The Mario Movie Is Strange (Review)
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The pacing in this movie is criminal, some scenes and transitions felt just like video game cutscenes. But omg the theater experience of seeing this movie with kids cheering during Mario and Bowsers fight and hearing all the iconic sound effects just really hit my nostalgia bias bone just right. It was definitely a Mario movie
Yeah they rushed past so many potential moments between characters
The fact that kids were cheering just goes to show that Illumination knows exactly what they are doing. Adult critics can say what they want about Illumination movies, the pacing and the silliness, but kids are the only critic they really care about.
@@darkwingduck3477 I was worried that this film was going to be directed by the same guy's who did Teen Titians Go. Of course It's not as bad as Teen Titians Go because Nintendo is involved. Still the story may not be that great ether.
@@darkwingduck3477 you mean their parents money is all they care about
@@darkwingduck3477 by that logic you can argue that elsagate UA-cam channels are quality entertainment for children since kids love watching them
this opening night was filled with kids being loud but it was fun and I was honestly getting hype to even stay in Brooklyn
Not only were kids loud but also someone lost something and they were standing and shining flashlights everywhere ;/
Personally, being in a theater with a bunch of loud kids sounds like the worst theater experience ever.
weirdly enough (Maybe its cause i was in Dolby Cinema) but my theatre was 90% adults
@@RareCinephile it really is. Kids are very annoying
My theater had only adults lol
“A severe lack of Yoshi” is something I never knew I related to so hard.
He was in the end credits hatching.
@@cmooreHDthere was also a bunch of Yoshi's running during the jungle Mario kart scene
During the directs, notice how Miyamoto describes the film. He would call it “fun” all the time but fall short of any more praise. And it was a fun experiences as someone who is quite into Mario
I think they played it safe for Nintendo as well. With how skittish they've been with their properties I think Illumation was pulling off one hell of a tightrope walk
Or more likely he just simply works for Nintendo, and created Mario, and isn't about to shit on a unreleased product of theirs...
Miyamoto is the same guy that ruined Paper Mario.
@@pacoramon9468 He really did ruin Paper Mario. So much character and he nerfed it.
Miyamoto did not direct the last 3 Paper Mario games.
I know The LEGO Movie set the bar pretty high that movies based on established properties could make super engaging stories with thoughtful messaging and unexpected twists, but I didn't expect anything ubt silly fun from a Mario Movie, and if that's what they did, I'm happy to hear.
I definitely got a Lego movie vibe while watching!
Puss and Boots the last wish is a sequel to an 11 year old spin-off movie, that barely anyone remembered. Cobra kai is a sequel series to a franchise that declined after it's first movie. Actually expecting a worthwhile story, from the franchise that brought us the video game movie curse should be the norm not the exception. If parallel universes were a thing, we would definitely have some universes where that first mario movie was great and Superman the movie sucked.
Well I guess just how Mario games are unexpected and have wonderful twists/out-of-the-box ideas through gameplay maybe the movie could’ve done the same in writing while being true to the character.
@@pond0479 True! Nothing wrong with having expectations for a movie
They could but they have chosen not to. They played it safe and they preferred to have a bit 90 minutes add running in theatres. That's what it actually is a nice looking 90 mins add on Mario games.
I usually hate long movies but this movie needed another 30 to 45 minutes for character development.
Idk I felt like it’s Mario we know the characters and their intentions
It’s a fucking Mario movie
@@Sigmamale1289 and people still walked out bored and wanting more. Imagine failing at a Mario Movie that much
Go play the games bruh
I honestly wish they were given more time and material. There's just so much you could craft in this world.
I think this is just the beginning a small taste of like a potential cinematic universe for Nintendo
@@boxman5381 All they need to do is pace themselves and develop structure.
I mean, its only the first..
I wish it was given to a compitent studio and not Illumination
This is the first movie of course it’ll have early installment weirdness. That’s what sequels are for
I literally went out of rhe thestre and said: "it shows miyamoto co-directed it"
Miyamoto who has always been flat out against complex stories in mario games
Never will forgive Miyamoto for what happened to the Paper Mario series
@@WaterDog1502 Sounds like cope. Miyamoto didn't direct he produced. And it's a myth that Miyamoto tanked the paper Mario series. It wasn't Miyamoto... it was intelligent systems who ultimately made the newer games bad.
@@hairyballs089 It feel like Nintendo or Intelligent Systems had to add gimmicks for the sake of standing out or just to take advantage of the modern hardware in a way that couldn't be done in the first two games.
I recommend Bug Fable, It's very similar to Paper Mario.
@@hairyballs089 Miyamoto has also worked as advisor, and him being a producer lets him have certain liberties in the production of games because ever since Ocarina of Time wrapped up development he's worked as a sort of middle man between Nintendo's higher ups and the developers. People like Yoshiaki Koizumi or Kensuke Tanabe have talked about how Miyamoto prohibits certain things from being in Mario games. And honestly you can't blame him, Mario is Miyamoto's creation. Though, again, it was George Lucas who created the prequels and those have their issues too, so, who knows.
Is that even true, because there are many people disputing it
This man really owned a Wii U that’s how u know he’s a real Mario fan. Respect.
Yes not like those fans who’ve actively chose to skip out on the Wii U only to feel regret 🗿
Eccept that literally every mario game you can play on wii u (excluding the stupid mini mario ones, mario party 10) can be played on switch?
Owning a WiiU is one of my biggest regrets 😭
@@carlosemilio5180 it’s much easier for newcomers to come play it, that’s for sure
@@sketchycat6223 Why?
Honestly I really liked the scenes that were in Brooklyn and whatnot. Really wish there was a 2D Mario game that had a theme like a construction site like the 1-1 remake in the movie.
New Donk was fun but I think the frantic 2D sidescrolling of it lent itself well to the sequence.
EDIT: Everyone saying Wrecking Crew and the original SMB is 100% right by the way, I just mean more like I wish they retread those old grounds in a new game. All these Goombas and Koopas and we don't even have those funny crab enemies from the first game (whose...name escapes me atm)??
There WAS the wrecking crew, which was about Spike and his Lackeys who did puzzles based around smashing down all the walls of a floor, but dassit for nintendo construction games that aren't mario maker.
i was thinking that nintendo could take a LOT of things from this film as gimmicks for their next generation of games. Think the villain karts during the rainbow road scene or the jet ski segments for mario kart 9.
A next-gen 2d mario game that takes inspiration from those floating platform scenes with twists and turns while still being side-scrolling, or that uses that highly detailed Brooklyn aesthetic for a certain world, would be really cool. There hasn't been a 2.5d game in the series yet, has there?
There is this game that came out in the 80s, maybe you have heard of it, it’s called “Super Mario Bros”, it’s about Mario and Luigi in a city trying to fix the plumbing and is 2d
Sidesteppers
@@BobisOnlyBob Sidesteppers!! I knew it was something like that. Funny crabs!
Thank you for reminding me
This big problem with Chris Pratt and Anya Tailor-Joy is that neither are professional-grade voice actors. Yes, they can inject the proper emotion into their voices, but they can't vocally play any role besides themselves.
I really hate how Hollywood keeps casting celebrities in important voice acting roles. Like, at least put some effort on it and encourage them to get training.
The movie teases character development but doesn’t give enough time to explore it. They imply peach is lonely as the only human in the mushroom kingdom but they only give a few lines to that. Mario is implied to take Luigi for granted and has a bit of a napoleon complex, but again not really explored.
i mean it was fun and people in the theater were really excited and committed so it really worked for me, also i believe it took some risks (bowser says kill/die/rip apart like a bunch of times and mario gets the shit beat out of him so that's fun and new)
Have you ever played a paper mario, or the mario and luigi rpg games?
@@prizmovr8817 Never saw Mario with a black eye in those.
Bowser was SUPER violent in this movie, which I absolutely love and did not see something like it come from Illumination
In the games, I die or fall off platforms a lot as Mario. I know the game over sound well too much. I keep trying and beat the level. It was cool and funny they added that same struggle in the movie.
@@justpotato8119 yea i love that
if you noticed bowser is always serious but tends to be funny, so i honestly think he's my favourite villian of the year for actually being terrifying if you remove all the funny scenes
One of my personal issues with the movie was the pacing everything felt way to quick but the rest of the movie was decent it wasn’t meant to be a movie to break the animation industry but hey it’s a decent time 7/10
Would have been perfect to see Mario kiss Peach.
Not Peach on the cheek like in videogames but on the mouth.
Otherwise, it was nice.
@@ManuelV.S. bro really wanted to see that action
You can tell they wanted to keep it brief for the kids. The target audience of the movie doesn’t do too well after 90 minutes. Tis a shame cause it’d be cool to see it fleshed out a bit more, agreed
@@prodsillymonkey
Fuck yeah. Mario deserves it after obliterating the Koopa army again and again.
If he won't do it I'll do it myself.
@@ManuelV.S. nah bro tf you mean you’ll do it yourself 😭
My only issue was the trailers kinda showed too much and they should’ve kept fire peach and dk as surprises
True
same
DK i can see what you mean, but fire peach was lowkey a little insignificant because she only uses it to light a campfire.
Thats why I always try yo skip teasers and trailers
Illumination try not to show every interesting moment in the trailers challenge
Voicing Mario was always gonna be a tricky thing considering Mario is pretty much a silent protagonist for most of his games. The only sounds he ever makes are just wahoos and yahs.
I think a silent or almost silent protagonist would be really interesting to watch! We'd know how he feels with just character acting, his actions and his expressions. I'd actually love to see something like that with Mario.
@@leyvadira Fun Fact: Mario was inspired by Popeye.
He also says Let's a go, Adupabapotato, Luigi, Mama Mia.
@@leyvadira He was also a shapeshifter in Legend of the Seven Stars.
@@leyvadira maybe that’s a good idea for a Kirby movie
Generally agree with this take. I just wanna add: I don't really get the argument against having Mario's voice be his usual one. "It'd be annoying to hear for 90 minutes", "emotional scenes wouldn't work"... A Goofy Movie is right there! I *know* a character can have a funny voice or accent and be executed so well that some scenes make me cry if the acting and story are good!
Also, if his usual voice is really that distracting for some people, I personally would love to have Mario be a silent/almost silent protagonist that we can understand through his actions, character acting and facial expressions. I think that'd be really cool and interesting to watch in a movie.
I'm pretty sure I heard on another comment that Martinet's voice also gets very tired after doing that voice for a while, so he may have personally opted out of the voicing. Idk man.
Nintendo is hypocritical. They create a cartoony goofy character and then make a movie with it as if it´s a straight guy with no quirks.
@@Dipped1234 They never would've given the role to Martinet. There just isn't a universe where they even consider that for a moment. You can't put Martinet on a movie poster. They wanted a well known top billing star to head the movie, and Chris Pratt naturally fit. Not only is he well known but he starred in one of the best modern children's animated movies of the last 20 years. Was he just the best choice? Well...
@Monte That's always a stupid idea for an animated movie, nobody cares about who the voice is, all that is on screen is a fictional cartoon character not a real person who needs to emote. The movie itself is what is heading the movie's money not the actor's name (not to mention even dumber considering they would be more expensive and a waste if movie bombs hard). Plenty of times we have Halo Chief or Mandolorian that proves its never who's behind the voice but what the characters represent as a whole.
@@monte4503 That's just depressing... I want the voice actor with experience and love for the character that's been doing it for years, not a random celebrity casted without any reasoning beyond making money.
They should’ve made the movie like 25 mins longer in my opinion
To add what?
@@edeliteedelite1961 an actual story
They really could’ve did so much more, there were flashes of greatness throughout it but I just wish they took it further. The Luma star was unexpectedly harrowing for a kids movie which I thought was hilarious but overall I had a good time but left the theater wondering what I just saw
I see huge potential in future movies like a Luigi’s mansion movie that can focus on Luigi and develop him as a character. Cause this film they pretty much threw as much fan service as they possibly could
Well yeah they couldn’t make their first ever Mario movie with a very complex story or taking higher stakes, it would be too risky
@Kuspanov Ablay I'm just hoping the box office results prove to then we want more Nintendo Cinemative content.
dont be ridicolous
Peach not being allowed to fail or be vulnerable at all hurt the movie a bit. Donkey kong got more of a heartfelt moment with Mario and I can’t remember one part where she got that sort of moment with anyone. All they did with her was make her a hyper-competent badass like she was john wick. She wasn’t unlikable but it wasn’t peach.( also peach has magic, so I was sad not to see any of that.)
You're shouting into a void with criticism of Peach. I have stated the same in multiple forums. I have been lambasted or downvoted for calling people out about lying when it comes to Movie Peach being a Mary Sue.
@@zerofudou5689 I didn’t hate her in the movie, I’m just a stickler for being accurate to the source material and peach deviated the most. (Apart from cranky kong)
It’s the trend of modern movies. To rectify systemic oppression and poor portrayals of women they’ve gone to a lot of Mary Sue tropes. In this one, it works somewhat because Peach isn’t a native of the Mushroom Kingdom, rather being an implant raised by Toads. It works since this journey requires the Mario Brothers saving themselves and seeking resolve, rather than Peach’s rescue. It just falls a bit flat since the IP of Mario has a formula.
@@acetofresh1 I think this is a good summary. Movie Peach isn’t bad, its just that game peach is different ( capable but also vulnerable and more of a negotiator than a fighter.)
@@acetofresh1 It's very ironic that their supposed 'rectifying' achieves the opposite of their intention. They only make women look worse. The stereotypes/tropes they presumably fight against were arguably more flattering then what they've done to women. They make women look desperate for recognition. It's pathetic to look at. The heroes they create are never heroes at all, but rather shallow cardboard cutouts. They aren't allowed to even *be* characters because the writers can't accept that flaws and struggles are what make something engaging. Even when they put forth a feeble attempt at a hero's journey, the heroine's flaws are always something ridiculous like being 'too perfect' and her so-called struggle is dealing with people who don't understand how great she is. What a joke. Characters like these are all human shaped jokes. It was kind of funny at first but the longer this mentality of 'correcting societies wrongs' goes on their efforts just become sadder and sadder.
In this simple story, Mario undergoes a genuine hero's journey. He is forced to cope with failure. His opponents are stronger and more experienced than he is, so his chances of victory are left in doubt. He *cannot* win on his own, but his bravery puts him in the right places at the right times. He needs a great deal of help from newfound friends and allies. His saving grace is that he never gives up, learns quickly, and has something worth fighting for. It doesn't hurt that his antagonists (DK and Bowser) are hampered by their foolish pride. Both of them could have easily beaten Mario, but sabotaged themselves in classic villain fashion.
I do agree that Peach is misrepresented in the movie. Worse, she is a victim of the mentality I ranted about. She has been made worse than poorly written or offensive. Much worse than that. She has been rendered boring. That is the true death of a character. She's a bland shell of her in-game self. Which, if nothing else, was at least memorable. Being competent enough to participate in battles is not a personality.
It's really interesting how "it's not a movie, it's a loosely stringed together collection of mario easter eggs" can also be used as the perfect description for the original 1986 Mario animated Movie
I can understand the complaints but man this movie was so entertaining hard to even look at the negative. Like you mention the body horror that was dry bones was soooo good.
Get smart.
@@bakedbeans5494 He is smart. He enjoyed himself instead of complaining that the kids' movie wasn't targeted to him.
@@bakedbeans5494 Video game movie bad!!!! I'm different everybody look at me!!!
@@dhans9662 Cry.
@@OxygenC2 Imagine thinking that?
Dude, you're not allowed to dislike this film because IT'S A KIDS FILM, BRO and MARIO GAMES WERE NEVER DEEP, BRO. Don't you see, kids don't deserve well written films with depth like Lego Movie!
I spent over an hour staring at the movie screen waiting for the movie to pick up, for it to build toward something funny or exciting or at least a little fun, and then I realized it never would.
I'm not expecting there to ever be a Mario story that's a philosophical masterpiece but man I do wish they would just give it a little extra oomph in terms of how creative the plots can be. The Lego Movie was a pretty barebones movie about "being the chosen one" but by the end of it when it turns to live action they added that message about not suppressing your creativity and individualism. The scene with the kid and his father was the best part of the movie. I wish more kids movies had that 5% more plot to make it more interesting.
The 90s film was already strange and weird.....still a fan.
Not really if you’re from the 90s
The 90s film was just terrible
@@boxman5381 That's because it had an awful production.
@@boxman5381 It is, and that's what makes it fun. It's like watching a fucked up mishmash of Mario, Jurassic Park and Blade Runner
@@theraymunator literally sounds dope
Galaxy 2 is one of my all time favourite games and I was underwhelmed by it, although it was perfectly fine. A lot of people in my gaming group say they loved it because there were lots of easter eggs, and I enjoyed all that stuff... but there's barely anything else beyond that. There's not much to get out of the full movie you can't get from the trailer...
I would disagree and say there's a lot of enjoyment to be had seeing something so faithfully adapted stay true to the source material and still turn out to be a decent movie.
Well everything was that a breakneck pace The plot is favorite thing I still think it was an overall great movie seeing the packed CGI and world fleshed out into something believable.
I only wish it took it's time and explored more of the environments rather than put them all into a montage..
yes but at least you can play the game and feel a bit good to beat it.
you cannot "play" Mario movie. That is as if you would take all cutscenes from a game or 2 and smash them together (especially Mario games). The ugly truth would rear its head, meaning that you do not really care about the toddler plot, where the ending is clear from the first moment. You just care about beating the game and getting through the obstacle course which is that 2d or 3d platformer.
That is why it feels so empty - there is no story substance to hold it together. Sorry but the story of a bad guy to kidnap a good guy and you need to save them but you do nothing else but save them is for preschoolers or at best for children under 8 at best.
I felt the same way.
What do you even mean by that last part. You get enjoyment and a fun time.. If you want something that is deep and character provoking, go watch Spider Verse, Kung Fu Panda ect.
I’m starting to realize just how alike everyone thinks (me as well) but jeez I couldn’t tell if I had a stroke 5 or 6 times but no, the movie was just really fast. I swear like half the time we met new characters they just instantly bond, like the movie knows we already know these characters, but that doesn’t mean we can just instantly set connections between them. It felt like they were just running as fast as they could occasionally scooping up new Easter eggs and characters. The plot was very rushed. BUT that didn’t stop me from enjoying the movie, I give it an overall of 6.5
This movie was extremely fun and absolutely hilarious! I just hated the pacing, I wanted more out of it. But I knew going into it that it was going to be a short film. I loved the lore aspects (the Mario bros. Family, how peach became a princess, etc.) The audience I was with were either excited kids or weird cringy man children who needed to touch grass… but it was still a great film
I hope with "weird cringy manchildren" you don't mean people who just watched the movie even when they're adults
@@leobe2104 i hope that as well
Weird cringey man children? What do you by that? Grown men cheering or something?
You sound like a pretty judgemental person
@@leobe2104 trust me, I do not. I am adult myself dude and took my adult brother… they were yelling, cheering and clapping obnoxiously when a character WE KNEW would be in the film showed up, kicked our seats multiple times, etc. One of them screamed WTF when Kamek was in drag… while there were other kids/parents. I went to see it a second time in a theater filled with children and my experience was 10x better. So yeah you go have an experience like that and say I’m judge mental 💀
The theatre was packed with children yet my screening was so quiet honestly impressed
Totally agree. I had a good time in the theater, but once I left I asked myself "what was the thematic arc?" I came up blank. There's no real story there, nothing character arc/growth based--which honestly is odd for Illumination who, even with the DM/Minions movies are annoying AF, still have strongly identifiable thematic arcs. So this one lacking that is fine just... kind of odd? But I'm hopeful with the tease of Peach's backstory that a sequel would give us a full arc for her as that's the most natural "next story" from what I can tell?
have you ever played Mario?
@@bboyhanvzla it doesn’t matter if its originally a game, if you’re translating it to movie, its a completely different medium with different expectations. And one of those expectations is actually...writing it with characters with progressing arcs.
@@The1andonlysharpshooter and the whole criticism for movie is "it's bad because it doesn't have a thematic arc".
@@bboyhanvzla yes, one of the most basic parts of the story should be a thematic arc.
It doesn't have to have a thematic arc to be good. It's a very simple point A to point B story, but what makes it work is how fun it is. It has a basic character arc for Mario and that's good enough as long as the rest of the movie is enjoyable. This movie wasn't pretending to be anything it's not. It was a fun ride that Mario fans will love. Nobody was expecting this movie to be on the level of Puss in Boots the Last Wish.
The primary thing I've never understood about the "the Martinet voice would get annoying in a 90 minute film" argument is that, prior to the announcement of the film, nobody was ever saying the voice was annoying. While Mario might not say a lot of full sentences, over the course of an average Mario game you're hearing him make his little random sounds A LOT. Mario's voice has probably been the most consistent sound associated with the franchise for decades. And in addition, the focus on his voice exclusively in the context of a film ignores the greater context that films have in comparison to games, which is to say, in a Mario film, Mario isn't necessarily the sole point-of-view character for the entire length of the story. Add on the fact that even if he's the primary focus character, that doesn't mean he needs to be the one primarily delivering dialogue, especially if he's constantly traveling with a band of other characters like Toad, Peach, and Donkey Kong.
There are so many ways around just having Mario constantly shouting for 90 minutes, and even all of that is overlooking the fact that Charles Martinet is an accomplished voice actor with decades of experience under his belt, and he could "tone down" the voice if needed. But whenever people defend recasting Mario for the film, they act like it was an inevitable force of nature that caused it because otherwise the movie would just be 90 minutes of endless "wahoo"s.
Ikr, wait until you tell these same people about the existence of the goofy movie. Where a OTP character voice was toned down for emotional scenes
you know what could've been awesome? if they would adapt super paper Mario. like it has a massive story and so many unique characters
Oh yeah story is amazing! It's weird at times (in a good way imo) and it's so dark compared to any other Mario game ever!
@@pugpartyproductions8805 yeah and it would revive the more story driven Mario and imagine what the voice cast for it would be
That’s actually a really good idea. Maybe a series would be better for that for well developed characters
Why? Just play the game.
@MegaSystem is true, but the visuals would be amazing and the story would be even more developed
Thanks man. Just watched it and came away feeling brain damaged; and thought I was going insane with all the fan adoration. Appreciate the level headed honesty about the films strengths and shortfalls.
I CLAPPED I CLAPPED AT THE MARIO REFERENCE!
*for 90 minutes*
I gasped when you used the SpongeBob Movie clip. As a die hard fan, I couldn’t stop thinking about what that movie did for adapting a franchise that the Mario Movie didn’t do.
Love it or hate it, Seth Rogan is now my head cannon for Donkey Kong's voice
Never expected to see so much hate for Seth. I thought donkey Kong was a perfect role for him. To me his voice & personality matches the look of donkey Kong perfectly.
What the hell is “head cannon”
@@luisdaprodigy2208 also f*** Seth rogen
@Funk Robot It's what someone considers to be true to them even though it's not true at all.
@@pugpartyproductions8805 Well it technically is canon now, for the film at least
I didn't actually think Chris's voice was that bad in the movie, I didn't notice it.
My issue with kids movie is that it's been proven that they could be deep and enjoyable for adults, yet so many of them are just created to be ok.
Why the hell do you think kids movies can be deep? That's just wrong since kids are not mature enough to handle something that's deep. Kids under 13 should always be sheltered from them so they won't get sad and won't question about something that's deep. If a 10 year old kid enjoys a movie that deals with deep things like romance, depression, bullying, overcoming fears, mistakes, suicide, dysfunctional families, etc. Then that kid is a bratty human being.
@@warknightxl2167 no one has said kids movies should have depression and suicide lol.
And romance it’s not a mind blowing thing, kids see it every day with their families or the parents of their friends, by that logic almost every movie is unwatchable for children.
Overcoming fears and that people make mistakes are actually good lessons to teach kids about.
The ones who turn out being spoiled are the ones who have no knowledge about the world, society or culture. Teaching kids about things is okay as long as you don’t make it inappropriate
This movie felt like watching a speedrun in real time: No time to breathe, little time to read and so much caffeine im gonna need 🗿
0:54 oh exactly how I felt after watching the movie :0
5:02 Watch the movie in pt-br. The voice actor mimics Charles Martinet voice and it DOES NOT gets annoying. And it IS forced, Mario's pt-br VA isn't even a voice actor, he's originally a singer who happened to get involved with tangled movie, yet, it sounds good. Martinet would be a better choice, for both Mario and Luigi. And Martinet is SUPER talented. He would be able to make emotions well.
Also the real first Mario movie "Super Mario Bros.: Peach-Hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen!" Had Bowser/King Koopa with a personality like this illumination movie.
Bowser was ALWAYS like that. It's just a not very well known fact, because almost no one knows that movie exists.
I kinda think they got a lot of inspiration from this movie for the illumination one.
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Peach makes Bowser turn into a small version of himself to lock him up at some point of the movie.
In the japanese one: She makes him turn in a teddy bear. (But this doesnt work well for her)
Illumination one, she gives him the blue mushroom.
Luigi is the one carrying the stuff in both movies. (Yes Luigi's mansion, but this japanese movie came way before Luigi's mansion!)
Funny in the illumination movie Bowser always has intel about what Mario and Peach are up to, in the japanese movie this is explained by having a couple of goombas following the brothers.
Super Star is what saves Mario and makes him defeat Bowser in both movies by the end. (Playing the star power up theme!)
And there are many other similarities, watch both movies, they're both good.
Honestly I agree with this take. It's a fun time for Mario fans but as a movie it's so stale. There's no substance to the references. Really hope theu take the criticism to heart since the plot is by far the biggest criticism of this movie.
@@DekuDunkstar exactly. There's so many good ideas and concepts here but they never get fully utilized and it makes the movie feel hollow.
My personal take is that, as a movie fan, it’s just okay. As a Mario fan, I LOVED it. And because I’m a Mario fan, I walked out quite happy with this. I guess my theatre having a blast with it also added to the experience. I just felt that there was a sense of love and celebration for all the Mario games here.
@@slitchey3166 they did their best teasing locations they can venture into later films
One of my first thoughts after watching the movie was “imagine how much better this movie would be if the Yoshis were involved in the final act.”
This movie ended up being pretty much what I expected it to be from the moment it was announced that Miyamoto would be supervising the production: basically just Mario doing cool shit with a couple of Hollywood stuff sprinkled around a bit like licensed songs and celebrities as voice actors.
The issue with Miyamoto is that he has a very weird view of what Mario is, and while I don't blame him as he is one of if not the most important creative responsible for the creation of Mario stuff, at this point his vision for the series and what it actually is are just way too different now. The fact that he's also part of the corporate side of Nintendo doesn't help, it feels like now Miyamoto only cares about the money and not Mario as an artistic creation, as weird as that might sound.
What really frustrates me is that it's evident that the people who made this movie love Mario, and it really feels like they could have made it into a masterpiece had they been allowed to take more risks. Everything that could have made this movie better is already there but it feels unpolished. I actually really liked the movie because it just has a lot going for it. They absolutely nailed Bowser's personality, the rivalry between Mario and DK is really fun to see, Peach surprisingly feels very in character despite having a very different personality compared to the games, and the fact that they finally let Mario have an actual character arc fills me with so much joy. But it sucks that even though they didn't go with the actual plot from the games, (which itself is just a very simplified version of the tale of St. George and the dragon, like with other games like Ghosts 'n Goblins), the plot is still very generic and the pacing is so fast that it doesn't even feel like the characters have any real agency, which sucks since that's always the thing that stands out in plot heavy Mario games like the RPGs or Mario Odyssey.
But oh well, if anything, I'm happy the movie turned out okay. I was terrified that this movie was gonna be shit but it wasn't. But I will still dream of a Mario movie as ambitious as the 1993 one, made with as much care as this one, and with that pizzazz that the games and the 1986 movie have.
I think the movie both surpassed and exactly met what I was expecting from it. It at the very least does feel like it came from a place of love for the series. what I think really carried the movie which most people don’t seem to be giving it credit for is the role reversal of peach and Luigi. If peach was the one kidnapped for the majority of the movie then it would be far less investing even with all of the meticulously placed references. Mario saving the mushroom kingdom because of his brother, rather than bc of Peach whom he hardly knows actually gives Mario more of an emotional stake in the story rather than Just being the necessary protagonist needed to drive the already played out story. The main pacing issue with the movie is mainly because it’s second act feels far more like half of a second act than a complete one. It could have been very fun to see more of the worlds peach and Mario traveled through in their brief montage in a way that utilized the many worlds that have been created in the Mario games, which also would’ve solidified their friendship a little bit more. At the same time I could easily see that being really hard to purposely weave into the story without it feeling like filler. Despite the missed potential to both celebrate Mario’s history while also adding some thing new it at the very least hit that Nintendo trademark of making something super enjoyable, but recycled.
This movie can be perfectly encapsulated by Chris Pratt’s performance as Mario- he seemed to reluctant or scared to commit fully to any interpretation of Mario’s voice, just like the movie was too reluctant to commit to any huge changes of the typical Mario formula while still having a decent enough freshness to keep it going.
I still found myself loving it though as a “decent Mario expert” as you put it.
Bad movie.
@@bakedbeans5494 Bad bean
My peach in super smash is definitely not a damsel in distress…
Me being from Brooklyn, I caught the Gentfrication joke in the beginning when they got their first customer...the brand new out of place building in between the smaller pre-war buildings and how impressed Luigi was. THAT is what Brooklyn look like these days lmao that was a slick real world easter egg.
nintendo already said that this was gonna be the start of a small cinematic universe, and (spoilers) with the small flashback scene with peach it really gave off 'we're testing the waters to see how we can improve' vibes
Personally this movie didn’t feel like it was made by Mario fans, it just seemed like a studio that wanted to make money off of Mario fans. The references felt pretty surface level to me, like there was nothing to it other than the makers saying “Look! That’s in the game! Remember that? From the game?”
idk kid icarus didn’t feel like a surface level reference to me
@@adualaispuro something can be relatively obscure but still surface level. What I’m saying is, they didn’t do anything interesting with any of the Easter eggs other than just showing them for a second for the sole purpose of seeming like they cared much more than they actually did. It’s totally fine if you enjoyed the film I just personally felt like it was a cash grab.
Exactly, the references were either there as a selling point for trailers or as a distraction from the quality of the movie. It’s totally fine for people to enjoy them and this movie by proxy but let’s not act like it’s not just another Illumination movie with a new coat of paint.
@@colinmitchell1276 i agree but it was pretty fun
@@colinmitchell1276 Cash grab is crazy
When it's all said and done this was a fun nostalgia filled easter egg with references galore wrapped in expensive paper. It's not a good film but it's definitely an experience worth checking out if you grew up on the games or if you have kids. I don't know if an adult who never played these games would have the same experience though.
"Not a good film" how?
@@dhans9662 awful writing
@@themoviefan9990 Oh no, the plot wasn't complex and didnt require a PhD in English Literature to understand.
@@dhans9662 what plot?
@@themoviefan9990 The plot with the conflict, tension, climax, and character development.
I grew up playing and loving Mario and Mario games since I was a kid.
I left the theater feeling like I just watched another trailer but where was the actual movie???
It was a bad adventure and bad story telling and bad writing.
Mario's entire struggle is that...he got beat by Donkey Kong temporarily for a minute? Or that his parents didn't like his TV commercial?
That's really weak storytelling. And the pacing was so fast it ruined the movie.
For example Peach and Mario were supposed to go on an adventure to reach the Jungle Kingdom.
But that didn't ever happen, instead they only went on a 1-minute cutscene.
Then Peach comes all the way back to the Toad Kingdom using a Kart in 5 seconds. So then what was the point of the "adventure"? There was none.
This movie was disappointing, it didn't have much that wasn't in the trailers already.
Jack Black's Bowser was a predictable cliché, you get what you expect from Hollywood insiders. I couldn't wait for his scenes to end, it was so typical like every generic Hollywood villain that I could only cringe.
Everything was kinda inconsequential.
The best thing you could say about this movie is that a 5 year old liked it.
This movie could have been way better while still appealing to the same audience. It simply had bad writing and a bad script.
All the praise you see for the movie is IN SPITE of that because the love for Mario and Nintendo is filling in the gap for an obviously bad movie.
Thank you! You comment deserves to be pinned for your masterful analysis of the Super Princess Peach movie.
I really couldn't get passed the pacing of this film. So many big plot points get rushed passed to an extent that my suspension of disbelief just got shattered. Like when Mario gets to the Mushroom Kingdom and meets Toad for the first time. He's just gone from the Brooklyn sewer system, through a trans dimensional pipe, loosing his brother in the process and is now in a weird fantasy world full of giant mushrooms, with a smaller mushroom talking to him. Mario is freaked out by it for a few seconds at most, before just accepting that this is the situation. I get that this is a fantasy film with weird concepts, you need to be able to accept that, but if the characters aren't at least reacting to it organically, then I just can't get invested in the story, because the characters and the world don't feel real.
I have a lot of problems with this films, the generic plot, the lack of real character development, the licenced music choices, but the rushing past major plot beats, with characters going through drastic changes in a matter of seconds is easily my biggest issue.
I'm glad the kids are liking it, but this film really is just the cinematic equivalent of dangling keys.
Personally, I absolutely loved this movie. I had such a fun time watching it with my family. However, one of my major problems of the movie was how fast the pacing felt. There is a lot more issues I have but overall I still had a great time with this movie.
I think it added to the overall story for the franchise by showing that Mario wasn't always so sure of himself. The chances with opening the plumbing company, being a disappointment to his family and ridiculed by his peers. He found who he was always meant to be but in a different place. That's the through-line, I don't know how it's being missed.
its not being missed, irs being overshadowed and under developed
@@AtomicVertigo_Comics Exactly. If you think about it, Mario didn't actually have a dramatic arc. He stayed pretty much the same. Everyone but Luigi stayed pretty much the same.
They had the action equivalent of an ending but way lacking on the character-side. Mario had no agency for most of the movie so he couldn't really show character growth or hit milestones naturally. The closest we get is him stepping up to fight DK. Mario's character arc is essentially opening parenthesis, closing parenthesis, "()".
Dude seriously. The story is pretty simple to follow and people are still missing it. What more did anyone want to develop the titular characters? Even effing Donkey Kong had character development when he said he wanted to prove to Cranky that he's not a joke and wants to prove to everyone he's capable of more than just smashing things and wound up proving to us the audience that he absolutely is. What, did these people want the first hour of this film dedicated to the origin stories right down to when they were born? (woulda been kinda funny to see Baby Mario and Baby Luigi dropped off by storks like in Yoshi's island but I digress) Same people would've complained the movie didn't need to be so long. People are gonna gripe and b*tch about everything apparently.
@@lunchbox7337ify I wasn't down on the movie, but I can see why people are. Character statement is not the same as character development, which this movie is lacking almost entirely. For the most part, characters don't necessarily change, and aren't given a reason to as I see it. This could have been a Lego movie, and some people are disappointed it wasn't. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Very disapointed that Shaq didn't make an appearance as a reference to the classic GameCube title NBA Street V3. Like, why am I here then?
Seth Rogen tried way less than Chris Pratt but he gets a free pass?
I will never understand that. Seth Rogen is just being Seth Rogen and people don't really criticize him for it. I guess it's because Seth Rogen is hilarious in other movies so people are fine with it? I like Seth but I never imagined DK to sound like that.
@@jackflynn412 for real. At the very least Chris puts on something that sorta sounds like an accent of some kind. Seth Rogen just did his own voice and it really doesn’t fit Donkey Kong that much
No that was mediocre too, though he wasn't speaking anywhere near as much as other characters.
@@Megajmaster1000 I’m pretty sure at 6:12 he just goes “I’m a DK fan so I’m okay with it” and that’s it. That’s what I meant by him giving Seth Rogen a free pass
@@AkiraLionPilot I'm confused. I'm talking about seth Roger's dialogue time compared to others. I'm not referring to the creators own thoughts about his performance.
If it made some kids and mario fans happy I think that makes the movie a bit better, at least some people got something out of it. Although for me I just felt like it was extremely extremely generic. The pacing was so fast and rushed and it is something I really dislike about movies now a days- there is never any time to stop and process anything, or take it in. There is no time to get immersed. I will say, I am impressed they made a decent movie at the very least. I think taking game series and turning it into shows can be difficult so i'll give them that.
It got a couple chuckles over me, but overall, I hold this movie as the golden goose for why the average Joe doesn’t understand what makes a good movie. This movie was 90 minutes long and it still felt like they were stretching it. I enjoyed pointing at stuff, I enjoyed some of the jokes. But the voice acting was bland, the plot…didn’t exist, the licensed music didn’t work, and no idea was ever committed to. The intro was pointless, the ending was too long, the Peach marriage arc was like 5 minutes long and once again…did nothing.
This movie sucks…it’s not even good, or decent. The critics gave it a 59% or so and that was too high. This movie needed to stick to one aspect of Mario and flesh it out, not throw 7 Mario aspects in and skim over all of them. We got Luigi’s Mansion, we got isekai, we got the intro to the mushroom Kingdom, we got Donkey Kong Country, we got Mario Kart, we got Mario Odyssey, we got the opening to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. It didn’t let any idea rest and because of that, the conflict doesn’t feel urgent and it never feels like there’s any imminent danger. None of the characters have time to get fleshed out. Mario’s parents tell them they’re fools…they get sucked into the Mushroom kingdom for the next 80 minutes, then you check back in with them for the last minute and for some reason they change their mind despite not having any evidence that the plumbing company would end up being successful and Mario and Luigi are the heroes at the end, despite Mario’s negligence being what led Bowser to Brooklyn and putting everyone in danger…but once again, the final battle is five minutes long, so there’s not any real danger because the have the invincibility star.
Look, I get that it’s a kid’s movie with tons of Easter eggs for long time fans…but this movie is just insulting. They couldn’t find a way to make a 90 minute movie with a single compelling plot point, the only thing grabbing your attention is how quickly things transition from one idea to the other before you can stop to think that it’s stupid. Puss In Boots: The Last Wish is like the 6th Shrek movie or something and that movie was absolutely brilliant, but the Mario movie couldn’t be bothered to try to give anyone an arc. Bowser doesn’t learn any lessons, Peach doesn’t earn any lessons, Mario and Luigi don’t learn any lessons. They basically just go from location to location, reaching a minor inconvenience that they resolve within seconds, and moving on. This is not a movie, this is a commercial, and I’m the schmuck that wasted 10 dollars to see it
A far more appropriate title for this Illumination bait-and-switch Trojan Horse would be something like "Illumination Presents The Super Princess Peach Movie: Feminist Cringe Edition featuring SIMP Mario and Rarely Luigi." The main "plot" isn't the same excuse plot that's standardized in the games. The subverted "plot" for this movie is; The princess isn't the main center of rescue, unlike what she's always been, but this time, she's the star of the show and the sole driving force of the narrative, and she has to find her army to protect her kingdom from the clutches of Bowser... and oh, random loser Mario just magically happens to show up from Earth, and he's the princess' lost puppy who's along for the ride, while Mario's emasculated brother, Luigi the houdini, is kidnapped by Bowser and is MIA for most of the movie's run time, and oh, princesses _practically_ beats up Bowser on her own while the Bros were just the sidekicks in their own origin story.
The movie wasn’t exactly a cinematic masterpiece, but it was really fun and definitely good for fans
Not for me I wanted more
After seeing this movie with my brother we both felt empty, we both said we liked it but neither of us could even come up with a favorite scene cuz it all felt the same. You literally took our exact emotions and vocalized them so now I understand why lol
There's literally nothing strange about the movie. It's pretty much exactly what I expected, except better. I went in with very low expectations and came out chuffed to bits.
In before a flood of people get mad at you for expressing your opinions on the mario movie
Just mention Chris pratt and they will swarm
“I mean what did you expect?” You know when I microwave a hot pocket I expect it to be kinda mediocre, that doesn’t make it any less mediocre. You gotta think that illumination coulda made any movie, and they chose to make this one, something that outside of being fun for 90 minutes left no real emotional impact. You gotta think that there are stories that change peoples lives, Johnny got his gun convinced so many people to not sign up for the draft that it was temporarily removed from shelves by the publisher during ww2, and instead we get something that’s just fun. I don’t take issue with fun I like candy as much as the next guy but don’t get all pissy when film critics point out “this could’ve been so much more” the rotten tomatoe scores are totally earned because when looking at the vast array of what cinema and art in general can be, even if this concept was perfectly executed it would be about a 6/10
Chris Pratt was good as a Brooklyn Mario. I love the super show so this Mario being inspired by that made me so happy and love the movie.
“The most beloved character in video game history” you mean only after the straight line in Tetris right?
That's what was bothering me about the movie
Friends and I went to watch it yesterday and we all thought it was good
And when they asked me my personal rating
I said an 8
And when they asked why I didn't give it a perfect 10
I said "I don't know, there's something missing in that movie"
It was the lack of plot, friends and I got a huge kick out of all the references and even a couple of funny scenes
But story wise, it's the same thing we've seen many times, while I was intrigued for the most part, the interest mostly went down to how many references we can spot
Storywise the only thing that interested me were the parents and peachs backstory that sadly don't get much screen time
Overall the movie is a really fun ride especially if your a Mario/Nintendo fan
But it's fear of trying something new is what holds it back to being something truly amazing/ground breaking
Would have been perfect to see Mario kiss Peach.
Not Peach on the cheek like in videogames but on the mouth.
Otherwise, it was nice.
Yeah, I loved that we finally saw Mario's parents, but it sucks that they didn't really have a lot going for them, even though in theory Mario's dad should've been a key character in relation to Mario's arc.
@@theraymunator yeah, that's one thing I was hoping for
They set up the "My dad doesn't take me seriously" plot point just to make it go nowhere
I thought we would've at least gotten a scene of at least his dad looking mario and luigi and than have a small scene where he says that it must be his fault he's gone, but no...he just belittles mario and comes back at the end to say he's proud
That scene woulda hit harder if we had a scene like this
The other thing I feel also could've been established more is mario and luigis relationship, I really really liked the scene with baby luigi and baby mario
But sadly that's the only time we ever see that plot point have an effect on mario and luigi relationship, there isn't much in that aspect sadly, I would've loved to see more of that expanded upon
Bro gave it an 8 💀
@@pannetonalex that a problem?
when i watched it, it felt like i was watching a movie that was mario themed. hearing chris pratt instead of something 'mario' basically kept me from believing it was supposed to be an actual real mario movie. even as good as bowser was via jack black, he alone couldnt save the movie
If Jack Black gains enough momentum…. he could win the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor guys he has a chance! Or ‘Peaches’ wins Best Original Song lol.
Me and my kids were laughing so hard at that, the commercial, and the depressed star. Jack Black killed it, got that song stuck in my head. I also loved the diddy Kong getting called out part.
I feel like my thoughts on this movie echo a lot of the same thoughts you had. As a Mario movie, it was all i could've hoped for. Spectacular visuals, lots of easter eggs and references that feel well implemented into the world the film built for itself, the worlds and locations themselves, the score done by Brian Tyler. It was all well done and faithful. As a movie that stands on its own however, i did feel like it was lacking. The simple plot is fine imo as i came to expect that but the pacing of the movie felt way too quick and moments of strong characterization were scarce. I mean Luigi for example is really entertaining when he's on but we don't get to see much of him because he's the "damsel in distress" and while him in that role makes sense story-wise, i felt there was a missed opportunity in having him be more of an active character when he's held as a prisoner. The movie could've shown him grow more confident and less nervous and eventually figure out a plan to get himself and the other prisoners out of the Darklands or something in that ilk. Hopefully with this being the first of several Nintendo based movies going forward i can hope for more characterization and tighter pacing. Even with all that said and its other flaws (the ill-fitting use of pop songs for instance), i still had a fun time with the movie and that's all that matters to me, especially considering how low my expectations for video game movies are.
The only thing i really disagreed with was your take on Chris Pratt's voice. I was super skeptical like everyone else because i felt there was no way he could fully commit to doing this different take on Mario but surprisingly, i found myself enjoying him just fine throughout the movie. Same goes for the rest of the cast as well (barring Fred Armisen as Cranky Kong. That definitely felt miscast imo)
Jesus i wrote a lot more than i expected lol
I know it'll never happen, EVER, but I would do anything to see a mario movie with actual good characters and stakes, like some TTYD-esque adaptation. It doesn't have to be TTYD of course, I just want at least SOME serious subject matter, huge risks being taken, variety in storytelling, and so on.
Edit: I just remembered the luma, more of that too please.
Yeah people throw the excuse of it's Mario it's not known for its story like the RPGs aren't the ones that gave a lot of personality to these characters.
@@s-wo8781 On that note, the RPGs also have shown that if you don't really have a plot, you can still have a good time by relying on humour and characterization. The first Mario RPG doesn't really have a plot besides "evil metal man from a parallel universe comes to do evil, Mario does the Mario and saves the world", but I still replay the game constantly just because I love the jokes and character interactions in that game. It's always hilarious to see Mario and co. getting BTFO of Mole Mines, or Bowser being sad about being homeless and alone, only to try to show a tough guy façade when Mario shows up behind him.
@@theraymunator I think Bowser being pretty funny in the movie was a highlight for me because they seem to hold back making other characters funny except maybe for Lumalee in a dark way...Mario's world is surreal but they seem uptight a bit for me here.
@@s-wo8781 It's the realization that relatively only few Mario players have played the RPGs and other spin-offs - even Mario Party 3 gave them "character traits" (Mario for Courage, Peach for Love, Donkey Kong for Strength, Kindness for Yoshi, Wit for Wario, Beauty for Daisy [although I associate that more with Peach now], and Waluigi for Mischief).
@@theraymunatorexcept the RPGs are not mainline Mario games
Spot on about Pratt doing a Brooklyn accent one minute, then a Midwestern one right after. Jack Black really did steal the show and seemed to have had the most fun with the role. Great review.
It was hilarious to hear a bunch of 7 year olds in my theater be so hyped about the movie, honestly kinda made the experience funnier for me
I went with low expectations
And gladly i did.
This movie plot was rushing so much.
I give it a 5/10
So apparently Mario going on a long travel to reach a destination like how he does in the video games means its rushing?
@@CyberAtlasX1 The trip itself barely lasts 2 minutes (it's the same with Mario's training.) If you want us to connect with these characters, show us the build-up to their eventual climax. Don't just rush through it and expect it to have the same impact.
Just accept the fact that the movie is trash.
If this movie came out from disney with the same plot you'd be crapping all over the place
Hey, the 1993 film was not that bad - I think it’s hilariously bizarre and entertaining, seriously one of my favorite movies 😂 I loved Bob Hoskins and Dennis Hopper in it. I know it was a shitshow to produce and the cast had a horrible experience on set though. I saw the new movie yesterday with my daughter and yes, it was entertaining, but I do prefer the live action movie -it’s a product of its time with a lot of charm in the imperfections and weirdness and it always makes me laugh. Also, there needs to be a moratorium on using aha’s take on me in movies for a while. lol
Martin Scorsese's critique of Marvel films can be applied to The Mario Movie. It's not cinema, it's a theme park ride.
The money the cinema’s rake in with these movies will keep the small Scorsese’s movies in the cinema’s. He must thank the gods they still make movies people will watch on the big screens, otherwise his movies will go straight to streaming.
This is a movie strictly for those who are familiar with the video games.
I’m surprised with how little praise I’ve seen for the textures and lighting in this film. I love Mario, but I really went for the technical achievement.
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It lacks some explanations as to why things happens (Rainbow Road), how things happened PROPERLY (Peach's past , even though it was shown, it was pretty lacking) but yeah, the movie's mostly a cameo/references tour
I don't think anyone needs a reason for why Rainbow Road works in a fantasy setting.
Peach’s backstory I feel is more of a breadcrumb for something to go into in future installments.
So this where all the rotten tomatoes critics went to, to this video’s comments section
Goofy ahh 💀
Brooklyn accent is inherently tinged with Italian. As a matter of fact, linguists may argue there never was a “ Brooklyn” accent, it was largely the accent of working class Italians and Jews in NYC. As a New Yorker, the accent was serviceable. Not too thick to seem caricature-y, just enough to think “ what if silent Mario spoke?”.
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That’s the vibe I was getting from people, and yet like Ghostbusters: Afterlife, they were so blindsided and smacked around by cameos and references that they declared they had seen God.
I refuse to go to Illumination films because they are not at all interested in pushing story forward.
Illumination is like that gag where all Bugs Bunny does is eat a carrot, and an audience goes wild.
If Cats is a movie, this is absolutely a movie
It's an ad for Nintendo. There's zero plot. The candy analogy is perfect.
That's extremly reductive. That's like saying either of the 2 good lego movies are just ads for lego. Like, kind of, but you missed the point. Mario manages to be fun and extremly visually entertaining, but it does have it's fair share of issues. Anything under a 6.5 is defo underrating it, but anything above an 8 is pretty high for this movie. It's a movie that manages to just barely not be mid.
@@ShadowMewto The Lego movie has a plot. The Mario movie doesn't.
@@koryeasterday5164 It has a plot, the plot just isn’t the main focus. It’s more about the journey than the destination. The Mario movie is really well animated and is generally a lot of fun, even if it lacks a lot of substance and plays it incredibly safe
I still disagree with the whole "Mario isn't known for its story" defense when multiple Mario JRPGs have proven that its universe is ripe for storytelling and characters.
I mean the main writers in the Mario property have actively stated that they do not believe story is needed to make a good experience, which is great for games, but I don't think anybody expected a Mario movie to ever have a semblance story with Nintendo strong-arming the movie. The only times a Mario anything has had a great story is when another team is developing it and the leads aren't present enough to change it.
I was falling asleep and so was the teenager sitting next to me.
Took my son to watch this for his first time at a theater. We both loved it. Great analysis of the film.
I want to see them dive into SMRPG material. I haven't seen the movie yet, but that storyline could keep them busy for a while and casts light on some characters that sadly fell out of the Mario universe as soon as they became a part of it (Croco, Belome, and Gino). Also, it was an awesome game that deserves a spotlight.
For many years I didn't enjoy movies as much as watching this Super Mario Bros movie. It was short but a lot of fun with great visuals. I look forward to the sequel and thanks to Shigeru Miyamoto for taking care of its quality.
There is definitely going to be a galaxy movie if this does well, or at least a sequel, which im pretty hype for since this is already my favorite movie ever. 11/10 loved every second
All I really wish is that they showed Luigi more in the movie, we didn't get to see much of him despite being a main character
Mario is mr Nintendo and he have always bullied Luigi. This movie is no exception, Luigi can´t steal any screentime as in stealing Mario´s thunder.
@@MoonwalkerWorshiper Ironically Mario was very nice with Luigi...it actually would've been more interesting if there was some sibling drama but at the end both will still stick together IMO.
@@MoonwalkerWorshipermy guy this movie destroys the “bad brother” narrative and you’re saying this movie is no exception of Mario bullying Luigi
@@WakerOfTheCryingRain Well I was kidding around without having seen it. But isn't it obvious that Mario is in front of Luigi because of commercial character, and Peach kind of in front of Mario because of feminism.
Did you see it in a theater?
Yeah?
Then it's a fucking movie
*Seth rogen laugh*
Hot take but the 1993 movie has a lot of care put into it with its world building and visuals. And it's story isn't bad if you take away its mario connections. If you took off the mario ties to both of these movies and judge them as movies themselves, the 1993 one is a better movie.
The guys who made the 1993 movie wanted to make their own movie. But didn't have a budget. So they got the rights from nintendo to use super mario bros. So they had a checklist of mario things, but they were pretty mich making their own movie
The 1993 movie is actually a movie. Is is the greatest it could’ve been? No. But it’s FAR from being bad, let alone the worst video game movie.
Literally, the only thing the new movie does better, is the visual and audio aesthetics.
Other than that, it’s some of the most dull “I clapped!” shite I’ve seen.
There’s a reason the critics hate it. Because to understand wtf is going on, you have to be familiar with the games. A good video game adaptation (like Mortal Kombat 1995) doesn’t need to do that. A film that requires prior knowledge of the characters, setting, plot etc before viewing, is not a good movie.
Not enough kamek or luigi, who were far and away the best cast characters
Toad as well. I feel like Toad had more presence in trailers and ads than he did in the actual movie.
Yeah, Luigi was sidelined for half the movie. Would've liked to see him take a more active role.
Kamek and Toad were also fun and I would've liked to see more of them too.
@@EzioMonty117 toad was far and away my favorite character, maybe i'm biased though since he is my favorite mario character
It was a fun dumb kids movie and that is all it was. It had virtually no story and the little bits of story it had were terrible.
I'm not sure why the movie introduced Mario with a scene of him effortlessly breezing through a complex platforming environment, to then show him deeply struggling to get to the flag in the practice level. Why make a movie focused on brotherhood, that separates the two brothers for the whole movie? Why end the movie with them getting a star that saves the day for them? The list of questionable decisions goes on and on.
I remember when the Lego movie came out the early criticism would be it was just a cash grab advertisement for Lego, but it wasn't. This movie on the other hand was, and yet no one is criticizing it, because at least something new and mediocre is better than the +11 movie of Fast and Furious.
Great point, those two scenes make no sense in context. Mario is an amazing platformer but struggles on his first attempts in the training scenes. Nothing really flowed well. I also didn't like how cheesy Donkey Kong was made out to be. I was hyped for them going into the Kong kingdom and once they got there I was immediately disappointed.
Great video, and I agree with almost all of your points! The one disagreement I have though is that this movie is entertaining in the same way the games are. Mario games are famous for being SO easy to pick up and play--no tutorials, just carefully crafted level design that gives the player space to experiment and learn. When I saw the film, I was struck by how the volume of easter eggs and the pacing prevented this spirit of Mario from shining through. There's no time for the characters or the audience to learn organically what a mushroom does by experiencing running into it and then getting hit with it; Peach just has to explain to us "power-ups make you strong, but you lose them when you get hit." It looks like a Mario game but it feels like anything but.
Exactly! Thank you! Your comment badly deserves to be pinned because you perfectly explained why this movie fails so terribly as a *Mario movie.* It doesn't capture the essence of Mario at all. Illumation's adaptation is already bad on its own because of its typical Illumination conventions, but it's even worse as a Mario adaptation. Add in some feminist propaganda and tada! You get The Super Princess Peach Movie: Feminist Cringe Edition.
@@rustyshackelford4224 I wouldn’t call this movie feminist either. Peach’s role in the story are a) an exposition-dumper, and b) a pretty girl to motivate the straight male hero to prove his competence (though this motivation is tertiary to wanting to save Luigi and prove his competence to the wider word/himself). She only exists to support Mario, and feminism is built on the idea that women do not only exist to support men.
@DakotaCityRag LOL! No. Peach breaks countless character rules and goes _far past_ the female supporting role or simply just the mentor role you'd expect her to be.
Illumination’s creative team wasn't a fan of Peach’s portrayal in the games and/or thought she had no characterization to work with, but there was obviously more political intentions to this glaring design change than what they let on. The actors and directors have stated in multiple interviews that they believe the Mario cast have no characterization in the games, _believing_ they gave them characterization for the first time, despite mountains of evidence contrary in the story driven RPGs and some other spin-offs, so it doesn't like they're as keen or passionate on the source material as they make themselves out to be.
How was it nostalgia driven? The fundamental basis of Mario's narrative is a knight rescuing a damsel in distress or his other peers from a castle guarded by a dragon. This concept is completely absent from the movie. If you liked the movie so be it, but it had zero to do with that classic trope or the core of the main character. Princess Peach's iteration in the movie was literally the embodiment of third wave feminism. What conservatives are calling woke now, fourth wave feminism, is a continuation of third wave (women are just as capable as men and are _therefore interchangeable in roles)._ Conservatives are mad that men are now using the same line (men are just as capable and are therefore interchangeable).
Sorry to point _this_ out to you. Peach being far more overpowering and physically capable than everyone absolutely made no sense, not even by the movie's own flimsy logic. How did she know advanced fighting techniques such as Kung Fu? Who taught her? The Toads didn't know how to fight, remember? Who was her mentor? If she is self taught, why did she feel the desire to learn all of this? She lived in a land of absolute peace with the pacifistic Toads until five minutes ago. Even when you factor in all of what's stated, it doesn't make any sense as to why Mary Sue Peach is dramatically more physically capable than _everyone else_ because this fickle excuse of "Well, she grew up in the Mushroom Kingdom and umm… duh! ROFL!" Because you act as if she was the _only_ person who grew up there when dudes like Bowser and Donkey Kong are also inhabitants, but they're still total scrubs in comparison to her. By this movies' flimsy logic, Bowser and DK _should be_ just around or even beyond Peach's skill/talent level/physical prowess because those two actually grew up in very hostile and militant environments, unlike her, and they have far bulkier builds than her demure, slim and slender stature (this completely contradicts about Peach's established limited strength in alternative Mario media, BTW. Peach is canonically physically the weakest of her peers, and she can't easily dramatically physically overwhelm opponents way larger than her size _head on._ She needs to compensate or rely on finesse or diplomacy or a weapon or something else to _hopefully_ match up with her foes and peers). *Even before* she stepped foot on the Mushroom Kingdom, she's already amazing and far more physically hyper competent than adult Mario was in this entire film *as a mere infant,* and, again, who taught her to be a master warrior when she grew up in a sheltered lifestyle surrounded by pacifistic Toads who don't know how to fight, and why does she act so pragmatic, stoic and militant when she had the easy life and never undergone trauma or humiliation unlike everyone else? Who was her mentor? There is no explanation besides what's in between her legs because she's the only prominent female character in this feminist power fantasy schlock. Everything surrounding this character adaptation was third wave feminism and had no logic or character growth.
Nope. You nerds, Mario bandwagoners, fanboys and NPCs weren't paying attention to the events of the movie. Girlboss Peach is the only driving force of this film's plot and does all the dirty work, does all the rescuing even rescuing herself from coerced marriage and captivity (I highly question *if these people actually watched the film* because it sounds like they didn't with the misinformation they're spreading) with ease, does all the demeaning, has all the testosterone in the world while also having the most estrogen, has all of the agency, and makes all of the major decisions, even going as far as making Marios decisions and fate *for him* because Mario's _that incompetent and spineless,_ throughout the entire movie even during the movies climax when Peach could've easily beaten Bowser on her own when she swiped the superstar from him and could've used it up herself instead of behaving out-of-character giving it up to Mario and Luigi because plot contrivance. She didn't need Mario at all to complete any of her objectives, including Mario's objective to rescue his own brother from captivity. Mario didn't even undergo a true Hero's Journey because his supposed mentor was coddling him, robbing him of his own agency (and manhood) and _making all of his decisions and determining his fate for him._ Mario's overall presence didn't matter. He was just an ancillary character in his own movie, and he and his brother will always be second fiddle to Princess Girlboss.
People who still think the critics are wrong _need to grow some critical thought._ You can take Mario and Luigi out of the movie and the rundown will probably be reduced to an hour, but it changes nothing. Quick breakdown; No Mario means Peach goes directly to the Kongs without him slowing her down; she defeats Donkey Kong with ease. They show later in the movie that she can _physically hurt Bowser without powerups._ Meaning she's more than capable of beating up DK without any power-ups in which the same cannot be said about Mario. Bowser blackmails her and she gives herself up. During the wedding instead of having to save Luigi, her primary focus now is to take the star from Bowser. She will accomplish this and she becomes Invincible, and she solos Bowser. The end! Movie over. The Mario Brothers are not needed at all. They didn't even rescue anybody.
@@rustyshackelford4224 You’re refuting a lot of arguments onto me that I did not say, nor do I believe. It’s not worth clarifying what I’m actually arguing if you’ll just insist on inventing my points for me. Have fun talking to yourself.
@DakotaCityRag Huh? What are you one about? I was trying to respond to your main argument that the princess was nothing more than a supporting character and that the movie wasn't Feminist despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. She's the main character in disguise, while the Mario's just her tag-a-long sidekick who didn't do much of anything and the very little things he "did do" could've been done way better by her, like all other modern feminist films. Seriously, we see Peach berating Mario multiple times, be the _sole driving force_ of the entire stories plot, save everything, including herself from capture twice without assistance, beat the main villain on her own, she has the most scenes out of anyone else, determines the outcomes of just about everything, including the movie's climax, etc. She totally undermines Mario's existence by accomplishing her goals and his goals for him and also dramatically being better than him at his own job (being the hero who saves people) even by the end.
Mario was never on a hero's journey, didn't grow as a character, and was an ancillary character in his own movie. His presence didn't matter. This was the classic bait and switch summed up perfectly by,
Mario: "You got it on your first try?"
Peach: "No no, yeah I totally got it on my first try."
You described almost exactly the way I feel about this movie. Like I waited months to watch it, I was hyped up until I sat in the theater, it was a great experience overall but it just felt like one big reference, there was no juice to it. It didn't stick with me at all cause there was nothing new to pick up for me, except for very few funny scenes, and it sucks for me to say this cause I wanted to be crazy in love with the movie. Ever since it released it's been annoying to hear about it on twitter cause all my friends are saying it's peak cinema and have gone to the theater to watch it multiple times, aside the fact that they complain about how the critics are wrong and biased in giving the movie bad scores. I know it's a matter of opinions but I honestly don't get how they don't see any of this. Like maybe you do see all this but don't care and decide to love it anyway, but they just don't. They think the movie is flawless. To me it just sucks to think we could have gotten more but Nintendo decided to play it safe.
I have 0 problem with Chris Pratt's voice. The fact that I say this and it's not on my mind during the movie as he speaks proves this. Also it compliments Charlie Day's voice better having a similar voice to his brother than something else off base.
6:22 what? Decent?! This is the best looking illumination movie ever made! It’s so colourful and the expressions and little details are awesome!
Let's be honest with ourselves here. Just because it's Illumination's best looking movie doesn't mean that it's impressive or anything. When I think of an animated movie that looks superb (especially in how it stands out), I think of The Lego Movie, Into the Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Soul, etc.
The movie was just too short, and the story was weak, the ending was so abrupt that I was just left feeling empty. I left going, "That was pretty good" but then the disappointment set in after. Usually with a movie you're wanting a sequel because you want more, but I was just like, "Alright." It just reminds me of how Nintendo is so unbelievably scared to do ANYTHING with their IPs. All their games are colorful and flashy but other than that mostly sterile and uninteresting.
Great movie! Very solid B. A lot of ridiculous complaining going on, and unreasonable expectations. For example, this movie DID expand on the game with story and characterization. Bare bone character development? Absurd. I think this reviewer is harsh and unreasonable. I hear people just saying that "there's no story" or "no characterization ' and I can explain why and how there IS but they can't explain how there isn't: Mario and Luigi have inadequacy complexes, critical family, and broken dreams, with Mario being blamed for dragging Luigi down and being impulsive and Luigi being too eager to please and go along with it and being a coward. LOL. No story? No characterization? PLEASE. Keep in mind that they have to make this a kids movie and it's an action movie. Again, you have to judge movies based off of what they are and who they are for. It's NOT on the A + level of a Toy Story BUT again it's a very solid B even an A- for me as a fan for the pure magic of it.