thrown it for like 3 or 4 rounds, but I just don't like it, I think it's overhyped. My go to straight mid is currently the MX-3 or M4 (I didn't buy a brand new MX-3 so idk if they're straight flyers out of the box, but M4 definitely is!)
I have only thrown an ESP meteor but I'd say it's more similar to the mako3 than the buzzz, but is flipper than the champ mako3, maybe more similar to a star, but the z meteor could be similar to the champ mako3
You obviously don't have to make yourself choose the disk that wins on paper. There are always factors that can't be seen that affect your decision on whether to bag something or not.
Hey this is Pulaski park in East Chicago/Hammond? I'm like 15 minutes away from here.... Some fun courses in the area are Rivers Edge in Munster, Lake Hills in Schereville (long tees), and Hidden Lake in Merriville (24 holes)
this was that course! I was in town for a day and got to play it! I played a tournament at hidden lake on the way in to chicago but am in cleveland now!
I feel like you shouldn't change your shot off the tee if you're trying to do a fair comparison but that's just me. I just want to say loving the videos and the mind bender replaced my mako3 such a good disc.
@@BodanzaDiscGolf maybe it's because I wanted the mind bender to win but hole 2 the mind bender shot was much different. Anyway keep up the great work can't wait for the next video
Haha yeah it was the same shot just didn’t engage my hips on the first forehand! Hard to redo every shot every time if I make a mistake so I tend to trust that the whole of the video will give a full picture even if I mess up! I too wanted the mind bender to win but I screwed myself over haha!
Because I only have so much money and time right now lol! Going to compare the hex at least as well, pathfinder maybe but Apollo disc golf just did this video!!
Want to trade that Mind bender for another one? I collect green discs with blue foil, I have a Yellow with Silver stamp, with the MVP open champion stamped on the back :D
@@BodanzaDiscGolf will be more similar to those two. It seems to have more glide than than my ss. But not as flippy. Super straight flier with consistent fade at the end.
Clash Discs Berry has taken the straight midrange spot in my bag and I'm loving it!
Absolutely fallen in love with this channel in the last couple weeks. Grade A material, mate, thanks for entertaining. 👌
Glad you enjoy it!
The buzzz ss is my favorite mid. Super clean release and a beautifully slow turning disc. Let’s see a firebird vs raptor vs felon comparison
currently own like 1 of those and it's light and beat in but I'll work on getting my hands on em to compare! ...I think I'm going to need to find a retail sponsor so I don't blow all my money on discs!!!! lol
Add a lat 64 pioneer to that mix
ayyy here's the mind bender video! the content just keeps getting cleaner and cleaner and better and better man. Keep it up!
Thanks! Will do!
I really really like the disc compare and contrast rounds you've been doing. So very much better than just somebody throwing them each in a field. A whole round just tells us so much more
Your "caffeinated" style (for lack of a better term) is really fun- enjoying the videos.
I'll throw my chips in for the pathfinder by thoughtspace. absolutely love that disc and it doesn't get enough attention.
Fission Hex is straighter and flies further than the Buzzz SS we have. I do want to try a Mind Bender some day but don't have need right now.
Totally fair! Want to check out the hex for sure
@@BodanzaDiscGolf make sure to get a Fission. Fission is very workable and will hold any line you put it on. I use a 167g, which the equivalent of a 177g normal Hex, at least according to MVP.
@@BodanzaDiscGolf have a hex, love the hex, straight flight but for me personally not as much fade as you want at the end. I only use it for super straight tunnel shots under 320 ft.
I can still get my Cryztal Buzzz to fly further though.
I just bought a big z meteor and a mind bender love them both the mind bender has some fade at the end for me anyway. Great video 👍
After watching 3 of your videos, definitely got a new fan! Keep up the great work!
Mako3 goes where you throw it, helps correct my release angle. top 15 disc for me
Glad you checked out the mind bender as I was a commenter about it on your last video. all that wind it must have been hard to see which was the straightest.
if you put extra spin on Mako3 like Wysoki does it will fly TRUE to the numbers 100%
For a "super straight" disc even though its a putter you need to definitely try the "Habit" by Plastic Addicts, it is 100% the straightest disc I have ever thrown. With the amount of glide on it you can still throw it a good amount of distance even though its technically a putter
Thanks! The buzz ss is in my bag but feel makes me not take it when I should. Guess I try the mind bender
You won't regret it!
The mind bender is the straitest disc I have ever thrown! Too bad they will be next to impossible to get without paying a ton of money!!! Great video though!!
They’re available everywhere. I’ve gotten like 8 of them
I like my Buzz SS but I've never thrown the other two. Great video love the energy.
thank you!
Okay sorry but I accidentally deleted my comment on your newest video but I seen some of your reply in bubble a little bit before I did so went back to watch this video and yes that Mindbender is pretty dang great. I actually did watch this video when You released it I just forgot lol
im a max weight star mako3 user so im bias but this was great to watch. my bag is going to increase because of this. i love mids~
Lat 64 Opto Compass is my go-to strait and shapeable mid range. Way less touchy than a Mako3 or BuZZZ SS. I bag a MD1 as well as it can handle a little bit more power and torque than my Compass
I'd love to see a Crave vs FD vs TL review!
I second that. I bag a TL and a crave. Love them both despite being so similar. I find myself reaching for the crave more tho
I'll try to snag those and make it happen!
10k soon
"Ball don't scoreboard baby" - we need merch
Love your stuff man. Just really wish you’d have waited for a less windy day to compare these discs 🤷🏻♂️
FWIW Mako3 feels way better in max-weight star/halo star
I’d pick the mako3 for sure
I’ve had the same swirly star Mako3 in my bag for the last 3 years but the Mind Bender just kicked it out. The metal flake C-Line plastic feels great and the slight bit of extra glide puts the Mind Bender above the Mako3 for me
I have a lot of mids and absolutely love the Mind Bender, I have two.
First time viewer + new subscriber. You ever throw an MVP relay? Probably my favorite disc as of late!
Thanks for the sub! I threw it since I got it from pdga, hated it personally, but might give it another shot eventually!
Fair LOL
After those back to back jump putts maybe you should use a mid for out of circle looks!!
I've started putting with an infinite disc cohort for this exact effect.
Also recently played a comp with a guy who putted with a comet and he was getting perfect straight glide for long range putts.
I love the mind bender, put the mako3 up for it!
I bag a big z buzzz, opto fuse, and opto claymore as my mid range discs. I guess I need to try out the mind bender.
I warms my heart that you mentioned the Opto Claymore. It's a great disc. Mine was lighter than I wanted, but have been throwing a Lizottle Hex in this spot. I always feel guilty for having my Claymore in the closet
@@floovenspunkerthe claymore is underrated for sure. I never hear people mention it when talking about mids.
Personally I’d say the hex is the best straight flying mid range, you should try that one next
I love my hex, but the Mind Bender is more point and shoot. The Hex has a little bit of fade at the end. Mind Bender > Hex > Buzz SS > Mako3 IMO.
I enjoy the disc comparisons. Perhaps the next step beyond “which is the straightest/flippiest/longest/best of these 3 similar discs” is talking about shot selection or handling with 2 or 3 discs of the same class but with different flight profiles (e.g. fuse vs pyro vs buzz). Throw different lines depending on what the disc needs in the circumstances.
solid idea!
Anthony, curious what you think about the Mint Freetail. Understable 10 speed driver. I like it a lot.
Can u put the lines on ur videos so we can see flights better?
I've only been disc golfing for about 2 years now, but the Mako3 was one of my first discs, and I've since switched over to a bit of a Prodigy fanboy. But that said, I recently was gifted a Buzz from a friend so I thought I'd give it a shot. I've only thrown it for like 3 or 4 rounds, but I just don't like it, I think it's overhyped. My go to straight mid is currently the MX-3 or M4 (I didn't buy a brand new MX-3 so idk if they're straight flyers out of the box, but M4 definitely is!)
Star plastic mako3?
I use the same Sterilite containers for my discs. 👍
The best!
The Mind Bender is a near exact replica of the Mako3, and the differences between the two can pretty much be chalked up to cooling inconsistencies
This was a fun video
The buzzz is the #1 midrange of all time .
Fun channel. I recently played with the midnight prowl 2 and she’s a beast, hyzer to flat. What kind of camera do you use?
Im looking for a Hex vs. Mindbaneder... I simply cannot chose and would like for someone who has "broken them in" to make "down the line"-comparison
interesting! not sure if there's enough time to break them in since both are such nice plastics but I'd love to compare them at least!
Can we get a “Ball Don’t Scoreboard” TShirt made??? 😂
I’m bagging the mindbender and the buzz, but definitely like the mindebender better. On another note, where did you get your hat?
Buzz v Pathfinder v Hex PLEASE
How would a z meteor compare to the champion mako3 or esp buzzz ss?
I have only thrown an ESP meteor but I'd say it's more similar to the mako3 than the buzzz, but is flipper than the champ mako3, maybe more similar to a star, but the z meteor could be similar to the champ mako3
Man I was parking the holes at Frog Rock today with the z meteor.
Love my mind bender!
You obviously don't have to make yourself choose the disk that wins on paper. There are always factors that can't be seen that affect your decision on whether to bag something or not.
Hey this is Pulaski park in East Chicago/Hammond? I'm like 15 minutes away from here.... Some fun courses in the area are Rivers Edge in Munster, Lake Hills in Schereville (long tees), and Hidden Lake in Merriville (24 holes)
Pulaski park definitely has some easy holes, definitely a beginner level course even for someone as bad as me.
this was that course! I was in town for a day and got to play it! I played a tournament at hidden lake on the way in to chicago but am in cleveland now!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf yeah, kinda thought about that after i wrote this, figured this was recorded days ago.
I just don't like your sighs when you throw haha. Idk why but other than that great vid!
I feel like you shouldn't change your shot off the tee if you're trying to do a fair comparison but that's just me. I just want to say loving the videos and the mind bender replaced my mako3 such a good disc.
I agree, that's why I threw the same shot with every disc off every tee! Just some user error and disc variances (and the wind)
@@BodanzaDiscGolf maybe it's because I wanted the mind bender to win but hole 2 the mind bender shot was much different. Anyway keep up the great work can't wait for the next video
Haha yeah it was the same shot just didn’t engage my hips on the first forehand! Hard to redo every shot every time if I make a mistake so I tend to trust that the whole of the video will give a full picture even if I mess up! I too wanted the mind bender to win but I screwed myself over haha!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf I guess that's what I mean not that you aren't doing the same shots but more same power or nose angle or whatever
why not hex? and pathfinder...
Because I only have so much money and time right now lol! Going to compare the hex at least as well, pathfinder maybe but Apollo disc golf just did this video!!
I like my md3 personally but my mako 3 is growing on me
Kaxe Z!
Which grip do you guys use for your mind benders
Power grip personally everything for me
Want to trade that Mind bender for another one? I collect green discs with blue foil, I have a Yellow with Silver stamp, with the MVP open champion stamped on the back :D
sure, hmu on instagram!
Excellent material. Id love to see you get into some gyro. Try a MVP Reactor or Axiom Hex. You wont be dissapointed.
it is just latitude plastic. its the exact same thing as the new clear lucid plastic.
It's funny cuz I know I'm one of those comments LOL
Haha for sure!!!
San Marino Makos were the best ever made.... original mako. Not the mako 3
Ball don’t scoreboard…..😂
CrZtyal Z BuZZZ
Not BuZZZ ss
🤷🏻♂️
@@BodanzaDiscGolf will be more similar to those two. It seems to have more glide than than my ss. But not as flippy. Super straight flier with consistent fade at the end.
You might be releasing it flat but they’re stable disc… you’re putting a lot of torque on them so they’re just turning over