THE VINTAGE FLORSHEIM IMPERIAL: AN AMERICAN CLASSIC

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  • @TheNunakun
    @TheNunakun 5 років тому +12

    Your channel has the best balance: brilliant showcase, clear direction, brief history, succinctly informative, with a nice touch of "ASMR" polishing pleasure. Please keep up the fabulous work! I'm sticking around for the long haul.

  • @DemetriosLevi
    @DemetriosLevi 5 років тому +32

    Your channel is a mix of helpful tutorials and relaxation...I love it

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому +1

      Thank you, stay tuned for more.

    • @terricornwell9196
      @terricornwell9196 4 роки тому

      Why don't you turn them over to see the bottoms??? Who cares what it looks like on your foot.

  • @ecurb10
    @ecurb10 3 роки тому +1

    Preston your videos are so calming and relaxing.
    There's nothing like sitting down to one of them after a hard day at work. Thank you.

  • @keithwilson6060
    @keithwilson6060 Рік тому +1

    I even picked up a black sharkskin pair of Kenmoors several years ago. Very rare so I felt fortunate to find them in my size.

  • @joec4334
    @joec4334 4 роки тому +1

    I just love the classics thank you for bringing them back as a child growing up in Brooklyn New York we were very fortunate to have a Florsheim shoe store, in our neighborhood.

  • @CrispyFrenFry
    @CrispyFrenFry 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for introducing me to this amazing line of vintage shoes. Since I first watched this when you first uploaded it, I have procured two pairs of Cordovans at $200 each and couldn't be happier. Although one is likely to begin cracking. Just this week I secured a brown pair of these LWB for $100 that is in nearly pristine condition. I'm excited to get this pair delivered so I can use it more frequently for walking. I'd use my Cordovan LWBs but don't want to wear them out as they're my only shoes with this material.

  • @ajg52100
    @ajg52100 5 років тому +10

    I once found a pair of NOS 1960s Shell Cordovan Hanover longwings at the thrift store for $14. I sold them on ebay and I've regretted it ever since.

    • @ajg52100
      @ajg52100 5 років тому +4

      @nikola zazzoslki Well i dont feel too bad then. I sold them for $450

    • @1911Zoey
      @1911Zoey 21 день тому

      ​@@ajg52100 lol 🤣

  • @seanbryant2848
    @seanbryant2848 4 роки тому +1

    I have a small collection of these classics, and I love them.

  • @brianadams8165
    @brianadams8165 5 років тому

    I agree I not only love the educational part of your tutorial but there very comfortable and relaxing. I really enjoy how much you enjoy what your doing as far as bringing the leather back to life and make the most tiring worn shoes look very elegant, Thank you.

  • @sowdiem6047
    @sowdiem6047 3 роки тому +1

    I bought a pair of wingtip oxford Burgundy on ebay. They are in great shape , however they do have a rubber heel block that is very shiny from age. Definitely someone's church shoes.

  • @r.m4102
    @r.m4102 5 років тому +1

    Wow those dress shoes are amazing what an elegant look I have some nice ones but nothing close to what those look..... I'm jealous!

  • @jacksfavorite4808
    @jacksfavorite4808 8 місяців тому

    At 1:30, the video goes into the shining of the shoes. I found it strangely relaxing, almost nostalgic. It reminded me of my father, circa 1965, shining his shoes Saturday evening, preparing them for church the next morning. Watching the video, I could almost smell my father's shoe wax.

  • @weluvjstar
    @weluvjstar 5 років тому +3

    I love the old design going back to the simple days

  • @Douden996
    @Douden996 Рік тому

    Those Golden Harvest Gunboats are Beautiful. I remember back in the day when Men dressed for work, saw a few that had those, and lasted after them.

  • @ronblack2700
    @ronblack2700 5 років тому +2

    Please stay on as long as you can, and never change your format.
    That briefcase that you refurbished!!! Im still thinking about that.

  • @errolmacdonald3256
    @errolmacdonald3256 3 роки тому

    That is a gorgeous collection of ol'time Kenmoors.

  • @saiyajedi
    @saiyajedi 4 роки тому +3

    I have a pair of Allen Edmonds in the same style. Would love to have had a pair of these though.

  • @bernardopena9665
    @bernardopena9665 5 років тому +3

    Great video and great information I just started watching all your videos after recently discovering a passion for good quality shoes, I just bought a pair of vintage imperials long wing 93602 in brown from Ebay and the shoes were in great original condition for way under a hundred dollars after a shine I wore them last weekend to a family gathering and several people complemented me on them, keep up the good work!

  • @arthurc1971
    @arthurc1971 5 років тому +31

    My Grandfather wore these shoes. He was from the generation of well dressed men.

  • @joaquin-jacknava2696
    @joaquin-jacknava2696 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for sharing great video.

  • @aerial_camera_video_imaging
    @aerial_camera_video_imaging 4 роки тому

    Love this style, calf skin and leather. Super.

  • @Psydrre
    @Psydrre 5 років тому +1

    I so glad I found (and subscribed to!) this channel. Really, thank you for making and sharing this, it is much appreciated.

  • @CobblerBob
    @CobblerBob 5 років тому +4

    Best cover shot ever!

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому +1

      Isn’t it? Absolutely phenomenal. Luckily the owner let me borrow the picture

    • @Mario22149
      @Mario22149 4 роки тому +1

      Robert Powers... A king among men!!

  • @gp19
    @gp19 4 роки тому

    Just ordered a pair of dark brown a few days ago from Ebay. It even came with Florsheim's version of the Dainite sole, Big plus. Just replaced the old laces with red ones and boom. Awesome shoes.

  • @bmustang2777
    @bmustang2777 3 роки тому

    Went to John Simons The Ivy. Shop. In 1968. Bought Wingtips. Gibbsons and plaintops . The Best shoes. Ever . P s. The Ivy Shop. Richmond Hill

  • @joseramonavilaperez8303
    @joseramonavilaperez8303 3 роки тому +1

    Chulada de zapatos...

  • @itzmrfizz
    @itzmrfizz 4 місяці тому

    WILD, I have been watching your videos now for about a month. I started the Police Academy and needed to know how to mirror shine my boots. Great tutorials. BUT THIS VIDEO...I own a pair of these Florsheim shoes. I bought them for like $12 when I lived in New Mexico for my church Mission. They are not in the greatest condition...like at all. They could really be a cool restoration video, but I was able to achieve a passable mirror shine with your help on them. Ill have to share a before and after photo on your Insta DM. I am interested to see your reaction for someone who only has been mirror shining for a month-ish. Haha.

  • @technolotree5690
    @technolotree5690 5 років тому +1

    That site V-CLeat also has links to a lot of current ebay listing of these. I was watching pair of brown pebbled ones in fairly good condition for a little over $300, but I never pulled the trigger.

  • @scoon2117
    @scoon2117 8 місяців тому

    I discovered Florsheim in Infinite Jest by DFW, the chapter about Tiny Ewell page 85 lol

  • @fabrisoto
    @fabrisoto 2 роки тому

    Nice.
    👏🏽🌹👏🏽🌹👏🏽🌹

  • @wornoutshoes81
    @wornoutshoes81 3 роки тому

    Beautiful

  • @___1980.
    @___1980. 5 років тому +3

    Your right this and these are the finest and most durable shoes made by our great USA, sadly now you can only find them made in China and India. Nothing beats the 90’s, even Johnston and Murphy for the most part is made in India. Your right eBay is the best place to find these gems. Purchase them there and then put Vibram on the sole to never ever see them diminish 🤝

  • @eliasibarra847
    @eliasibarra847 2 роки тому

    Muchas gracias por toda la información que brindas en el canal.

  • @dressshoeguy
    @dressshoeguy 5 років тому +1

    Great video I always loved the Florsheim Imperial wingtips and have a few pairs of those. Your right in saying the overseas version is not the same as the American classics are really durable and great looking shoes.

  • @jeffu3724
    @jeffu3724 4 роки тому

    My Grandpa had the same. We grew up in the Detroit area. Always remembered his brown wings. Until recently, thought they looked 'old man' style. Well, then the light came on.

  • @fossil-bit8439
    @fossil-bit8439 2 роки тому

    I find these all the time at thrift stores! I just never find them in my size… but I enjoy buying them anyways. Clean them up good and pop them on eBay for a good profit.

  • @jamesrogers47
    @jamesrogers47 2 роки тому

    While in college back in the early eighties, I sold shoes. I loved selling these because they were nearly $200 a pair and at ten percent commission...

  • @sjoerd73
    @sjoerd73 5 років тому +1

    Very nice, a tan longwing is still missing in my wardrobe.

    • @sjoerd73
      @sjoerd73 5 років тому

      But you don't call them gunboats?! Thought that was very American. 😃

  • @justintubens5340
    @justintubens5340 2 роки тому

    Just wanted to remind people to go at least a half size down if this is your first pair of dress shoes. Also, these shoes can be stretched quite a but by a cobbler if you have a wide foot.

  • @BestPaulever
    @BestPaulever 5 років тому +1

    If you got them for $100 in this condition, that's totally an unbeatable find! I always have my eye on 7.5D-8D but never found the same condition as yours :(
    I really enjoy watching your videos, keep up the great work!

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому

      I didn’t get these for $100. These are brand new. A new pair of old stock vintage Imperials will run $200-300 but even then, that’s a steal. You can find gently worn pairs for $100

  • @alexadomeit2506
    @alexadomeit2506 5 років тому

    Fantastic material as always Preston! You da man

  • @nokisimamora
    @nokisimamora 4 роки тому

    Such a pleasing to watch this video as i wear same shoe at this video

  • @DogHumpsMonkey
    @DogHumpsMonkey 4 роки тому

    I got a pair of these in shell Cordovan at the thrift store yesterday for $12. They are in remarkably good condition, especially since according to the info on V Cleat they were made in 1962. The soles show they were well worn, but the uppers are immaculate. They still had the shoe trees in them. I also got a brand new pair of John Fluevog suede boots for $9.99. Not so much as a scuff on the soles. It was a good day for a size 12 at the Thrifty Shopper!

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  4 роки тому

      That’s so awesome! Perfect find!

    • @DogHumpsMonkey
      @DogHumpsMonkey 4 роки тому

      The Elegant Oxford Honestly, I never thought of looking for shoes in thrift stores until I stumbled onto your channel, so thanks for that. I’m a guy that likes nice stuff and appreciates quality workmanship, but I’m not wealthy by any metric, so I definitely appreciate your info, both in that you can find quality stuff on a budget, and how to fix it up if it’s not in tip-top shape. Thanks!

  • @jimmyramirez8844
    @jimmyramirez8844 5 років тому +1

    Nice video

  • @wayneonpark
    @wayneonpark 5 років тому +2

    Terrific video! I also love the old Florsheim's. I own a pair of vintage 1980's black Imperials that are mint and bullet proof, along with a couple of pairs of today's Florsheim Kenmoor Imperials. It's easy to see the great quality in the older shoe that is absent in the newer versions. Even though the new Imperials will still cost over $200.00 to buy they can have a tendency to look, in my opinion, a bit cheap and plastic-y sometimes. Also, I feel that the weight of the older Imperials are much more substantial. I have many, many shoes. Sadly, I don't even remember when I wore my older Imperials last. And one of my newer Kenmoor's I haven't yet taken them out of their shoe-box. But, after seeing your video and the way you paired your Imperials with different denim, chinos and socks; I will definitely wearing my old Imperials this week! Keep up the great videos! I really enjoy them. By the way, as a side-note, we're you aware that the penny-loafers that Michael Jackson always wore in his videos and on stage were Florsheim's. I always thought that was extraordinary. Anyway, just FYI. Thanks again!

  • @elibroadscrappyhomes2532
    @elibroadscrappyhomes2532 4 роки тому +2

    “God damn Florsheim shoes”

  • @abrahamruiz1977
    @abrahamruiz1977 4 роки тому

    beautiful shoes

  • @dlysele
    @dlysele 4 роки тому

    Got like 30 pairs of Florsheim shoes in the family, they are quite cheap to get while a sales is on. Comfy shoes, but the only complain is that the inside leather sheet under you foot wear and tears out easily, if not soaks up sweat and smells easily. After a year, you would have to throw them away and wear a new pair.

  • @emreekinci8634
    @emreekinci8634 5 років тому

    Perfect shoes

  • @davidbowman271
    @davidbowman271 4 роки тому +1

    I purchased a pair of Florsheim Imperials that state on the inside “assembled in USA”. They are a burgundy color and overall they look brand new from the tops to the soles. I found them at a local Goodwill and paid $7.00 for them (it was Senior Day and the original cost was $10.00). Was this a good find?

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, they were made in the 90’s. Still a good shoe.

    • @Photosbylambert
      @Photosbylambert 2 роки тому

      Today I found a pair of “Florsheim Imperials” at my local Goodwill. They had them listed for $10 and when I saw the “Made in America” on the inside along with the size 10 1/2 (my size,) I had to buy them. I’ve got a couple of different brands of quality shoes and I’m just happy to add Florsheim to the collection. Can’t beat the price for an “American Classic”

  • @GamingDrummer89
    @GamingDrummer89 5 років тому +2

    The materials and craftsmanship of these shoes look top notch, but I've gotta ask, were they only available as wingtips? The reason I ask is that I'm honestly not a wingtip fan, especially when they have the long wing pattern. It's too gaudy in my opinion and I just prefer the more subtle enhancement of a semi or even quarter brogue. Did the vintage Imperial line ever have shoes with brogue patterns other than wingtip (long or regular)?
    That being said, it's just ironic that you can find better quality shoes for cheaper second hand than most inferior dress shoes are for new. Yeah, that's usually because vintage shoes are used and thus aren't presently worth a lot of money most of the time, but still, shopping used for better quality is almost a no-brainer for me!

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому +1

      Classic Imperials came in other styles as well, most notably the plain toe Blucher. Semi brogues and quarter brogues do exist but are extremely rare and valuable. They weren’t as common and are much older than the imperial line.

    • @gregorygreene6033
      @gregorygreene6033 4 роки тому

      P

  • @awilliams713
    @awilliams713 4 роки тому +2

    Gotta know- does saphir pay you to use and talk about them (which is fine if so) or do you just love their products?

    • @custodiaforrest4144
      @custodiaforrest4144 4 роки тому

      pretty sure he just loves them. A lot of dress shoe enthusiast knows saphir and loves it too

  • @rozinant1237
    @rozinant1237 3 місяці тому

    Interesting that you didn’t mention AE “MacNeils” as a contemporary replacement? I have never seen any in person, but in photos they sure look like a quality equivalent that are made in USA.

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  3 місяці тому

      There are definitely some modern long wings but the MacNeil is unfortunately no longer in production either. I’d say the Alden 975/979 is the only real contemporary that was made concurrently with the Imperial and is still around.

    • @rozinant1237
      @rozinant1237 3 місяці тому

      I did not know that “MacNeils” are no longer made! I have not looked around for shoes since pre-pandemic. I have 42 pairs of Kenmoors, in all the colors, including Flame shark, many pairs are NOS. I will be contacting you in the near future to see if you will dye some to navy and olive.

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  3 місяці тому

      @rozinant1237 of course. Email me anytime. Yes unfortunately the MacNeil is gone but hopefully it will be back. I’ll be in Port Washington on the 20th to tour the AE factory. I’ll ask the president what they plan to do with it.

  • @heribertocastro6652
    @heribertocastro6652 3 роки тому

    I haven't bought any used shoes because I'm afraid of buying some laced with fungus. Anyone know how to clean leather shoes to kill any fungus inside? Do you think antifungal shoe sprays will damage the leather?

  • @realtyv1
    @realtyv1 5 років тому

    I have several NOS pairs of black 96624 and brown 97625 LWBs. Do you have any suggestions to modify them with patina or strip and re-dye to add some variety.

  • @christiangilberti9834
    @christiangilberti9834 2 роки тому

    Hi, I've got a question about how vintage Florsheim imperials tend to fit. I wear a 10.5 E UK in shoes by British makers. I wear an 11 E on Alden's Barrie last. Would I take an 11 E or an 11.5 E in the imperials?

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  2 роки тому

      Imperials run true to size. The Barrie last is half a size larger so just go with your normal true to size

  • @Iberian247
    @Iberian247 4 роки тому

    Hello Mr Soto. I have a choice between two nice Imperial Longwings of similar color (#8ish). The shell cordovan is $175 vs the calf at under $75. Is the extra $100 worth the gamble? From one of your other Shell Cordovan videos, I left with the impression that vintage shell is hit or miss in that it may turn out to have a limited life left because of previous poor maintenance. This is not the case with traditional calf leather. What do you think?... FYI, I’m also a Soto (mother’s side/P.R.) ~Cheers.

  • @jasonsusko5642
    @jasonsusko5642 5 років тому +1

    How can you tell if they’re vintage or modern?

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому +2

      Yes, you can tell by a couple of giveaways
      1. The shoes will have a metal V-cleat on the heel of the shoes.
      2. The code on the inside of the shoes can be dated. Vcleat.com can help you date a pair of Florsheim Imperials.

  • @rossbrymer4151
    @rossbrymer4151 5 років тому

    Very nice pairs of Florsheims! The only pair I'm needing is the burgundy shell cordovans. 8.5D By the way, how did Florsheim apply the woodgrain sole finish at the factory?

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому +1

      I have a pair of 8.5D, they are featured in my outer shell cordovan video.
      I’m not sure how but competent cobblers know how to do it. Check out Bedo’s Leather Works. He can completely replicate the look.

    • @22hfang
      @22hfang 5 років тому +1

      @@TheElegantOxford Are they for sale? Yes, I have seen all of Steve's videos. He has done some work for me.

  • @PratikMakadia
    @PratikMakadia 4 роки тому

    Do you use same brush for all color shoes?? Doesn’t it transfer color from colored wax or cream to the next shoe?

  • @YFree
    @YFree 4 роки тому

    100 dollars for a new 93602 NOS? This I gotta see.

  • @wal33dmas81
    @wal33dmas81 5 років тому +2

    Dude those shoes are awesome and are they really only for a $100

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому +2

      You can find them gently used for $100 or a bit more. Unworn vintage pairs will go for $300 but it’s still worth the price for what you’re getting. It’s a great deal.

    • @rhdtv2002
      @rhdtv2002 5 років тому

      There is a guy selling a pair 50.00 ok Offerup right now. Size is 8.5 though..

    • @rhdtv2002
      @rhdtv2002 5 років тому

      offerup.co/CNhVFDR0CZ

    • @rhdtv2002
      @rhdtv2002 5 років тому

      @@TheElegantOxford here is another larger size same price Check out this offer on OfferUp
      Check out this $50 Vintage Florsheim Imperial Brown Leather Wingtip Oxfords 12 Med for $50 on OfferUp offerup.co/fEavf1Z0CZ

  • @olatusijazz8155
    @olatusijazz8155 4 роки тому

    I love shoes and i know much about shoes. (The Royal👑Florsheim Imperial) is the best shoe ever made in America. Moreover British produce the best shoe in the world both in construction and durability.

  • @TheSproutarian
    @TheSproutarian 5 років тому

    Under the top lift of the v cleat florshiems is a black plastic heel. They all have it. Stick your finger nail in and you'll find out. Look carefully and you'll see the smoothness of the plastic compared with the grain of the top lift and sole, the shoe you are holding up also has the plastic heel. It is probably why they used heavy slugs on the top lift, they need to attach to the plastic because glue and a few nails wouldn't have been enough. So the big question is....was replacing that piece of heel with plastic enough cost saving to offset the metal slug being used...probably.
    Ask Steve the cobbler, he'll probably tell ya.

    • @Jbickley00
      @Jbickley00 5 років тому

      TheSproutarian maybe the later years did, but I have a decent collection of 1970s and earlier and they have all leather heels

    • @TheSproutarian
      @TheSproutarian 5 років тому

      @@Jbickley00 were they bought new?
      Steve at Bedos told me some were made with leather heels and others were made with plastic heels.
      I have seen some with leather heels and l wonder if it was the cobbler who replaced the plastic with leather. Most of the pairs l have seen have had plastic heels. All my 5 pairs have plastic heels, and even a 1950's double sole stitched (rare) and inseamed (so triple stitched in all) american spectator has plastic heels.

    • @TheSproutarian
      @TheSproutarian 5 років тому

      @@Jbickley00 the 1940's Florsheim Imperials and before were the real deal. They actually had a proper functioning storm welt unlike the ones built after the 40's. The early ones had an inseaming stitch from the outside running through the storm welt to the feather on the inside (done by hand), and it kept water out, where-as the ones after the 40's were machine welted and only had the hidden insealing stitch from the inside and consequently no proper sealed functioning storm welt (not stitched from outside like a true storm welt). Consequently you see gaps on the pairs made after the 40's between the uppers and the storm welt where water can get in. The welts they used on the imperials after the 40's were purely decorative and not truly functional. The factories use t welts in the same way as an I welt and it is such a shame because it makes a mockery of the true nature of the wonderful t welt.

    • @Jbickley00
      @Jbickley00 5 років тому

      Well I can’t argue one way or another about welts. I can say with some certainty that both my Florsheim shell Cordovans and my golden harvests have original soles and heels. I have 3 pair that were definitely resoled, and two pair that are probably original given they have all the nail work still in place. Even backbin that time redoing the nail work in the heels would have been expensive - maybe not $900 like before charges.
      In any case I went back and looked and mine def don’t have plastic in the heels.
      I don’t have any experience with post 1970s Florsheims other than a pair I got in the 1980’s which weren’t Imperials.

    • @Jbickley00
      @Jbickley00 5 років тому

      TheSproutarian in fairness I didn’t determine if the heels had fiberboard or some composite leather, I just noticed they weren’t plastic. It appears there were a number of different constructions. I recall David from v-cleat tearing apart a pair and mentioning this.

  • @jonwalker2929
    @jonwalker2929 5 років тому

    @theelegantoxford - Black Rock over Saphir Renovateur? I also notice you use the Saphir Leather Lotion in a lot of your videos. Does the Black Rock have waxes in it? Great work btw.

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому +1

      Blackrock nourishes really well. It’s not the best for shining but I found it really penetrates dry leather really well. I use it when a shoe really needs moisture.
      Renovator does a much better job at offering a good shine as well even though it nourishes really well too.
      Renovator is double the price so it may not be an option for everyone.

    • @w.jackson1171
      @w.jackson1171 4 роки тому

      Does Black Rock provide more moisture than Saphir Renovateur?

  • @ShowMeInHD
    @ShowMeInHD 4 роки тому

    Its funny that you can now find a better pair of used shoes at a thrift store than you will at a high end retailer!

  • @fermindiaz2459
    @fermindiaz2459 Рік тому

    Son retaurado ???

  • @humbertoherrera1628
    @humbertoherrera1628 2 роки тому

    Buenas noches se deberia traducir castellano pido de ser posible para los proximos comentarios desde panama un saludo a todos

  • @Pshpshpshpshpshpshpsh
    @Pshpshpshpshpshpshpsh 4 роки тому

    Can you give these a mirror shine? I tried it on mine and it was not working

  • @alonzocalvillo6702
    @alonzocalvillo6702 5 років тому +3

    Now we have crap shoes made in China.

    • @TheElegantOxford
      @TheElegantOxford  5 років тому +1

      Yes, unfortunately many companies no longer make quality shoes.
      Fortunately, Allen Edmonds and Alden still make quality shoes. The Alden longwing in shell cordovan is legendary.