That Rolling Stone Guy and Why Our Music is Eternal (KHS After Show). Karen Hunter, Dr. Daniel Black
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2023
- Dr. Daniel Black joins Karen for an after-The Karen Hunter Show (on SiriusXM) conversation about the #NYTimes interview with #JannWenner about why he didn't interview Black artists or women for his latest book on music. He said he couldn't find any articulate enough. Dr. Black breaks down why our music and the articulation of it cannot be done through a yt power structure.
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I sat in a room full of white art therapist and asked them if they'd studied Black American music as a high form of art therapy. They sneer when they don't have a clue. I read the Jann Loser interview and was apoplectic all day. White people so rarely understand what they are really looking at. I needed that release. Thanks.
Those who can't do, talk ish. He wasn't penalized for what he said, he was penalized for saying it publicly.
The trauma and the healing are intertwined in each lyric.
Dr Black is a whole vibe. He gives a sermon every time he’s on the show and breaks it all the way down. Thanks Prof Hunter for having him on!
Dr. Black is right… “we don’t need white approval. I love our people!
1000%
I am so annoyed every year with this "Oscar so white" and "Grammy so white" crap! Of course it's white. It was never created for us. We must value our own greatness. Any day we stop focusing on the white man's validation, we will see how much they want our attention.
The most ironic thing is they think we need their approval and when we don’t ever mad at us to the point at 62 years of age all I can do is laugh so hard my until my stomach hurts 😜😜😜😜
"Black people owned the choir, and White people owned the theology." BABBA BLACK! You wrecked me right through there!!!! My God today!!!!
Those words did it for me, it's 04:00 in the morning, and I WAS returning to my sleep when I heard this conversation. 🎉🎉🎉🎉👏🏿
That observation blew my body and soul.
Straight fire! When are we going to stop delivering our children up to them and calling it success?
Sounds to me like when Jann recognized a thing that is so beyond his understanding, he developed a hate for it that he did his best to treat it as irrelevant rather than have to admit it was a height and a depth he and those like him didn't have the capacity for.
AMEN!!!!!!
This is indeed INSANE and it is EXACTLY why we must have our own labels, our own award shows, our own standards of beauty, movies made by us for us, OUR OWN!!! And as far as music, we dont make music, WE ARE MUSIC!
I agree. We don't owe our talents to anyone.
🙏🏾🙏🏾 Amen
Black people need to own their music i.e publish, distribute and buy it then create a black magazine to celebrate it. It's time to transition away from Rolling Stones and music industry racism and establish a future toward totally independence.❤❤❤❤❤
Oh yessssssss!!!! He delivered a service that I needed this morning!!!!! Say that say that say that!!!! Amen and Ashe!!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
This was such a powerful discussion…. Thank you 🙏🏿
Dr. Black ALWAYS gives that energy!❤❤❤❤
I never checked for "Rolling Stone" magazine, and I'm from the 70's. They weren't that hip to me anyway.
Thank you both, Dr. Hunter, Dr . Black.
I needed this...❤
R.E.A.L
Dr. Black always enjoy hearing you Sir such a blessing and thanks Prof. Hunter
DOCTOR BLACK!!!!
SPEAK!!! SIR!!!!!
Lord this is blessing me Smh
😭Thank you SO much for having Dr. Black on your show. Made me cry for the brilliance of Our People, the strength of Our People, and the resilience of Our People against such great odds for centuries. Thank you Ms. Hunter.‼️
Breaking down our music for real! Also that Choirs held the message that is in our music. Thank you Prof. Hunter and Dr. Black!
Good Jesus! Thank you for this! I felt this all the way here in Amsterdam. Our music in Suriname has similar patterns in terms of approach, performance etc.
ASE 🎉Dr. Black was on point! Let me state, THE WRONG PEOPLE ARE GIVING INTERPRETATION TO BLACK MUSIC🎉WP cannot interpret SPIRIT from a non-spiritual standpoint. "Know the SPIRIT, by the SPIRIT." This is why we need these platforms! To combat, critique these pathologies being put out by WS media. I believe this was a distraction to get a rise out of us. We are still the greatest story! Loved the discussion Professor Karen ❤
Word Up.......
Dr. Black is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
To say I absolutely LOVE the 2 of you together in the understatement of the century!!!
I love us together, too. That man stretches my soul.
Chills are literally running through my body. I’ve always believed there was more than one path to God. I didn’t know how to properly give language to it. I know now. These are the conversation worth having. Thank u Karen and Dr. Black. My spirit is blessed.
OMG! This is probably the best discussion I've heard about Jann's comments versus the reality and truth about music. I had a Black instructor in college who was also a musician who played with some of the jazz greats (Ella, Nina, Billie, Sarah, etc.). He made himself quite clear. Rock n' Roll would not even exist had it not been for BLACK MUSIC. If you talk to some of the great white rockers, they would all say, rock n' roll would not exist without black music. And jazz and blues is some of the original black music. So true. So sad to be Jann Wenner.
I loved this discussion. Very enlightening ❤
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Preaching and teaching!
I so love listening to Dr Black interviews. Thank you Prof Hunter for all the work you put in. Blessings to both of you ♥️
The word of the day in Black America is ''transmutation '' and the reasoning behind that word is a billion% truth !!
The reason Weiner would not interview us or women was that he didn’t want a different narrative. His intent was no emotion, history, feelings or anything that made the music great. He wanted sex, drugs and interpretations of Rock and Roll from a perspective he feels comfortable with. I grew up in the 60’s and the establishment has always looked down on black music. They said our genius wasn’t technically proficient and the music was simple. While their music was essentially noise.
Professor Hunter and D. Black, you all have ONCE AGAIN BLOWN MY MIND!!! This is sooo eye-opening, soul-opening, and academically astounding!! OMG Please keep it coming.
NYT article on Wenner & his racism should get more attention. Explains SO Much. Resistance to crediting our creative STARS. Locked out !
That's the words I was looking for and didn't even know it..."Drunk with the wine of the World."
Always a great show! Thank you
The flip of the glasses said something very powerful!!!
That ending note was EVERYTHING! I also thought about the Little Richard story that just came out as you all talked Black music. I watched it in the plane and his need for recognition from white America made me sad.
Music of this country has our ancestors and our Black people all over it.
Whoa!!!🔥the anointed sounds in church transforms everyone who is open to it. If the sound moves you that’s the Holy Spirit. The preacher is a there to appeal to your mind to break the stubbornness of your intellect. The choir breaks your hardened heart. If they do their job correctly, you will cry out!🙌🏽🔥🙏🏽
Thank you for that spiritual vitamin today Professor Hunter and Dr. Black.
See THIS conversation is way over Mr RS head. He’s so ignorant about rock music which originated from Sister Rosetta Tharpe, that he doesn’t know he’s stupid.
Oh and RS has had him gainfully employed for decades knowing exactly who and what he is.
A studio recording musician told me years ago that the Rolling Stone magazine was self important and we should not give it any measure of distinction. Now that’s confirmed he was correct in that assessment.
Great Conversation. Points Spoken, Noted, Needed and Heard⁉️. Thanks for Sharing 🎈👈🏿😎
Dr Black is amazing!😊
he really is!
And is .. ❤
@@KarenHunterShow
I'm a Musician.
This is the Best
I've heard on your Channel.
Thanks for having Dr. Black on
To Properly Articulate a Piece of
Black Music History!
C'mon Dr. Black with the transmutation!❤️🖤💚
Speak Dr Black.
I just got a Monday evening Service ❤️🙏🏾❤️🥰….thank you Professor Hunter and Dr Black🤗
Professor Hunter, thanks for sharing this conversation with Dr. Daniel Black, "making it real clear", kudos.
He preached this morning! Thank you for this!
Yes! Thank you!
Karen, you are one BAD Sistah! Thank you for your vision, your passion and all that you do!!!
Ooo-wee!!! I'm so full, what a blessing! Karen, thank you so much for the platform you provide. Dr. Black is always a gift of truth, knowledge, and re-membering!
These convos always put me in a great mood. Very casual but with such powerful message! I love you both for that ❤
Love you back!
Thank you Dr. Black. Spot on
Transmuting our trauma. Yes. This is me. It has kept me from running amok.
Music has carried us through it all and continues to do so. They still don't know. There irony in that is still not lost to me. Even in today's music its's still in there, in much smaller doses but it's still in there.
Thank you for this. This Wenner character reminds us that no matter the apparent acceptance, even love of Black music there is often a hidden, almost cosmic level of contempt and ignorance directed and attached to the Black people who create that music that goes along with the music itself. Preach!
Grateful that we getting these racist on record for post-racialist and future historians.
Welp
This touched my spirit.
Iam so HAPPY I heard this discussion between you and Dr Black...#1 I just had the discussion with self regarding the preached word vs the songs from the choir..and 2nd Mary and Martha....thank you so much for speaking Our Truth..😊
I just watched this video and had a " brush arbor" experience.... ( outside the church!!!!! In the field!!!!!!) Dr. Black blessed this exchange and said everything that needed to be said!!!!! If it wasn't for the creativity of our people, ( especially the divine feminine of Black Women...... where would we be!!!!!) The testimony of still being here/ hear is God in us!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 " There is another court who hears and pleads our case!!!
This After Show was SO informative! Breaking down the music and the movement of the Spirit 🙏🏾🖤🎶
Dr. Black, I feel like singing! You connected moments and memory!
Peace King. Peace Queen. Dr. Hunter. Dr. Black. Peace.
I consider this a powerful build. He is so correct on so many levels. I’m a street Dj from OP in Boston. I grew up w New Edition.
Sis even though you cannot hear the trauma in their songs I’m telling you it’s there.
Great discussion. Powerful build.
Twelve Gates means 12 Gates. Powerful build! Ashay Ashay
I had to pause and take a moment after the 3:50 - 4:03 mark,... hmmmmmmmmmm 😳😮💨🙂 This is as real as it can get,... ok, back to watching ☕️
Not only the trauma, but the amalgamation of culture: the blend of African tongues and cultures is what makes music and art of the Diaspora so unique. Our ancestors took fragments of different cultures and created beauty. They can't even begin to understand, that we don't have to articulate it. The audacity to leave out Black artists when they are the originators.
Loved the commentary, Professor Hunter !
God bless Dr. Black! God bless Karen!
I love music 🎶
Dr Black and Karen, thanks for sharing.
TY Karen & Dr Black🙏🏾❤
Brilliant, brilliance.
I would live this man to write a book of who he believes are the TRUE MASTERS of Rock n Roll.
AWESOME PhD stuff Dr Omotosho & Karen Hunter
There need to a docuseries, 10 parts, 2 hours each on gospel music. ALL of this popular music PULLED FROM GOSPEL. PERIOD!!!!!
I read the article and also positioned myself as an observer. Being present to the space the words were coming from. Fear and insufficiency will always reveal itself despite trying to appear superior.
Thank you both Prof Hunter and Baba Omotosho...One Love!
deep! i love y'all, you guys, my people
I saw this on CBS this morning. Like why do we really care? This man is crazy.
Got me taking notes!!
You is preaching Dr Black!!!
Baybee the way Dr Black sends me into the atmosphere in the best way! Love you two together ❤
Baba Omotosho, you nailed it, AGAIN!
Listen Karen! You leave New Edition outcha mouf!!! IJS :)
lol...I did that on purpose.
I believe it is critically important that black people root our story in our pre-European African origins as opposed to the traumatic impact of white supremacy on our people. This sort of thinking does not ignore the true history and pain of our people but rather, gives us an opportunity to heal, connect, grow, and love ourselves whole again. This will be able to reconnect the lost children of kidnapped African peoples with our tribes, our history, and our traumatized African counterparts that were not kidnapped from the continent and thereby impacted quite differently.
beautiful post,
love
This man is amazing
Speak Dr Black yes yes 🙌🏾🙏🏾
Just heard Dr Black mention growing up in Arkansas. Looked him up he grew up near Morrilton. Family from there Simpson, McKinney, Cato ….
Love Love Love Love❤
As always, this fed my being!!!❤
All I gotta' say, "Woooo". Truth after truth after truth.
Carlos Santana is telling us what he is about and what he is involved in. He has been saying these things for years.
Thank you Daniel Black. This is the absolute truth.
Billie Holiday was abused badly ... and she was an so so talented she was so so beautiful. Also, Tina Turner sang Rock music as well as others. Prince, Stevie Wonder and Jimi Hendrix. I need to read the article with Jann Loser
Yes tell the truth
Dr Black just rocked the boat.
Hard!! 🎉
Professor hunter is on fire 🔥
Here’s what I learned as a musician: on average colonizers cannot legitimately create a slow jam. The slow rhythm confounds their internal clock. I learned this years ago. Test this theory if you will.
Go 'head 🤭🤭🎸
This was refreshing.. Thank You
Thank you Karen and Dr Black, loving it.
WE R MUSIC AND RHYTHM !! And everything about us is about rhythm and them folks haven’t figured it out since 1619 how to really deal it or us since that time !!
Fabulous!
Thank you 🖤
Love you and the ever essential knowledge that’s dropped. Thank You ❤
Interesting Topic!!❤
As I've always advocated, black artists should have always refused inclusion into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. The inclusion of black artist was always an attempt at hegemony. That is, an attempt to bring black music under the umbrella of rock and roll. The Rock n Roll HOF therefore has been attempting to be the arbiter of music quality and depth. Thus, it warmed my heart that Dolly Parton initially refused the induction into the R&RHOF. She was refusing them the clout of incorporating her and thus the appearance of even evaluating the quality or performance of country music. I want black artists to do the same. Amother high moment of R&RHOF performances was when Prince showed up and shut down all those storied white HOF guitarists--such as Tom Petty, etc.. And I think something can be said of the fact that the HOF founder has become gay and apparently now lives in a highly concentrated--if noy an exclusive--white male environment. So much for coalition.
About Dr. Black, his energy and many of his pounts r soothing to the spirit.
Thanks for this addition! Ashe.