Mids sound like the music is coming from a small radio in a large room, sometimes you hear this in games where there's a small radio blasting in a large room, like an auto repair. Love the video, perfect examples and explanation.
This is the best video I've ever watched on headphones. Everyone has their subjective opinions on brightness, warmth, etc. But there's so little info on objective measurements and what they mean - yes, they're not as exciting as reviews but they're just as (or more) important in terms of purchasing decisions. Thanks DMS, you're an awesome youtuber!
Thanks! 😄 If you liked that one be sure to checkout this one! I updated my measurements rig in 2020 so information is displayed differently: ua-cam.com/video/v6by0NDAe5g/v-deo.html
MajorKoala I have the DT990 600 ohm. They really aren’t V shaped. More like a slightly withdrawn midrange. But the mids are still VERY detailed. If it is V shaped.....it’s done well and better than 90% of the V shaped cans out there. It’s really only noticeable if you’re comparing to other headphones that have forward midrange like the DT 880.......which can be a. It too forward when listening to guitars that are forward in the mix. People love to shit on the DT 990 and it’s become as commonplace as any internet meme. For the right music they are still a magical set of cans.
Alina Satis Listen to certain Metal tracks on the DT 880 which have very forward and aggressively mixed guitars and you’ll want to switch to the 990 and everything’s a bit more relaxed. The engineers ay Beyer know what they’re doing.
It's the crack of music. Everything people find tingling about music gets exaggerated. But then you're not really listing to the music, you just injecting yourself tingling sounds without really caring what song you hear. And just generally you don't care much for the song.
The first part of the The LCD-2 graph seems like it was measured with pinna and concha, but no ear-canal transformation. (Perhaps measured with a system with blocked ear-canal). Where is this graph from and how was it measured ? Was any transformations applied to it ? It is a bit misleading to use a graph with partial HRTF to a linear FR from a DAW.
It's definitely a more rough measurement but its calibrated for "free-field" neutral just as a reference point. I am however planning on doing a follow-up to talk about the different commonly accepted target curves and how there are several perceived "flat" responses from different sources. I would be very interested in hearing Audeze's take on this also to throw in the mix.
@@DMS3TV Can you send us the raw measurement and the FR adjustment ? Was this measured with a pinna ? It still does not look correct. We will be glad to share what we do.
good guide video. some people say FR graph is just only graph.. actually FR graph is good baseline for finding character of headphones of course it's not all of headphone, but also more detailed measurement data also explain more of headphone.
Clark White no, not really. Words like those are used by musicians and music producers too. They’re just words to quickly describe a sound without needing to get specific about what each area of the frequency spectrum is doing.
@@squidwardstesticles5914 I definitely disagree, but I respect you. Also, they tend to have different definitions, depending on what sector of the audio world a person is oriented towards. Ex: To a person who records vocals with a tube preamplifier, 'warmth' likely refers to wanted harmonic distortion in the low-mid to mid-bass area. To a headphone enthusiast, it may instead mean slightly or very exaggerated mid-bass. An audio engineer may call a hump in mid-bass 'mud'. In the headphone world, these buzzwords seem to be used as marketing terms to blanket and sell imperfections.
@@yepyep3897 when used in marketing I can definitely understand you saying they're buzzwords, but I still think they're useful for discussing how a headphone or guitar tone or whatever sounds. For example, If you need headphone recommendations and you know you're treble sensitive, you can ask for dark or relaxed headphones. Obviously the word alone isn't gonna be enough to describe the overall sound of a headphone, but it's nice to be able to put headphones in different groups based on their general sound signature.
Woooo I can finally go to measurements websites and have an idea of what I'm buying without having to wait for someone who reads graphs for me! Thank you kind sir, subscribed and eager to learn more!
I think this is the only video on the whole UA-cam actually explaining graphs with examples. Hope you make another video where you deliberately put peaks to show what sibilance sounds like and how it's like when kids are shouty.
Awesome video DMS. Super informative. Can you suggest a program that can do that but maybe less expensive....... maybe windows and free? I may have went to far at the end there
You can download a Chrome EQ plugin/plugin, there should be plenty that are free on the chrome store. It doesn't take up large memory as these music production or editing softwares that DMS uses.
This is great. I've been of the mindset that I'd really love a pair of planars, because everyone says how warm and punchy they can be, although I have heard the LCD-Xs are still neutral. But..... I had bad experiences with siblant headphones in the past, but the more I learn about this, maybe I do actually enjoy a brighter sound, as long as it isn't piercing or siblant. I know this is just a crude example, but when the high-end disappeared to make things warmer / darker, I didn't find that more pleasant. Is that what something like the LCD-2C's sound like? I have no way to demo them.
wow! i heard it with hd599 and literaly havent noticed a change in the mid-renge at 5:45, maybe i dont all that audiophile stuff?? or is it just becuse my headphones?
Excellent video - thank you for posting this. Great to see your videos - concise and thorough ( and engaging ) content. Keep up the great work. For what it's worth I am going to recommend your channel to my friends on various platforms...
Did you watch my video on Frequency curve analysis? What a coincidence that you release this a week later lol. Anyways great job at explaining, people really need to learn about frequency response, such an important indicator of how good a headphone/earphones sound.
I am comparing data from rtratings about thes graphs and all i have to say is that yeah a graph can tell u about the sound signature but cant about sound quality and overall feeling. For example many Senns HD have the same graph but they sound so different.
I'm 41 and have been listening to music all my life with cheap neckband wired headphones but am quite new to the audiophile world and in the last 2 years have gotten mid-range but expensive headphones for me like the Sennheiser HD 660's and Focal Clear, Elegia, Celestee and some others and was wondering if human beings can only hear up to 20,000hz why do some headphones go above that hearing range when humans can't hear above that range, also can I E.Q. the Sennheiser HD 660's in Poweramp app to sound more like the Sennheiser HD 600's because I feel they're a bit to warm sounding for me and heard the HD 600 are more neutral sounding.
Truly amazing video! Audio is becoming a passion but without the cash or wife acceptance factor to buy 50 pairs of headphones picking a set is really a gamble without understanding of information like this. Any tips on free eq software to see graphs of what your hearing like you did here? Just being able to completely cut out and isolate ranges would do so much to help translate frequency ranges with visual graphs.
I think this just shows what I like depending on musical genre. I like my mids and highs for my metal/rock listening with short bass roll off. Pretty much opposite for hip hop electronic. 🤷🏾♂️
Thanks so much for this video! Overall your videos have been so lucid and helpful - too many audiophile reviewers lean on a kind of niche vocabulary that is simultaneously really inaccessible and also weirdly subjective (or at least they're used highly subjectively). Also usually like >20" at least. So thanks!
Great video on something I really never looked into or learned about. This would have helped me in the beginning of getting into more higher end headphones, but better late than never.
Hey, does anybody know a (free) software, with which you can display your output signal, like DMS in the video? I only find programs to display my audio inut via mcrophone, but none for output only...
I am really new to this scene, and I don't think I can afford to buy any of the more expensive headphones/amps/dacs that can essentially make the music sound as if I was present of the performance. This will sound a very dumb question, but I just recently bought an HD 599. Anyway, I have read some post on reddit (though many have disputed their claim) That you can essentially make a headphones sound like a more premium headphones by adjusting the equalizer. Is this true? Or there is more to it than the reddit post. I just don't like the HD 599, too much bass for my taste. I just edited it to lower the bass for 1 db (anything below 200Hz), which is not (I believe to be that intrusive). Are there any amp/dac that you can recommend as well that wouldn't add more bass in my experience. I am more of a I guess, mid highs kind of guy. (still new to the terminology)
Thanks a lot bud! Could me help me in choosing the IEM? KZ ZSN vs KZ ZSN Pro vs Tin HiFi T3? This will my first IEM for casual listening. I want the bass as it was originally created(not extra) and also the clarity in treble(same as it was originally created)
Hey DMS, what mic would you recommend for someone looking to start on youtube? I've looked at some reviews but it seems like everyone reccomends blue microphones which I want to avoid. Sorry for the off-topic question, but I trust your judgment. (great video btw)
Thanks for putting this together. Sorry for the noob question, but what does roll off mean? What does a freq graph actually tell you about the headphones?
As one who is fairly new I can try. When there is a rolloff in bass, the quieter the bass is the lower you get. If there is a treble rolloff, the treble gets quieter as it gets higher. Frequency charts can describe the headphones sound. If there is bass rolloff, don't get them if you're a basshead. If you prefer mid-range, compare that to the bass and treble, make sure it isn't the lowest point.
usually because of two things. 1: completely flat headphones unfortunately don't exist but they get "close", and 2: other characteristics that can't be EQ'd in like soundstage, imaging, comfort, etc.
finally, explaining FRG using SOUND. There is no fucking way a noobie like me will understand low, mids, etc with a bunch of technical term. great bideo
I believe it trends downwards with headphones because it's hard AF to make "miniature speakers" sound neutral (horizontal frequency response) at 10 to 20khz. Even 100$ bookshelf speakers can be impressively flat (neutral) all the way to 20 000khz and beyond compared to most if not all 500$+ headphones.
Maybe because neutral speakers in a good room give you a downward sloped response that goes down by about 10 dB from 20 Hz to 20 kHz, and some people also like their headphones to sound like that.
A -10db slope to 20khz wouldn't sound great at all... My 100$ speakers are basically the exact opposite of this and I love them: I can finally hear all the treble -- it's as if I was there. Not the case with headphones unless you spend way more. There are many reasons anyway, I'd say... #1: Yes, it's hard AF to make headphones sound neutral for cheap. #2: Most people will listen to headphones at high volume. High volume, high frequencies will make you go deaf. #3: Sadly, some popular CDs from 2000s until today tend to compensate for ALL this by boosting the treble. So if you listen to them with decent headphones (i.e.: decent, flat, neutral treble), you might find that your "perfect" headphones have too much treble... But no, the music industry just sucks. Finally, audiophiles want great sound, not only boom boom boom. They won't sue Stax or other companies selling 1000$+ headphones because they've gone deaf.
"A -10db slope to 20khz wouldn't sound great at all..." It's correct sounding speakers (flat in an anechoic chamber) when put in a partially treated (non-anechoic) listening room: the room gain will favor the bass. A lot of people these days are used to this typical indoor sound more than the sound of a live band in a completely open outdoor setting (without electronic compensation), so this is what sounds great to them. This is according to Harman Audio's research but also some older papers that found similar preferences where indoor speakers were involved.
Mids sound like the music is coming from a small radio in a large room, sometimes you hear this in games where there's a small radio blasting in a large room, like an auto repair. Love the video, perfect examples and explanation.
This is a fantastic video to describe frequency response. This will be my go to video when people have questions.
This is the best video I've ever watched on headphones. Everyone has their subjective opinions on brightness, warmth, etc. But there's so little info on objective measurements and what they mean - yes, they're not as exciting as reviews but they're just as (or more) important in terms of purchasing decisions. Thanks DMS, you're an awesome youtuber!
Going out of your way to show us visualizations was a huge help in understanding this. Thanks a ton
Found you on Linus's channel and after this video, I'm a fan sir.
Thanks! 😄
If you liked that one be sure to checkout this one! I updated my measurements rig in 2020 so information is displayed differently: ua-cam.com/video/v6by0NDAe5g/v-deo.html
So when people say V shaped graphs are "fun". That now makes less sense to me since the mids seem to carry the song's soul.
V shape is overrated , L shape is where it's at for me because I like kids too
@Alina Satis Funny you say that because my dailies are DT 990. I don't think they have a V shape at all. They seem pretty flat then peak at highs.
MajorKoala I have the DT990 600 ohm. They really aren’t V shaped. More like a slightly withdrawn midrange. But the mids are still VERY detailed. If it is V shaped.....it’s done well and better than 90% of the V shaped cans out there. It’s really only noticeable if you’re comparing to other headphones that have forward midrange like the DT 880.......which can be a. It too forward when listening to guitars that are forward in the mix. People love to shit on the DT 990 and it’s become as commonplace as any internet meme. For the right music they are still a magical set of cans.
Alina Satis Listen to certain Metal tracks on the DT 880 which have very forward and aggressively mixed guitars and you’ll want to switch to the 990 and everything’s a bit more relaxed. The engineers ay Beyer know what they’re doing.
It's the crack of music. Everything people find tingling about music gets exaggerated. But then you're not really listing to the music, you just injecting yourself tingling sounds without really caring what song you hear. And just generally you don't care much for the song.
Welcome back brother!
Great topic!
The first part of the The LCD-2 graph seems like it was measured with pinna and concha, but no ear-canal transformation. (Perhaps measured with a system with blocked ear-canal). Where is this graph from and how was it measured ? Was any transformations applied to it ? It is a bit misleading to use a graph with partial HRTF to a linear FR from a DAW.
It's definitely a more rough measurement but its calibrated for "free-field" neutral just as a reference point. I am however planning on doing a follow-up to talk about the different commonly accepted target curves and how there are several perceived "flat" responses from different sources. I would be very interested in hearing Audeze's take on this also to throw in the mix.
@@DMS3TV Can you send us the raw measurement and the FR adjustment ? Was this measured with a pinna ? It still does not look correct. We will be glad to share what we do.
Oh snap! Audeze fact checking!
Only video where I fully understand/understood what was going on. Idk what teacher witchcraft you have going on, but it works
Glad to see you still making videos. This was a good one.
good guide video.
some people say FR graph is just only graph..
actually FR graph is good baseline for finding character of headphones
of course it's not all of headphone, but also more detailed measurement data also explain more of headphone.
I have been waiting for video like this for a long time
Nice work
That was unbelievably helpful.
Finally someone who actually "explained" things, numbers and how to read them. MORE .PLEASE (ya I'm Canadian).
Just.... wow! this video deserved my sub! the demonstration adds so much more than just saying it!
Great video. For those of us still learning the basics, this type of video is very helpful.
One of you all time bests DMS! Amazing!
Brilliant. Would love a further expansion to terms like warm and dark and bright etc.
They're just 'audiophile' buzzwords/cliches.
Clark White no, not really. Words like those are used by musicians and music producers too. They’re just words to quickly describe a sound without needing to get specific about what each area of the frequency spectrum is doing.
@@squidwardstesticles5914 I definitely disagree, but I respect you. Also, they tend to have different definitions, depending on what sector of the audio world a person is oriented towards.
Ex: To a person who records vocals with a tube preamplifier, 'warmth' likely refers to wanted harmonic distortion in the low-mid to mid-bass area. To a headphone enthusiast, it may instead mean slightly or very exaggerated mid-bass.
An audio engineer may call a hump in mid-bass 'mud'.
In the headphone world, these buzzwords seem to be used as marketing terms to blanket and sell imperfections.
@@yepyep3897 when used in marketing I can definitely understand you saying they're buzzwords, but I still think they're useful for discussing how a headphone or guitar tone or whatever sounds. For example, If you need headphone recommendations and you know you're treble sensitive, you can ask for dark or relaxed headphones. Obviously the word alone isn't gonna be enough to describe the overall sound of a headphone, but it's nice to be able to put headphones in different groups based on their general sound signature.
Warm and Dark = more lows
Bright = more highs
Woooo I can finally go to measurements websites and have an idea of what I'm buying without having to wait for someone who reads graphs for me! Thank you kind sir, subscribed and eager to learn more!
Really nice video and finally someone explaining this with a real audio/visual example.Well done DMS.
I think this is the only video on the whole UA-cam actually explaining graphs with examples. Hope you make another video where you deliberately put peaks to show what sibilance sounds like and how it's like when kids are shouty.
Awesome video DMS. Super informative. Can you suggest a program that can do that but maybe less expensive....... maybe windows and free? I may have went to far at the end there
Audacity would likely work and it's free
You can download a Chrome EQ plugin/plugin, there should be plenty that are free on the chrome store. It doesn't take up large memory as these music production or editing softwares that DMS uses.
Equalizer APO with Peace GUI
Thanks for another fantastic video bro!
This is incredibly underrated. Super helpful to get my friend into audiophile hobby.
Glad your back
Also are those 880s or 990s
600ohm DT880
DMS thank you, I was guessing because it was what your were featuring in the video, out of curiosity is do you like it compared to the hd600
Amazing video DMS! Keep doin stuff like this!
Awesome video, this will help a lot of folks. Thanks DMS.
Great video. This is one of your best videos you've made.
Excellent teaching, DMS!
Welcome back bro!! Great video!!
Great video! Very informative, thank you! Glad to see you back
nice video! loved the graphic equalizer showcase!
This is great. I've been of the mindset that I'd really love a pair of planars, because everyone says how warm and punchy they can be, although I have heard the LCD-Xs are still neutral. But..... I had bad experiences with siblant headphones in the past, but the more I learn about this, maybe I do actually enjoy a brighter sound, as long as it isn't piercing or siblant. I know this is just a crude example, but when the high-end disappeared to make things warmer / darker, I didn't find that more pleasant. Is that what something like the LCD-2C's sound like? I have no way to demo them.
Excellent demonstration to explain frequency response. Well done, would like to see more of this contend in future !!!
Top notch... should def do more of these. Will help support your reviews big time. 👍🏻
This is the best frequency response video! Thank you! Subscribed
Very well explained, both verbally and visually.
thanks for all your help . i kept wondering about ear graghs
WOW!!! the most educational video by an audio youtuber not-owner-of-a-stereo-brand; thank you! hope you do more like that.
This is a very clear and concise explanation, that makes great use of visualisation and examples. Thank you!
5:11 Very pleasant while using bright IEMs. Guess I'm a treblehead after all.
Would like to see u do something about what EQ does to a headphones frequency response.
wow! i heard it with hd599 and literaly havent noticed a change in the mid-renge at 5:45, maybe i dont all that audiophile stuff?? or is it just becuse my headphones?
Excellent video - thank you for posting this. Great to see your videos - concise and thorough ( and engaging ) content. Keep up the great work. For what it's worth I am going to recommend your channel to my friends on various platforms...
Can you do this for evry headphone you review? pluscan you do this for bose vs sony vs senheiser etc
Really good demo. Good to see you again.
Good to have you back.....
Great video. Very informative. Keep up the good work 🖒
Brilliant video. Perfectly described and demonstrated. Thank you.
I have got the Audeze LCD 2. For heavier music they sound a little bit "muddy" 🤔
Lovely tour of the frequency.
YAY HE'S BACK!
Where in the mids do male female/vocals usually come in? I find it hard to properly target them in EQ.
Did you watch my video on Frequency curve analysis? What a coincidence that you release this a week later lol.
Anyways great job at explaining, people really need to learn about frequency response, such an important indicator of how good a headphone/earphones sound.
I am comparing data from rtratings about thes graphs and all i have to say is that yeah a graph can tell u about the sound signature but cant about sound quality and overall feeling. For example many Senns HD have the same graph but they sound so different.
If i had a pair of headphones with me, how would I be able to see the response curve of it?
Would also be interesting to layer in and discuss an ear sensitivity graph.
Yup. I'm ultra sensitive to treble, would love if someone did that.
I'm 41 and have been listening to music all my life with cheap neckband wired headphones but am quite new to the audiophile world and in the last 2 years have gotten mid-range but expensive headphones for me like the Sennheiser HD 660's and Focal Clear, Elegia, Celestee and some others and was wondering if human beings can only hear up to 20,000hz why do some headphones go above that hearing range when humans can't hear above that range, also can I E.Q. the Sennheiser HD 660's in Poweramp app to sound more like the Sennheiser HD 600's because I feel they're a bit to warm sounding for me and heard the HD 600 are more neutral sounding.
Well they just physically can produce sounds higher than 20'000hz. it's not really a feature or a purposeful design decision in most cases
@@g13n4 Oh really, but why do some audio gear produce sounds more than what humans can hear, that puzzles me.
Thanks for the video m8, now I understand how lows mids and highs sound
Truly amazing video! Audio is becoming a passion but without the cash or wife acceptance factor to buy 50 pairs of headphones picking a set is really a gamble without understanding of information like this.
Any tips on free eq software to see graphs of what your hearing like you did here? Just being able to completely cut out and isolate ranges would do so much to help translate frequency ranges with visual graphs.
I think this just shows what I like depending on musical genre.
I like my mids and highs for my metal/rock listening with short bass roll off. Pretty much opposite for hip hop electronic. 🤷🏾♂️
Thanks so much for this video! Overall your videos have been so lucid and helpful - too many audiophile reviewers lean on a kind of niche vocabulary that is simultaneously really inaccessible and also weirdly subjective (or at least they're used highly subjectively). Also usually like >20" at least. So thanks!
Briliant presentation.
Great video on something I really never looked into or learned about. This would have helped me in the beginning of getting into more higher end headphones, but better late than never.
Hey, does anybody know a (free) software, with which you can display your output signal, like DMS in the video? I only find programs to display my audio inut via mcrophone, but none for output only...
Very informative video! Where could we find the response graph per each headphone? Are they published somewhere?
I feel you should have mentioned normalized vs raw curve. Probably should be a video all on its own. Informative video either way, great work
I am really new to this scene, and I don't think I can afford to buy any of the more expensive headphones/amps/dacs that can essentially make the music sound as if I was present of the performance.
This will sound a very dumb question, but I just recently bought an HD 599. Anyway, I have read some post on reddit (though many have disputed their claim) That you can essentially make a headphones sound like a more premium headphones by adjusting the equalizer. Is this true? Or there is more to it than the reddit post.
I just don't like the HD 599, too much bass for my taste. I just edited it to lower the bass for 1 db (anything below 200Hz), which is not (I believe to be that intrusive). Are there any amp/dac that you can recommend as well that wouldn't add more bass in my experience. I am more of a I guess, mid highs kind of guy. (still new to the terminology)
darklyger64 look up the measurements for the hd 599, eq to reduce bass, while trying to stay as close as the frequency response curve
Thanks a lot bud!
Could me help me in choosing the IEM? KZ ZSN vs KZ ZSN Pro vs Tin HiFi T3?
This will my first IEM for casual listening.
I want the bass as it was originally created(not extra) and also the clarity in treble(same as it was originally created)
Awesome video! Very informative and educational.
This was very helpful. Thanks 🙏
Hey DMS, what mic would you recommend for someone looking to start on youtube?
I've looked at some reviews but it seems like everyone reccomends blue microphones which I want to avoid.
Sorry for the off-topic question, but I trust your judgment.
(great video btw)
if you want a cardioid condenser I would say definitely the AT2020 USB or an AT2020 XLR with the behringer UM2.
@@DMS3TV Thanks, I'll look into it
So, does that mean, the flatter the graph (the less amount of dips and peaks) the better the headphone?
Not always, here’s more info ua-cam.com/video/v3vGSA13wFk/v-deo.html
@@DMS3TVwhat’s the song you are playing in this video?
Thanks for putting this together. Sorry for the noob question, but what does roll off mean? What does a freq graph actually tell you about the headphones?
As one who is fairly new I can try. When there is a rolloff in bass, the quieter the bass is the lower you get. If there is a treble rolloff, the treble gets quieter as it gets higher. Frequency charts can describe the headphones sound. If there is bass rolloff, don't get them if you're a basshead. If you prefer mid-range, compare that to the bass and treble, make sure it isn't the lowest point.
The next progression to the Audeze tuning would a tuning that starts boosted in the lows and dips below 0 dB gradually.
Thanks for a simple and easy guide.
Brilliant! Thank you!
Great explanation, thank you!!
Needed this
Great explanation 🤟
question: why wouldn't you just buy very flat headphones and then EQ them to your liking?
usually because of two things. 1: completely flat headphones unfortunately don't exist but they get "close", and 2: other characteristics that can't be EQ'd in like soundstage, imaging, comfort, etc.
Yes , very informative , thank you .
thanks dude, fantastic video
from where i can get this software?
Excellent video.. Great job explaining
Super helpful. Thank you!
SUPER helpful!
DMS can hear 10 hz, must be part whale.
Awesome! That's super helpful.
damn it, this is very helpful!
Well done !
Great video man
Great video, thanks a lot!
Great video! Very informative!
This is a great video for noobs like me, thanks a lot man.
finally, explaining FRG using SOUND. There is no fucking way a noobie like me will understand low, mids, etc with a bunch of technical term. great bideo
Why aren't neutral frequency response graphs completely horizontal then? Why does it trend downwards?
I'll actually be doing a video on that soon : )
I believe it trends downwards with headphones because it's hard AF to make "miniature speakers" sound neutral (horizontal frequency response) at 10 to 20khz. Even 100$ bookshelf speakers can be impressively flat (neutral) all the way to 20 000khz and beyond compared to most if not all 500$+ headphones.
Maybe because neutral speakers in a good room give you a downward sloped response that goes down by about 10 dB from 20 Hz to 20 kHz, and some people also like their headphones to sound like that.
A -10db slope to 20khz wouldn't sound great at all...
My 100$ speakers are basically the exact opposite of this and I love them: I can finally hear all the treble -- it's as if I was there. Not the case with headphones unless you spend way more.
There are many reasons anyway, I'd say...
#1: Yes, it's hard AF to make headphones sound neutral for cheap.
#2: Most people will listen to headphones at high volume. High volume, high frequencies will make you go deaf.
#3: Sadly, some popular CDs from 2000s until today tend to compensate for ALL this by boosting the treble. So if you listen to them with decent headphones (i.e.: decent, flat, neutral treble), you might find that your "perfect" headphones have too much treble... But no, the music industry just sucks.
Finally, audiophiles want great sound, not only boom boom boom. They won't sue Stax or other companies selling 1000$+ headphones because they've gone deaf.
"A -10db slope to 20khz wouldn't sound great at all..."
It's correct sounding speakers (flat in an anechoic chamber) when put in a partially treated (non-anechoic) listening room: the room gain will favor the bass. A lot of people these days are used to this typical indoor sound more than the sound of a live band in a completely open outdoor setting (without electronic compensation), so this is what sounds great to them. This is according to Harman Audio's research but also some older papers that found similar preferences where indoor speakers were involved.
Thanks for the info.
what program are you using for the grafic eq?
wow this video is amazing senpai we need prt 2 or and upgrade version