If I'm referring to these trains in terms of the entire family I generally call them by their product name of AT300, but any name'll do, and Super Javelin does sound like a decent name
Although the javelins are technically the super javelins because i don't know if these are faster than the javelins. Class 395s get to 100mph in the 70 second range
1:24 I have two words: Seat reservations I want to be able to get on a train, sit down or stand if it's busy, and get off at my stop, without having to faff around with booking a sear and finding it
LouieVlogs- AndGames I know a lot of train companies are retiring or getting rid of their trains due to lack of passenger numbers and loss of money from the Covid crisis. So not sure if they will get rid of existing trains and replace them with these javelins or the javelins will be put in storage until needed. I’ve heard XC trains could be withdrawing most of their 220 trains. Maybe they might get javelins? A lot depends on passenger numbers and people being afraid of getting Covid on public transport routes being cut and fewer services.
@@ELPaso1990TX Getting rid of trains because there's a temporary crisis (we already know it won't last forever) is plain dumb. Just put them in storage for now.
As with all Japanese-produced trains, these are very nice Tbf the Azuma name isn't really promotional, it probably comes from the Japanese tradition of giving express and high-speed services names, such as Nozomi, Hayabusa, Yamabiko, Hakutaka, Komachi, Tsubasa, etc. So this is more of an additional Japanese touch to the train character, a named express service in the UK.
Just realised, the reason 800s don't sound as loud as the 385s is because of the password saloon being separated by a door and probably is more sound proofed as a result.
2024 update: I've now done every single Hitachi 80x train in the UK, except for the Avanti West Coast 805, so I'll rank an opinion here: 800/802 (GWR): Nice green seats but the most uncomfortable of all 800/801 (LNER): Slightly more comfortable than the GWR ones with a nice red interior but still uncomfortable 802 (TPE): as above, except TPE interiors are blue rather than red (LNER) and green (GWR) 802 (Hull Trains): the best interior colours out of all 800/802s - the blue on them is very nice and elegant. But unfortunately just as uncomfortable as the other 800/802s at GWR, LNER and TPE 803 (Lumo) - the most comfortable of all the Hitachi 80Xs out there. Whilst not as comfortable as a 91+Mk4, still far more comfortable than other Hitachis
I didn't realise these were essentially all the same train! Clearly the branding worked on me. IET is the only name out of the three that doesn't make me wanna hurl
I really like these trains in some ways, it's only a shame they specified really uncomfortable seats for the earlier GWR, TPE, LNER and Hull trains ones, though the lumo ones and the Avanti west coast and EMR trains coming in the next few years should have better seats
There is a hybrid version used by GWR and Transpennine Express, with the Diesel engine being a generator that generated electricity to power the VF drives that move the train
These trains are awesome. But you should hear them on Diesel mode. They are MEGA LOUD. The class 385 by Hitachi is electric only, Goes 100mph, and is very much a commuter train. It accelerates mega fast and has an amazing VF drive. The best place to catch them, in my opinion, is Edinburgh Haymarket.
That's The Product AT200 (Communiter) I Wish The Hitachi AT200 Trains Could Be On South Western Railway, Great Western Railway, TFL Rail & London Northwestern Railway
I live in Bath and I find that the 166s and 158s on the Portsmouth to Cardiff and Gloucester, Westbury, Weymouth and Great Malvern routes that come through roar much louder than the 800/802s. It's a bit of a piss take that they just didn't finish the electrification beyond Chippenham and through Bath to Temple Meads. I've just realized that for one of the parts of the video he actually was in Bath where it's running on diesel mode and the sound of the electric motor is far more significant than that of the diesel engines
800's go 125, the 395's go 140 & run alongside Eurostar with international interchanges. Also that unneeded red tape along the Azuma brings away the charm of what previous operators had. you do the maths
Both can do 140MPH but 800s can only go 125MPH in public service, if an 800 was doing a HS1 service it would reach 140MPH like the 395, same manufacturer, same group of trains (AT300)
The LNER 800s will be enabled to do 140mph working some-what in the future, this will be happening when ETCS Phase 1 between London and south of Newark North Gate will be implemented.
I don’t find the IET’s bad to be honest. They are very good trains and especially the GWR ones are nice. The seats are a bit hard and uncomfortable. The VF actually sounds very nice and I like that weird ‘rrrrrr’ noise when it speeds up. I actually travelled on one of these up to wales and they’re not so bad and it’s quick. I don’t understand why some people like to complain about the material used for the exterior of the train. The design is brilliant and I can’t wait to travel on them again.
At least someone mentions the northeast. Normally, US commenters act like the northeast doesn't have high speed rail either. Anywho: it's progressing, but slowly. Florida has some high-speed trains now and they are currently adjusting the infrastructure and putting new rails down in order to get those trains running at full speed a few years from now. California is also building a new high-speed link. I agree more needs to be done, but at least a few states are taking it seriously now. You gotta start somewhere, right?
Well, now that I've been on one (a GWR class 800 to be precise) I can definitely confirm that the Hitachi IETs (aka AT300) are now one of my new favourite trains across the whole British rail network! Their acceleration is amazing, and can quickly reach 201 km/h (125 mph) in just about 10 to 15 minutes (or possibly even less!). I also love the fact that these are bi-mode, which means that they can finally, after so many years, eliminate long distance diesel working under the wires! This is amazing, a step forward to reducing carbon dioxide emissions! But of course there is still no excuse to stop electrification, and that should continue as usual. But still, a step forward in reducing pollution! The only thing I dislike about the 800s are the seats, they are a bit uncomfortable compared to other Intercity trains I travelled across the UK such as the Voyager 220/221 and the Pendolino 390. But even the seats were not as bad as I thought, and they are still a billion times better than those crap Thameslink 700 seats. Cross Country should seriously consider ordering class 800s to replace their awful and crap Voyagers (in my opinion the Voyagers are one of the worst trains in the whole of the UK). Cross Country, like with GWR, LNER etc. also have lines that run under the wires for long distances (such as from Birmingham to Manchester, or from Wakefield all the way up to Glasgow or Edinburgh!) and it disgusts me that they still run diesel units under electrical infrastructure for so long. Even more disgusting is that they have no plans to order any bi-mode units!!! For the HST/Intercity 125, I don't have a proper opinion yet as I haven't been on one, but being diesel units (I'm not a fan of diesel trains lol), I would agree with you that they are boring. They just don't appeal to me lol. But of course I will ride on one so I can have a proper opinion. EDIT: Just realised class 800s can do 0 to 201 km/h (125 mph) in just 4-5 minutes!
Gladly Beno Doesn't Like Siemens And The Thameslink Class 700s. Because The Seats On Thameslink Class 700 Are Rock Hard Earning Them Their Nickname "Ironing Board Seats"
Not sure how long they will last because a lot of train companies are retiring and withdrawing their trains due to the lack of business from the Covid crisis. A lot of the public will be still too afraid to use public transport for a long time.
What is "a lot"? I don't know any single train company that is doing that. In fact, quite a few of them are currently testing new trains, like Amtrak (US) and Arriva Netherlands and Dutch Railways (Netherlands).
@@benolifts oh I didn't realise the rules didn't apply to you. What part of "do not travel on public transport unless your journey is essential" is difficult to understand or simply doesn't apply to you.
I'm surprised you're not sad about the older HSTs going out of service - you can't slide the door windows open and poke your head outside on the 800/801s!
Agree with you about the train enthusiasts. They stuck in the old days. Can't see pass a loco. Always praising the HST, TIME TO MOVE ON, nothing lasts forever. Including you.
Dominic Findlay I’m not a train enthusiast but I know so many people including myself who think the IETs (or whatever you wanna call them) are shit! When I have to get from uni in Cornwall back home to East Anglia I DELIBERATELY book a ticket that means I don’t have to deal with an IET and those horrible seats for 5/5 and a half hours until I get to Exeter (2 and a half hours from London). The fact that a 150/158 which are only meant for regional journeys are actually comfier than an 802 says something! They’re heavily unreliable, they’re hyped up when they’re not that good (Give it to them on the acceleration) but main issue is comfort - if you’re going to be transporting people on long distance journeys and you can’t even get the seat right then you’ve failed from the word go!
Will Laird excuse me why is all the AT300 problems directed to me. I own none of these company’s. They are good trains but have some cons. Overall I still like the train.
@@willlaird9374 For this i will say, It's not the trains fault the seats are shit. That the government regulations for the how fire resistant they are. There should be a balance in my opinion.
Mate, just because some of us (including myself), enjoy some of the older stock, it doesn't mean we're stuck in the old days, or can't accept the fact these older models will retire with age. And though I agree with your point that nothing lasts forever, to knock folk for still liking HSTs is a bit harsh, they had a more dramatic startup (maybe not as efficient mind you), and iconic appearance that simply isn't matched by the AT-300s, at least not yet. In summary, I think that both trains have their places in and on the railway, but just because we praise HSTs doesn't mean we aren't accepting the benefits and realities of modern rolling stock.
I don't see anything wrong with the "Super Javelin" name, when I saw one of them for the 1st time my reaction was "oh a Javelin". What I don't like with most train enthusiast is their "old is gold, new is shit" mentality, and how they're stuck with certain train models. For example I get some hate from French railfans because I openly say I hate the Alstom TGV trains (except the Eurostar ones which sounds epic) and prefer the Siemens Velaro and Hitachi (Super) Javelin families. Anyway just like you I really like them (although never traveled on), wish continental train companies could buy them. Another extremely good train manufacturer is Stadler. A Swiss company, and their trains are well-known for their quality.
imaginox9 I like the trains but the seats are crap on the 395 and the 800s as they are made with no comfort. Also, there are a few seats in the train with no window whatsoever!
I really love these trains they are really epic but Hitachi being the best train manufacturer I personly disagree, the class 385 proformance is lacking it's slower than a class 365 and only slightly faster a class 320. And the class 380 blows the the 385 out of the water in preformence.
Alsthom are good at some things and bad at some things, The 465 is quite nice it's a 365 on third rail, like what the 365s used to be like But I agree with you with the Pendolino, very boring, No motor sound, compare the sound of a 390 to the sound of an EMU with VF drive, like the 323, 365 & the 465
The 390 does have a motor sound but a quiet one, unlike the Networkers, I prefer the 465 to the 390, but you have to agree the pendolino isn't too bad?
These trains have some nice looking interiours, pretty decent seats by the looks of it. The dutch railways are getting some new 200 km/h intercity trains but I wonder who built them. The last time it ended up a total fiasco with Ansaldo Breda. In my experience Alstrom are a mixed bag, their custom designs they did where allright but I really hate the Lint 41 diesel trains. They are so cheap and generic they can hardly be called trains, everytime I ride on of those to Zutphen when I go to like Arnhem or Nijmegen I feel like riding a bus on tracks. Their seets are especially horrible if you have to sit on them for more then 30 minutes🥶.
I agree that the Lint 41 trains are crap, but in general, I do like Alstom a lot better than Bombardier. I have yet to find any Bombardier train that I actually enjoy riding (their designs are usually nice, though).
@@imaginox9 Pretty sure it's Coradia Stream. we have them in Italy too known as Trenitalia Pop, and Denmark is also getting them soon to replace guess what... their most unreliable DMU
Great train I think... I will make one tiny remark about Transpennine Express... They're a dog load better than Northern Rail (equivalent to Southern Rail 😂🤣)
Beno no offense here but you shouldn't be traveling and making train videos. Travel is only for essential journeys and key workers only during this time.
@@harrystrains3227 Here is what I want to say to you: mind your own business. It's not a criminal offense to go outside, so let anyone decide for themselves.
the only reason train enthusiasts call Class 321's 'dustybins' is because there was a TV show called 321 dustybin. Just so you know.
Japanese train is great, with the right operation model, it could be even the best
If I'm referring to these trains in terms of the entire family I generally call them by their product name of AT300, but any name'll do, and Super Javelin does sound like a decent name
Although the javelins are technically the super javelins because i don't know if these are faster than the javelins. Class 395s get to 100mph in the 70 second range
That TPE livery looks quite cool, maybe more it'd be more fitting with yellow ends but I think that would clash with the rest of the livery a bit.
If you want to see a shit livery, look at Thameslink. I also think the TPE Livery looks cool too
Oh, and the 321's are called the "Dusty Bins" because of a character of the same name on the old gameshow "3-2-1".
0:34 LMFAO I COULDNT STOP LAUGHING LOL
I could.
@@NSE465 It was just funny to me "Or Alstom blllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Alstom are horrid"
1:24 I have two words:
Seat reservations
I want to be able to get on a train, sit down or stand if it's busy, and get off at my stop, without having to faff around with booking a sear and finding it
I heard that
East Midlands Railway
&
Avanti West Coast
Are getting trains like these!
LouieVlogs- AndGames I know a lot of train companies are retiring or getting rid of their trains due to lack of passenger numbers and loss of money from the Covid crisis. So not sure if they will get rid of existing trains and replace them with these javelins or the javelins will be put in storage until needed. I’ve heard XC trains could be withdrawing most of their 220 trains. Maybe they might get javelins? A lot depends on passenger numbers and people being afraid of getting Covid on public transport routes being cut and fewer services.
EMR are getting the class 810 trains not the 800
Avanti west coast are not getting any new trains for a while since the 390 are still fairly new
EMR will run 810 under the name EMR express
@@ELPaso1990TX Getting rid of trains because there's a temporary crisis (we already know it won't last forever) is plain dumb. Just put them in storage for now.
Okay, now I'm confused. Are EMR getting 800's, 804's or 810's.
The high speed train class 800's motor is similar at Millenium train's motor from Sydney trains in Australia
As with all Japanese-produced trains, these are very nice
Tbf the Azuma name isn't really promotional, it probably comes from the Japanese tradition of giving express and high-speed services names, such as Nozomi, Hayabusa, Yamabiko, Hakutaka, Komachi, Tsubasa, etc. So this is more of an additional Japanese touch to the train character, a named express service in the UK.
Recalled that the name originated from Virgin Trains East Coast back when the trains were still operated by them
Trams or trains and lifts and urbex great mix beno
The Horrible Thing That Happened To The Hitachi Trains.
They Were Taken Out Of Service Because Of Cracks Found In Them 😅. And It Caused Cancellations
Honestly the Stadler FLIRT trains in East Anglia are slightly better (albeit 100mph max), you should check them out!
They sound very familiar to the Keio 7000 series in Japan which uses a Hitachi VF drive too!
The 332(ex heathrow express) and the 333(northern) are nicknamed as fishbowls because they look like fishbowls
Great video. ☺️
Just realised, the reason 800s don't sound as loud as the 385s is because of the password saloon being separated by a door and probably is more sound proofed as a result.
I really like these trains but the seats are uncomfortable
Dont Focus On The Seats
@@emilianohaskurti9344 yes I know, the trains are amazing otherwise, much better than pendolinos or HSTs!
@@subwayexpress465 Yes
GWR & LNER Use Class 800
LNER Use Class 801
GWR, Transpeninne Express & Hull Trains Use Class 802
These trains are awesome!
Once Coronavirus is over I can't wait to ride on these.
2024 update: I've now done every single Hitachi 80x train in the UK, except for the Avanti West Coast 805, so I'll rank an opinion here:
800/802 (GWR): Nice green seats but the most uncomfortable of all
800/801 (LNER): Slightly more comfortable than the GWR ones with a nice red interior but still uncomfortable
802 (TPE): as above, except TPE interiors are blue rather than red (LNER) and green (GWR)
802 (Hull Trains): the best interior colours out of all 800/802s - the blue on them is very nice and elegant. But unfortunately just as uncomfortable as the other 800/802s at GWR, LNER and TPE
803 (Lumo) - the most comfortable of all the Hitachi 80Xs out there. Whilst not as comfortable as a 91+Mk4, still far more comfortable than other Hitachis
I went to Naples and the trashed train is gone😭😭
Nice video! I like it!
Beno what about the CAF class 397
I didn't realise these were essentially all the same train! Clearly the branding worked on me. IET is the only name out of the three that doesn't make me wanna hurl
Whenever I think of Hitachi I think of trains, lifts, and also Hard Drives.
LBSi UK Also TV cable boxes.
Hitachi makes anything including Televisions, Construction vehicles, Electrical appliances, Trains, Trams and so on.
@@Andrewjg_89 Sort of like Samsung. They made my phone and TV, and also built the Burj Khalifa.
@@lbsiuk samsung makes cars as well
Hitachi Also Made The Class 385 A-Train For ScotRail In 2019.
And Also Hitachi Made The 395 Javelin High Speed Trains. In 2007 Made It Go 140MPH
Nice VF drive!
Nice vid.
321=dusty bin (it’s a reference from a game show named 321)
I’m a train enthusiast I don’t find it annoying to call it a super javelin I think it works really well
How much does one cost
I really like these trains in some ways, it's only a shame they specified really uncomfortable seats for the earlier GWR, TPE, LNER and Hull trains ones, though the lumo ones and the Avanti west coast and EMR trains coming in the next few years should have better seats
3:35 that caught me off guard.
Is there a hybrid version of this train or a DMU version of this train? Or did i just imagine it
There is a hybrid version used by GWR and Transpennine Express, with the Diesel engine being a generator that generated electricity to power the VF drives that move the train
imaginox9 thanks for d info
All of them are hybrid technically apart from 801s which only really have an emergency engine in the front or rear coach
These trains are awesome. But you should hear them on Diesel mode. They are MEGA LOUD.
The class 385 by Hitachi is electric only, Goes 100mph, and is very much a commuter train. It accelerates mega fast and has an amazing VF drive. The best place to catch them, in my opinion, is Edinburgh Haymarket.
That's The Product AT200 (Communiter)
I Wish The Hitachi AT200 Trains Could Be On South Western Railway, Great Western Railway, TFL Rail & London Northwestern Railway
I live in Bath and I find that the 166s and 158s on the Portsmouth to Cardiff and Gloucester, Westbury, Weymouth and Great Malvern routes that come through roar much louder than the 800/802s. It's a bit of a piss take that they just didn't finish the electrification beyond Chippenham and through Bath to Temple Meads. I've just realized that for one of the parts of the video he actually was in Bath where it's running on diesel mode and the sound of the electric motor is far more significant than that of the diesel engines
0:45 I'm personally more of a Bombardier person
800's go 125, the 395's go 140 & run alongside Eurostar with international interchanges. Also that unneeded red tape along the Azuma brings away the charm of what previous operators had. you do the maths
800s TALAGA?!!
@@rsx-7973 what?
vanillasplash Can’t speak English that’s why.
Both can do 140MPH but 800s can only go 125MPH in public service, if an 800 was doing a HS1 service it would reach 140MPH like the 395, same manufacturer, same group of trains (AT300)
The LNER 800s will be enabled to do 140mph working some-what in the future, this will be happening when ETCS Phase 1 between London and south of Newark North Gate will be implemented.
I don’t find the IET’s bad to be honest. They are very good trains and especially the GWR ones are nice. The seats are a bit hard and uncomfortable. The VF actually sounds very nice and I like that weird ‘rrrrrr’ noise when it speeds up. I actually travelled on one of these up to wales and they’re not so bad and it’s quick. I don’t understand why some people like to complain about the material used for the exterior of the train. The design is brilliant and I can’t wait to travel on them again.
We Like The Hitachi Class 800. Its Just The Seats We Dont Like
the VVVF sounds same to E233-3000 to me
@@miahaskurti4539 the seats are actually quite decent with TPE. All their Novas have the same seats
@@drw-jd6tu Yeah
It looks really strange to me, trains without a yellow front, even if modern LED headlights mean you don't need warning panels.
The Siemens trains on the underground dont seem too bad. 🤔
There aren't any Siemens trains on the Tube.
Desiros are good
I like Siemens
PAALALA NG MGA OTORIDAD!
Those are bombardier i believe
Wish we had more of high speed rail in the USA and not exclusively in the Northeast but ik itll never happen sadly
At least someone mentions the northeast. Normally, US commenters act like the northeast doesn't have high speed rail either.
Anywho: it's progressing, but slowly. Florida has some high-speed trains now and they are currently adjusting the infrastructure and putting new rails down in order to get those trains running at full speed a few years from now. California is also building a new high-speed link.
I agree more needs to be done, but at least a few states are taking it seriously now. You gotta start somewhere, right?
America are getting the new liberty trains
@@OneKnifeYeHand Texas is also building a high speed rail line that resembles exactly like a Japenese Shinkansen line.
Fantastic video sorry I missed it
Well, now that I've been on one (a GWR class 800 to be precise) I can definitely confirm that the Hitachi IETs (aka AT300) are now one of my new favourite trains across the whole British rail network!
Their acceleration is amazing, and can quickly reach 201 km/h (125 mph) in just about 10 to 15 minutes (or possibly even less!). I also love the fact that these are bi-mode, which means that they can finally, after so many years, eliminate long distance diesel working under the wires! This is amazing, a step forward to reducing carbon dioxide emissions! But of course there is still no excuse to stop electrification, and that should continue as usual. But still, a step forward in reducing pollution!
The only thing I dislike about the 800s are the seats, they are a bit uncomfortable compared to other Intercity trains I travelled across the UK such as the Voyager 220/221 and the Pendolino 390. But even the seats were not as bad as I thought, and they are still a billion times better than those crap Thameslink 700 seats.
Cross Country should seriously consider ordering class 800s to replace their awful and crap Voyagers (in my opinion the Voyagers are one of the worst trains in the whole of the UK). Cross Country, like with GWR, LNER etc. also have lines that run under the wires for long distances (such as from Birmingham to Manchester, or from Wakefield all the way up to Glasgow or Edinburgh!) and it disgusts me that they still run diesel units under electrical infrastructure for so long. Even more disgusting is that they have no plans to order any bi-mode units!!!
For the HST/Intercity 125, I don't have a proper opinion yet as I haven't been on one, but being diesel units (I'm not a fan of diesel trains lol), I would agree with you that they are boring. They just don't appeal to me lol. But of course I will ride on one so I can have a proper opinion.
EDIT: Just realised class 800s can do 0 to 201 km/h (125 mph) in just 4-5 minutes!
I Love Class 800 Series Hitachi. Better Than Voyagers. The Seats On Them Are Hard Or Soft
387s And 700s Are Horrible
Gladly Beno Doesn't Like Siemens And The Thameslink Class 700s. Because The Seats On Thameslink Class 700 Are Rock Hard Earning Them Their Nickname "Ironing Board Seats"
@@miahaskurti4539 the 700s are a completely failure
@@gabrielstravels Yes
Hitachi Communiter. Most Trains In The UK Are Hitachi Intercity
What's the difference between the different class versions in terms of acceleration etc
Probs speed
Not sure how long they will last because a lot of train companies are retiring and withdrawing their trains due to the lack of business from the Covid crisis. A lot of the public will be still too afraid to use public transport for a long time.
What is "a lot"? I don't know any single train company that is doing that. In fact, quite a few of them are currently testing new trains, like Amtrak (US) and Arriva Netherlands and Dutch Railways (Netherlands).
Were u filiming it during covid19
Yes he was, because if you look the seats on the TPE trains have the seat labels saying “Do not sit here to maintain social distancing”.
Yes seems incredibly silly thing to do given the advice is clearly not to use public transport unless "essential"!
@@peterashcroft8058 It's essential train filming time while there are not many people about
@@benolifts oh I didn't realise the rules didn't apply to you. What part of "do not travel on public transport unless your journey is essential" is difficult to understand or simply doesn't apply to you.
ANYONE FOR POPCORN 🍿 ITS GETTING VERY SALTY 🧂🤣🤣🤣
I'm surprised you're not sad about the older HSTs going out of service - you can't slide the door windows open and poke your head outside on the 800/801s!
That's a good thing that they don't have windows that open on the doors, you could lose your head like what happened a few years ago
Yeah and on 442 I think
I just call this train family the 800
its called IET
Seats Are Nice. But Hard. They Are Not Like The Ironing Board Seats On Thameslink Class 700s
Agree with you about the train enthusiasts.
They stuck in the old days.
Can't see pass a loco.
Always praising the HST,
TIME TO MOVE ON, nothing lasts forever. Including you.
Dominic Findlay I know right. What has the train enthusiast community become!
Dominic Findlay I’m not a train enthusiast but I know so many people including myself who think the IETs (or whatever you wanna call them) are shit! When I have to get from uni in Cornwall back home to East Anglia I DELIBERATELY book a ticket that means I don’t have to deal with an IET and those horrible seats for 5/5 and a half hours until I get to Exeter (2 and a half hours from London). The fact that a 150/158 which are only meant for regional journeys are actually comfier than an 802 says something! They’re heavily unreliable, they’re hyped up when they’re not that good (Give it to them on the acceleration) but main issue is comfort - if you’re going to be transporting people on long distance journeys and you can’t even get the seat right then you’ve failed from the word go!
Will Laird excuse me why is all the AT300 problems directed to me. I own none of these company’s. They are good trains but have some cons. Overall I still like the train.
@@willlaird9374 For this i will say,
It's not the trains fault the seats are shit.
That the government regulations for the how fire resistant they are.
There should be a balance in my opinion.
Mate, just because some of us (including myself), enjoy some of the older stock, it doesn't mean we're stuck in the old days, or can't accept the fact these older models will retire with age. And though I agree with your point that nothing lasts forever, to knock folk for still liking HSTs is a bit harsh, they had a more dramatic startup (maybe not as efficient mind you), and iconic appearance that simply isn't matched by the AT-300s, at least not yet. In summary, I think that both trains have their places in and on the railway, but just because we praise HSTs doesn't mean we aren't accepting the benefits and realities of modern rolling stock.
Beno, have you tried the new Stadler DEMU bi-modal trains, yet? Isn't TPE part of First Group, owners of GWR?
By the way.. SHINKANSEN FOR HS2!!! 👍👍👍👍
Is shinkansen for HS2 confirmed?
@@ZLDSmogless No, I think there's a collaboration group supplying the trains but I would've preferred Shinkansen.
A few other places with great trains:
Montreal
Chicago
Tokyo
Chicago? Rly bruh?
I don't see anything wrong with the "Super Javelin" name, when I saw one of them for the 1st time my reaction was "oh a Javelin". What I don't like with most train enthusiast is their "old is gold, new is shit" mentality, and how they're stuck with certain train models. For example I get some hate from French railfans because I openly say I hate the Alstom TGV trains (except the Eurostar ones which sounds epic) and prefer the Siemens Velaro and Hitachi (Super) Javelin families. Anyway just like you I really like them (although never traveled on), wish continental train companies could buy them. Another extremely good train manufacturer is Stadler. A Swiss company, and their trains are well-known for their quality.
imaginox9
I like the trains but the seats are crap on the 395 and the 800s as they are made with no comfort. Also, there are a few seats in the train with no window whatsoever!
Beno did you hear that Alstom bought Bombardier’s rail transport division? That’s right, more nasty Alstom!
that's why i always search bombardier's rail transport division entire derby, and i only found alstom's rail transport division
I thought Alstom made the 95/96 Underground stock?
Alstom is basically the train version of stannah lifts, alstom used to make good trains but not anymore
@@franklinthebusdriver6387 oh.
HS1 Matches The Speed Of The Hitachi
I really love these trains they are really epic but Hitachi being the best train manufacturer I personly disagree, the class 385 proformance is lacking it's slower than a class 365 and only slightly faster a class 320. And the class 380 blows the the 385 out of the water in preformence.
They’re alright I suppose. Can’t ignore how uncomfortable they are. Still like Pendolinos more tbh
well is good at looking at class 800
You should do more of these videos
NGL I love the nova 1 it looks very nice in the livery and it’s better then a 185 bruh and why you calling tpe crap there amazing now
Super javelin??
Yeah I thought the same
That's just what Ben nicknames them.
Their official names depend on the operator, which Ben states is either "I.E.T" or "Azuma" in the video.
@@KaiokenBlueGT I call them the Shinkansen.
Alsthom are good at some things and bad at some things, The 465 is quite nice it's a 365 on third rail, like what the 365s used to be like
But I agree with you with the Pendolino, very boring, No motor sound, compare the sound of a 390 to the sound of an EMU with VF drive, like the 323, 365 & the 465
The 390 does have a motor sound but a quiet one, unlike the Networkers, I prefer the 465 to the 390, but you have to agree the pendolino isn't too bad?
@The secular humanist They are BREL and Metro Camel it just has Alstom parts
Im at Train Enthusiast and i would rather call it the Super Javelin than and IET or Azuma
Great train
These trains have some nice looking interiours, pretty decent seats by the looks of it. The dutch railways are getting some new 200 km/h intercity trains but I wonder who built them. The last time it ended up a total fiasco with Ansaldo Breda. In my experience Alstrom are a mixed bag, their custom designs they did where allright but I really hate the Lint 41 diesel trains. They are so cheap and generic they can hardly be called trains, everytime I ride on of those to Zutphen when I go to like Arnhem or Nijmegen I feel like riding a bus on tracks. Their seets are especially horrible if you have to sit on them for more then 30 minutes🥶.
The new NS "ICNG" trains are made by Alstom, they're from the Alstom Coradia Liner family
I agree that the Lint 41 trains are crap, but in general, I do like Alstom a lot better than Bombardier. I have yet to find any Bombardier train that I actually enjoy riding (their designs are usually nice, though).
@@imaginox9 Pretty sure it's Coradia Stream. we have them in Italy too known as Trenitalia Pop, and Denmark is also getting them soon to replace guess what... their most unreliable DMU
@@gabrielstravels Yes you're right, my bad
@@OneKnifeYeHand I LIKE BOMBARDIER THAN ALSTOM
2:00 ok zoomer
Great train I think... I will make one tiny remark about Transpennine Express... They're a dog load better than Northern Rail (equivalent to Southern Rail 😂🤣)
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@@Andrewjg_89 I think you replied to me by accident but totally agree 😂
Eeyeyyeyeyye I like class 390s... :(
I honestly call them plastic bullets
but some people call them as "crack train"
Transpennine call them novas
Yp Nova 1. And Hull Trains have called their Class 802 "Paragon".
I don’t live near hull
Does Preston still get transpennine
lemoncloud GT Yes
But it’s mainly Northern, Avanti West Coast and Crosscountry. You should go check out Nodrog’s channel he does trains in his area. ;)
Hey Austin this is guys
It’s funny how many people get pissed at u lol
hey javelin this is super
thought it said stupid power
Alstom. BLEEEEIGHHHHHH!! DIRTY Or Washing Liquid.
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Beno no offense here but you shouldn't be traveling and making train videos. Travel is only for essential journeys and key workers only during this time.
Does unofficial crane inspector count as a key worker?
He does what he likes. #DealWithIt
@@benolifts No that's just an excuse for going out. Here is what I want to say to you. Stay at home. Control the virus. And save lives
@@harrystrains3227 Here is what I want to say to you: mind your own business. It's not a criminal offense to go outside, so let anyone decide for themselves.
@@harrystrains3227 *Stay Alert, Control the virus, save lives* This was the shit Dominic Cummings came up with whilst breaking his own advice shut up
This isn't essential travel... Why disrespect the rules and put essential travelers at risk 🙄
6:33 social distancing measures suggest this was filmed during the do not travel period!
@@peterashcroft8058 Essential train filming
@@benolifts wrong. Iditotic and selfish.
Peter Ashcroft Unlike you LOL #Triggered 🤣🤣🤣
@@peterashcroft8058 Maybe he did those clips before the do not travel unnecessarily rule started or maybe he was going back home from somewhere
surf one i dare you
I want to!
Trespassing on railway can get you a fine of up to £1000
The seats are crap and they resemble an ironing board
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