Ep.235 The Rocna Anchor FAILS ⚓

[@shday1]

Love the little study on fish eating! Practical information that you won't easily find anywhere else!

[@peterfrebold]

..... good on you Peter .... growing up when eating chicken, as now, I would clean the bones completely and any one at the table would comment on the cleanliness ... as for fishing, tend to cook whole and then debone ... can not say that I suck out the eyeballs though .. laughing .... liked the clean up crew at the stern of the boat .... have fun be safe, save our oceans .....

[@SailingSteelSapphire]

Thanks for filming that Rocna test - was really interesting to see one of our theories confirmed. We have a 55kg Rocna (we weigh 32 tonnes!), and generally we're extremely happy with it. We're in SE Asia, so never anchor in grass, but we have had a couple of occasions where we dragged anchored in mud, and we speculated it was because the fluke had filled up so much it couldn't reset. It would be much harder to film this in muddy water, so it was great to see the same mechanism of action happening with seagrass.
As you said, it's hardly the type comprehensive test that purists would demand, but it does add to the body of evidence and knowledge out there, so thanks again.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

No worries. Check out Panope??? On UA-cam they have all the anchors tested

[@bockjess]

Thanks for the view of Rocna fail! Once that grass hits the rollbar it's done. A reversal isn't necessary, the grass turns it into a useless ball and it will not reset.
We swapped to a Sarca Excel after several grassy bottom dragging episodes. Mostly storm conditions and high wind however the deciding moment was waking up half a mile from where we anchored during calm conditions.
The Excel buries itself completely, shank and all, beneath a very grassy/sand bottom. After 9 months not one drag.
The Rocna is a good anchor but in that particular bottom its crap. I suspect other rollbar anchors would not be better.

[@roadboat9216]

I think, bang for the buck, Rocna is a good budget choice. I have had incredible luck with the Spade anchor. No hoop, curved and wedge shaped Shank for penetration, very heavy tip weight. No clogging issues. Super easy launch/retrieve. Loved San Blas. Spent a year there. Did a lot of diving. Wonderful people.

[@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ]

I like your thinking, Plucky, you're a good man.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Save that one and tell it to Margarida when she is next pissed with me. I need all the help I can get

[@kell7195]

The Rocna Vulcan one thats a newer model gets rid of the rollbar and has a spade type look to it, did really well on test channels, bloody hell Plukky you have me looking up hours of anchor test footage and I dont even have a boat 😂
One day 👌🏻

[@mikephillips9311]

The roll bar type anchors do clog up when resetting as you demonstrated. The numerous bolts on the Manson can also cause failures as they (the bolt heads) hold alot of mud & debri when resets are necessary. The best are Ultra & Spade anchors, no roll bar, they are unneeded with them due to design.

[@Garryck-1]

"The best are Ultra & Spade anchors"
Meh.. I'll stick to the SARCA Excel (as a secondary & weedy bottom anchor) and Super SARCA (as a primary anchor), thanks all the same. Nobody does anchors better than Aussies.

[@scotyfilms]

As a commercial fisherman for years you are right. For most rock fish the recovery rate is at least 50%. It's amazing how much fish you get out of a small rock fish when you cook it cleaned but whole. Good on you for telling it to the world.

[@Mr.Stacey-L-SCC]

Ha ha, "no injunction forthcoming" cracked me up!

[@csranch2000]

Good on ya mate. Liked how you broke down the fish and it's goodness. Thanks for sharing, great video.

[@marktragear4630]

A much different way to look at it !
A very good way and it’s something I will most definitely try.
Again thanks for your tips.
Love your channel !!!
# 1 !!!!!!
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
👍👍👍👍👍
And by the way I’m heading out for my first spear in the Gong next week.
I moved here 3 months ago and you have definitely given me the motivation to start exploring here.

[@chriscopeland1318]

I watch the channel because of your personality! Top stuff! Get a good dose of the plucky attitude! “Town meeting down there!” Damn that’s funny!

[@lawrencestark1944]

Your completely right. Ive got to quit wasting as well. Thank you for this information. Safe sailing

[@wjskyout]

Nice one Plukky. Entertaining and informative as always

[@aussiefarmer6012]

Don't listen to the nay sayers, you are doing a terrific job as usual with the vids.

[@luis00903]

a natural comedian.. nice vid !!

[@scarface-39]

👍 Peetah that fish looks good!! Good on ya to eat everything possible!! Top stuff😁

[@rebelmusikworldwide9749]

here in jamaica we call him Peetah de plukkah lol

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

I like that better than Peter de mudda fu_ _ a

[@blok5555]

top stuff!!

[@scarface-39]

SAILING into FREEDOM 😂😂👊

[@robertlemoine3500]

Another fine program, Thankyou Plukky.

[@Garryck-1]

Saw the demonstration about not wasting fish, subbed!

[@22alisaxni]

The anchor holds 100% in sandy bottom,

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Thanks for the confirmation...no sponsorship here I am afraid, nobody wants us ha! Probably a good reason for that, but we try

[@steal0119]

Great stuff! Bees make honey . They must be near by making honey! Now they are telling their friends about you!!

[@debralivingston7298]

Liked this video. Keep them coming plucky! It's all you guys out there asking when Margaritas coming back, donate some money so she don't have to be working!

[@flygoodwin]

Thank you very much for the anchor test. Cheers...

[@gilbertstuff]

Outstanding usage of the fish! Cheers to you!

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

And to you

[@user-zd7fi1fh6r]

Bravo! Consume wisely and thankfully. This is our home, this Earth.

[@stevecrombie5357]

Cool. Enjoyed the experiment.

[@georgekot6377]

To avoid repeating myself I'll just say this to you ...... RESPECT !

[@whileysea]

Hi, Great Test. And all about Harpuning and Fish smkoking too.

[@RusstafaB]

Wow that was a good test on the Rocna thanks.
Looked like a nice fish supper to top it all off.

[@rebelmusikworldwide9749]

good nutritional value.. most of us jamaicans love de roasted and steam fish, but de head and tail is what we really like. the eyeballs, you forgot the eyeballs. fish head soup is good with the vegetables. ive never eaten a rotten breadfruit.. here we roast it.. good vibz blog man.

[@patrickcoleman3]

Pretty sure he said he sucked the eye balls out .🙌

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

I always eat the eyeballs but the trick is not to cook them, just warm them a bit and they are supersweet and sticky

[@aquavitasailing2855]

Thanks for making me feel good about my Spade! :-)

[@roadboat9216]

Spade is the best!

[@OHFORPEATSAKES]

I've noticed the same problem. In sticky mud the roll-bar fills up with mud. If it needs to reset it will not. Other than that a great anchor but overall I liked my Delta better.

[@user-rg2kk7fv4m]

Thank was interesting about the wastage.....thanks mate!! 🇳🇿🇦🇺

[@randalltapp8944]

Good science Plukky. Even if you use the head and frame to make a super healthy stock for a bouillabaisse, its better than wasting it. Great show!

[@TheBigWWI]

We boil the carcass and make fish soup. Delicious!

[@KarlKarsnark]

I'm veggie myself these days, but good on ya mate for eating the carcasses. Here in FL, grouper cheeks and throats are a true delicacy. Cheers!

[@izikalvo5627]

large roll bar radius and smooth fluke surface prevent weeds from clogging.

[@webheadusa9377]

I'm a city boy with no fishing at all. But I recognize your intent to waste not. So I give you credit. :¬) Webhead USA

[@SailingKnotShore]

Thanks for the Rocna video, I have used mine in 30-40 mph winds with no issues... but not in weeds... mud and sand... good info to know! Thanks! (new subscriber now!)

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Your welcome.

[@xabeque8]

A very good analysis. My wife is Chinese and most Asians grow up knowing how to devour a fish - it's just amazing what little is left after they've processed all the bones etc. Not the prettiest of sights though....! 🤓

[@benthiry9865]

Excellent! learned some today. cheers from snowy Canada

[@voyagerpalms1537]

Great episode mate Cheers 🍻

[@roughas100]

Totally agree with not wasting the fish frames , I only keep the head and wings though , wrap them in foil and put them in hot sand in the fire , the fillets I'll put in the 12v fridge .

[@johnhopkins6731]

Way to go illustrating the fish waste. Maybe people would find it more appetizing to make soup from the non-fillet remains?

[@shanekonarson]

I’ve got a Rocna Vulcan , it holds well . I think for weeds this old fashioned Fisherman’s anchors are tried and tested. That’s all people on flinders and king island use . In regards to eating as much of the fish as possible, I agree , and I have eaten fish like that for years , but another thing to consider especially with sea food is , fish love eating other fish , so is it really waste ? Even at home my fish carcasses go into the worm farm and end up plant food . What your doing is highly sustainable, but Don’t invite Greta on to the boat I don’t think she’ll dig eating grouper 😂

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

The trouble is that it is an excuse to shoot huge fish and they are excellent breeders, why do that when there is plenty on a fish that is less than half the size.....and its tastier too ...there will be a point when there are no fish left

[@shanekonarson]

SAILING into FREEDOM fair call . Probably why Asian folks make Fish cakes out of most of their catch’s. Or soup . I always follow the Given specs by the fisheries people. There’s plenty that folks don’t like catching either . Spearing a bit different I suppose. Can’t throw em back , more skill envolved and positive ID is very important.

[@derricklara6158]

good onya lad... its a little grass, itll grow back, at least we know the anchor . man we roast breadfruit here in jamaica, never had it like that.

[@sukirmanbairiswan]

Derrick lara great in Singapore we either slice it and salt fry them or dip them in rice flour batter and fry them either way it’s finger linkin good its natural.

[@craigme2583]

Good test. My skilled couch sailing abilities tells me it's a bit small. The anchor...Also applying my couch engineering skills in nearly fell out of said highly skilled couch looking at your rigging in the bread fruit clips. Hmmm, I shiver in my couch, scary thoughts of late night mast collapses. Good thing my couch mast is well attached. And when is Ms M returning? Not that your quality productions are at all lacking, but...and thanks for the first date tip! Keep the advice coming, I'm taking notes from the master...appreciate the 1080/60 btw

[@wesrichards6168]

Excellent vid, comments on germs and germaphobe's is spot on.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Thanks Wes

[@jascan1489]

Awesome vid brother. Researching anchors and found it. Right on

[@intrepidnomads]

Hey Peter, Good on ya for not being wasteful. After removing the fillets, we like to throw the carcass in a pot and make a meaty soup stock. Takes a while to pick out the fins, bones etc. (a sieve helps) but toss in a few veggies, let it boil then return the flesh to the pot just before serving. Damn fine eating!! Maybe better in a cooler climate than in the tropics though. Like your smoker. Think we'll replicate that someday. Cheers!!!

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Yeah I don't like waste at all abd besides, the meat is fattier and juicier near the most bones so its tastier

[@thenarrator1984]

totally with you peter our ideals are so aligned.

[@braithmiller]

Fine testing of iron and fish. Respect is certainly not wasting. Expect the rays are looking for disturbed food.
Stumbled on an an old one, lots here.

[@whereswaldo1191]

The Rockna without the hoop is a Vulcan. I bought a Vulcan 33kg for a Schionning 1480. It has always set 1st go and not dragged yet. The boat fluffs around on anchor more than most though, sailing all over the place with the breeze rather than the tide. I don't usually see weed that thick.

[@xabeque8]

I will attest to the Vulcan. I have a 25kg Vulcan on a 42ft trawler. Sets quickly and never had a problem. Yes that hoop must be an issue if you reset a few times. I have also heard good things about the Mantus and Spade and they are sponsoring a few sailing channels.

[@garysouza2277]

@@xabeque8 Got a S100 Spade on a 35' sailboat. Never have a problem with dragging, failure to set. Love my Spade

[@milkoberben2963]

When is Margarida coming back plukky

[@glenngutshall5507]

why does she keep ditching him?

[@wesrichards6168]

@@glenngutshall5507 Small boat, people need time apart.

[@andrewthompson2380]

Very interesting

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Thankss Andrew

[@richardnwilson]

Checkout SV Panope on UA-cam for an unbelievably exhaustive unbiased testing sequence of about 50 videos on anchor performance! A dozen different anchors tested in a controlled way in many different bottom conditions. It is truly a service to yachtsman that everyone with a boat should watch! I have never seen any other testing even comes close.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Wow good on them

[@lightning9279]

Someone was seriously bored.
Loved it!

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Mainly to see the weed problem...and there it was first go

[@maddogmaz1576]

So the weakness is grassy bottom. so just use good judgement when anchoring

[@leenickell]

You are correct about the waste. But the problem is overpopulating. Those inconsiderate people having children and taxing our resources. Then the governments and religions promoting the people to populating. To build a bigger flock to be fleece later.
Like China, then people are forced to work at a dollar a day.
Or like North Korea, then force to learn how to live without eating.

[@timinwsac]

Thank you professor Plukky. One question..... will there be a test next week?

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Too bloody right

[@timinwsac]

@@SAILINGintoFREEDOM
Dang I knew I should'a taken notes.

[@daveamies5031]

You would probably enjoy Singapore's national dish (fish head curry), great video BTW.👍🏼

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Top stuff mate

[@ssmith5650]

completely agree on the bees !!!!!!!!! gotta try that bread fruit next time

[@jimengr]

Good video. Interesting facts.

[@BS-nt9oc]

What was in the turquoise cups, hope rum haha. Hearing a lot of good things about Jack fruit. I’m getting some.

[@cnc75adventures49]

Awesome as little waste as possible 👍👍

[@vinceperkushin3008]

I love the videos Peter, keep going!!!

[@azartanchors]

Great video!

[@lesabre1972]

to easy but at least you have plenty of food for the time being.

[@martijngottgens6417]

In spain its forbidden to anchor in the seaweed/gras. Just look for sandy patches....

[@edwardwerthner7717]

Good one , happy to be alone yeah

[@funnystuff9998]

Is it ok to use this anchor whilst on weed? Asking for a friend.

[@AceDude944]

You can make a fish broth with all of your scraps.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

You can indeed and its way easier

[@AceDude944]

@@SAILINGintoFREEDOM Fish "bone broth" would extract healthy fats, protein(collagen) and minerals that remain in the "inedible" parts. Most whole meats I consume are "bone-in" cuts and I make bone broth out of the scraps(beef/chicken/turkey/fish/lamb).

[@MrMeriloto]

@12:55 if only more people would have this primal consideration on the animals we consume!! It's all about efficiency and maximising the utilisation of resources, zero waste is the good waste!! In fact, the bones and skin would be no waste as they'd be consumed by other animals!!!

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Others argue that when they fillet, they throw the carcass overboard and it gets consumed...the trouble with that argument is they need to get more fish for the same quantity of value...

[@MrMeriloto]

@@SAILINGintoFREEDOM Hello Peter, much appreciated your reply.
The argument of leftovers /carcass utilization by another organism in the food web utterly disregards the simple concept of Return On Investment (as you quantitatively proved in the video). Throwing away a percentage of food imposes the need for catching another fish, therefore wasting energy and time in the process. Furthermore, not even the consideration of market price makes sense, e.g. sharks have been massively overfished due to demand of their fins for the SE Asian market, where the whole shark was thrown away and only the fins were considered of value. From the environmental or ecological point of view this is atrocious, but certainly it's economically stupid.
I'd be up for the challenge to compete with Margarida about leaving the fish bone perfectly clean, that's how my parents taught me: No waste!! (inland, after chopping the bones the cats would make good use of it or as fertiliser for the trees)
Regards from NW Spain /
Saudações da Galiza

[@HansQuistorff]

The sweet meat around the fins is true. Growing up the fish was always cooked whole unless smoked then it was felit but only on one side which we would eat first , the side with the bones would keep longer. If the scales were scraped off before cooking we ate the skin.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Wooohooo, there are people out there that were brought up right or have common sense. Thanks for the comment

[@sukirmanbairiswan]

You’re right the eyes are d best...

[@tracyraley4003]

Good one. Very interesting .

[@catamaranseapearl]

Bon appétit. Tu es un tres bon chasseur.. mon ami

[@lotophagi711]

Cant believe you tossed the liver away - best bit.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

I Didn't. I threw the guts and gills and smoked the liver

[@joebloggs5693]

Hi Peter
Just a heads up on healthy eco friendly eating - If you do your research you will discover that smoking your food imparts a substantial level of carcinogens (all in that smoke) to your food - cooking with a "clean" heat is safer. If you had a blender on board you could make healthy eco friendly fish cakes with no "fried chips" - - Blend your fish carcass with approx. 35% flesh as you have worked out, in a blender (I have one on board), to a peanut butter consistency - boil your potatoes and mash them into to the "fish paste" you have created the add some caramelised onions, salt and any herbs you like, then pan fry them and .......voila tasty fish cakes - (with plenty of calcium). You can add other chopped up veges if you like.
All meant as a positive comment

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Good on you Joe. If I had a house or a decent boat and gear it would be on the table. Blending is an issue on myboat, not enough amps and the smoking keeps the fish going for 3 days without a fridge so its a necessary evil for us.

[@davidd3377]

Bees are on almost all veggies and fruit pollinating it .

[@maxmillion4216]

An eye for an eye plukky

[@VeleiroBarbaNegra]

We’ve got the same, once it hits possidonia Rockna doesn’t have a chance… looking for another kind now…😢

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

The trick is to avoid the grass

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

More people should snorkel their anchor spots

[@philgray1023]

You mustn't be on Pete Smith's Christmas card list. Swap you a Hydrabubble anchor for your Rocna. I had a CQR which was crap at anchoring in 4 litre paint tins, which some kind soul has deposited en-masse in the only anchorage in the Newry Islands.

[@darwindarwin141]

Plukky have you swapped margarida for a mantus supreme ? .......if not do you want to ? I’ve got 50 mtr of 10 mm chain too

[@rebelmusikworldwide9749]

your not right...lol

[@netpackrat]

Did you just offer to trade a new anchor and chain for the old ball and chain he managed to salvage off his old boat? 8^P 8^D

[@defel1]

Good one.

[@Bakanelli]

It’s problematic because flukes form an angle in which mud od grass packs up and Rocna fails

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Just need to be aware

[@MrRourk]

They thought the Rocna was one of them.

[@chrisgrill6302]

I really doubt that there is a practical solution for anchoring in weeds - once any anchor is clogged around the shaft it will be unable to dig in. The only helpful trick would be for the anchor not to drag far enough to become clogged in the first place - an oversized anchor. I've considered sharpening the leading edge of the shaft so it might cut through the mass of weed... but I doubt it would work well enough to justify the difficulty it would create for handling the anchor. There's some places like the anchorage at Isla Mujeres where nothing works!

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

You are correct

[@1sheinz]

I always prefer to bake or barbi my fish sealed in foil with butter and spices, all thats's left is the spine with bones attached and whats left of the head after the cheeks and eyeball have been enjoyed. Respect pee pole, haha. CHEERS AND FAIR WINDS Steve h.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Good on you Steve H. Respect

[@robinbrown7028]

Good on ya Plucky telling your respect and thanks for your catch no waste . I think the Rocnas overrated. No perfect Anchor.

[@hymanocohann2698]

The perfect anchor is fear.

[@robinbrown7028]

@@hymanocohann2698 The Perfect Anchor 'Landlubbers with Wifi.'

[@micheldawes1]

(@2:50) I reckon a lot of it has to do with your attitude as well. I’ve helped a girlfriend tend a couple of her hives before and she admitted before we started that she was a bit nervous about me getting stung. Because she was a bit nervous, she was the one who got stung, whilst I was not even a bit stressed and the bees seemed to accept me without hesitation. It’s similar with dogs - if you’re frightened of them, the most placid little lap dog will suddenly become a killer attack dog....

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Probably true too....I also think people tend to put the boogey man into too many things...bees are just one, sharks get a bad rap too and many others

[@micheldawes1]

Yes! There’s some fascinating stuff on the net about interactions with sharks (Google Delores the Tiger shark!) I hope it doesn’t sound arrogant, but I think I’m fortunate enough to intuitively “Get” most animals (Sharks, dogs, birds) because I seem to be pretty transparent and non threatening to most... ;-)

[@braithmiller]

They actually smell the person in fear, then a swatting attempt. Doing bee removal for years bystanders get stung when I am not.

[@SailingCorina]

If Cannibals ever eat me, I hope they don't waste my eyeballs, brain and innards. 👍

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Damn tooting, sweet breads on tiny biscuits unless you have big kahunas and then they go on family pizza size...

[@garysouza2277]

I'd never have an anchor with a roll bar. If you gave me a free Rocna, I'd sell it and buy a Spade or Excel...

[@philgray1023]

I'll swap you a hydrobubble anchor for Rocna if you get one as a gift.

[@budthebusker]

Go the Sarca Excel !!!!

[@professormoptop]

Mantus m2 all day

[@gaflaview6476]

Good !

[@brentfriedland]

That is a fine furrow to plant some rice. Let me know when you find a salt water rice.

[@Garryck-1]

Hey.. you recorded your results. So that makes it officially Science. The only difference between screwing around, and doing science, is if you write things down.

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

I think I need to be a scientist to do science

[@fredio54]

It's refreshing to see a sailing lifestyle channel that isn't mainly about the skippers bikini clad missus wandering around jiggling "spontaneously" in front of the camera. The only complaint is the swimming past the camera scenes are clearly preconceived and setup in advance and then swum. Meh it makes for good watching, but you must have the patience of a saint to bother with it :-D Good work on the efficient eating of the fish.

[@2Moza]

One would Hope that a ROCNA Sale's Company , Person would Contact you and Thank you for the R and D that you gave them and also might like you to do some more Testing on what they have put on the Market as there Research has Failed Big Time to identify this or they just don't Care??????? Awesome Job Mate wonder what would happen if someone lost there Boat to a failed Rocna Anchor. But how many Chips were Left after each Meal :)

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

None

[@stanRmeyer]

What about Ultra anchor it's supposed to continuously dig deeper and deeper and deeper and not just plow through the surface?

[@SAILINGintoFREEDOM]

Its the change in direction that is the killer