I just love these old episodes! They don't write them like this anymore. I binge watch all the time.... I miss these old storylines and the ppl that used to be on them. I miss Stephanie, the old Ridge, the old Hope, Taylor, Phoebe, Owen, and Captain Nick! 👍😥♥️
Ridge putting Brooke and her daughter Hope before his own children was a clumsy rewrite. Ridge was married to Brooke when he discovered that he had fathered Thomas. He divorced Brooke in order to be a full time father to his son. For four years he was devoted to Taylor and their family until HT left the series. On her return in 2009, Bell Jnr foolishly decided to change the narrative. Suddenly Brooke and her family were more important to Ridge than the family he established with Taylor which had never been the case before.
Agreed. I hate that they changed a lot of the narrative and original premise of the show and its characters. Bill Bell was a supreme storyteller and writer. They messed a lot with Taylors character, that was a beautiful family. Taylor was a strong woman and good role model. I also hated when Stephanies character was messed with when Massimo was the father of Ridge. I hated all of that. None of that was part of Bill Bells original premise. The show has definitely deteriorated. I understand why someone of the calibre of Susan Flannery left. It must have been hard for her to see the decline of a once great show.
This Is Why I Really Don't Have A Whole Lot Of Sympathy For Katie She Wanted Him Ruthless With The Forrester's A Family She Claims To Care About What A Joke
@@janetferrari9188 Not when Liam found out that his future wife and Father was in the sheets 🛏️ bed together Liam sense of humor flew right out the door ADIOS November 28,2021
Who does Ridge think he is? He is one owner and he cannot ban the other owners of FC from coming into the building. Seriously, Steffy should have exerted her legal rights on him.
I love Hope and Liam it was them that got together way before Steffy she was the one that tried to destroy them and became a third wheel. She was after Liam knowing that he and Hope loved each other.
She no longer trusts you RIdge. Bill offered Steffy belief and warmth and strength when Ridge wasn't there. There is a reason Steffy falls for Bill Spencer sometimes. He's there during the lowest times of Steffy's life.
Lol yeah I can see why Liam gets the girls. He makes them laugh and makes them feel better about themselves. Key to a woman's heart is laughter. Hope was feeling horrible and here came Liam out of nowhere making her feel better and making her laugh. He would do the same thing to Steffy a year from this point and thats why she got hooked on him
Ronn Moss might not be the world's greatest actor but he had screen presence and most importantly he had great chemistry with the other actors. Back in the day, the story of his Ridge being torn between Brooke and Taylor was an important part of the show's success. On top of that he was believable in the role of a fashion designer. The same can't said for his replacement Thorsten Kaye. And if you don't believe me take a look at the current ratings.
Liam and Hope were meant to be together. But Steffy came along and decided to destroy them to get Liam. Steffy was more suitable for Bill, they are both manipulative and always in cahoots with each other
A Huge National Conglomerate ....but yet he lives in some small Beach House LMOA Bill Spencer. Sr...Never had a son..such a joke His character only had a daughter, Caroline. What a creep lol ! I always fast forwarded his scenes yuk.
Love him or hate him Bill was speaking straight facts!
I just love these old episodes! They don't write them like this anymore. I binge watch all the time.... I miss these old storylines and the ppl that used to be on them. I miss Stephanie, the old Ridge, the old Hope, Taylor, Phoebe, Owen, and Captain Nick! 👍😥♥️
So Hope never blames Liam for anything,just Steffy.Back then and even today.
Hope has called Liam out before. Even recently on the new episodes.
Cry me a river
She's just like Brooke. Everyone to blame except the Logans and anyone they designate...
Things are same.
Ridge still protecting Brooke.
I love Bill Spencer the character.
Dang Bill was right on ... he put brooke 1st over his kids every time ...some family members you gotta love from a distance 🤔
Ridge putting Brooke and her daughter Hope before his own children was a clumsy rewrite. Ridge was married to Brooke when he discovered that he had fathered Thomas. He divorced Brooke in order to be a full time father to his son. For four years he was devoted to Taylor and their family until HT left the series. On her return in 2009, Bell Jnr foolishly decided to change the narrative. Suddenly Brooke and her family were more important to Ridge than the family he established with Taylor which had never been the case before.
Brook married Ridge knowing she was pregnant with Thomas , Ridge didn't know Taylor was pregnant at the time .
Agreed. I hate that they changed a lot of the narrative and original premise of the show and its characters. Bill Bell was a supreme storyteller and writer. They messed a lot with Taylors character, that was a beautiful family. Taylor was a strong woman and good role model.
I also hated when Stephanies character was messed with when Massimo was the father of Ridge. I hated all of that. None of that was part of Bill Bells original premise. The show has definitely deteriorated. I understand why someone of the calibre of Susan Flannery left. It must have been hard for her to see the decline of a once great show.
I like this actress as Hope soooo much more than the one we have now.
The change is realistic
Bill is right. Ridge is a jerk. Always putting Brooke and Hope first.
True but so is Bill
Always...Even in 2024...
This Is Why I Really Don't Have A Whole Lot Of Sympathy For Katie She Wanted Him Ruthless With The Forrester's A Family She Claims To Care About What A Joke
Hatie Katie has always been jealous and spiteful.
Hatie Katie peeing her pants thinking Bill is going to get her CEO chair back at Forrester lol
I hated when Katie was CEO, obnoxious and arrogant
Katie has always been a jealous, obnoxious, sanctimonious cow… LOL 😂 she should have been keeping an eye on her sister… the human mattress.
Nothing has changed same ole same ole katie
I miss this Bill Spencer. They've ruined him so badly. When he first came to the show, he was a man with a backbone and was SO sharp and smart.
Every role Scott Clifton plays, he always seem to make it comical
I like that about Liam, he is a funny guy
@@janetferrari9188 Not when Liam found out that his future wife and Father was in the sheets 🛏️ bed together Liam sense of humor flew right out the door ADIOS November 28,2021
@@sheiladavis6523 yeah, that wasn't even a little bit funny
@janetferrari9188 Lol well of course. Why would he laugh at that lol
He has charisma.
Ridge let brooke and hope divide him from his 3 children.
Except ridge has 4 kids not 3 Rj is his son by Brooke!
@@henriettaowens6291 exactly it's all about Brooke and her children and to hell with his other kids. If they didn't come from her she doesn't care
@@crisvanfan hell she doesn’t even care about the ones that come from her she is a narcissist.
JMW (Steffy) and Ronn Moss(Ridge) look like father and daughter in real life. I love Ridge and Taylor and their children.
Ridge is a horrible person and father, he will always defend the SL** Brooke and her brat
Right at this moment ridge putting his arms around steffy made me cringe 😬
Bill may have been right, but he still didn't deserve her stock!!! Steffy should always stick with her family!!
Her father should have stuck with her he always disappoint her and his son
Ridge never stood by Steffy, Taylor or Thomas
Katie where's the outrage, so calm when it is not Steffy!
Bill is so in awe of Steffy.He is just a little too old for her.
Not little old! Bill is way older than Steffy. He can be Steffy’s father. Liam is also older than Steffy.
I'd take Steffy and Bill... Donna and Eric is disgusting
Hope dump Oliver when set her eyes on LIam
Oliver banged her mom I’d of dumped him too.
@@darkcrazybeautiful89 I totally agree with you 💯 I would had put Oliver under the bus 🚌 with the quickness November 28,2021
I wonder back in these episodes did Hope and Steffy ever new that in the future they would be fighting over Liam.
And both have daughters by him
Who does Ridge think he is? He is one owner and he cannot ban the other owners of FC from coming into the building. Seriously, Steffy should have exerted her legal rights on him.
That's what I was thinking.
I love Hope and Liam it was them that got together way before Steffy she was the one that tried to destroy them and became a third wheel. She was after Liam knowing that he and Hope loved each other.
The original hope 😘😘😘
She’s not the original Hope.
The man’s got a point 3:13
Hope and Liam were very cute. Not surprising the poor girl had some neuroses from the beginning!
so liam thought Steffy could be with blood sister and also out of his league so he liked Hope because Liam likes to save the under dog
save her from what ? she saved him and gave him a life, when he was cooper steffy never gave him a second look, thats the real difference
Liam’s first Love #TeamLiam&Hope😘😘🙌🏽🙌🏽
Lish Lealuga always
Team #Steam Liam and Steffy
Love them so much, pure love! Wish it was still like this never steffy between them
But not Hope's that is Oliver.
Things didn't change
Seriously another Logan who cheats and steals a business that belongs to the Forrester’s
She no longer trusts you RIdge. Bill offered Steffy belief and warmth and strength when Ridge wasn't there. There is a reason Steffy falls for Bill Spencer sometimes. He's there during the lowest times of Steffy's life.
Surprised we've never seen Liam's stepdad on the show.
very lucky liam and hope from the beginning
Biggest Lope (Hope and Liam ship name) supporter in the universe.
Billie Seaton after me
I have to admit, im not a Hope fan but her and Liam were cute at the beginning.
Awww, I have never seen the beginnings of Liam and Hope. They are so adorable!!
You never see their kitchens!
If Liam's mom wanted Liam to find his dad, why didnt she just tell him who he was when she first got breast cancer?
I love liam n hope 😘😘😘
♥Liam and Hope♥
Hope is sweet, she helped both Liam and Wyatt find out that bill is their father
@Lynnee21 T Bill didn't find out until the paternity test.
@Lynnee21 T Jared suspected it.
Its always been hope ❤️❤️😩😩
Hope and Liam were cute together here. And I agree with her "being with someone who made love with my mother is repulsive". Amen.
Ridge was as bad as his wife.
Best rivalry in the show 7:59
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Steffy should have cut Ridge out of her life he's a horrible person and father
Lol yeah I can see why Liam gets the girls. He makes them laugh and makes them feel better about themselves. Key to a woman's heart is laughter. Hope was feeling horrible and here came Liam out of nowhere making her feel better and making her laugh. He would do the same thing to Steffy a year from this point and thats why she got hooked on him
I've got Ridge he"s been a great dad to me now it's 2024 she's trying to take his company
What about you Katie, Brooke hurry I so many times
Bill speaks the truth
Hope was 😍 for Liam even when he was a nobody
I don't understand that this Ron Moss has been allowed to play this character for so long. Terrible person to hear and to see .....
Ronn Moss might not be the world's greatest actor but he had screen presence and most importantly he had great chemistry with the other actors. Back in the day, the story of his Ridge being torn between Brooke and Taylor was an important part of the show's success. On top of that he was believable in the role of a fashion designer. The same can't said for his replacement Thorsten Kaye. And if you don't believe me take a look at the current ratings.
Ronn Moss was made for this role . He played it very well . He had the best Chemistry with Katherine Kelly Lange as Brooke.
Bill and Katie are great together
Ridge is not Hope's dad
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Lope ridicule
Liam and Hope were meant to be together. But Steffy came along and decided to destroy them to get Liam. Steffy was more suitable for Bill, they are both manipulative and always in cahoots with each other
I would have told ridge go to hell father or not
A Huge National Conglomerate ....but yet he lives in some small Beach House LMOA Bill Spencer. Sr...Never had a son..such a joke His character only had a daughter, Caroline. What a creep lol ! I always fast forwarded his scenes yuk.
Such a wimb
Raw meat. Gross 😷