Mike Winger on Mark
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Mike Winger refers to Mark 11:23,24 the primary "name it and claim it" passage for "Kenneth Copeland" word of faith people. In this video I analyze his comments with a little correction and clarification on "if it be Thy will", "assuming God's will", and the literal Greek of Mark 11:22.
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I applied Mark 11:23-24 to my life before I knew who Kenneth Hagin, or Copeland, or any preacher was. And it WORKED. When I heard their teaching, it was what already was working in my life. There are still pharisees who don't know the Word or the Power of God among us today in 2021. Sad!
...perhaps you can explain then why ONLY the preachers are the ones living in those mansions? Why people have been complaining about preachers taking their money and then blaming your "lack of faith" for not receiving a miracle? Of course Jesus healed some, but Jesus did not healed all, remember all the people pressing on Jesus and only the woman was healed?
I'm a testimony of Kenneth Hagin's teaching, it's TRUE! No one can ever tell me it isn't true, because I got deliverance that way! If I had listened to people like Mike Winger, I would have NEVER gotten free! The devil has been doing this from the beginning, lying about God, who He is, what He does, and ALL the Gospel!
Excellent. 2 thumbs up!
Why in the pagan world the shaman exerted so much power? Because he was able to effect some miraculous acts, but was that a thing of the true God? No, today many musicians, actors, politicians, etc, make pacts with the devil in order to get ahead, just because a supernatural thing happened it's no proof of an act of God.
@@jair2454you are right . I don't think Rod Saunder or Mike Winger contradict your statement here and no sound minded Christian would too.
But what happened when satanic ' supernatural ' encounter our true God supernatural as in Apostle Paul and False Prophet, Bar Jesus or Elymas and Philip the Evangelist and False Prophet , Simon the Sorcerer....
If our God is not wise and powerful enough to reveal himself on a higher plane of Supernatural, then Satan carries the day and have his field days deceiving ,destroying and taking captive here on earth and there in his hell
Great video as always. Without anyone teaching me any specific doctrine on healing, I was saved outside the church, I saw plainly in scripture healing was the will of God.
Hey Rod, this is a winner. Great job and please don't apologize for length... I could listen to good scholarship all day! Bless You!
It seems the carnal mind is always trying to talk the renewed mind out of the dunamis power of God’s word...
Yes!🙌
@@matasaina2011 yes
Nothing is impossible for those in christ when you have absolute faith and belief in the word which is Gods will, we will not lack in anything
So true, the natural mind, the world and the devil are all trying to talk us out of the victory Jesus gave us.
What I really love about you is that you know the Bible and theology and still believes in the Holy Spirit and faith despite the controversy. Keep it up
Mr. Saunders seems to be just as " Biblically" well read and insightful as the best of them. I'm still wondering why Calvinist/Ceasationist Apologist won't refute him.
Rod it is so refreshing to here someone like yourself, sharing God's word with accuracy and soundness. In these times of so much false teaching you my brother ARE A GOD SEND. I pray for you and I commit you and your family to God. On behalf of God's children everywhere I thank you for all the timeless effort you place into these youtube video's. Thank you and bless you. You good and faithfull servant. As I know you will here when you enter Heaven.
Thank you for showing the balance and explaining so many people are quick to call “word of faith” heretics I’ve never understood this. Enjoyed the video God bless you!
I have never understood the pastors who go out of their way to tear apart the believers available power in speaking the living word over their circumstances.Sometimes I wonder if it stems from unanswered prayer of their own,as in maybe it is easier for them to believe word of faith is bogus vs wondering why they have not received their healing.Im so grateful for this channel restoring my faith in the words authority.Listening to various pastors had caused confusion and depression,their message was gods will included hardship and one even said he god has more important things to do than worry if your having a bad day.it was destroying any shred of child like faith I had.Again,thank you.please keep doing these.
Absolutely! 🤝
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Susan Zumback I have a very similar story. I was almost about to leave the faith because of the confusion. 🥴
We are no longer tossed back and forth by every wind of doctrine...I’d rather die believing in the promises of god and the power of his word than live doubting
I was THISCLOSE to believing in the teachings of Calvinist/Ceasationist .They just sound so smart and they simulate the intellect . Thanks goodness for Jew and Greek . I rather be real faithful than real intellectually simulating .
I hope Mike gets his healing.
Really enjoyed hearing your perspective. Very well balanced response.
Wow brother, I just found you as a rebottle to this Mike Winger guy. Who I know a little about. But I am thankful for your wisdom and boldness to challenge this.
Thank you again and looking forward to more of your videos.
This has to be one of your best videos! This would be great for church leaders to show during a small group Bible study or mid-week service when studying faith or prayer. Phenomenal job!
Thanks, Pastor Alan.
I just told my wife we should have our small group watch this.
Very good teaching sir! Praise God well done.
Excellent as always brother, absolutely excellent. ❤️🙌🏽🙏🏽✝️
Think you so much for opening my eyes 🙏God Bless 🙏
This is a good video. Appreciate it.
This is what I wanted to hear. Thank you.
This is good brother!! Especially about the devil not wanting Gods people to understand the power of their faith filled words. Really good Rod!
Thanks sir. I watched from the beginning till the end
Awesome video. Thanks for all you do. God bless you for your videos. I’ve gotten so much knowledge of the ways that these ain’t word of faith people think and it’s been super helpful when talking to them.
This video is absolute gold you've got a new subscriber thank you for this, I was really lost before in other preachers unbelief, teaching me that gods sovereignty won't allow us the power of healing or personal requests, teaching thats its only available to a select few prophets. Then I realised the true depth of mark 11:24 and that god isn't a respecter of persons. We all yield the same power and God rewards absolute faith and belief, its the only way to please God. Thank God for leading me to once again even more truth and wisdom. I even prayed for wisdom 5 times before I found the truth of prayer and mark 11:24 amen
Greetings from Nigeria! I have bern following on you tube for quite some time. Just watched your interview with Allan Dido on his vision of heaven and his critict calling him a charlatan!
You mentioned the blessings listeners say they received from your work is an encouragement that keeps you going. May I also say am blessed ,assisted and build up by your ministry. Thank you sooooo much for this rebuttal of Mike pressntation on MK 11:22. I will send the link to this you tube to someother church leaders and encourage them to subscribe to your UA-cam.
The prayers, efforts and sound analysis pay off by the hundred s of lives it continues to bless like me eveb after 3 years you have uploaded the rebuttal.
I got to know of your work from you friend ' the objective believer'.
Thank you once again for what you do for God's people
Derek Prince has an awesome book on this called "A Faith to Live By.". And why is Mike going to the Talmud, which is 200 years after the time of Christ when Jews start explaining the away the plain meaning of the text. Going to a Pharisee for explanation 👍
I love Derek Prince teachings.
Matthew 23:1-3. Yeshua said they were the civil authorities. One can easily dismiss anything Kenneth Hagin wrote by that same logic. Actually, the Pharisees believed in miracles. They were envious of Yeshua getting better results.
Fantastic Fantastic Fantastic!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
So glad you did this video!!!!❤
Loved the part about faith (20 minutes in)being actions. Seems to be the most misunderstood part...good summary
Thank you great word
This might be your most powerful video. God Bless you brother.
Well said Rod. Thank you.
Hi Rod, something completely different, but curious to know your view/opinion on the many videos i come across regarding end times and soon to be expected "rapture". Like for example, watchwomen 65, watchmen on the wall 88. But many more. What is your take on this topic?
This is all a part of what I refer to as eschatological excrement. I certainly believe that Jesus is coming back, and I believe that a lot of what is going on in the world is related to bible prophecy, but most of what you hear from bible prophecy "ministries" is just hype and marketing. I call Watchwoman 65 "Washwoman" 65, because she knows about as much about theology as your average housekeeper. She follows Robert Breaker who is a total nutjob. He's into numerology and predicted something big would happen in September of 2017. Nothing did.
I don't know anything about watchmen 88.
@@JewandGreek thanks for your reply!
The Word of GOD say in Romans 12:3…" according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith"
The Faith is there. It seems you have to be taught to deny it. Another detailed and well researched video Mr. Saunders, Thanks
The measure of faith in Rom 12:3 is referring to gifts such as prophecy, teaching or exhortation. This supported in the verses immediately following.
Paul was exhorting the church to think soberly as it appears that some were trying to minister in an or gift that no faith had been given for. The gifts are a matter faith and grace.
Observe Eph 4:8 then add to that 1Pet 4:10-11. Grace and Peace!
Btw, it was my pleasure to listen and watch this whole video because it actually refuted his arguments and helped show his video as ridiculous, and very religious, not Scriptural! Thanks again!
Thanks. Independently, I spoke exactly what you are saying in Wagners UA-cam comment section and I referenced Hagin's book on "The Art of Prayer".
I've noticed when people don't agree with a certain text of Scripture, they'll give you some weird explanation of the 'historical context' of the text. And such people shout everywhere, "Sola Scriptura!", but in reality they don't accept the full of counsel of God. If we don't cherry pick the Bible on issues of holiness, God's Sovereignty then the same should happen on faith, tongues and God's power
Great Video!
thanks, that was a top notch review and refutation... and yes, Mike means well, it's not that, it's just he does not grasp WOF theology and instead goes to his "traditional" sources of interpretation instead of taking the text at face value... there is a place for commentaries and interpretations, but he should discern the theology behind those commentaries and discern the text in it's own value... Mike knows the principle of that, for he does not accept calvinism, for instance... he just needs some help to understand, and yes, i would recommend that he takes some time off to read Kenneth Hagin's books... :-)
Great video 😉
Well presented - and clearly putting faithful prayer in perspective - the powerful prayer of the righteous avails much
Hi, good defense for biblical healing. Mike should have done inductive study of Mark 11:23-24 rather than deductively trying to push his own opinion against Word of faith theology. If he is critiquing it, he must have done a thorough study of it before critiquing it. He doesn't even know what he was critiquing about.
Truly truly thank God for you my dear brother! God has anointed you with a grace to lovingly expose the exposers of such great lies and hypocrisy!!
Hi Rod - very well refuted - surely very clearly stated - amen Thank God for His atoning work through the cross - Jesus said - what is easier for Me to say - your sins are forgiven you or take up your bed and walk
Mike mans well but he also does not understand word of faith theology.
I don’t either understand word of faith theology
He does seems to be a sincere, kind person. He just need, I think, to understand that without faith ,it's impossible to please God.
@@DV77737 The word at hand, in your mouth and in your heart, THAT I S THE WORD OF FAITH WHICH WE PREACH.
Because if you CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH the Lord Jesus and BELIEVE WITH YOUR HEART that God raised Him from the dead you shall be saved.
This is the word of God incorporated into WOF doctrine.
Don't confuse the two. Grace and Peace!
You're very interesting sir I've been watching you I listen to Stephen Kozar And fighting for the faith and Doreen I'm finding you pretty interesting I hope you make more videos on this, i am finding this intriguing thank you 🤔🤔
Question. If someone who stands on the Word of God for healing still hasn't received healing what then? Why aren't they healed? Is it because they didn't have enough faith? Is the reason they aren't healed their fault? There are times when people don't receive healing even if they have the faith for it. I know many people with great faith to be healed who are still sick and who have been sick for years.You need to account for that as well. So please explain why some people don't get healed because you didn't get into that in this video and I'm curious on your thoughts. Thanks.
It's difficult to say why any individual doesn't receive healing. Every case is different. But the Bible does list several barriers to answered prayer. The biggest obstacle is a lack of understanding of how biblical faith works. Many people sit around saying "I believe God will heal me" and think they have faith, but they don't. They have hope. Faith is an act, and puts things in present tense. Sometimes people are dealing with issues that were produced by their lifestyle, and they're asking for healing when what they need is to change their lifestyle. Others barriers are sin, wavering in faith, strife, or a lack of love. What many Christians do is point to some believer who doesn't get healed and conclude that it must not be God's will, but that's not how we determine God's will. If it was we'd have to conclude that the holocaust was God's will. We determine His will through His Word.
Do they not receive healing when they die and go to Heaven? Whether we receive the healing on this side of Heaven or not doesn’t change the fact that we should stand on Gods word and believe it. Theoretically if I had cancer and stood on His word for healing and believed it to my core, I would either receive healing here on earth or receive it the minute I entered heaven where there is no sickness. When you receive it shouldn’t matter. We are told to have faith in His Word whether we see it or not. Think of salvation. We have faith in our salvation, but we technically don’t see it come to pass until we die and enter the kingdom of Heaven. That doesn’t mean I’ll believe it any less on this side of heaven. That’s why I love Abraham so much. God told him he would be the father of many nations but Abraham died in faith not having seen it. Did that mean it wasn’t the will of God? Absolutely not! Read Hebrews 11. We don’t have to see things come to pass in our life to know it’s Gods will. We must think eternally not temporarily. God bless!!
Rod do you think that Christian leaders want to appear so *squeaky clean*,so *never failing*, so *all together* and respectable to unbelieving people that they refuse to risk looking silly when something doesn’t work out. It looks to me like so many would rather try to *fit in* than believe the word of God.
Do you mean they hesitate to declare anything for fear that if it does not come to pass they will look foolish?that makes sense....I’ve had some prayers answered,and some unanswered,I get back on the horse and keep riding,I’d rather try and be denied then apathetically approach the issues in life with passionless prayer.🤷♀️🤷♀️😊
No question, and it's not just with healing. A lot of "Charismatic" churches don't encourage spiritual gifts at all because they don't want to have to clean up the mess. It's inevitable that over time people are going to tire of excesses and error and gravitate toward something that's more comfortable, but the Bible tells us not to despise prophesying and forbid not to speak in tongues. God's leaders are supposed to encourage the gifts and correct the error when it surfaces, but most would rather just avoid them altogether. I went through that myself 20 years ago, and God rebuked me. We need to be willing to teach the truths we've learned over the years and deal with the inevitable fallout if we're going to see God's Kingdom advance as it should. That's why I'm doing this.
Please continue!!!
Susan Zumback yes that’s what I meant, I’m the same!👍
Jew and Greek thanks for what you’re doing. It’s great to have some charismatic apologists.
Thanks Rod, I thought of adding something to this but find I can't, I think you've encapsulated the correct view perfectly. King James only
Why didn't Paul confess his thorn in the flesh away? Why didn't Paul tell Timothy to keep confessing his healing? I've never read where Jesus confessed a mountain into the sea. Jesus said all things r possible in prayer but u do not see Jesus using it to get rich, popular, etc. When some of the apostles were suffering horrible deaths for Christ, why did they not just confess their way out of trouble and stay healthy, wealthy, etc?
8:20 God never said no. People assume(read into the text) that God said no, which iit never mentions. Rather Jesus decided to submit to the plan of the Father to redeem man.
If the answer of God was a definite NO for all time, why would Jesus say, "Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?"(Matthew 26:53) in response to Peter trying to protect Jesus from being captured by the Roman soldiers?
Like Jesus said, he could've chosen to call on God to send those angels to slay all his captors and leave to heaven. And we'll all be in trouble. It wasn't out of the question
Mike Winger is quite reasonable in some areas. I think he is the type of guy that it would be nice for you and him to spend a few hours together, shake hands, break bread and open the scriptures. I so much appreciate his stand against Calvinism.
We've talked a couple of times and I got the impression that he doesn't want to talk anymore.
Don't think you will read this. My mother just passed away March 5th. She was suffering from dementia and kidney disease. She had faith that she would recover, her dementia was causing voices that tormented her. She was never healed. However, she went in peace and understood that she would come to know why she wasn't healed. The way I see it. Its a win, win situation.
22.55 Did Spurgeon and the old men of faith miss this active faith?
Kenneth Hagin's powerful testimony already speaks volumes concerning the power of standing on God's word for healing and even your own faithful experience to act upon the word of God that had such a desirable effect.
This makes one's heart leap for joy in praise towards God, Who is still very much relevant in this day and age and with us to partake of (Heb.11:6, 1 Thes.2:13) - if we welcome His word (not from men) but as it is in truth - the word of God which also works in everyone who believes
- and so will tip the scales for all the petitions and healings in the Name of Jesus (likewise)
- no matter what opponents think or have to say contrary to those of like precious faith
Unfortunately - Mike's interpretation feels like it's dragging many back into a form of godliness but without power
Mike Winger: “You can trust the promise that you’re literally saved by grace through faith”
Also Mike Winger: “Nothing else in the New Testament is literally true”
Mike Winger: “Nothing else in the New Testament is literally true”... Scary thought. I'm going to hope he didn't mean that literally.
What about Paul's thorn in the flesh he said he glory his afflictions which they say is sickness such as blindness that God never healed.
Here is a good explanation: www.awmi.net/reading/teaching-articles/pauls_thorn/
"which they say "... and there is a hint to the answer of your question. It's what "they" say - not what the Bible says.
The Bible never mentions what it was or hint at what it was - it could’ve been a light sickness, am emotional scar, a memory etc.
@@rukevweb5674 The Bible says it was a messenger (angel) from Satan and the context of the passage is the persecution, the beatings, the dangers that Paul went through to preach the gospel. Nothing about sickness, emotional scars...
Onesimus Tim Thank you, that explanation really helps.
IMHO, mr. Winger probably needs to do a heart searching and rethink his position. He may not actually mean to, but misrepresenting someone is the same as lying. Lying is something the devil is the father of.
This is a really good explanation. Thanks Rod.
Mike Winger's idea of faith is just misconstrued. He sees it as weak and passive..so it's no wonder he got the rest wrong. I'm not sure how Abraham offered his son Isaac on an altar weakly and passively. Faith is active because you accept God's word as true and act upon it
So sad about Winger’s direction. Falling into the same old traps 😢
Is there a reason why you took half of the scripture off James 5:16 ? ... I feel like the scripture is saying salvation power not just any power for anything you want ? If you put the first half of the scripture with it as well ...
The context of James 5 is not salvation. He's writing to believers. He's talking about the power of the prayer of faith. I didn't quote the first part of the verse because I didn't think it was relevant.
Jesus made a statement on one occasion, I haven't seen such great faith in all Israel. (The soldier he was talking about apparently didn't have a "weak faith".
I'm not sure how someone could read the Bible and not understand that God wants us healed. It's everywhere. I believe Kenneth Hagin printed a little book of healing Scriptures. Hagin has an excellent Bible study guides.
If God wants us "healed," why does He send the illnesses and diseases and conditions in the first place. Then there's the guy with the hair....he can "lengthen legs" but can't heal his heart condition....
really like and 100% biblical in content
Galatians 4:14
Problem: when people name it and claim it hundreds of times and nothing happens. How do you explain that?
You might have to do it for 10-20 years
Abraham started calling himself the father of many nations before he ever saw it. In fact, he never saw it. People have a tendency to view things with a temporary perspective rather than an eternal one. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it wasn’t the will of God and you shouldn’t declare it.
@@Maria-zr7ph I have been saying for four years. I have won the powerball. I have won the megamillions. I have not won but I still say it because I believe the word of God in mark 11:23, you shall have whatsoever you say
@@thinkthoughtsforhours6052 Be not unwise but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
We can only what God has spoken over us.
Remember faith comes by hearing the word.
We can't put God in a box. Grace and Peace!
@@Maria-zr7ph can you tell me where Abraham said he was the father of many nations ?
I’m sure Mike would be willing to actually talk with you about this. Maybe you should reach out and make a video with him.
Mike and I have talked a couple of times. I saw no flexibility in his theology so I don't really see the point in any further discussions.
I wonder how many word of faith people wore mask and took the shot. I wonder how many go to doctors for ailments. Are the folks in word of faith healthier than those who simply trust the author and finisher of their faith? Do word of faith people always get healed? Are they condemned for not having enough faith if they don’t get well?
Yes, many did but not out of fear. We are lead of the Spirit. I wore a mask so not to cause others to stumble and get in strife because my faith works by love. I go to the doctor and find out what I need to stand in faith about, again I seek God. There are many reasons people don't receive healing; Mark 11:25 if I don't forgive, I'm not forgiven. If I'm disobedient I am outside the will of God and in sin. I am not qualified to judge someone else's heart nor can I know it. If I condemn I will be condemned.
Good - now dare to tell this to John McCarter (The ~ greatest theologian of this times. He has a special place in his heart for the word of faith teachers - as you probably know ). The theory of theology does not make me "feel" like a true follower of Christ, but a follower of an 'approved religion'. The theory is ok but at one point in time something has to happen or follow (healings, miracles, life transformations etc)... if you want to look like Christ or if Christ is your model. It looks like anyone that follows Christ'a example (Really believing God's word and preaching the Gospel with passion and signs following ) is perceived as an evil or false teacher - in the eyes of our modern day theologians (or modern day Pharisees?). I believe these would be the first who would crucify Christ all over again, because Christ would not follow the protocols and the expectations of our greatest theologians. Yes Jesus took upon Himself the curse of the law Deuteronomy 28 (All kinds of sicknesses and situations...) and yes Isaiah 53:4, 1 Peter 2:24, Mattew 8:17
I like Mike. But I have noticed lately that where he comes from (calvary chapel doctrine) he is already flawed. When ur origins come from a background that poo poos walking in gifts today, u will attack anything that suggests u can have from God what you seek, by faith.
Yes - thank you again for the clearer view concerning - the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much
You clearly debunked Mike's insignificant and passive approach of wrongfully praying the prayer of faith, in other words, his wrongful ideology through his lack of understanding and teaching, which will keep many frustrated with powerless results
- we need to reiterate the substance (hypostasis) of faith (Heb.11:1) - hence the assurance of faith (plerophoria - to wear fully - Col.2:2 - the armor, weapons, medals, raiment - carrying the full assurance that healing is God's will).
Hence holding forth the banner of lawful possession and authority (knowing and demonstrating; acknowledging boldly (1 Jn.5:14) our right to proceed on the platform of faith (our lawful possession = title deed - being persuaded of our legal implications of the atoning work of Christ - Heb.11:1) in order to receive our petitions - 1 Pet.5:14
If it is of God then it should be for the whole world. What about those in the poorest countries that the only wayer they have is muddy water full of malaria. Where are their riches? Where is their healing? They're dying of starvation.
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While I agree it isn’t a necessity to say ‘if it be thy will’ already knowing it’s God’s will according to scripture (baptism for example), at 15:59; right after making this point you say ‘similarly, we know God’s will is healing’. ‘Healing’ is a loaded word however. In scripture it’s clear it isn’t always God’s will for physical healing. The apostle Paul; a healer who God refused the healing of as an example. Yet he certainly didn’t lack in faith. ‘Healing’ contextually is also used as a spiritual matter in scripture; “by his stripes we are healed”, meaning through his sacrifice we are eternally ‘healed’
You're assuming that Paul's thorn in the flesh was some sort of sickness, which the text doesn't say. Paul said that it was a messenger of Satan. The Greek for "messenger" is _angelos_ which is usually translated "angel". This was an entity, not a sickness. This messenger of Satan stirred up trouble for Paul everywhere he went, which is what the Lord told Paul would happen when he was saved. He would suffer a lot. (Acts 9:16)
"By His stripes" is Isaiah 53:5. Matthew 8:16,17 tells us that the context of Isaiah's atonement passage includes physical healing. Don't conflate healing (which is for sick people this side of the grave) with glorification (which is for saints who have passed on).
7 So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong. - 2 Corinthians 12:7-10
Not all our prayers will be answered by God in order to fulfill our hearts desire. It has nothing to do with our intent or earnestness.
Gods answer to Paul isn't a negative one " my grace is sufficient " means exactly that. I believe the passage you quote is Paul's testimony of healing in answer to prayer when he was attacked by the devil . Aways stick to the king James version when seeking out the deep things of God.
He wants to beat up a scripture instead of accepting it as it is, such ignorance! It's not prosperity preachers saying it, It's Jesus who said it! Mark 11:23 Just read it and stop trying to interpret it in your own light!
If Winger spent this much time trying to undermine Gods Word , He needs to think about His priorities.
Just his stammering.over trying to debunk Word of Faith has taken him into a bad place.
Jesus is not interested in moving Mountains. He is interested in moving kingdoms. A mountain in scripture is a kingdom. Lets all pray to move the mountain of the United States back to its roots
Mountains also represent obstacles. In that day there was no earthmoving equipment, no tunnels, no helicopters ... etc. If there was a mountain between you and your destination you had to go around it unless you were young, strong, and healthy enough to climb it.
35.11 Read Kenneth Hagin books? Never!
I think you need to go back to your Bible and you would do well to listen to people like Mike Winger! God's will is sovereign.
Of course God's will is sovereign. Nobody is disputing that. But God's will is revealed in his word, and his word tells us how to speak and act on our faith to receive what he has provided for us. Mike wants to make this passage into some sort of figurative reference to the temple, but Jesus said nothing about the temple. He was telling his disciples how Faith Works. If you ignore that you're ignoring the clear meaning of the text.
@@JewandGreek why then are so many people still battling financially and going forward week after week for the same healing and they are speaking the word often daily? God allows things to happen to teach us and grow us. I was in Pentecostal churches since 1976 and I thank the Lord that He opened my eyes in 2018. People are pursuing "things" and consoling themselves that they are praying in Jesus name and God's will is for them to prosper, but it is not God's will for people to be pursuing prosperity.
@@JewandGreek ua-cam.com/video/xwbrRei4M8w/v-deo.html A video I have just done on 3 John vs 2
@@brendacarstens2789 Jesus said Give and it shall be given to you. Paul the Apostle said God shall supply All Your Needs.
Jesus said ask In Faith nothing doubting.
Jesus said it, not the local pastor, not the traveling evangelist, not that woman who calls herself a prophetess and teaches the people of God to worship idols. Jesus said it. Grace and Peace!
@@brendacarstens2789 if God's Word isn't working for someone in their life, that person needs to change, to get into alignment with God. You might try spending more time in the Word, and praying for discernment.