CORRECTION: In the episode, we said the new wing splice is for the SkyGuardian aircraft. That is incorrect. It was designed to requirements similar to those of the SkyGuardian, but which platform it will be used on has not been determined.
Shame there was no footage of chips flying on that additive part. If that same process can be used for Aluminium, the companies custom manufacturing race & street engines will be very interested - the materials and machining savings on an engine block or cylinder head would be massive, along with being able to print in better water galleries for coolant passage, making those engines lighters and more reliable. One-off parts, such as a replacement water pump for a historically signifigant vehicle, also drop in price. I believe the Rocket Labs "Rutherford" rocket engine is made in a similar way, as are few of the newer Small-Sat launch vehicles, along with at least one using this sort of method to print the main fuel tanks of their booster.
A retired Engineer I have been 3D Printing for over 8 years to make parts for my 1950 Model Trains. I worked in Medical, Aerospace and Automation systems when working. I could see the possibilities to get the heat on these exotic materials was a problem. Then I saw concrete printing house frames. And FFP is making energy from Plasma Arcs on a small scale. Plasma ??? Now I see this and it is heart warming to see Plasma controlled to melt Titanium ina highly more efficient and effective process to use less material in waste and speed up production of critical parts. Very good work and I hope is able to be miniaturized for space station operations to fabricate spares as needed from rolls of wire. Point of use Production meets Plasma Deposition it a very good thing. Add some AI to the control logic for perfect print 100% of the time and get part Cad data for every viable part required, beam up new improved part shapes as needed, wow. D
22 minutes repeating the same 3 PowerPoint bullet points. Let’s see the finished DED part against the aluminum original. The DED part shown is far from finished. Not much meat to the story, just hype. The post DED machining of the Ti part is possibly the most difficult aspect of the fabrication of this component, so how is it being accomplished and how much scrap is created?
From the couple of seconds, I saw of the deposition process I can partially reverse engineer it. They seem to be using a High Frequency Pulse Plasma welder (similar to the airco pulsearc). They are also using an electromagnetic arc manipulator used in shipbuilding to oscillate the arc back and forth. They obviously have some custom software controlling the welder and oscillator. I have often wondered how long it will be before we have CLOSED LOOP additive manufacturing that monitors the quality of the part while it is being made. If the process detects a defect in the weld puddle, it should be able to fix it in real-time.
@@dubyas1989 sorry but I have been a welder most of my life. Tell me which part in inaccurate. Are you saying that’s NOT capped plasma with electro magnetic control of the arc? Are you a janitor?
@@dubyas1989 So tell me exactly where my statement is false. Did I SAY I reverse engineered the whole process? NO. But If I wanted to I absolutely could.
3D printing Titanium should be a game changer for airline parts and other industry needing light, extremely tough parts!! I'm sure the DOD, NASA, Boeing, Northrop, etc.. are looking at this very closely.
FYI, "Sky Guardian" is a renamed Predator drone, and the "other types of equipment" it carries are explosives. To kill people with. If it was OK they wouldn't need to Orwell it.
@@arbjful It's the reality of life. Look at human history. It's all war, with some breaks for fresh air now and then. It's okay to hate them but you better hope your country has the best.
@@arbjfulyou hate weapons of war because you’re fed and have comforts of western living. Take those away and you’d be the first volunteer to go to war no doubt. lol
Thank you both for representing the industry. The trust you have built with factory suppliers and end users, esp. defense, gives all of us inspiration to see what's possible with AD.
@@johnshite4656 I worked in BPR and we used analyze total cost of operations a lot. Everything was waste except the steps you can eliminate. Reducing down time, travel time. Delays and rejected parts all help.
I was surprised at how strong 3D printed metals were with the right machine settings and processes used. Less wastage and shapes that were virtually impossible to machine are some of the advantages of additive technologies with 3D printing only improving with time. 😎🇦🇺👍
Question? Has anybody done a STRESS test or a DESTRUCTION test on a additive part vs machined part? Eliminates waste on a 3D additive part vs machined part.
With respect, if you are aiming this at a technical audience, maybe present less blah-blah and more specific information at a higher level? In the first two minutes you mentioned the plant was in NY twice. I hope your next video is tighter and more informative :)
So is the END PRODUCT PART - LIGHTER WEIGHT. How much lighter weight is the DED produced Titanium Part (at the same strength performance delivering part of the existing/previously used Fully forged Aluminium alloy - CNC Cut out part. 5% lighter weight 10% lighter weight 15% lighter weight 20% lighter weight 25% lighter weight 30% lighter weight 35% lighter weight 40% lighter weight 45% lighter weight 50% lighter weight 55% lighter weight 60% lighter weight 65% lighter weight 70% lighter weight 80% lighter weight 85% lighter weight 90% lighter weight 96% lighter weight 100% lighter weight > 100% lighter weight PLEASE ask the General Atomics company - to answer this question - and give answer as a reply to this comment AND update the video with the information - in the video OR in the description section OR in an additional comment by you placed at the top of the comments section OR with an updated - more information filled video at the ALL ACCESS spot on your website.
Weight change actually was not the outcome sought with this part. Volume change is more like it - titanium allows for the same strength in a part that is less bulky, and takes up less space in the complete assembly.
Very impressive part and tech. Must have a protective atmosphere for the wing splice deposition, the smaller part shown earlier had some oxidation not present on the big part.
While Boeing has had a lot of problems the 787 has increased scrutiny/certification over previous airplanes. They were pretending 737 max was just another 737 and didn't do all the cert work 787 got.
I can't pay attention to the subject when he's waving his arms around, and his voice doesn't help. Not subscribing here anyway, even though I'm interested, too much talking head fluff, too little engineering.
With all the different types of wire available nearly any composition an materials abilities can be made !!! With very little wasted material and very complicated and complex designs made possible !!! Add computer design with expected goals ... As of yet the impossible suddenly becomes possible !!!
Listened to the whole video without hearing what I wanted although possibly expected because if the most critical secrets were described then anyone might copy the process By this I mean that what was described was all matter of fact like creating a rough model of the finished product to minimize machining is common sense particularly when working with as rare, expensive and hard a metal as titanium. Although I'd expect scraps to be recycled, tiny particles approaching dust might be difficult to handle. But the really big and obvious issue is the strength of the final product using deposition because unlike forging or machining starting from an ingot the internal crystalline bonding structure is usually considered broken. So does this Norwegian company do the deposition in some special way? From the name of the process there is a suggestion that extremely high heat is applied like an arc welder but even that might not create the internal bonds to make 3D printing compete fully with forging.
I am thrilled and deeply grateful to witness that Yankee ingenuity remains vibrant in America. This enduring spirit fills me with hope for a bright future for our nation.
So when will a home do it yourself become available ??? Need a tool part or whatever print one ... An entire engine could be made with very little machining...
this is like that article I just read about time being hypothesized as being purely quantum, and yet an illusion, but the article never goes into a semblance of depth into the subject. just stuff like they are trying to teach a 5 year old. if all they produce is stuff that doesnt challenge the public, they will always be stuck at "dumb"
That part still needs to be (finish) machined, that was stated but perhaps not that clearly put. Obviously much less machining and far few chips that starting from a billet.
cool, hope aluminum and energy problems will be solved soon and I can print myself a liveaboard katamaran fully electrical covered with solarpanels like a greenhouse, powering all the appliances and storing excess in batteries and maybe hydrogen for a more conventional backup
Can somebody tell this guy to stop moving his hands and gesturing like this is a kindergarten class? The woman does fine. These are part manufacturing, not teaching how to participate in class
The properties that make Titanium desirable for use in highly demanding applications also make Ti very difficult to fabricate parts from. The Soviets wanted to make a Nuclear submarine because of these very properties "The practical problems with the design quickly became apparent and in 1963 the design team was replaced" (Wikipedia - Alfa-class submarine). The advancements described in this video offer new opportunities to revisit use of Ti in innovative ways.
Depends on grade, mix of tipes of cristals. As in steel, more strength less corrosion resistance. But for most, titanium is one of the best choices. But dont forget electrochemical corrosion, contact whit other metals.
Damn some people have smart and interesting prozesses. I would Love to Work in Industries Like this but I feel Not experienced enough. But I am also to old to Just Switch industrys😅
@@dubyas1989 Hi, first of all thank you for encouraging me. I should maybe explain my comment a little. I am a 3d artist and have worked in a company where one of my tasks was to prepare archaeological finds for 3d printing. So I'm not completely new but I don't have enough practical experience in industrial printing and I've never been a machine operator. I would like to change but I have some responsibilities and therefore I can't start anywhere as a trainee, which means I lack the knowledge and I am not in the financial situation to build it up in a company. I am studying a lot myself but I feel like before I realy worked in a workshop on the mashines I dont feel good aplaying.
@@PeirotheFirescare hey I started 8 years with a tiny $150 3d printer and free CAD software. Learned everything on line. NOW I just completed a whole new Midel train tender for my 1950s American Flyer. Trucks, Chassis. Body and stuffed with new internet of things Learned on line too. Digital sound, fan driven Smoke, synchronized Puff & Chuff. Lots of fun stuff. It takes time and patience but NOT a big bag of money to explore. Do it! Dennis
Wouldn't laser Metal 3d Printing be more efficient and produce almost production level parts and only need minimal tooling. Such as GE X Line 2000R , Similar machines used by Adam Savage in making the Iron man titanium suit. I can see how this Plasma DED process is better then straight block cnc milling. But next to using a laser 3d metal printer the plasma looks like a hot mess.
Nice commercial for sure. Military products have always been a driver for developments. The costs are almost irrelevant and often the new technologies are then adopted in the civilian sector. That is what I see here. The print here in the video will probably be pushed aside and covered up afterwards. Until it is pushed out again to show how great it is, etc.
You want to minimize welding in airframe components because you cannot guarantee that the weld is as strong as a solid block and causes inconsistent material properties that can lead to fracture caused by metal fatigue. Welding also may cause warpage of the part. In this case you minimize labor, need no fixturing and it is made in 1 step. You are adding multiple steps if you say welded plates together. You have to cut the plates (very expensive in titanium), fixture them, weld them, test the welds for consistency and penetration dye, then fixture in a machine and mill it (extremely expensive). This is as simple as pressing go on the machine and then voila there is your part.
Interesting content. One comment is that you’re pretty repetitive in the final edit. You might be able to make the video significantly more succinct by removing all the duplication as this didn’t need to be 23 minutes long.
I honestly don't understand this drones are supposed to be cheaper to make Aunt buy so why would you make the wings out of a more expensive material like titanium when you we're using a cheaper material aluminum that doesn't really make sense to me
Sounds like it is more expensive than just using aluminum. I got an offer at an aerospace 3d printing company in Knoxville, TN and they only offered me $12 an hour and I have a degree and experience!!!Absolutely ridiculous and insulting! These companies cheap out on paying employees cause everything else cost so much money.
They say the opposite. If you make the part from aluminum you start from a block with the overall dimensions and you have to remove 90% machining. So you are paying a lot for the raw material and a lot for the machining (time, tooling...). For big titanium parts, it is difficult to make the above in a cost effective manner. But if you start with a preform, the case is completely different. In this same channel, there's an example at NASA of big parts being made in titanium thanks to additive manufacturing. Why would they change the part and the processes if it is not to save in costs? Look for a company where they value you more, good luck!
Not eney more and it seems that new suplier has made a co.kup. Big aircraft manufacturers haw sounded the alarm that titanium parts are not the grade they shoud be. Hm, they didnt hear of metal testing before use as it seems...
The sucky bit was, it’s a killing machine. Humans are like a mouse, creating the ultimate mouse trap. If only there was a way to focus all that energy towards making a better world. 🙁
Interesting comment. Why do you think this might be the case? How long would it of taken to lay that part down on a Meltio? The wire diameter is nearly three times smaller. Remember this is a production piece. Is it possible for Meltio to lay down such a large piece efficiently?
@@78bookem I'm not sure as to how long it would've taken the Meltio M600 to lay down the same piece, but given they ability for the head to be put on a robot arm, I think it would've been able to accomplish the same task with off the shelf wire in an efficient manner. The Meltio can accomplish production pieces all the same.
As someone who literally works at Norsk making these parts, NO. It’s missing quite a few features that make depositing titanium possible for aerospace applications.
To truly appreciate this process one has to watch documentaries on the hell it was to develop the SR-71 Blackbird (90% Titanium) because of the fractious reactive properties of the metal, where even seasonal changes in the chlorine levels in the local water used in manufacturing caused it to corrode. Now you just put a pile of Titanium dioxide powder in a vacuum chamber, hit a button and you have your part. Some things never change though: back then most of the world's titanium came from communist Russia necessitating a CIA operation where they posed as a fake European buyer to hustle the Reds for the Blackbird's Titanium. Today it comes from communist China, but a "communism" whereby over 100 of the Chinese politburo members are billionaires. In short, they're businessmen.
It is aircrafts if there are more than one aircraft and more than one type of aircraft. So if there were 3 Boeing 747s and 3 777s that would be aircrafts.
If the USA can 3D print titanium parts, why didn’t Boeing buy titanium alloy parts from a US supplier for the Starliner? Instead, Boeing approved replacing the titanium alloy parts with aluminum alloy parts manufactured in India for the Starliner, which caused the Starliner to become stranded in space. This situation may endanger the lives of all the astronauts aboard the ISS.
All these "commercial space companies" are garbage. Give American control of Space back to NASA exclusively, fund them like we mean it. Artemis is a disaster too, and SpaceX is run by a con man.
yes lets play the same stupid clips over and over. lost interest when all I was listening to was slow-talk about blah blah blah. I begin scanning ahead and all I see if the same crap : clip - someone going blahh blah blah - same clips - blah blah blah who cares? youtube is flooded with bloated crap. this just added itself to the list. I'll wait for someone else to provide pertinent information at less of a cost to my time.
lol this guys are not really masters of their craft who ever ready from a screen is because they don’t really understand what are they talking about if casting allow aluminum are very realistic and reliable like Ferrari engines or formula one components the melting titanium could change the property of the alloy besides titanium is very limited like we have to buy our from Russian to build the SR-71 blackbird so it is a good plan but the manufacturing is not very efficient
Benefits of titanium: almost as strong as steel. As light weight as aluminum. Extremely abrasive resistant Cons of titanium: Extremely bad at holding a sharp edge ( so very/Extremely bad for any kind of cutting tools )
This was the least impressive part made by Norsk Titanium! Norsk Titanium is the only additive manufacturing company in the world with FAA approval for making critical components such as blades for turbofan engines etc. This video missed the point an lent the ear mostly to a mediocre drone producer insted of focusing on the real story here! Sorry, but thumbs down!
CORRECTION: In the episode, we said the new wing splice is for the SkyGuardian aircraft. That is incorrect. It was designed to requirements similar to those of the SkyGuardian, but which platform it will be used on has not been determined.
Shame there was no footage of chips flying on that additive part. If that same process can be used for Aluminium, the companies custom manufacturing race & street engines will be very interested - the materials and machining savings on an engine block or cylinder head would be massive, along with being able to print in better water galleries for coolant passage, making those engines lighters and more reliable. One-off parts, such as a replacement water pump for a historically signifigant vehicle, also drop in price.
I believe the Rocket Labs "Rutherford" rocket engine is made in a similar way, as are few of the newer Small-Sat launch vehicles, along with at least one using this sort of method to print the main fuel tanks of their booster.
How come the titanium didn't change color with the heat of the plasma?
It must be cool to aid in preventing warping too :)
Sure😉
I like to see the stress test + vibration test + shock test.
Isn't there testing to ensure proper constructively for those wondering for investments?
A retired Engineer I have been 3D Printing for over 8 years to make parts for my 1950 Model Trains. I worked in Medical, Aerospace and Automation systems when working. I could see the possibilities to get the heat on these exotic materials was a problem. Then I saw concrete printing house frames. And FFP is making energy from Plasma Arcs on a small scale. Plasma ??? Now I see this and it is heart warming to see Plasma controlled to melt Titanium ina highly more efficient and effective process to use less material in waste and speed up production of critical parts. Very good work and I hope is able to be miniaturized for space station operations to fabricate spares as needed from rolls of wire. Point of use Production meets Plasma Deposition it a very good thing. Add some AI to the control logic for perfect print 100% of the time and get part Cad data for every viable part required, beam up new improved part shapes as needed, wow. D
soviet union used printed metal parts since 1965
USA from early 1900's. It's not the same, it's not additive manufacturing. @@jefreyjefrey6349
22 minutes repeating the same 3 PowerPoint bullet points. Let’s see the finished DED part against the aluminum original. The DED part shown is far from finished. Not much meat to the story, just hype. The post DED machining of the Ti part is possibly the most difficult aspect of the fabrication of this component, so how is it being accomplished and how much scrap is created?
I was waiting for the finished side by side view too.
Exactly, this video is a waist of time.
Not to downplay how cool the printing is but the machining on that part is still very impressive those deep slots in particular
I like to hear titanium being less expensive than aluminum
From the couple of seconds, I saw of the deposition process I can partially reverse engineer it.
They seem to be using a High Frequency Pulse Plasma welder (similar to the airco pulsearc).
They are also using an electromagnetic arc manipulator used in shipbuilding to oscillate the arc back and forth.
They obviously have some custom software controlling the welder and oscillator.
I have often wondered how long it will be before we have CLOSED LOOP additive manufacturing that monitors the quality of the part while it is being made.
If the process detects a defect in the weld puddle, it should be able to fix it in real-time.
@@dubyas1989 sorry but I have been a welder most of my life. Tell me which part in inaccurate. Are you saying that’s NOT capped plasma with electro magnetic control of the arc?
Are you a janitor?
@@dubyas1989 I watched the video AGAIN. That is 100% a Plasma Arc manipulated with an EM field. Quit trying to fool a welder that is now an EE.
@@dubyas1989 Bless your little heart!
@@dubyas1989 So tell me exactly where my statement is false.
Did I SAY I reverse engineered the whole process?
NO.
But If I wanted to I absolutely could.
@@stuartgray5877 sure you could champ.
3D printing Titanium should be a game changer for airline parts and other industry needing light, extremely tough parts!! I'm sure the DOD, NASA, Boeing, Northrop, etc.. are looking at this very closely.
Nobody wants be be a manufacturer, everyone wants to be an information company.
☠BLACK BARON☠ This is funny. Information companies for comfis and lazybones.
FYI, "Sky Guardian" is a renamed Predator drone, and the "other types of equipment" it carries are explosives. To kill people with. If it was OK they wouldn't need to Orwell it.
I hate weapons of war
@@arbjful It's the reality of life. Look at human history. It's all war, with some breaks for fresh air now and then. It's okay to hate them but you better hope your country has the best.
Still a device to use against us in the future. Hovering over our cities.
@@arbjfulyou hate weapons of war because you’re fed and have comforts of western living. Take those away and you’d be the first volunteer to go to war no doubt. lol
US Military UAVs are used for surveillance WAY more than lethal purposes.
Thank you both for representing the industry. The trust you have built with factory suppliers and end users, esp. defense, gives all of us inspiration to see what's possible with AD.
Saying that additive manufacturing eliminates waste is incorrect. Reducing waste is more accurate.
In subtractive manufacturing the 'waste' gets recycled, so is it really even waste? The wasteful part would be the belts and bits and blades I guess.
@@johnshite4656 I worked in BPR and we used analyze total cost of operations a lot. Everything was waste except the steps you can eliminate. Reducing down time, travel time. Delays and rejected parts all help.
I was surprised at how strong 3D printed metals were with the right machine settings and processes used.
Less wastage and shapes that were virtually impossible to machine are some of the advantages of additive technologies with 3D printing only improving with time.
😎🇦🇺👍
Been FDM printing aince 2012 and have long thought of preheating the previous layer for better layer adhesion. This is fascinating stuff.
Where do you get your titanium, where is it mined? Is it a locality mined priduct?
Question?
Has anybody done a STRESS test or a DESTRUCTION test on a additive part vs machined part?
Eliminates waste on a 3D additive part vs machined part.
With respect, if you are aiming this at a technical audience, maybe present less blah-blah and more specific information at a higher level? In the first two minutes you mentioned the plant was in NY twice. I hope your next video is tighter and more informative :)
So is the END PRODUCT PART - LIGHTER WEIGHT.
How much lighter weight is the DED produced Titanium Part (at the same strength performance delivering part of the existing/previously used Fully forged Aluminium alloy - CNC Cut out part.
5% lighter weight
10% lighter weight
15% lighter weight
20% lighter weight
25% lighter weight
30% lighter weight
35% lighter weight
40% lighter weight
45% lighter weight
50% lighter weight
55% lighter weight
60% lighter weight
65% lighter weight
70% lighter weight
80% lighter weight
85% lighter weight
90% lighter weight
96% lighter weight
100% lighter weight
> 100% lighter weight
PLEASE ask the General Atomics company - to answer this question - and give answer as a reply to this comment AND update the video with the information - in the video OR in the description section OR in an additional comment by you placed at the top of the comments section OR with an updated - more information filled video at the ALL ACCESS spot on your website.
Weight change actually was not the outcome sought with this part. Volume change is more like it - titanium allows for the same strength in a part that is less bulky, and takes up less space in the complete assembly.
It's about the $$ "buy to fly ratios"...weight doesn't matter as much in UAVs.
I can see this being used to make Titanium engine blocks! 🙌🙌
Thank you both for the information.
Very impressive part and tech. Must have a protective atmosphere for the wing splice deposition, the smaller part shown earlier had some oxidation not present on the big part.
Best video I’ve seen you create. Wild tech!
Amazingly Brilliant! Thank you for sharing this video.
Boeing 787 you say..... some of the strictest standards you say....
While Boeing has had a lot of problems the 787 has increased scrutiny/certification over previous airplanes. They were pretending 737 max was just another 737 and didn't do all the cert work 787 got.
Wait plasma melting-is this just welding beads of titanium and then post weld machining?
The Norsk guy reading from a screen in mono tone kind of ruined the video for me.
I skipped those parts.... end wasn't really worth it either though.
So many amazing opportunities from this. Imagine we are on the doorstep of being able to make lots of the tech from the SR more every day usable!
OMG, That guy is just to "Flamboyant" for me to watch.......
Ok Mr Sensitve.
What.
It’s unwatchable
I can't pay attention to the subject when he's waving his arms around, and his voice doesn't help. Not subscribing here anyway, even though I'm interested, too much talking head fluff, too little engineering.
@@ChimeraActualAnd she didn’t even take her shirt off 🤷♂️
peace could breakout at any moment...
With all the different types of wire available nearly any composition an materials abilities can be made !!!
With very little wasted material and very complicated and complex designs made possible !!!
Add computer design with expected goals ...
As of yet the impossible suddenly becomes possible !!!
Man, I hope layer adhesion is no longer an issue
Very impressive, things have sure moved on since Kelly Johnson's team built the SR71.
finally a spacecraft a little bit stronger than aluminum
The Hindenburg used duraluminum.
No mention of the printed part strength % compared to the same part obtain with conventional methods
This looks like a fancy way to lay wire.
Would have been more fun to watch if Stephanie was the star.
Listened to the whole video without hearing what I wanted although possibly expected because if the most critical secrets were described then anyone might copy the process
By this I mean that what was described was all matter of fact like creating a rough model of the finished product to minimize machining is common sense particularly when working with as rare, expensive and hard a metal as titanium. Although I'd expect scraps to be recycled, tiny particles approaching dust might be difficult to handle.
But the really big and obvious issue is the strength of the final product using deposition because unlike forging or machining starting from an ingot the internal crystalline bonding structure is usually considered broken.
So does this Norwegian company do the deposition in some special way? From the name of the process there is a suggestion that extremely high heat is applied like an arc welder but even that might not create the internal bonds to make 3D printing compete fully with forging.
Boeing and Airbus tested it and found out it was the same strength.
They have taken crystal formation into consideration.
Why not Boron?? Vs TI???
🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
I am thrilled and deeply grateful to witness that Yankee ingenuity remains vibrant in America. This enduring spirit fills me with hope for a bright future for our nation.
It’s a Norwegian company
Really Excellent video and information! Thank You🛡️
So when will a home do it yourself become available ???
Need a tool part or whatever print one ...
An entire engine could be made with very little machining...
this is like that article I just read about time being hypothesized as being purely quantum, and yet an illusion, but the article never goes into a semblance of depth into the subject. just stuff like they are trying to teach a 5 year old. if all they produce is stuff that doesnt challenge the public, they will always be stuck at "dumb"
Hope they can do this with vehicles eventually
That part still needs to be (finish) machined, that was stated but perhaps not that clearly put. Obviously much less machining and far few chips that starting from a billet.
It was stated very clearly.
As close to a Star Trek Duplicator as we have came yet !!!
less repetition would be nice. impressive unmachined finish though 👍
So cool.
Hopefully the wing stays on.
So, why not 3D print aluminum?
So when are building sized printers an robots going to build entire systems ???
That particular part looks like it would be easier to just cast.
It wouldn’t be as strong
cool, hope aluminum and energy problems will be solved soon and I can print myself a liveaboard katamaran fully electrical covered with solarpanels like a greenhouse, powering all the appliances and storing excess in batteries and maybe hydrogen for a more conventional backup
truly amazing
You should see what we have under lock and key
Can somebody tell this guy to stop moving his hands and gesturing like this is a kindergarten class? The woman does fine. These are part manufacturing, not teaching how to participate in class
(perhaps he is Italian and you just insulted him for being himself?)
I have noticed it’s usually the guy who does the hand waving, while the female stays quiet
You must be really proud of `the other types of payload `.
Id like to see printed titanium applications in the mountain bike industry
We've covered a 3d printed titanium mountain bike part in the past! Take a look: ua-cam.com/video/vK-zH3aYTEA/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=10
I can't afford a $40k bicycle
any specialists here? is titanium not as problematic as in marine use? bcs of the catalyst effects destroying everything around? maybe some coating?
The properties that make Titanium desirable for use in highly demanding applications also make Ti very difficult to fabricate parts from. The Soviets wanted to make a Nuclear submarine because of these very properties "The practical problems with the design quickly became apparent and in 1963 the design team was replaced" (Wikipedia - Alfa-class submarine). The advancements described in this video offer new opportunities to revisit use of Ti in innovative ways.
Titanium is very resistant to chloride corrosion. Aluminium isn’t.
Very useful for sea skimming vehicles.
Depends on grade, mix of tipes of cristals. As in steel, more strength less corrosion resistance.
But for most, titanium is one of the best choices.
But dont forget electrochemical corrosion, contact whit other metals.
@@ljubomirculibrk4097 Actually the highest strength iron alloys are very corrosion resistant - it is carbon content that accelerates corrosion.
Damn some people have smart and interesting prozesses. I would Love to Work in Industries Like this but I feel Not experienced enough. But I am also to old to Just Switch industrys😅
The industry didn’t exist 10yrs ago, nobody has much experience. I actually work at Norsk after years of being a machinist.
@@dubyas1989 Hi, first of all thank you for encouraging me. I should maybe explain my comment a little. I am a 3d artist and have worked in a company where one of my tasks was to prepare archaeological finds for 3d printing. So I'm not completely new but I don't have enough practical experience in industrial printing and I've never been a machine operator. I would like to change but I have some responsibilities and therefore I can't start anywhere as a trainee, which means I lack the knowledge and I am not in the financial situation to build it up in a company.
I am studying a lot myself but I feel like before I realy worked in a workshop on the mashines I dont feel good aplaying.
@@PeirotheFirescare hey I started 8 years with a tiny $150 3d printer and free CAD software. Learned everything on line. NOW I just completed a whole new Midel train tender for my 1950s American Flyer. Trucks, Chassis. Body and stuffed with new internet of things Learned on line too. Digital sound, fan driven Smoke, synchronized Puff & Chuff. Lots of fun stuff. It takes time and patience but NOT a big bag of money to explore. Do it! Dennis
Nice ti cans
Alot of buzzwords flying around.
Dimensionally inaccurate parts and needs to have non-additive traditional manufacturing process. You have to use two methods at the same time.
2:07 BOMBS. Its carrying bombs and missiles, and bombs. To kill people. You know.
It would be far less money to just sand cast a slightly larger part than machine it to size.
Can Titanium be sand cast? I don't think so....
Cast parts are not as strong as these preforms.
Wouldn't laser Metal 3d Printing be more efficient and produce almost production level parts and only need minimal tooling. Such as GE X Line 2000R , Similar machines used by Adam Savage in making the Iron man titanium suit. I can see how this Plasma DED process is better then straight block cnc milling. But next to using a laser 3d metal printer the plasma looks like a hot mess.
Nice commercial for sure. Military products have always been a driver for developments. The costs are almost irrelevant and often the new technologies are then adopted in the civilian sector. That is what I see here. The print here in the video will probably be pushed aside and covered up afterwards. Until it is pushed out again to show how great it is, etc.
22:50 to cover what could have been covered in 5 mins .. waste of time!
Couldn't you just weld titanium to make that rough shape more or less and then mill it
You want to minimize welding in airframe components because you cannot guarantee that the weld is as strong as a solid block and causes inconsistent material properties that can lead to fracture caused by metal fatigue. Welding also may cause warpage of the part. In this case you minimize labor, need no fixturing and it is made in 1 step. You are adding multiple steps if you say welded plates together. You have to cut the plates (very expensive in titanium), fixture them, weld them, test the welds for consistency and penetration dye, then fixture in a machine and mill it (extremely expensive). This is as simple as pressing go on the machine and then voila there is your part.
@@letsbuildit6954the parts Norsk makes do still need finish machining, but yeah other than that, spot on.
You could probably make things for others and sell them so that the machines run 24-7 and make money
Interesting content. One comment is that you’re pretty repetitive in the final edit. You might be able to make the video significantly more succinct by removing all the duplication as this didn’t need to be 23 minutes long.
Just one little problem , Most titanium is sourced from RUSSIA and the sanctions scuppered that source. Other sources are not as easy to get it from.
Doesn't ALOT of titanium come from Russia
I honestly don't understand this drones are supposed to be cheaper to make Aunt buy so why would you make the wings out of a more expensive material like titanium when you we're using a cheaper material aluminum that doesn't really make sense to me
They claim the cost is the same or lower.... I find it hard to believe. Aluminum is dirt cheap and easy to work with.
Sounds like it is more expensive than just using aluminum. I got an offer at an aerospace 3d printing company in Knoxville, TN and they only offered me $12 an hour and I have a degree and experience!!!Absolutely ridiculous and insulting! These companies cheap out on paying employees cause everything else cost so much money.
How to be an idiot without saying you are one: Example 1
Norsk takes great care of us.
They say the opposite. If you make the part from aluminum you start from a block with the overall dimensions and you have to remove 90% machining. So you are paying a lot for the raw material and a lot for the machining (time, tooling...).
For big titanium parts, it is difficult to make the above in a cost effective manner. But if you start with a preform, the case is completely different.
In this same channel, there's an example at NASA of big parts being made in titanium thanks to additive manufacturing.
Why would they change the part and the processes if it is not to save in costs?
Look for a company where they value you more, good luck!
12$ an hour is hilarious… the girl that pours my coffee at dunks down the street from me gets 18$ not including tips 😀
I'm a carpenter making 42 dollars 😂
Titanium from Rusia?!
Not eney more and it seems that new suplier has made a co.kup.
Big aircraft manufacturers haw sounded the alarm that titanium parts are not the grade they shoud be.
Hm, they didnt hear of metal testing before use as it seems...
@@ljubomirculibrk4097 serious issue. BOEING?
0% of our titanium comes from Russia.
Wow, really? Let Russia keep their Titanium, they're going to need all they can get.
They aren’t getting their metal from Russia.
Talk about the part more. Point at it and explain.
All drones are the size of small planes
And it is much stronger and more reliable
The sucky bit was, it’s a killing machine.
Humans are like a mouse, creating the ultimate mouse trap.
If only there was a way to focus all that energy towards making a better world.
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Unsubscribed, 5 talking points repeated for 22 minutes.
I have better thing to do with my time.
With every new technology, a new human being is killed
Better script, less frantic hand waving.
„Other types of payload“😂😂😂😂
A Meltio M600 machine would've been made it better imhso.
Interesting comment. Why do you think this might be the case? How long would it of taken to lay that part down on a Meltio? The wire diameter is nearly three times smaller. Remember this is a production piece. Is it possible for Meltio to lay down such a large piece efficiently?
@@78bookem I'm not sure as to how long it would've taken the Meltio M600 to lay down the same piece, but given they ability for the head to be put on a robot arm, I think it would've been able to accomplish the same task with off the shelf wire in an efficient manner. The Meltio can accomplish production pieces all the same.
As someone who literally works at Norsk making these parts, NO. It’s missing quite a few features that make depositing titanium possible for aerospace applications.
@@dubyas1989 ok like I had previously said, imhso. It's just blind love for the Meltio. Have a scintillating day! 😆
Its now 14 times as expensive
To truly appreciate this process one has to watch documentaries on the hell it was to develop the SR-71 Blackbird (90% Titanium) because of the fractious reactive properties of the metal, where even seasonal changes in the chlorine levels in the local water used in manufacturing caused it to corrode. Now you just put a pile of Titanium dioxide powder in a vacuum chamber, hit a button and you have your part. Some things never change though: back then most of the world's titanium came from communist Russia necessitating a CIA operation where they posed as a fake European buyer to hustle the Reds for the Blackbird's Titanium. Today it comes from communist China, but a "communism" whereby over 100 of the Chinese politburo members are billionaires. In short, they're businessmen.
Just another MIC ad.
America is always one step ahead in production(innovation development etc. Well done to them . keep going ,don’t stop bettering
"save money on these aircrafts?" i always thought aircraft was the plural of aircraft. not "aircrafts"
It is aircrafts if there are more than one aircraft and more than one type of aircraft. So if there were 3 Boeing 747s and 3 777s that would be aircrafts.
If the USA can 3D print titanium parts, why didn’t Boeing buy titanium alloy parts from a US supplier for the Starliner? Instead, Boeing approved replacing the titanium alloy parts with aluminum alloy parts manufactured in India for the Starliner, which caused the Starliner to become stranded in space. This situation may endanger the lives of all the astronauts aboard the ISS.
The source for your claims?
All these "commercial space companies" are garbage. Give American control of Space back to NASA exclusively, fund them like we mean it. Artemis is a disaster too, and SpaceX is run by a con man.
Calling this 3d printed is a stretch. This is just cnc tig welded.
The heavies
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China can make these Ti46 parts with 5 % waste from printing to finish product in 36 hours without human touching.
yes lets play the same stupid clips over and over. lost interest when all I was listening to was slow-talk about blah blah blah. I begin scanning ahead and all I see if the same crap : clip - someone going blahh blah blah - same clips - blah blah blah who cares? youtube is flooded with bloated crap. this just added itself to the list. I'll wait for someone else to provide pertinent information at less of a cost to my time.
lol this guys are not really masters of their craft who ever ready from a screen is because they don’t really understand what are they talking about if casting allow aluminum are very realistic and reliable like Ferrari engines or formula one components the melting titanium could change the property of the alloy besides titanium is very limited like we have to buy our from Russian to build the SR-71 blackbird so it is a good plan but the manufacturing is not very efficient
So viel gelaber
Benefits of titanium: almost as strong as steel. As light weight as aluminum. Extremely abrasive resistant
Cons of titanium: Extremely bad at holding a sharp edge ( so very/Extremely bad for any kind of cutting tools )
This was the least impressive part made by Norsk Titanium! Norsk Titanium is the only additive manufacturing company in the world with FAA approval for making critical components such as blades for turbofan engines etc. This video missed the point an lent the ear mostly to a mediocre drone producer insted of focusing on the real story here! Sorry, but thumbs down!
But you get a thumbs up for that comment!
Boring, didn't show anything.
Good idea but the most of the titanium dont come from russia , oh boy i know who come to 🕌🕌🕌⌛copy the tech....