Improving Backside 50/50 Grinds On A Skateboard In A Bowl and On Mini Ramp Coping
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- In this episode I’m working on getting longer, faster 50/50 grinds in the bowl and on the mini ramp.
All music by www.jonbishopguitar.com
im going to be watching these videos for decades
I've been fighting with 50-50 grinds for a long time and what worked for me is to think of the grinds as extended carving. What I mean is that I go up diagonally as if I would be carving but I keep going up until I lock in my trucks, I put a bit of pressure in the back foot just to keep it locked in on the right position.
The important part here is to keep the body inside the ramp, I never try to launch myself up and stand on the deck, otherwise the trucks will not lock in perfectly and ready to drop back in. The shoulder as you have noticed is important, turn your shoulders like when doing a carve and the skate will follow.
It is nice to do like that specially when skating a bowl, grinding in the curved areas of the bowl and get that nice and smooth flow going.
It's the kitesurfing heritage that is making your front shoulder open. I have exactly the same problem. What helped me forcing my front hand to the inside of my front knee.
Jon youre a mad genius. I applied the tips and got really good bs grinds. I never wouldve dreamed of it!
Ha, great stuff, this was a while back, I need to record an update also !! Best JB
Yes Bish..Brilliant progress those grinds are super long and stylish..Well done
Cheers Rivs, it’d be a good one for you to start chipping away at now I recon as you are consistently grinding the coping no probs. It took me a while, but you learn quicker than me !!
@@JonBishopSkate I have actually found a nice 3ft mellow quarter that is pretty wide so can hopefully maybe start having a go at some grinds. I have been practising axel in drop ins on leek bowl and seem to be getting the hang of them but yeh they look great fun
Mark Rivers yeah, axle in is the scary bit, so you are over half way there !!
Just come across your videos. Dude you explain the moves, the psychology the overall dynamics really well. Gonna try the spine after watching your video ✌🏽✌🏽
Good stuff dude, Many thanks for tuning in! I find the spine proper scary, go careful on that bad boy !!
Dude got the spine yesterday. Many thanks for your video. It was the psychology descriptions I found really helpful 👍🏽
Stephen Basu great dude, that’s ace, yeah for me it’s often a bit of head game !!
Thank you for the stoke!!!
I have been loving your vids man, and watching your progress. I used to skate street in highschool, I am back after 25 years away, skating transition now. You are an inspiration!
Nice one dude! I wish I was skating in the Mid 90’s !!! Looks like it was a rad time !
Nice have a little skate with ya the other day at prevail mate keep the vids coming!! Great job as always bud
Nice one Alex, yeah great session that !!
Yah what gets me on grinds is when the front back trucks aren't cross locked, front toe wheel back heel wheel, then I'm basically either coming right back into the ramp or going for a coffee break on the deck. Nice follow up vid 👍, love it when you come back to something with more insight and a higher degree of difficulty! 🛹🔥💯🤜
Yeah man, it’s taken me unusually long to get anywhere with these, still got more practice to do to get them 100% on lock
You're killing it man. Grinding is something that I struggle with but I will put your tips in practice
Love it! Me now 42 and skating again. Love the video’s helps allot.
Great work! So much improvement and very motivating. Thanks for posting!
Great stuff mate, I’ve spent so much time on these over the past couple of years too because they are so much fun, I lock in with the total opposite diagonals which is far less common but it really helped me not open my shoulders like you were talking about, the other thing that helped with that was blasting through and grinding round the bowl corner it’s such a buzz you should try them too, my last upload has a few but so do most of them as it’s become my go to run in the bowl now.
Keep it up 👊🏼
Mate, never thought I'd see that flash of anger and a board throw from JB 😂
Ha, it’s only happened twice since I started, I think you were there for the other, when I came off that axle with no pads at corfe?
@@JonBishopSkate ha, I remember the elbow strike, but missed the throw!
Love your channel. Relearning my stuff again and you motivated to build my own minirampe and keep on Learning and Progressing. Like your Way of breaking tricks apart. When i see better skaters doing trick tips, i dont learn as much because they are on a lever too high. See your approach is so inspiring. Please do the 5-0 to fakie !
Many thanks for the kind comments dude.
Yeah 5/0 Fakie is proper scary!
I recorded a video on the feeble Fakie, which is pretty similar, all be it the front wheel is in the air with the 5/0 as opposed to being on the deck for the feeble?
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Hey Jon, great job. I'm also practising them currently. As some comments before I recommend you to cross grind them from the beginning. You change your back axle position anyway when coming in. It's more stable and looks more fluent.
Excellent as always
Nice one dude !!
Mate , that's really impressive nice one
Many thanks for tuning in dude!
Ever since I've learned 5-0s and smiths I can hardly do 5050s
Duuuuuuude, that's sooo sick. I gotta try next time at the Park, I got a perfect setup for that on my local.
Brilliant!
Jon- it’s scary how good you are getting not only with your skating but the quality of your instruction and content. Epic stuff! Do you think surfing causes you to open your left shoulder too much?
Many thanks for the kind comment dude. Could be a bit from doing surfing floaters ?
I also think I open out due to the perceived danger as well? It just feels more committed to guide it with the shoulder ??
Yep, those were nice long and clean bs 50s. Congs man 🤘!
Cheers Dude, I hope you are well !
I m much better, thanks for asking dude. Skating less than last Spring to be honest, but have also been surfing several weekends in a row, also doing a lot of yoga and swimming to compensate. My sciatical pain seems to be gone so far, we'll see.
By the way, I fully agree with one of the comments below on how good and I'd add commited skater you are becoming. I love your slogan but I think you are more now a middle guy ripping than learning. Cheers mate!
Daniel Senovilla Hernández ha, great to hear dude, many thanks also for the kind comments, I recon the great thing about skating is I’ll always be learning. However I’ll have to change it to ‘Old Age Guy Learning How To Skate’ in a few years lol !!
Wicked 🤙
Cheers dude !
Nice! This is a hit or miss trick for me. Be sick if you can make it around the corner and back in!
Yeah man, it’s defo a goal to get round the corner. One of the local dudes is ace at it !!
You make it look too easy!
You’ve got the skills to pay the bills Jon! Any chance of breaking down a layback 5-0 sometime in the future? Awesome surf-style manoeuvre. Gagging to learn that myself but a few steps still to get there...
Hey dude, yeah the layback is defo on the list, I’ve had a good go at it a couple of times, but just ended up tearing the arse of my jeans out lol
Got to bring this to pool copeing now
Wicked, yeah that’d be ace, all the pool coping near by is round corners and grinding the corner is the next thing I need to learn to do !!
Looking smooth. Respect man, that 7'! Maybe it could help to try point your forward hand inside the bowl, then the shoulder follows as well. When you get up to start the pivot/grind, forward arm is sometimes pointed to the aft, probably to prevent over rotating. I'm no expert, just observing from other videos. Unfortunately I'm now a YT skater, waiting for a meniscus surgery. Did you try to go up to start the grind a little later and take a piece of that corner, or maybe next video, grinding the corner? Haha, keep the videos coming, I like to see the progress.
Hi Rob
Many thanks for checking in!
Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Great idea on the front arm, I’m gonna try that!
Yeah, round the corner is the dream and I recon will be the next video?!!
This! lead with your front hand and shoulder in towards the transition.
I have the same prob, upper body twisted out insted of in :-)
You can try to learn locking in with the trucks crisscrossed already from the beginning. To do that you have to grind more inside the ramp than you did here. I hope you can imagine what I'm saying 😁
Yeah, totally,
I do the criss crossed one a few times in here (4.00) and it feels great. I found that there is more friction though so I was coming up short of the full rail, but it looks more stylish and feels better. I think it’s the one I like to do the most?? I recon even more speed and better weight distribution during the grind would help. Next challenge is to go round corners, I’m guessing it’s all about guiding with the shoulder? Do you have any tips for B/S 50/50 round a corner? Cheers dude
@@JonBishopSkateyeah I saw that after I made the comment 😁. Crisscrossed lock-in grinds slower but way more controllable. You just have to be a little faster. Look at it this way: being all the way up on top is not a grind, but essentially rolling on the deck 😁
for going round the corner its even more crucial not being all the way on the deck, but locking in crisscrossed, leaning a bit into the ramp, going full speed and yes lead with the shoulder.
CORE TEX thanks dude, yeah I think it’s still a 50/50 grind with both toe wheels locked against the coping? That’s the way they are done on ledges and hubbas? It’s also the way I do the frontside 50/50 grind as the back heel wheel has to be locked against the coping to come back in? My mate does them with both toe wheels locked against the coping and then comes in without correcting the back wheel which results in a hop in (very cool) He can also go round corners this way??! Another mate of mine does them with both heel wheels locked on the coping, so he’s right inside the ramp? don’t know how he does it? But it works !!
Cheers, off to the park to try round the corners !!
Have you ever tried to skate street
Hey dude,
Yeah, love it, mostly curbs and simple stuff. Not good enough for ledges etc, my stair sets and hand rail window may well have passed, but never say never lol !!
Was the frustration part acted or was that’ real
Ha, I couldn’t act that level of spoilt brat, I’m ashamed, proper McEnroe !!