Good idea, I was getting tired of happy crimes and feel that portraying crimes in a dark manner would be an interesting path to explore! In all seriousness, I would love to see that channel also and support the idea!!
Worked on her electronics and navigations systems quite a few times in Newport News over the years. A big ship. Took for ever and millions to complete the upgrades once the US took her over. Harry Martin was a similar case but smaller than the Wheat.
Bender Shipbuilding is an American legend. I grew up fishing with a family who owned the smallest vessel Bender ever built, a 68 foot fishing trawler. She made her owner into a millionaire.
I worked on her back in early 2000's in What was Northshipco. The other thing I was told by those involved in her conversion and update was she had Ice breaking capability. Not sure if true or not. But she for sure had some very heavy structural steel. And if that is true. I'm very surprised that their going to break her up.
As a USN Veteran....I have Never heard of this vessel. Although we have such RO-RO ships (Roll-on/Roll-off) ships, this ship Looked like SHUGHART-class RO-RO vessel. Which had a flight deck, a stern ramp and a few cranes that can carry 110-ton cargos. Oh, by-the-way...... I Just 'Sub'!!
I see you are out of the hole. LOL GMG2 LST 1189 BB 63 Golden Shellback 1981 - 1989 Edit: What do you think of the unrep scenes? It looks to me the ships are going way faster than normal during the unrep.
You missed the biggest part of this ship! It was a gas turbine powered ship like most of our combat surface non Nuc ships But it used the waste heat From the turbines to make Steam and run the steam through the steam turbines to give more power for the same fuel. Gas turbines engines are not very efficient compared to the Diesels most merchant ships use. I think they wanted to see if the steam Bottoming waste heat cycle could be used in combat ships to lowered fuel consumption 20-25 %. There was a precedent for this, as before the Navy switched to the LM-2500 GE gas turbine as the standard combat ship engine they had a US merchant ship made with a gas turbine engine. GTS Admiral W.M. Callaghan Was the ship.
I resurrected the Callaghans radio and navigation electronics for the first Gulf war when she was being activated in Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Co. She had been towed out of the scrapyard to NNSDD. Never forgot the massive pile of parts that were the heavy lift derricks under the garage. No one knew how it went together and it took a lot of effort to get them assembled. On sea trials doing speed test the navy guy in charge pulled the engine controls, Bridge control, from full ahead to full astern with the result of two huge bangs and losing both engines. We rolled around off Cape Henry quite a while sorting that mess out. He had been warned by the port engineer not to do it. Another test was full astern doing 12kts when he went hard over port rudder. We expected either the rudders to snap or her to roll over but to her credit she went round in a perfectly upright circle. She wasn’t very successful as on her first load to the Med she hit a reef and tore a hole in her bottom and spent a long time in, I think it was Greece, being repaired. Interesting time.
This wasn't groundbreaking experimental engineering. Combined cycle and waste heat systems have been around for a very long time. The fact is, most combat ships that depend on gas turbines really don't have the room for a larger waste heat boiler capable of creating superheated and high pressure steam. Plenty of room on a 800+ foot cargo ship, not so much on a destroyer or frigate.
Okay...USNS Wheat carried Marine Corps preposition equipment. She could not refuel other ships, or detect missiles and submarines. You are confusing multiple ships with the Wheat.
As a retired Electrical Systems Officer in the British Merchant Navy I found this video very interesting. I was wondering is there any further information available on this vessel as it has been decommissioned? Best regards Gordon Carass.
Gordon. I was an R//O and REO in the British merchant navy for 15 years then a field engineer in Norfolk Virginia for 30 years. Spent a lot of time on USNS ships and MARAD vessels. A lot of them were ex commercial from foreign flag fleets or end of life American vessels. They were always a challenge but interesting. To sure where the Wheat is now. Would think she may have been too big to go up into the Ready Reserve Fleet on the James river in Virginia. Military Sealift Command, MSC, also bought three RFA vessels. Stromness, Tarbetness and Lyness. Worked on the Stromness and Lyness which were renamed Saturn and Sirius. The other one went to the west coast as Spica. As I sailed with the RFA on first going to sea I enjoyed working on the Saturn and Sirius, mostly S G Brown steering systems and gyros. Regards Bill
Isn't the navy horribly lacking in Sealift ships? I seem to remember a committee speaking of the bad stance of sealift command or that they need ships as many are commercial leases at the moment. I could be wrong, correct me if I am.
One of the most informational UA-cam episodes that I have ever watched. This is about a topic that I did not know existed. It makes absolute sense that what exists for support. At least we got something for money that we spent over there in Russia and Ukraine. Other than bunch of third-rate nuclear material. But even that we kept the black market. Then obama-clinton strike a deal to sell the Russians some of our premiere nuclear material. But at least we got no Russian ship that we completely gutted being rebuilt. But Russia still gets credit for building this ship. So this was an interesting episode thank you
Do you not think it would be in the interest of the Military Industrial Complex's interest to portray the USSR as a worthy, if not more powerful adversary? If you don't have a Boogie Man, then what's the point of building all these weapons.
Which would be half the size and a quarter of the carrying capacity 🤌 The USA doesn't match the Soviets in building large heavy lift vehicles (ships, planes, trains and helicopters) They might not be sophisticated or comfortable but Soviet heavy lift capabilities are STILL lightyears ahead of what the USA can build
I have to ask Why? what made this ship worth investing in, instead of just buy and cruising around in. What where the positives that made the navy thing it was worth the money?
You might consider the possibility that the US government wastes massive amounts of money, and that this ship was just one more on a very long list of boondoggles.
@@freesk8 The ship was pretty much free. The video mentioned the price as "Symbolic". They were using the radar to detect global missiles. Meaning they were used to uphold missile treatys in a non threatning way, while also gathering intel on adversaries capabilities like range, or where missile came from etc.
@StarFallen it was because at the time it had a gas motor and also a motor that recycled the engine heat into steam to give it more power using less fuel. The navy wanted to see if they could integrate that technology in our gas powered battle ships to save on fuel
If it bothers you enough to complain, maybe just unsubscribe and move on. Personally, I love the narrator's voice, dialect and lisp. It makes him unmistakable. I think he's a very educated and wise person.
Only radars I saw on her and worked on until 2019 were three Furuno FAR2827X and FAR2837S commercial radars. One X band on the foremast and one X band and one S band on the main mast aft.
@@divinewind6313 But again, investing so much time and money in that ship for the sake of "goodwill" is really not economical, especially since it was happening at the time of cutting costs for the military, since there was no longer the Warsaw Pact as an enemy
It's all about the fact that the USA is lightyears behind even Soviet heavy lift capabilities It might not be sophisticated or comfortable to use but Soviet stuff is big, robust, easily maintained, repaired and can be relied upon
@@richardcostello360 But without the ˝Liberty˝ cargo ships, Russians would speak German today So that's why I'm surprised that they took a bunch of rusted Russian steel to rebuild it and at the same time the US Navy was building the Nimitz class of aircraft carriers which was 50 years ahead of anything else sailing at the time Why couldn't they have built a class of such robust ships that would probably still sail today, unlike this Russian ship
$150M refit/upgrade and we only got 20 years service out of it!!!! And that doesn't include whatever was paid upfront for the ship , crew and operational expenses.
"It became apparent that The USSR was often successful in appearing to be more powerful than they actually were" ⬅️ most accurate words ever spoken, ~73 years ago 👏 😂 🇺🇸
Let's see we spent 6 years and millions of dollars to extend the ship and basically rebuild it from a keel up and yet you still give the Soviet Union credit for building it and while they have created it but they didn't Rebuild it into a Useful Ship!!! 🤠👍
It was my understanding that Russia produced better steel back in WW II times, and we are beholding to them for their help in that respect later with the war with Japan, wonder why and if that is still the case today? I imagine secrecy would be involved making it difficult to find out, but enjoy your vids and think that would be a neat topic if you could discover anything...
When working as a prepositioning ship, she was what they called an “e-ship” or enhancement ship. While the other ships of each Maritime Prepositioning Squadron carried a brigade worth of USMC gear, the E-ship, like you mentioned carried supporting gear like the field hospital, airfield equipment and Seabee gear.
They are covers for the ventilation fans for the cargo decks. Because she loaded running vehicles, they needed a lot of ventilation to get rid of all of the exhaust gases.
The only odd thing to me is that the paint scheme for naval ships with the prefix USNS is typically haze gray rather than black and white like a merchant ship. Or in other words, most MSC chartered vessels with this paint scheme are privately owned and merely chartered, employing totally civilian crews as opposed to the blend of federal civil service civilian mariners working alongside a limited number of regular navy sailors, typically in the supply department with the deck, engine and steward’s departments being merchant marine.
US government owned vessels that are either crewed by CIVMARS (civilian mariners employed by MSC) or contracted crews are painted gray with a gray funnel topped with a blue and yellow bands. Vessels owned by private companies and time chartered to MSC are white over black with a black funnel with the same bands at the top.
@@stephenbritton9297 Okay, thanks. I’ve worked on both types of ships as an AB. I preferred working on ships owned by private companies. For one thing, you get about four times as much vacation per year. But the USNS Concord was unionized by the now defunct NMU so the overtime rate was substantially better than what we got on SIU subsidiary SMU crewed pre-positioning ships but the M/V Advantage was my favorite vessel because we loitered in the western Mediterranean all of the time except when we went to Rota to tie up at the pier at the Spanish navy base there. Everywhere else we anchored out with launch service to save on fuel every weekend visiting Gibraltar, Malaga, Cartagena, Palma de Majorca, Barcelona, Nice, Toulon, Ville Franche, Naples, and Livorno. Hard to take all of that shore leave hauling a portable Air Force base and 10,000 tons of bombs. I would even rent hotel rooms sometimes we got so much liberty.
Russia still has a lot of shortcomings, starting with Putin. But they still have nukes. And their warped sense of manhood and honor (ego) may 'force' them to use them. Or at least Putin might yet try.
😂 how to say "I had no idea that trade unions would make this half the size and a quarter of the capability for 5 times the price" without saying that 😂
Wow ya dont even realize the basic things in converting a ship like the Hertz in the AC power lines for anything motorized or clocks or other devices like computer power supplies
Computers power supplies couldn’t care less about the frequency they are fed - their first step is to convert AC to DC and then up convert it to 20kHz for the internal voltage regulators. Any frequency between 40Hz and 400Hz will work just fine. Anything with an AC motor is more problematic as the motor speed is very sensitive. If the speed isn’t critical most 50Hz motors will work on 60Hz but 60Hz motors won’t work on 50Hz (because they draw more power and overheat).
There's a reason the international standards are 50 MHz....... only in America would you change shit to be different for no other reason than to be different
You mean to tell me that the United States government couldn't buy the same type of ship from an American manufacturer? Something is terribly wrong with the U.S. government!
You know that if this was made in the USA (only one company could make something in this class of ship) You'd have had half the size and a quarter of the capability for 5 times the price because of how destructive your trade unions are and the general lack of skilled technicians to actually build these sorts of ships😂 Hell the only "friendly country" that would even attempt to build this would be South Korea
@Richard Costello Then Richard if what you say is true. The next aircraft carrier will not be made in the united states but a foreign country or any other u s naval vessel RIGHT !
New idea: Dark Crimes: A channel about notorious crimes throughout history.
Howdy, have you tried, crime zone or mob reporter , channel ?
Dark crimes? Sounds racist. 😂
I think there’s too many Dark channels but I do like this idea
Good idea, I was getting tired of happy crimes and feel that portraying crimes in a dark manner would be an interesting path to explore!
In all seriousness, I would love to see that channel also and support the idea!!
@@motojunkie8348 I agree! Other people should be allowed to commit crimes also!!
Worked on her electronics and navigations systems quite a few times in Newport News over the years. A big ship. Took for ever and millions to complete the upgrades once the US took her over. Harry Martin was a similar case but smaller than the Wheat.
no wonder the US is in debt
Ppp
@@michaelfraser5723 show me a country that isn't in debt, please.
@@skullknight2008 Hong Kong
Bender Shipbuilding is an American legend. I grew up fishing with a family who owned the smallest vessel Bender ever built, a 68 foot fishing trawler. She made her owner into a millionaire.
Saw this ship last Spring, parked in the James River, it's a pretty big ship. It certainly stands out.
I worked on her back in early 2000's in What was Northshipco. The other thing I was told by those involved in her conversion and update was she had Ice breaking capability. Not sure if true or not. But she for sure had some very heavy structural steel. And if that is true. I'm very surprised that their going to break her up.
For future reference, lcpl stands for Lance Corporal. Lcpl Wheat posthumously received the medal of honor in Vietnam.
I’m absolutely dumbfounded he actually voiced each letter.
@@cruisinguy6024 Its a thing now ,like sounding out the letters in MIG , EG: MIG 21 .
As a USN Veteran....I have Never heard of this vessel. Although we have such RO-RO ships (Roll-on/Roll-off) ships, this ship Looked like SHUGHART-class RO-RO vessel. Which had a flight deck, a stern ramp and a few cranes that can carry 110-ton cargos.
Oh, by-the-way...... I Just 'Sub'!!
I see you are out of the hole. LOL
GMG2
LST 1189
BB 63
Golden Shellback
1981 - 1989
Edit: What do you think of the unrep scenes? It looks to me the ships are going way faster than normal during the unrep.
this is rapidly becoming my favorite youtube channel. Keep up the great work!
I still remember in 2015 when he was just Dark5 and only had text on screen. His soundtracks were dope. Happy to see our boy grow up :')
“The USSR was successful in appearing more powerful than they were…”
Looks like Russia is keeping up the tradition.
I have a feeling that that is partly to our military industrial complex, the stronger Russia looks, the more they can sell.
I sure hope that’s the case with China. Tho they seem to have a hand in western algorithms.
Если нет разницы, зачем платить больше? :)
You missed the biggest part of this ship!
It was a gas turbine powered ship like most of our combat surface non Nuc ships But it used the waste heat
From the turbines to make Steam and run the steam through the steam turbines to give more power for the same fuel.
Gas turbines engines are not very efficient compared to the Diesels most merchant ships use.
I think they wanted to see if the steam Bottoming waste heat cycle could be used in combat ships to lowered fuel consumption 20-25 %.
There was a precedent for this, as before the Navy switched to the LM-2500 GE gas turbine as the standard combat ship engine they had a US merchant ship made with a gas turbine engine.
GTS Admiral W.M. Callaghan Was the ship.
I resurrected the Callaghans radio and navigation electronics for the first Gulf war when she was being activated in Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Co. She had been towed out of the scrapyard to NNSDD. Never forgot the massive pile of parts that were the heavy lift derricks under the garage. No one knew how it went together and it took a lot of effort to get them assembled. On sea trials doing speed test the navy guy in charge pulled the engine controls, Bridge control, from full ahead to full astern with the result of two huge bangs and losing both engines. We rolled around off Cape Henry quite a while sorting that mess out. He had been warned by the port engineer not to do it. Another test was full astern doing 12kts when he went hard over port rudder. We expected either the rudders to snap or her to roll over but to her credit she went round in a perfectly upright circle. She wasn’t very successful as on her first load to the Med she hit a reef and tore a hole in her bottom and spent a long time in, I think it was Greece, being repaired. Interesting time.
Thank you that's quite the story
Interesting about the gas turbine engines I had no idea
This is a way land based powerplants work in some cases. Unbound by size and weight, a dual cycle natural gas powerplant can be really efficient
This wasn't groundbreaking experimental engineering. Combined cycle and waste heat systems have been around for a very long time. The fact is, most combat ships that depend on gas turbines really don't have the room for a larger waste heat boiler capable of creating superheated and high pressure steam. Plenty of room on a 800+ foot cargo ship, not so much on a destroyer or frigate.
Okay...USNS Wheat carried Marine Corps preposition equipment. She could not refuel other ships, or detect missiles and submarines. You are confusing multiple ships with the Wheat.
The Wheat looks big. But when you consider displacement, length, beam and draft the Wheat is still smaller than an Iowa class battleship.
About the same size as my drill ship! 👍
LCPL Roy M. Wheat did not throw himself on a mine, which would be stupid and asinine. It was probably a grenade, which was indeed, a heroic act.
As a retired Electrical Systems Officer in the British Merchant Navy I found this video very interesting. I was wondering is there any further information available on this vessel as it has been decommissioned? Best regards Gordon Carass.
Gordon. I was an R//O and REO in the British merchant navy for 15 years then a field engineer in Norfolk Virginia for 30 years.
Spent a lot of time on USNS ships and MARAD vessels. A lot of them were ex commercial from foreign flag fleets or end of life American vessels. They were always a challenge but interesting. To sure where the Wheat is now. Would think she may have been too big to go up into the Ready Reserve Fleet on the James river in Virginia. Military Sealift Command, MSC, also bought three RFA vessels. Stromness, Tarbetness and Lyness. Worked on the Stromness and Lyness which were renamed Saturn and Sirius. The other one went to the west coast as Spica. As I sailed with the RFA on first going to sea I enjoyed working on the Saturn and Sirius, mostly S G Brown steering systems and gyros. Regards Bill
Isn't the navy horribly lacking in Sealift ships? I seem to remember a committee speaking of the bad stance of sealift command or that they need ships as many are commercial leases at the moment. I could be wrong, correct me if I am.
The Wheat is currently laid up in the James River Reserve Fleet.
This Ship wasn’t just Overhauled it was Pimped out.
A fascinating ship!
"USNS 'El Cee Pee El' Roy M. Wheat"
Would that be Lance Corporal??
One of the most informational UA-cam episodes that I have ever watched. This is about a topic that I did not know existed. It makes absolute sense that what exists for support. At least we got something for money that we spent over there in Russia and Ukraine. Other than bunch of third-rate nuclear material. But even that we kept the black market. Then obama-clinton strike a deal to sell the Russians some of our premiere nuclear material. But at least we got no Russian ship that we completely gutted being rebuilt. But Russia still gets credit for building this ship. So this was an interesting episode thank you
Great video. Thanks
LCPL is the abbreviation for Lance Corporal, and is pronounced as such.
Do you not think it would be in the interest of the Military Industrial Complex's interest to portray the USSR as a worthy, if not more powerful adversary? If you don't have a Boogie Man, then what's the point of building all these weapons.
wow throwing yourself on a mine!!
instead of just avoiding it and telling ppl..?
thats really taking one for the team
This is definitely a great creator.a honest look at history.
I was stationed at Blount Island Florida when the Wheat was commissioned.
They probably could have built a NEW ship for half the price!
Which would be half the size and a quarter of the carrying capacity 🤌
The USA doesn't match the Soviets in building large heavy lift vehicles (ships, planes, trains and helicopters)
They might not be sophisticated or comfortable but Soviet heavy lift capabilities are STILL lightyears ahead of what the USA can build
Wonderful video and I am first to comment. Well done to all involved.
I have to ask Why? what made this ship worth investing in, instead of just buy and cruising around in. What where the positives that made the navy thing it was worth the money?
maybe the radar is to massive to put on a warships without comprimising other stuff.
You might consider the possibility that the US government wastes massive amounts of money, and that this ship was just one more on a very long list of boondoggles.
@@freesk8 The ship was pretty much free. The video mentioned the price as "Symbolic". They were using the radar to detect global missiles. Meaning they were used to uphold missile treatys in a non threatning way, while also gathering intel on adversaries capabilities like range, or where missile came from etc.
It probably provided a lot of information on how the Soviet Navy and maritime worked. Well worth the money.
@StarFallen it was because at the time it had a gas motor and also a motor that recycled the engine heat into steam to give it more power using less fuel. The navy wanted to see if they could integrate that technology in our gas powered battle ships to save on fuel
She is NOT the "L C P L" Roy M. Wheat, she is Lance Corporal Roy M. Wheat.
@Dark Seas, Look at these two words and how their pronunciation differs: dominance/dominion. 0:48
If it bothers you enough to complain, maybe just unsubscribe and move on.
Personally, I love the narrator's voice, dialect and lisp. It makes him unmistakable. I think he's a very educated and wise person.
Another interesting story! Thank you.
Captain Smirnoff, wasn't he the one that crashed the tanker in Valdez Alaska?
Took me a moment but I get it.
Very interesting video! I wonder what LCPL Wheat's family thought when they realized it was originally a Soviet built ship. 🤔
They should be proud.......the USA hasn't got a good reputation for building robust and large cargo ships (or heavy lift helicopters)
Another fine vid from the 🐐
Now THAT was good!
The ship was a pride of a russian fleet with a double civil-military capability. High speed turbine driven.
Some MSC ships had radars capable of detecting remote missile launches, but this ship did not.
Only radars I saw on her and worked on until 2019 were three Furuno FAR2827X and FAR2837S commercial radars. One X band on the foremast and one X band and one S band on the main mast aft.
Wasn't it cheaper for them to build a new ship than to rework an old Soviet ship?
I was thinking the same; refit something w poor technology, maybe that is why it only served 19 years
May be US bought this out of goodwill.
@@divinewind6313 But again, investing so much time and money in that ship for the sake of "goodwill" is really not economical, especially since it was happening at the time of cutting costs for the military, since there was no longer the Warsaw Pact as an enemy
It's all about the fact that the USA is lightyears behind even Soviet heavy lift capabilities
It might not be sophisticated or comfortable to use but Soviet stuff is big, robust, easily maintained, repaired and can be relied upon
@@richardcostello360 But without the ˝Liberty˝ cargo ships, Russians would speak German today
So that's why I'm surprised that they took a bunch of rusted Russian steel to rebuild it and at the same time the US Navy was building the Nimitz class of aircraft carriers which was 50 years ahead of anything else sailing at the time
Why couldn't they have built a class of such robust ships that would probably still sail today, unlike this Russian ship
Stop fighting already. I'm getting the shakes, now that I'm running low on Russian Vodka.
6 years to reteofit for 20 year service life seems pretty crazy!
I like M R story idea
$150M refit/upgrade and we only got 20 years service out of it!!!! And that doesn't include whatever was paid upfront for the ship , crew and operational expenses.
Seems to have had a short service life after so much was spent on her. Would it have been cheaper just to build a new ship?
Drach: you surely must've known all about this already.
Awesome video
USNS Hiddensee was built in the USSR, too.
"It became apparent that The USSR was often successful in appearing to be more powerful than they actually were" ⬅️ most accurate words ever spoken, ~73 years ago 👏 😂 🇺🇸
Who’s the captain? Juan Cabrillo?
LCPL......a rank in the US Marine Corps. Lance Corporal!!!!!
Good talk about the history of the the ship but the functionality and RADAR capabilities are way off.
Cool man cool
Please do a video about Laffey (Benson class destroyer DD-459)
There are tons more detailed videos in long form
By historians about the amazing and fascinating exploits of Laffey. As brave and crazy as the Piorun.
Let's see we spent 6 years and millions of dollars to extend the ship and basically rebuild it from a keel up and yet you still give the Soviet Union credit for building it and while they have created it but they didn't Rebuild it into a Useful Ship!!! 🤠👍
Is it for sale... were on the lookout for a new ship to do our Australia to Colombia run
What about the Hiddensee. Wasn’t she a Soviet ship that was operated by the US Navy
Learn something every day
Really had to pad this one eh i feel like i watched the video 5 times
Very interesting...
The ships name is a mouth full lol
That was a really interesting story. Have a Magical Day.
The most interesting video on this channel.
Run by PepsiCo
"Semper-Fi"
It was my understanding that Russia produced better steel back in WW II times, and we are beholding to them for their help in that respect later with the war with Japan, wonder why and if that is still the case today? I imagine secrecy would be involved making it difficult to find out, but enjoy your vids and think that would be a neat topic if you could discover anything...
LCPL = Lance Corporal
I thought all of our Ships used for resupply and transport were run by the Merchant Marine, am I wrong on that, anyone know for sure?
When working as a prepositioning ship, she was what they called an “e-ship” or enhancement ship. While the other ships of each Maritime Prepositioning Squadron carried a brigade worth of USMC gear, the E-ship, like you mentioned carried supporting gear like the field hospital, airfield equipment and Seabee gear.
This video has NO VIDEO!
It’s just been scrapped. An interesting vessel.
So the USA basically bought a 'brand new state of the art supply ship' and promptly realized it was a POS. Did they buy this thing off Craig's List?
What is that on the back of the ship.
Ramp
Does anyone know what all those "mushrooms" on the deck edges are ??
They are covers for the ventilation fans for the cargo decks. Because she loaded running vehicles, they needed a lot of ventilation to get rid of all of the exhaust gases.
Now it would be a good time to convert it back to 50hz electrical like rest of the world.
"El See Pee El" Roy Wheat? Seriously?!?
How weird is that!
The only odd thing to me is that the paint scheme for naval ships with the prefix USNS is typically haze gray rather than black and white like a merchant ship. Or in other words, most MSC chartered vessels with this paint scheme are privately owned and merely chartered, employing totally civilian crews as opposed to the blend of federal civil service civilian mariners working alongside a limited number of regular navy sailors, typically in the supply department with the deck, engine and steward’s departments being merchant marine.
US government owned vessels that are either crewed by CIVMARS (civilian mariners employed by MSC) or contracted crews are painted gray with a gray funnel topped with a blue and yellow bands. Vessels owned by private companies and time chartered to MSC are white over black with a black funnel with the same bands at the top.
@@stephenbritton9297 Okay, thanks. I’ve worked on both types of ships as an AB. I preferred working on ships owned by private companies. For one thing, you get about four times as much vacation per year. But the USNS Concord was unionized by the now defunct NMU so the overtime rate was substantially better than what we got on SIU subsidiary SMU crewed pre-positioning ships but the M/V Advantage was my favorite vessel because we loitered in the western Mediterranean all of the time except when we went to Rota to tie up at the pier at the Spanish navy base there. Everywhere else we anchored out with launch service to save on fuel every weekend visiting Gibraltar, Malaga, Cartagena, Palma de Majorca, Barcelona, Nice, Toulon, Ville Franche, Naples, and Livorno. Hard to take all of that shore leave hauling a portable Air Force base and 10,000 tons of bombs. I would even rent hotel rooms sometimes we got so much liberty.
8:03
random discord ping? scared me lol
That is cool.
Nothing secret about it...no missile or aircraft radars aboard her.
Toilets on Russian ships? That's what the ocean is for!
The Maritime SELF (sic) Command?
I’d have liked to seen the helipad in action.
Russia still has a lot of shortcomings, starting with Putin. But they still have nukes. And their warped sense of manhood and honor (ego) may 'force' them to use them. Or at least Putin might yet try.
Sounds like the USS Liberty.
It’s “Lance Corporal” not “ell see pee ell”
Might as well of built a new ship.
$150 Million just to decommission it
Capitan Smirnoff!
In Soviet Russia vodka floats you, comrade
At what point would it have just been easier and cheaper to have it made here?
😂 how to say "I had no idea that trade unions would make this half the size and a quarter of the capability for 5 times the price" without saying that 😂
@@richardcostello360 No smart ass I actually understand that and that is the point you clown. Sorry it was well over your head I see...
LCpl = Lance Corporal
That was a big flex on the Russian navy. LOL.
Surprised she only served 19 years! Seems a bit of a waste.
Russia always played the big bluff card, still do.
Wow ya dont even realize the basic things in converting a ship like the Hertz in the AC power lines for anything motorized or clocks or other devices like computer power supplies
Computers power supplies couldn’t care less about the frequency they are fed - their first step is to convert AC to DC and then up convert it to 20kHz for the internal voltage regulators. Any frequency between 40Hz and 400Hz will work just fine.
Anything with an AC motor is more problematic as the motor speed is very sensitive. If the speed isn’t critical most 50Hz motors will work on 60Hz but 60Hz motors won’t work on 50Hz (because they draw more power and overheat).
There's a reason the international standards are 50 MHz....... only in America would you change shit to be different for no other reason than to be different
That's a lot of money just to be torn for scrap
You mean to tell me that the United States government couldn't buy the same type of ship from an American manufacturer? Something is terribly wrong with the U.S. government!
You know that if this was made in the USA (only one company could make something in this class of ship)
You'd have had half the size and a quarter of the capability for 5 times the price because of how destructive your trade unions are and the general lack of skilled technicians to actually build these sorts of ships😂
Hell the only "friendly country" that would even attempt to build this would be South Korea
@Richard Costello Then Richard if what you say is true. The next aircraft carrier will not be made in the united states but a foreign country or any other u s naval vessel RIGHT !
I worked on the refit this vessel.
What a POS.
Don't know how much tax money that guv dumped into it, but it was a lot, and for what?
Ed you cation Al .
U.S.N.S. Chauvnet T-AGS 29
Oceanographic Unit - 4
(decommissioned)