The Quad4 was an amazing engine despite all of it's problems - which were many. The W41 version in the Olds' cars made 190HP and redlined at 7400rpm... it was like an American, late 80's version of the Integra Type-R.
25 years ago, my uncle had purchased a 1990 Tonka Yellow Chevrolet Beretta Indy since it was fresh off a Chevrolet dealer lot and he still have the Beretta Indy. I loved that car because of its Corvette-esque engine & the digital instrument panel setup. I noticed some fit-and-finish issues along with some cosmetic problems such as loose exterior window trim moldings, a severely cracked dashboard that's about to come off, a chipped air dam, slightly discolored "Beretta Indy" decals due to lackluster paint finish, and a spoiler that's cracked by an ice storm in 2014. I can't stop saying "thank you" to my uncle for keeping his Beretta Indy alive & well.
I have owned 4 of these 90 gtz's and I have been in love with them since they first come out. I had replaced numerous quad 4 engines but it was all worth it to see the dumb founded look on the rice burner owners face after i passed him like he was sitting still. If you have actually driven one, your opinion would change!!
Owned 4 of them? You love them like I do. The 1990 was my favorite as well. I only owned 1 but to this day it's my favorite car, wish I had it back. Aside from the head gasket, my Quad 4 ran & held up beautifully.
Brings back good memories ... my first new car was a red '89 Beretta GT. My new Mazdaspeed3 reminds me a lot of my old GT, but with about an extra 130 HP. Still gets 30+ on the highway too! My next new car will probably be a Chevy Volt.
I had a 91 Beretta GT...loved that car. I'd love to have that car back, traded it in for $400 with 250,000 miles on it and running strong. The wheels alone were worth more than $400. I was a weekly watcher of Motor Week too, featuring Goss' Garage.
Had one of these when new, I tried to love it, looked awesome and had the power to pass no problem. Put it in 3rd on the road and hammer it and it took off. Sadly the POS broke down so much I had to bail on it. RIP Beretta GTZ, you really fucked me in the end.
chevy needs to bring back the beretta name. make it a rear wheel drive platform to compete with those toyobarus. keep the 4 banger. one can be all natural and turbo the shit out of the other. imagine it a Beretta SS
Doughbodyboy Not going to happen, since GM would have issues, (have to pay) the gun maker of the Beretta gun to use the name. Besides, GM screwed the Beretta name up so bad, many would not even consider one, sort of what Ford did to the Escort.
it may not be your favorite, but the Quad 4 offered much more power in a smaller package. less weight, more horsepower, and even more torque. The car had it all. and as it turns out, the GTZ was the ultimate Beretta after all. The Grand Am also recieved this engine, and the Oldsmobile Achieva SCX recieved a much more potent 195hp W41 Quad 4. these cars were the fastest of their time. just a shame that GM phased them out with olds to bring that boring ecotec motor here.
GM quit making the Quad 4 to make room for the 2.4l Twin cam, because people were complaining that it was noisy. That and OBD2 made its entrance in 1996 into most GM and Ford cars and trucks. The twin cam came with balanced shafts, a different PS pump setup, and a new intake system to damper the noise. That is the reason they stopped making them. Its called NVH, and it happened to your honda as well.
man, i thought i knew a thing or two about Chevys but i have never heard of the Beretta before until now, i just found this randomly and i gotta say the car looks sharp and its credentials sound promising, me having wanted to own an American car like forever but being in germany a usual big engine American car is almost impossible to afford (running costs) but these rather "small engines" (by American standards) would certainly be worth looking into. i certainly will do my research on them.
After that, the 2.4l Twin Cam was discontinued in late 2001 because GM announced the end of Oldsmobile as a company in 2000.(which ended up bankrupting them 9 years later.) And they made room for the ecotech, which i believe was designed by some saab and GM engineers. And they used the basic design of the Quad 4 with some tweaks to make it more fuel efficient and to meet government regulations.
I had a Grand Am with this engine. I was impressed that 180 hp could be generated out of a 2.3 from the 80's but not impressed with the cracked cylinder head at 90,000 miles! Not to mention all the other problems I had before that! Most unreliable engine I could think of next to the Cadillac HT4100! This is why I drive Toyota now and have been happy ever since without a visit to a mechanic since!
I seem to have gotten one of the few Quad 4's that wasn't junk. I had the head gasket replaced under a quiet "recall" they had & never had another problem. It performed great all the way until the guy I sold it to used it as a get away car in a robbery & flipped it several times. Sadly I saw it, mangled, on the evening news. They said "high speed chase" so it sounds like my Quad 4 ran strong until the end-
I took my Beretta GTZ to the drag strip with a friend, he had a 5.0 mustang He beat me both times we raced but only by about 1 1/2 car lengths. My GTZ was either a 1991 or 1992, i forget which year and his 5.0 was about the same year, an early 90's 5.0. Another friend of mine had a 6 cylinder Camaro, he thought it was quicker than my GTZ, he was wrong, about 3 car lengths wrong. I was able to get my GTZ into the high 15 seconds in a 1/4 mile, 15.8 or 15.9 1/4 mile at our local drag strip. When I bought it, I had no idea it would be as quick as what it was, it would even chirp the front tires when I shifted into second gear, it was a 5 speed manual.. It had a dual over head cam 16 valve 4 cylinder with, from what I was told when I bought it, an aftermarket computer chip, not sure if that was true or not but man it was a beauty. It had a custom black paint job with a couple silver strips that went over that car and very nice Enkei rims with very low profile tires. It was a blast to drive. It was the first car I bought with my own money. Before my GTZ, I had a Sunbird that my parents bought me when I got my drivers license when I was 16. Edit: Didn't know it was a Muncie 5 speed. Muncie is where I was born and raised and where I drove my GTZ around, I still live in Muncie. Pretty cool hearing that fact.
i remember all my friends trying to glue the dash back down cause they always peeled up below the windshield that aside Beretta's were damn good looking cars
If I was going to buy a conventional compact coupe, a V6 Beretta in good condition would be high on the list. Test drove an 88 w/ 2.8L many years ago and loved it, but the deal didn't work out. I'm generally not fond of FWD, and don't really like the quad4, but the Chevy 60degree V6 is one of my favorite small-car engines ever. A 2.8 or 3.1 Beretta is a sweet car.
thats a car that served as basic transportation, got the job done. then when they all or most of them went to the scrappers they were easily forgotten about.
@Airox2009 Correction... how many can do it with WITHOUT direct injection and variable valve timing and be stock? Not many! The Quad4 was far ahead of its' time.
To marvel at how much GM has improved since accounting was booted from vehicle development control. In the switch back to an engineering led product development team, GM has begun making world-class product again after an almost 40 year absence from quality engineering. This isn't a bad car, the competition was just much better.
I can't argue your personal experience, and I think we should all drive whatever makes us happy. Your vehicle is a personal expression of your tastes and desires. But, the rest (more than 50%) of America seems to agree with me, judging by their purchasing habits for the last ten years...
I'd have to agree with 91Taurus. I NEVER see '80s imports on the roads, where as American cars of that era are a dime a dozen. However, on the newer cars, it's more evenly distributed. By the way, 180hp out of a 2.2L I4 is pretty impressive even by today's standards, let alone by those of '90, so GM did do SOME impressive engineering. My first car was an '86 Pontiac 6000 STE. Bought it with 164k miles on the clock, & got rid of it with 225k (original motor & trans). Still lit up the wheels.
yah I have had a beretta for 6 years now and just turned over 215,000 on it. It has been a really good car, mine has the SFI V6 though unlike the one in this vid. i got it with 140,000 and havent had any problems accept for general maintenance, and with the V6 and light body it's snappy and quick, and can run or outrun even new cars. overall very good car.
I'm fairly confident that 0-60 in 7.5 seconds is very acceptable for a naturally aspirated 4 banger. Even by today's standards. This Beretta would probably run circles around the 2004 Dodge Stratus coupe I once owned.
Corsica and Beretta got drivers airbag for the 1991 model year and ABS in the 1992 model year. The car in this clip was probably built in 1989 as my 1990 build Corsica has an airbag.
My friend had a 90 gtz and tried to pass me from behind. Turning right from a stop sign to a country road I pulled out and he a little behind me. I got to about 35 and see him changing lanes to pass me in my 68 Impala 327 th400. He had wound out first grabbed 2nd by then. I grabbed 1st, barked 2nd and he didn’t make it next to me and had to get back in his lane lol. Both of us had girls in the car..
It had all the looks, but too bad it never drove the way it looked. Still, one of the better American cars you could but in the late 80s and early 90s. They all started to lose their edge by then...
yeah i know what you mean.and yes,there were cool cars in the 80s-90s,like your beretta gtz or a lumina z34,grand prix turbo,etc..but the syclones/typhoons and grand nationals...simply were at a higher level!!
I'm not sure where you live but in Toronto I see tons and tons of 80s and 90s domestics. The 80s japanese cars all rusted out years ago, but I still see at least 5 Chevy Celebrities driving around everyday and they stopped making those in 1989. But do i ever see a '89 toyota, very rarely and it usually has huge rust holes, bumper is held on with ducktape and the engine is knocking. I own two '91 Taurus in immaculate condition, our GTZ also perfect, but our neighbor's '95 civic is all rusted
Its so funny you mention probe gt's. My brother was obesessed with those cars and still is. He had a probe gt at the same time I had my gtz's. We never actually raced although we talked about it alot. It would have been pretty close I would imagine. Im not going to put down probes, because in fairness I think they are nice cars, but I still would take a gtz anyday over one of them.
ive had a 1990 beretta GTZ and a 1984 lazer, and the lazer will smoke the GTZ. But when my beretta drivin by a drunk friend hit a pole and cased the rear bumper, it fixed it self, the dent was popped out without a scratch before we got home :) but compared to the 2 i had, the beratta out handles the lazer by far.
I had one once, that exact same color. Couldn't be any less reliable. Did a lot of work to it, and it handled great. Great gas milage, but so unreliable.
@Airox2009 Acura Integra Type-R (6.1), Acura Integra GS-R (7.8), Mazda 3s (7.6), Acura RSX Type-S (6.7), Subaru Impreza RS (7.8), Honda S2000 (6.4), Mazda Miata (7.5), Honda Civic Si (99-00: 7.2, 02-05: 7.6, 06-10: 6.3)... The GTZ is a great car, but there are a TON of NA 4 cylinders that will do 0-60 as fast or faster.
i thought this gtz would have a 3.4 v6, never knew there was a high output 4 under the hood. im not hating on beretta's but a gsx eclipse would run circles around this heavy car.
I like em more than Cruze, but I felt they're just too mainstream?, its like they needed a side model?? I'm not an expert but in the 90s was the Cavy and the Beretta so different?, i mean i always liked the Beretta more.
I had one of these as a company car. What a shit box! I drove the shit out of it. It lasted two years of heavy, heavy use. Brakes were replaced twice during that time. Anyway, life goes on....
of course id also love to have any of them two,or the GN(because of the looks!)but the beretta clearly handles better because of weight,height..,althought the sy/ty´s brake better
anyway,those sy/ty`s got very good brake system!btw,ive just found out that there´s a typhoon here in spain(we dont have any american car!).i really would like to travel to the US for buying a GN..here those cars cause a lot of impression,almost everybody likes them!i dont need a gnx,a "normal" gn is enough hehehe.what was their price some years ago?
this engine was later replaced by the 3.1 v6 in allot of applications a few years later. 3.1 v6's are highly reliable even today many of them still run great after doing some minor repairs... can the same be said 22 years later for the toyota that you are driving now??? i doubt it.
@RuggerMango The Beretta was hella fast, faster than a Honda Civic Si of the same year. I guess the Si would be behind to the RV's rear bumper the whole time. :)
MOST of Detroit is engineering comparable vehicles now, but the statement I made was fact. You haven't noticed the lack of 80s and even 90s domestic metal on the roads? But many Honda's, Toyota's, Mercedes-Benz, and VW products of that era are still being driven daily... Thats because the informed owners of cars like this Chevy got pissed at the garbage build-quality and there next vehicle purchase was an import! Thats why the "Big Three" are in the red now.
I have to say as much as he came across as an ass, the GS-R does beat this car in straight line acceleration and most likely in slalom as well. The GS-R test that motorweek did was able to get a 14.9 1/4 mile time. Regardless, I LOVE The GTZ and the GS-R both. I'm not as much concerned about these things anymore, but finding special models like the GTZ and seeing how bad-ass they were for the day (And still quick by today's standards) is nothing short of spectacular!
Hrmm, must have had shitty gearing but I figured that with 190hp and less weight than my B16 specV, it'd do much better than 15.9. Cool car though, but I always remembered hearing about these quad 4s having some pretty bad issues.
...What about how the engine sounds? How the car drives? NVH!? Peak chassis resonances? Torsional rigidity? Impact safety? Build quality? Interior cut lines? Exterior cut lines? Materials quality? Suspension design? The list of places where GM decided to cut investment costs for more profit and watch as the competition created superior product is outlandish. I should know, I'm an engineer. The decline of the American automobile was my final Thesis.
im driving one now and its crap, maybe would be alright if the guy who gave it to me took better care of it it would of been alright, but its not.. just going to keep driving it till it dies or i get a new job
i swear these things are CURSED!! I bought one used 11 yrs ago and broke down over and over when i was out of town.. my friend bought one and did the same thing, another friend bought one and was killed on impact both est. at 45 mph..
Holy crap! 180hp from an N/A 4 banger in 1990?? Not bad! Not bad at all.
Thanks for the throwback! I've watched this show since the 80's. Still comes on.
The Quad4 was an amazing engine despite all of it's problems - which were many. The W41 version in the Olds' cars made 190HP and redlined at 7400rpm... it was like an American, late 80's version of the Integra Type-R.
Is that what you heard ? 👂
Lol 🤣
25 years ago, my uncle had purchased a 1990 Tonka Yellow Chevrolet Beretta Indy since it was fresh off a Chevrolet dealer lot and he still have the Beretta Indy. I loved that car because of its Corvette-esque engine & the digital instrument panel setup. I noticed some fit-and-finish issues along with some cosmetic problems such as loose exterior window trim moldings, a severely cracked dashboard that's about to come off, a chipped air dam, slightly discolored "Beretta Indy" decals due to lackluster paint finish, and a spoiler that's cracked by an ice storm in 2014. I can't stop saying "thank you" to my uncle for keeping his Beretta Indy alive & well.
Paint issues are standard for cars in that era, if it really bothers you Get it redone from the ground up Professionally is my advice.
All of that body cladding for a 7.5s 0-60 time...got to love the late 1980s and early 1990s!
I have owned 4 of these 90 gtz's and I have been in love with them since they first come out. I had replaced numerous quad 4 engines but it was all worth it to see the dumb founded look on the rice burner owners face after i passed him like he was sitting still. If you have actually driven one, your opinion would change!!
Owned 4 of them? You love them like I do. The 1990 was my favorite as well. I only owned 1 but to this day it's my favorite car, wish I had it back. Aside from the head gasket, my Quad 4 ran & held up beautifully.
Brings back good memories ... my first new car was a red '89 Beretta GT. My new Mazdaspeed3 reminds me a lot of my old GT, but with about an extra 130 HP. Still gets 30+ on the highway too! My next new car will probably be a Chevy Volt.
Man, I had an '89 model. At 265,055 miles the right door fell off when the hinge rusted through! Bless you for this nostalgia!
I had a 91 Beretta GT...loved that car. I'd love to have that car back, traded it in for $400 with 250,000 miles on it and running strong. The wheels alone were worth more than $400. I was a weekly watcher of Motor Week too, featuring Goss' Garage.
I love this Chevy Beretta is great and nice car
180HP 4 cyl still holds up nicely now.
Had one of these when new, I tried to love it, looked awesome and had the power to pass no problem. Put it in 3rd on the road and hammer it and it took off. Sadly the POS broke down so much I had to bail on it. RIP Beretta GTZ, you really fucked me in the end.
laughed pretty good at this. I always felt the power was respectable.
dwoodog Did you get another GM?
LMAO
chevy needs to bring back the beretta name. make it a rear wheel drive platform to compete with those toyobarus. keep the 4 banger. one can be all natural and turbo the shit out of the other. imagine it a Beretta SS
The idea is nice, and I'd like to see that. But it'll be a flop just like how the Chevy SS is today.
Doughbodyboy Not going to happen, since GM would have issues, (have to pay) the gun maker of the Beretta gun to use the name. Besides, GM screwed the Beretta name up so bad, many would not even consider one, sort of what Ford did to the Escort.
@@inuyasha2092 that is true the SS seden sold from 2014-2017 gm pull it because it didn’t sell that well
it may not be your favorite, but the Quad 4 offered much more power in a smaller package. less weight, more horsepower, and even more torque. The car had it all. and as it turns out, the GTZ was the ultimate Beretta after all. The Grand Am also recieved this engine, and the Oldsmobile Achieva SCX recieved a much more potent 195hp W41 Quad 4. these cars were the fastest of their time. just a shame that GM phased them out with olds to bring that boring ecotec motor here.
God I miss the early '90s! 180hp 4cyl, 0-60 in 7.5sec, and 31mpg hwy! Sweeeeet.
Review of the 1990 Chevrolet Beretta GTZ.
it feels strange listening to a MotorWeek review without background music
GM quit making the Quad 4 to make room for the 2.4l Twin cam, because people were complaining that it was noisy. That and OBD2 made its entrance in 1996 into most GM and Ford cars and trucks. The twin cam came with balanced shafts, a different PS pump setup, and a new intake system to damper the noise. That is the reason they stopped making them. Its called NVH, and it happened to your honda as well.
man, i thought i knew a thing or two about Chevys but i have never heard of the Beretta before until now, i just found this randomly and i gotta say the car looks sharp and its credentials sound promising, me having wanted to own an American car like forever but being in germany a usual big engine American car is almost impossible to afford (running costs) but these rather "small engines" (by American standards) would certainly be worth looking into. i certainly will do my research on them.
After that, the 2.4l Twin Cam was discontinued in late 2001 because GM announced the end of Oldsmobile as a company in 2000.(which ended up bankrupting them 9 years later.) And they made room for the ecotech, which i believe was designed by some saab and GM engineers. And they used the basic design of the Quad 4 with some tweaks to make it more fuel efficient and to meet government regulations.
I had an '89 GT with the 2.8 motor. Loved the car. It was around until 2003 when it threw a rod.
I had a Grand Am with this engine. I was impressed that 180 hp could be generated out of a 2.3 from the 80's but not impressed with the cracked cylinder head at 90,000 miles! Not to mention all the other problems I had before that! Most unreliable engine I could think of next to the Cadillac HT4100! This is why I drive Toyota now and have been happy ever since without a visit to a mechanic since!
I seem to have gotten one of the few Quad 4's that wasn't junk. I had the head gasket replaced under a quiet "recall" they had & never had another problem. It performed great all the way until the guy I sold it to used it as a get away car in a robbery & flipped it several times. Sadly I saw it, mangled, on the evening news. They said "high speed chase" so it sounds like my Quad 4 ran strong until the end-
MotorWeek- 1990 Chevy Beretta GTZ Review
The 1994 Beretta Z26 was my dream car for a long time..........
5:04 That was Tomorrow by Tevin Campbell on the stereo. God! I haven't heard that song in over 20 years.
I took my Beretta GTZ to the drag strip with a friend, he had a 5.0 mustang He beat me both times we raced but only by about 1 1/2 car lengths. My GTZ was either a 1991 or 1992, i forget which year and his 5.0 was about the same year, an early 90's 5.0. Another friend of mine had a 6 cylinder Camaro, he thought it was quicker than my GTZ, he was wrong, about 3 car lengths wrong. I was able to get my GTZ into the high 15 seconds in a 1/4 mile, 15.8 or 15.9 1/4 mile at our local drag strip. When I bought it, I had no idea it would be as quick as what it was, it would even chirp the front tires when I shifted into second gear, it was a 5 speed manual.. It had a dual over head cam 16 valve 4 cylinder with, from what I was told when I bought it, an aftermarket computer chip, not sure if that was true or not but man it was a beauty. It had a custom black paint job with a couple silver strips that went over that car and very nice Enkei rims with very low profile tires. It was a blast to drive. It was the first car I bought with my own money. Before my GTZ, I had a Sunbird that my parents bought me when I got my drivers license when I was 16.
Edit: Didn't know it was a Muncie 5 speed. Muncie is where I was born and raised and where I drove my GTZ around, I still live in Muncie. Pretty cool hearing that fact.
Such clear image quality. What is this, off of a laser disc?
awesome video about the gtz thanks for adding it
That lumbar seat adjuster hand pump looks like it comes straight out of a hospital or a doctor's office! LOL!
Kevron Harris Right! I felt my blood pressure going up. XD
Funny how far we've come; 7.5 0-60 was considered impressive in the early 90's. Now it is common for a car to do 6 seconds 0-60.
i remember all my friends trying to glue the dash back down cause they always peeled up below the windshield that aside Beretta's were damn good looking cars
If I was going to buy a conventional compact coupe, a V6 Beretta in good condition would be high on the list. Test drove an 88 w/ 2.8L many years ago and loved it, but the deal didn't work out.
I'm generally not fond of FWD, and don't really like the quad4, but the Chevy 60degree V6 is one of my favorite small-car engines ever. A 2.8 or 3.1 Beretta is a sweet car.
John, that's GT ZED!!!! What are you American?
thats a car that served as basic transportation, got the job done. then when they all or most of them went to the scrappers they were easily forgotten about.
@Airox2009
Correction... how many can do it with WITHOUT direct injection and variable valve timing and be stock? Not many! The Quad4 was far ahead of its' time.
To marvel at how much GM has improved since accounting was booted from vehicle development control. In the switch back to an engineering led product development team, GM has begun making world-class product again after an almost 40 year absence from quality engineering. This isn't a bad car, the competition was just much better.
The NA 4 banger in this car is absolutely amazing but I wish they had the Euro3400 available for it in the GTZ trim.
Why didn't GM continue with the HO quad 4?
I always liked the way the GTZ looked.
I can't argue your personal experience, and I think we should all drive whatever makes us happy. Your vehicle is a personal expression of your tastes and desires. But, the rest (more than 50%) of America seems to agree with me, judging by their purchasing habits for the last ten years...
180 horses in 1990 without a turbo is huge power
Loved this thing back in the day. A white one was basically a dream car for a poor HS kid.
i love my 91 beretta 3.1 base its got balls and it looks great! lol
Amazing quality! Thanks to you uploader!
now that is a fine fine beretta.. i wish mine looked like that
Thankfully that color only was around for 90, my first new car was a 92 GTZ which had a new blue color for 92 and waited 6 weeks to get it
I'd have to agree with 91Taurus. I NEVER see '80s imports on the roads, where as American cars of that era are a dime a dozen. However, on the newer cars, it's more evenly distributed. By the way, 180hp out of a 2.2L I4 is pretty impressive even by today's standards, let alone by those of '90, so GM did do SOME impressive engineering. My first car was an '86 Pontiac 6000 STE. Bought it with 164k miles on the clock, & got rid of it with 225k (original motor & trans). Still lit up the wheels.
Hand Pump Lumbar Support..LMAO I'm sorry that made me lose it
yah I have had a beretta for 6 years now and just turned over 215,000 on it. It has been a really good car, mine has the SFI
V6 though unlike the one in this vid. i got it with 140,000 and havent had any problems accept for general maintenance, and with the V6 and light body it's snappy and quick, and can run or outrun even new cars. overall very good car.
I used to have a Corsica (first car) and was upset it wasnt a Beretta. The intro to the show seems older than 90. haha
I'm fairly confident that 0-60 in 7.5 seconds is very acceptable for a naturally aspirated 4 banger. Even by today's standards. This Beretta would probably run circles around the 2004 Dodge Stratus coupe I once owned.
Corsica and Beretta got drivers airbag for the 1991 model year and ABS in the 1992 model year. The car in this clip was probably built in 1989 as my 1990 build Corsica has an airbag.
180HP from a 2.2L 4 banger is impressive (it's so much harder to do today!). But are numbers the only important thing?
My friend had a 90 gtz and tried to pass me from behind. Turning right from a stop sign to a country road I pulled out and he a little behind me. I got to about 35 and see him changing lanes to pass me in my 68 Impala 327 th400. He had wound out first grabbed 2nd by then. I grabbed 1st, barked 2nd and he didn’t make it next to me and had to get back in his lane lol. Both of us had girls in the car..
It had all the looks, but too bad it never drove the way it looked.
Still, one of the better American cars you could but in the late 80s and early 90s. They all started to lose their edge by then...
FrightfulAccountant Especially by the mid 90s
@Airox2009
Correction... how many can do with WITHOUT direct injection and variable valve timing? Not many! The Quad4 was far ahead of its' time.
I love my 96' Z26. It's a great car for under 2000.
they also had two different types of manual transmissions too
It isn't the adjustable lumbar that is so funny, it is how you use it (the pump) that is so archaic! A simple lever or knob would do it!
yeah i know what you mean.and yes,there were cool cars in the 80s-90s,like your beretta gtz or a lumina z34,grand prix turbo,etc..but the syclones/typhoons and grand nationals...simply were at a higher level!!
What difference does it make how your lumbar support gets inflated? at least there are no electrical components to fail.
I'm not sure where you live but in Toronto I see tons and tons of 80s and 90s domestics. The 80s japanese cars all rusted out years ago, but I still see at least 5 Chevy Celebrities driving around everyday and they stopped making those in 1989.
But do i ever see a '89 toyota, very rarely and it usually has huge rust holes, bumper is held on with ducktape and the engine is knocking. I own two '91 Taurus in immaculate condition, our GTZ also perfect, but our neighbor's '95 civic is all rusted
Mines a 92 and it has 31k! :)!
Its so funny you mention probe gt's. My brother was obesessed with those cars and still is. He had a probe gt at the same time I had my gtz's. We never actually raced although we talked about it alot. It would have been pretty close I would imagine. Im not going to put down probes, because in fairness I think they are nice cars, but I still would take a gtz anyday over one of them.
I had a pair of Reebok pump shoes; you inflated the tongue with a finger pump so they would be tighter. Maybe GM was trying to steal their idea LOL!!
wow, I dont even know where to begin...
This car is one of the reasons why Honda and Toyota are number one now!!! And the quad 4 engine was just too expensive to repair.
the 1987-1996 Chevrolet Beretta was assembled in
Wilmington, Delaware, United States
Linden, New Jersey, United States
How many 80s and early 90s cars in general do you still see on the road? Not many.
ive had a 1990 beretta GTZ and a 1984 lazer, and the lazer will smoke the GTZ. But when my beretta drivin by a drunk friend hit a pole and cased the rear bumper, it fixed it self, the dent was popped out without a scratch before we got home :) but compared to the 2 i had, the beratta out handles the lazer by far.
Ahhhhhhhhhh, a Beautiful classic well in just 5-10 more yrs.PPL dont even Appreciate Berettas style,shape,and can be sleepers.
I had one once, that exact same color. Couldn't be any less reliable. Did a lot of work to it, and it handled great. Great gas milage, but so unreliable.
nice!! do u think that motor will mount to my brother's 89 beretta gt
@APBGrrl This intro was introduced in 1988 and ran to 1993. So all film in the intro must be pre-1988.
I would buy it today in a hartbeat
@Airox2009 Acura Integra Type-R (6.1), Acura Integra GS-R (7.8), Mazda 3s (7.6), Acura RSX Type-S (6.7), Subaru Impreza RS (7.8), Honda S2000 (6.4), Mazda Miata (7.5), Honda Civic Si (99-00: 7.2, 02-05: 7.6, 06-10: 6.3)...
The GTZ is a great car, but there are a TON of NA 4 cylinders that will do 0-60 as fast or faster.
i thought this gtz would have a 3.4 v6, never knew there was a high output 4 under the hood. im not hating on beretta's but a gsx eclipse would run circles around this heavy car.
I like em more than Cruze, but I felt they're just too mainstream?, its like they needed a side model??
I'm not an expert but in the 90s was the Cavy and the Beretta so different?, i mean i always liked the Beretta more.
i have 96 base model and i have been looking for a 2.0l turbo engine to go in mine. im thinking cobalt ss ecoboost.
Wish I still had my 90 gt
NO ABS? wow I wouldn't have though. In GTZ trim it's a sharp car.
I had one of these as a company car. What a shit box! I drove the shit out of it. It lasted two years of heavy, heavy use. Brakes were replaced twice during that time. Anyway, life goes on....
david dykeman Wasi it a 4 or 6?
Unfortunately it was only a 4 as the company paid for everything including the gas, insurance and maintenance We were able to pick the colour only..
notice the copious amounts of wheelspin off the line. with a better launch, i wouldn't be surprised to see mid 15's stock.
of course id also love to have any of them two,or the GN(because of the looks!)but the beretta clearly handles better because of weight,height..,althought the sy/ty´s brake better
anyway,those sy/ty`s got very good brake system!btw,ive just found out that there´s a typhoon here in spain(we dont have any american car!).i really would like to travel to the US for buying a GN..here those cars cause a lot of impression,almost everybody likes them!i dont need a gnx,a "normal" gn is enough hehehe.what was their price some years ago?
this engine was later replaced by the 3.1 v6 in allot of applications a few years later. 3.1 v6's are highly reliable even today many of them still run great after doing some minor repairs... can the same be said 22 years later for the toyota that you are driving now??? i doubt it.
@RuggerMango The Beretta was hella fast, faster than a Honda Civic Si of the same year. I guess the Si would be behind to the RV's rear bumper the whole time. :)
John, what is this zeeeee you speak of? I think you mean zed. Anyway, carryon.
MOST of Detroit is engineering comparable vehicles now, but the statement I made was fact. You haven't noticed the lack of 80s and even 90s domestic metal on the roads? But many Honda's, Toyota's, Mercedes-Benz, and VW products of that era are still being driven daily... Thats because the informed owners of cars like this Chevy got pissed at the garbage build-quality and there next vehicle purchase was an import! Thats why the "Big Three" are in the red now.
Wow cant belive I found this video. Well theres a Quad4 W41 engine on oldsmobile calais that does 1/4 in 14.5 secs and custom turbo @ 12.9 secs.
Still looks good
ive got a 95 beretta such a sexy car X)
LOL, cars of my highschool years! I love these old videos! The beretta was such a POS! It's amazing what junk was put out back then.
Lee N Beretta fell victim to Chevy not giving a crap and focusing on the Cavalier Z24 and Camaro
I have to say as much as he came across as an ass, the GS-R does beat this car in straight line acceleration and most likely in slalom as well. The GS-R test that motorweek did was able to get a 14.9 1/4 mile time. Regardless, I LOVE The GTZ and the GS-R both. I'm not as much concerned about these things anymore, but finding special models like the GTZ and seeing how bad-ass they were for the day (And still quick by today's standards) is nothing short of spectacular!
Thats pretty damn fast for 1990. Its as fast as the camaro.
Hrmm, must have had shitty gearing but I figured that with 190hp and less weight than my B16 specV, it'd do much better than 15.9. Cool car though, but I always remembered hearing about these quad 4s having some pretty bad issues.
...What about how the engine sounds? How the car drives? NVH!? Peak chassis resonances? Torsional rigidity? Impact safety? Build quality? Interior cut lines? Exterior cut lines? Materials quality? Suspension design?
The list of places where GM decided to cut investment costs for more profit and watch as the competition created superior product is outlandish. I should know, I'm an engineer. The decline of the American automobile was my final Thesis.
hand pump lumbar support????? it existed XD
There playing Tevin Campbell at 5:03
Long Live Tevin Campbell
im driving one now and its crap, maybe would be alright if the guy who gave it to me took better care of it it would of been alright, but its not.. just going to keep driving it till it dies or i get a new job
i swear these things are CURSED!! I bought one used 11 yrs ago and broke down over and over when i was out of town.. my friend bought one and did the same thing, another friend bought one and was killed on impact both est. at 45 mph..
they should bring the beretta back