I very much enjoy your videos - your commentary and your honesty. I too want FSD to succeed; it really is amazing! But I don’t like the sugarcoating I sometimes see in other FSD videos. Please continue to tell it like it is. Thank you for all the time and effort you put in!
@@kafiluz4317 Perhaps. I bought a new Model 3 last month and have subscribed to FSD. As I said, it is amazing; but it has a long ways to go. When I see reviewers gloss over issues it irks me. I want FSD to improve, and I don’t think that can be done by ignoring reality.
@@fedderd Ignoring reality includes, not to accept, that the neural approach is less than one year old. There will be improvements. But since FSD 12.4 is not based on FSD 12.3, it' doesn't make sense comparing polished 12.3.6 with unpolished 12.4.1 that only a very few users have right now for certain reasons. Many people like me weren't hyped by hardcoded V11 that was based ond buggy V10 / 9. From now on it's mathematical, not mainly development skill based anymore.
@@kafiluz4317 v11 was supposed to be the long awaited single stack. It may not have been end-to-end neural nets, but I don’t get how v12 suddenly separated the stacks again. This was done on the down low and to this day I am not clear why they separated again. Everyone is giving the merge issue a pass because it’s the separate highway stack. As if it’s obvious why it made that mistake. But as an FSD driver since Oct 2021, this really bothers me, because it’s supposed to be single stack. We waited a long time for that to happen before v11 came out.
I too enjoyed your reporting and editing of your video. Please don't be discouraged by the lack of followers, I now subscribed. And please Tesla advertise!! The merge situation is pretty important. It probably hasn't learned it because it hasn't learned what happens if you don't heed the signs (in other words the computer is ignorant of the negative consequences). Hope your example adds to the inference database.
More notes about merging and other lane change behavior, with 12.3.4 and 12.3.6. 1) I have found it important to have my foot ready to accelerate when merging back into the travel lane after passing a car, in case the car starts merging back too close to the passed vehicle. This usually happens when there is a vehicle close behind me in the passing lane. 2) Ego seems to be turning into exit lanes pretty quickly, but often fails to signal (for instance exiting I-459 N, exiting to I-280 in Alabama.) 3) Ego turns several feet later than I would when exiting the highway from a non-exit-only lane to an exit, to the degree that I worry if it is going to turn even though it is signalling. I generally just take over to make a gentler exiting turn. 4) When merging, I don't mess around. At the very least I stay ready to accelerate or brake, and if there is any traffic around, even a lane or two over, I'll take over and merge on my own. 5) There are several places on the interstates where I typically drive which require moving across multiple lanes to reach travel lanes after an interchange. Too often, FSD will merge ok, then just sit in an intermediate lane, even with me turning on the signal to continue over. So once again, I cancel out and move over manually. I remember, maybe from my Drivers Ed class in the early 1970s, that making too many lane changes too close together can lead to a wreckless driving ticket, so maybe FSD is biased to limit the number of lane changes it will make in a short time, but I don't think that can apply in a situation where if you don't make those lane changes quickly enough you can't safely reach the travel lanes on the road you wish to be on.
I may be wrong but the lane that is losing its lane is suppose to yield. Therefore it was Tesla's fault, imo. And my FSD 12.3.6 does too many of random and repeating mistakes for me to use the FSD!
Definitely FSD was in the wrong. Moving over to let people merge is polite but definitely not obligatory and you should never drive assuming that they will. Hopefully they'll add the ability to read signs soon; it shouldn't be massively difficult to do that, especially as those signs were clear and not at all obscured or damaged.
Although it's true FSD handled the merge poorly, and should have merged earlier when it was clear, you can see that the other driver came up along the Tesla, and then slowed down to stay alongside, blocking it from merging.
I drive 'car share'. Many times when I have used FSD (V 12.3.6) on the highway, without the passengers' knowing, they have said they were getting car-sick from the uneven braking and acceleration. Of course, this may be due to the geography of where I drive (many hills and curves), but I can't afford to move to Rio Linda.
I've heard that highway on ramp merges have been improved by changing the point where the car transitions from the city stack to the highway stack. I just got 12.4.3 last night, getting ready to go out for a test drive.
Cool video. If I can suggest a few things. If you do a commentary outside of the ride, just do it while you show fsd driving. It is long enough, not to add additional video material. Putting words like fsd, tesla, betatester, 12.4.1 would improve the number of people watching. And yes, highways stack is old and it will be like that till 12.5 I think. So it is easier to indicate for Tesla to change the lane sooner before merging.
If you are not in camera supervision mode (wearing sunglasses, etc) is the nag wheel still satisfied in this version with using the scroll wheel vs. wheel tug?
@techgeektesla please don't be discouraged to post your videos for lack of subscribers, whoever watches your video common sense should tell them to subscribe it immediately as I did a while ago. However we both know that common sense is the most uncommon thing in this world. Please keep doing what you do no matter what as you are adding values to our knowledge thus helping our society. Hope you get rewarded somehow for this at least in a passive way!!!
Thank you! I often reflect on the lack of subscribers & wonder what I could do better or differently. I think it’s best to continue experimenting and posting high quality videos regardless. And I know that I’m not the only one battling channel growth. I just need to continue raising the bar and not over analyze. In fact, I rarely analyze the stats. I just look at the number of subs. And that could be part of my issue. 😂 🤣. But, I have some ideas! 👊👊👊 Will do my best to not beg for subs in future vids, it’s certainly not what I want to be doing. I appreciate your thoughtful comment and your support. 🫶🙏
With respect and appreciation (I’m a subscriber) I think you totally missed that reporting button. It was about 1:25 after the event that you hit report. I bet they looked and don’t know what you meant with that report. If it really only gives 30 sec previous then they wouldn’t be anywhere near seeing the merge incident. But it has been on X so they may see it there. EDIT: I initially said 3 seconds. Fixed now.
Heheh thanks. I’m going to do some experimentation w/ some future videos. There are some other channels that do a lot better than this one with very similar content. It has me a little perplexed, but not to worry, I think I can turn the ship without spoiling things (ie - clickbait titles, too many sponsors, too many ads, etc)
23:30 "Chin up" might be a problem with my bifocals. besides, it sounds/looks uncomfortable. It won't matter much to me, as I expect to be driving mostly "hands on" (well thumb and forefinger on, at least) until FSD reaches full level 3, anyway.
As a “SUPERVISOR”, I occasionally supervise by using my indicator or press the accelerator to avoid those merging issues. Question: if I become incapacitated I know the car will activate flashers and come to a stop but will the car move to the shoulder or stop on the highway? Anybody ever record a test of this situation?
Good content, and I appreciate you showing the flaw. Fsd and you made the mistake. Sure, it would have been courteous for him to move over, but it wasn't an obligation. A fully attentive driver would have seen that coming and either sped up or slowed down to get in the lane. I don't think it's fair to say it was both your mistake.
I wasn't sure about the stalkless concept at first, too. It didn't take long behind the wheel to get used to it. Take one for a drive and see for yourself. If you rest your left thumb between the buttons, on the horizontal bar, you will always find the button when you want it.
by the way, I always look forward to your videos and I do enjoy them very much. I love the commentary. I just think you’re a little too quick to judge.
390 (elgin-ohare) west of 53 makes me crazy, my car is forever trying to go 45 when I use fsd on that road. I have disengaged and left a message many times, and it’s still not right. You know people are trying to run you over if you’re less than 70 up there too.
I think sometimes when Elon says something that others conclude as a lie, they should ask themselves how might he have been speaking the truth to the best of his knowledge at the time of the statement. In this case, I think that you and other critics may not have thought it through but in your defense I have to say that Elon often doesn’t clarify his statements. When you say that his claim of a 5-10 times improvement, what actually might prove him right when you look at what happened to the previous version, 12.3. When it first came out it had lots of improvements needed. By the time it got to 12.3.6 it was much improved over its initial release. In the same way when you compare 12.3.6 to 12.4.1, I don’t think that is a fair comparison because you have not waited for the refinements of 12.4.2, 12.4.3, … maybe 12.4.6 and then pronounce judgement and if it falls short of 5-10x better you can reasonably conclude that Elon’s estimate was wrong but don’t assume it was a lie. I did enjoy your video and appreciate your insights in general!
I don’t know, man. I don’t think you should call Elon or anyone else a liar that easily. We don’t know exactly what he meant and how he’s measuring it. Did he mean critical interventions? Besides, I don’t think he’s ever really lied about anything. He might’ve been optimistic with his timelines but everything he’s ever said came true.
He lied - period. If he said they are having trouble finding spots where interventions occur and it’s 10x better, then EVERY UA-cam video would be showing that. Instead, every UA-cam video shows FSD still drives like shyt. 10.4 is not 10x better in any regard in any way where it matters and the evidence proves it. They need to send out the version he is talking about and not these interim crap releases that show the literal opposite. Bad take man.
@@rickkay9548 from what I hear everyone is saying that is better than the last one so like I said, it depends on how you measure it I guess or what the data said. Some people are having better rides than others maybe depends on where it was measured too.
@@rickkay9548 Uhm... there are already tons of videos with no interventions and a ton of people who say they went down massively. Most UA-camrs also already say that it is getting harder to make interesting videos, because driving around for 2 hours with nothing important happening is boring and not very watchable content.
@@rickkay9548 all I can tell you is that I have 12.3.6 and I’ve been driving 20 miles straight each day without interventions. I just can’t do without it. I absolutely love it.
Speaking of that merde... I mean merge, again... I've noticed that many drivers tend to pace the cars around them, I've even caught myself doing it if I'm not paying attention to the driving. I don't know why, but assume it is some sort of normal human behavior. It doesn't require any malice on the part of the other driver to have boxed you in like that, it may have been intentional, but I think it more likely to have been lack of attention, is all. Having said that, I've known drivers who somehow think it is their duty to prevent cars from merging into their lane, but this one didn't have that vibe, at least not from the video.
I understand looking forward but it doesn't make sense that you got to actually tilt your head almost to an uncomfortable position. Looks like you're actually tilding your head upward. Anyway great video Thanks for sharing! 🇺🇸✌️
If you were to do drives like this again, don't tell your passengers that FSD is driving and than once in a while like crack your nuckles or have a sip of water and wait if they notice it is driving😂
12.4.1 still uses the old stack, not end-to-end neural networks, on the highway. Perhaps this merging issue could be fixed when they get end-to-end running on the highway?
You talk about how Marge is still broken around 12.4.1 that isn't accurate it is fix but when you are on the highway you're still running v11 so that is why it is broken
Sorry I’m playing with you. 😜 I know what you’re saying, but it’s still crazy to me. V11 was the “one stack to rule them all”. It was the long awaited change. Suddenly v12 went backwards with that. I’ll never quite understand it.
@@techgeektesla It went backwards because unlike v11 v12 has no hard coded rules it is just videos of the car doing the right thing that is why you should take over and do the right thing because I believe that when you press the camera button they have to take the time and build from scratch and then drive the car doing the right thing where if you take over than they have something to work with and they can just smooth it out. But I can't confirm this but it make sense to me
There is some evidence that 12.4 has changed where the software transitions from city streets stack to highway stack and merges onto the highway are better.
When it comes to the merging incident I believe the other driver was at fault. Everyone knows you supposed to go over and give the oncoming car the right away. That driver was being a jerk. it would not have mattered if you try to merge early he still wouldn't have went over to let you merge safely
28:13 _is _*_this version_*_ 5 to 10 times better in terms of miles per intervention? No, definitely not_ _I'm very disappointed that Elon lied another lie_ Two issues. First, it's not *this version* (v12.4.1) Elon claimed would be 5X to 10X better in terms of miles per intervention, it's v12.4; so Tesla has v12.4.2, ... , v12.4.6(?) to make good on this prediction. Second, a lie is a *deliberate* misstatement. Unless you know that Elon was aware that this prediction was false when he made it-and I don't see how you could-and even if the final version doesn't achieve the predicted improvement, it's still not a lie; but at worst a prediction that turned out to be incorrect. Please don't be so ready to make accusations you can't support. Thank you!
Really enjoy your presentation. I think u might not want to elon a liar based purely on your experience - other u tubers are having different results that are in line with elons prognostications.
9:33 critical situation.
Highway is still V11 stack.
Thanks for the vid and taking your time to do this is really appreciated!!
I very much enjoy your videos - your commentary and your honesty. I too want FSD to succeed; it really is amazing! But I don’t like the sugarcoating I sometimes see in other FSD videos. Please continue to tell it like it is. Thank you for all the time and effort you put in!
First time in human history a car you can own yourself is capable of doing this. Some sugarcoating is justified imho.
@@kafiluz4317 Perhaps. I bought a new Model 3 last month and have subscribed to FSD. As I said, it is amazing; but it has a long ways to go. When I see reviewers gloss over issues it irks me. I want FSD to improve, and I don’t think that can be done by ignoring reality.
@@fedderd Ignoring reality includes, not to accept, that the neural approach is less than one year old. There will be improvements. But since FSD 12.4 is not based on FSD 12.3, it' doesn't make sense comparing polished 12.3.6 with unpolished 12.4.1 that only a very few users have right now for certain reasons. Many people like me weren't hyped by hardcoded V11 that was based ond buggy V10 / 9. From now on it's mathematical, not mainly development skill based anymore.
@@kafiluz4317 v11 was supposed to be the long awaited single stack. It may not have been end-to-end neural nets, but I don’t get how v12 suddenly separated the stacks again. This was done on the down low and to this day I am not clear why they separated again. Everyone is giving the merge issue a pass because it’s the separate highway stack. As if it’s obvious why it made that mistake. But as an FSD driver since Oct 2021, this really bothers me, because it’s supposed to be single stack. We waited a long time for that to happen before v11 came out.
Great vid. Thanks. How ready are we all for 4.2??? What's the hold up? Perfection?
I too enjoyed your reporting and editing of your video. Please don't be discouraged by the lack of followers, I now subscribed. And please Tesla advertise!! The merge situation is pretty important. It probably hasn't learned it because it hasn't learned what happens if you don't heed the signs (in other words the computer is ignorant of the negative consequences). Hope your example adds to the inference database.
More notes about merging and other lane change behavior, with 12.3.4 and 12.3.6.
1) I have found it important to have my foot ready to accelerate when merging back into the travel lane after passing a car, in case the car starts merging back too close to the passed vehicle. This usually happens when there is a vehicle close behind me in the passing lane.
2) Ego seems to be turning into exit lanes pretty quickly, but often fails to signal (for instance exiting I-459 N, exiting to I-280 in Alabama.)
3) Ego turns several feet later than I would when exiting the highway from a non-exit-only lane to an exit, to the degree that I worry if it is going to turn even though it is signalling. I generally just take over to make a gentler exiting turn.
4) When merging, I don't mess around. At the very least I stay ready to accelerate or brake, and if there is any traffic around, even a lane or two over, I'll take over and merge on my own.
5) There are several places on the interstates where I typically drive which require moving across multiple lanes to reach travel lanes after an interchange. Too often, FSD will merge ok, then just sit in an intermediate lane, even with me turning on the signal to continue over. So once again, I cancel out and move over manually.
I remember, maybe from my Drivers Ed class in the early 1970s, that making too many lane changes too close together can lead to a wreckless driving ticket, so maybe FSD is biased to limit the number of lane changes it will make in a short time, but I don't think that can apply in a situation where if you don't make those lane changes quickly enough you can't safely reach the travel lanes on the road you wish to be on.
I may be wrong but the lane that is losing its lane is suppose to yield. Therefore it was Tesla's fault, imo. And my FSD 12.3.6 does too many of random and repeating mistakes for me to use the FSD!
I really appreciate you taking the time to make these videos for us. I look forward to each one.
Thank you! 🙏 🙇♂️
Definitely FSD was in the wrong. Moving over to let people merge is polite but definitely not obligatory and you should never drive assuming that they will. Hopefully they'll add the ability to read signs soon; it shouldn't be massively difficult to do that, especially as those signs were clear and not at all obscured or damaged.
Although it's true FSD handled the merge poorly, and should have merged earlier when it was clear, you can see that the other driver came up along the Tesla, and then slowed down to stay alongside, blocking it from merging.
@@steveh.8376 Good point. Yeah, that's definitely not good driving.
I drive 'car share'. Many times when I have used FSD (V 12.3.6) on the highway, without the passengers' knowing, they have said they were getting car-sick from the uneven braking and acceleration. Of course, this may be due to the geography of where I drive (many hills and curves), but I can't afford to move to Rio Linda.
I can't subscribe, because I already am!
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I've heard that highway on ramp merges have been improved by changing the point where the car transitions from the city stack to the highway stack. I just got 12.4.3 last night, getting ready to go out for a test drive.
Cool video. If I can suggest a few things. If you do a commentary outside of the ride, just do it while you show fsd driving. It is long enough, not to add additional video material.
Putting words like fsd, tesla, betatester, 12.4.1 would improve the number of people watching.
And yes, highways stack is old and it will be like that till 12.5 I think. So it is easier to indicate for Tesla to change the lane sooner before merging.
Thank you for the feedback
6:52 YEA! I find the current merge behavior annoying; in traffic, I cancel and merge on my own.
Another small step for mankind. Thank You for this video.
If you are not in camera supervision mode (wearing sunglasses, etc) is the nag wheel still satisfied in this version with using the scroll wheel vs. wheel tug?
Great video and good assessments from you. I think such information helps to improve Tesla FSD.
Greetings from Germany
Hi 🇩🇪!
Have you ever considered selling convenience items at the end of the ride? Like a chart on the back of the seat with things like gum or muffins?
@techgeektesla please don't be discouraged to post your videos for lack of subscribers, whoever watches your video common sense should tell them to subscribe it immediately as I did a while ago. However we both know that common sense is the most uncommon thing in this world. Please keep doing what you do no matter what as you are adding values to our knowledge thus helping our society. Hope you get rewarded somehow for this at least in a passive way!!!
Thank you! I often reflect on the lack of subscribers & wonder what I could do better or differently. I think it’s best to continue experimenting and posting high quality videos regardless. And I know that I’m not the only one battling channel growth. I just need to continue raising the bar and not over analyze. In fact, I rarely analyze the stats. I just look at the number of subs. And that could be part of my issue. 😂 🤣. But, I have some ideas! 👊👊👊 Will do my best to not beg for subs in future vids, it’s certainly not what I want to be doing. I appreciate your thoughtful comment and your support. 🫶🙏
With respect and appreciation (I’m a subscriber) I think you totally missed that reporting button. It was about 1:25 after the event that you hit report. I bet they looked and don’t know what you meant with that report. If it really only gives 30 sec previous then they wouldn’t be anywhere near seeing the merge incident. But it has been on X so they may see it there. EDIT: I initially said 3 seconds. Fixed now.
Comment for the algorithm, already subscribed
Heheh thanks. I’m going to do some experimentation w/ some future videos. There are some other channels that do a lot better than this one with very similar content. It has me a little perplexed, but not to worry, I think I can turn the ship without spoiling things (ie - clickbait titles, too many sponsors, too many ads, etc)
23:30 "Chin up" might be a problem with my bifocals. besides, it sounds/looks uncomfortable. It won't matter much to me, as I expect to be driving mostly "hands on" (well thumb and forefinger on, at least) until FSD reaches full level 3, anyway.
As a “SUPERVISOR”, I occasionally supervise by using my indicator or press the accelerator to avoid those merging issues. Question: if I become incapacitated I know the car will activate flashers and come to a stop but will the car move to the shoulder or stop on the highway? Anybody ever record a test of this situation?
Thank you for being a good supervisor. I also use my right foot and turn signals frequently to make my rides smoother.
Wow
Good content, and I appreciate you showing the flaw.
Fsd and you made the mistake. Sure, it would have been courteous for him to move over, but it wasn't an obligation. A fully attentive driver would have seen that coming and either sped up or slowed down to get in the lane. I don't think it's fair to say it was both your mistake.
Tested the refresh 3, lack of turn signal stalks was a major bummer
I wasn't sure about the stalkless concept at first, too. It didn't take long behind the wheel to get used to it. Take one for a drive and see for yourself. If you rest your left thumb between the buttons, on the horizontal bar, you will always find the button when you want it.
by the way, I always look forward to your videos and I do enjoy them very much. I love the commentary. I just think you’re a little too quick to judge.
390 (elgin-ohare) west of 53 makes me crazy, my car is forever trying to go 45 when I use fsd on that road. I have disengaged and left a message many times, and it’s still not right. You know people are trying to run you over if you’re less than 70 up there too.
I think sometimes when Elon says something that others conclude as a lie, they should ask themselves how might he have been speaking the truth to the best of his knowledge at the time of the statement. In this case, I think that you and other critics may not have thought it through but in your defense I have to say that Elon often doesn’t clarify his statements. When you say that his claim of a 5-10 times improvement, what actually might prove him right when you look at what happened to the previous version, 12.3. When it first came out it had lots of improvements needed. By the time it got to 12.3.6 it was much improved over its initial release. In the same way when you compare 12.3.6 to 12.4.1, I don’t think that is a fair comparison because you have not waited for the refinements of 12.4.2, 12.4.3, … maybe 12.4.6 and then pronounce judgement and if it falls short of 5-10x better you can reasonably conclude that Elon’s estimate was wrong but don’t assume it was a lie. I did enjoy your video and appreciate your insights in general!
It is about reading sign better. I remember Elon mentioned about this.
I don’t know, man. I don’t think you should call Elon or anyone else a liar that easily. We don’t know exactly what he meant and how he’s measuring it. Did he mean critical interventions? Besides, I don’t think he’s ever really lied about anything. He might’ve been optimistic with his timelines but everything he’s ever said came true.
Get his balls off your chin dude 😂😂😂
He lied - period. If he said they are having trouble finding spots where interventions occur and it’s 10x better, then EVERY UA-cam video would be showing that. Instead, every UA-cam video shows FSD still drives like shyt. 10.4 is not 10x better in any regard in any way where it matters and the evidence proves it. They need to send out the version he is talking about and not these interim crap releases that show the literal opposite. Bad take man.
@@rickkay9548 from what I hear everyone is saying that is better than the last one so like I said, it depends on how you measure it I guess or what the data said. Some people are having better rides than others maybe depends on where it was measured too.
@@rickkay9548 Uhm... there are already tons of videos with no interventions and a ton of people who say they went down massively. Most UA-camrs also already say that it is getting harder to make interesting videos, because driving around for 2 hours with nothing important happening is boring and not very watchable content.
@@rickkay9548 all I can tell you is that I have 12.3.6 and I’ve been driving 20 miles straight each day without interventions. I just can’t do without it. I absolutely love it.
Speaking of that merde... I mean merge, again... I've noticed that many drivers tend to pace the cars around them, I've even caught myself doing it if I'm not paying attention to the driving. I don't know why, but assume it is some sort of normal human behavior. It doesn't require any malice on the part of the other driver to have boxed you in like that, it may have been intentional, but I think it more likely to have been lack of attention, is all.
Having said that, I've known drivers who somehow think it is their duty to prevent cars from merging into their lane, but this one didn't have that vibe, at least not from the video.
Agreed!!
You didn't take over from FSD, and that's good for the software learning update.
I understand looking forward but it doesn't make sense that you got to actually tilt your head almost to an uncomfortable position. Looks like you're actually tilding your head upward. Anyway great video Thanks for sharing! 🇺🇸✌️
You could have searched the address prior to pickup.
If you were to do drives like this again, don't tell your passengers that FSD is driving and than once in a while like crack your nuckles or have a sip of water and wait if they notice it is driving😂
This would be fun to capture on film! Often I will do exactly that, but the passenger says nothing. 😆
12.4.1 still uses the old stack, not end-to-end neural networks, on the highway. Perhaps this merging issue could be fixed when they get end-to-end running on the highway?
konnichiwa. Douzo yoroshiku. nihongo o benkyou ga suki desu.
How they gonna sextaxi when they can’t even merge?
V12.3.6 always slows to get behind cars or speeding up to merge.
Fsd just doesn’t have the bigger traffic picture, as an attentive driver would
13:06 yes, the merge was merde. hmm.... Could Ego be French?
You talk about how Marge is still broken around 12.4.1 that isn't accurate it is fix but when you are on the highway you're still running v11 so that is why it is broken
How can it be fixed but not fixed?
Sorry I’m playing with you. 😜 I know what you’re saying, but it’s still crazy to me. V11 was the “one stack to rule them all”. It was the long awaited change. Suddenly v12 went backwards with that. I’ll never quite understand it.
@@techgeektesla It went backwards because unlike v11 v12 has no hard coded rules it is just videos of the car doing the right thing that is why you should take over and do the right thing because I believe that when you press the camera button they have to take the time and build from scratch and then drive the car doing the right thing where if you take over than they have something to work with and they can just smooth it out. But I can't confirm this but it make sense to me
@@techgeektesla that is why everyone is waiting for 12.5 we will be back on signal stack
Until 12.5, merging on highway wont be fixed yet
There is some evidence that 12.4 has changed where the software transitions from city streets stack to highway stack and merges onto the highway are better.
Has to be a troll. Who doesn’t know what a Tesla is?
When it comes to the merging incident I believe the other driver was at fault. Everyone knows you supposed to go over and give the oncoming car the right away. That driver was being a jerk. it would not have mattered if you try to merge early he still wouldn't have went over to let you merge safely
Can you please give us an updates?
Hello! 👋 What update are you interested to hear about?
@@techgeektesla We would like to collaborate with you and we are waiting for your reply.
28:13 _is _*_this version_*_ 5 to 10 times better in terms of miles per intervention? No, definitely not_
_I'm very disappointed that Elon lied another lie_
Two issues. First, it's not *this version* (v12.4.1) Elon claimed would be 5X to 10X better in terms of miles per intervention, it's v12.4; so Tesla has v12.4.2, ... , v12.4.6(?) to make good on this prediction.
Second, a lie is a *deliberate* misstatement. Unless you know that Elon was aware that this prediction was false when he made it-and I don't see how you could-and even if the final version doesn't achieve the predicted improvement, it's still not a lie; but at worst a prediction that turned out to be incorrect.
Please don't be so ready to make accusations you can't support. Thank you!
That’s precisely what I was trying to say.
Highway is still v11. This is why I can’t waiting for 12.5 that’s when Elon said it no longer use V11 on the highway.
Really enjoy your presentation. I think u might not want to elon a liar based purely on your experience - other u tubers are having different results that are in line with elons prognostications.
12.4.2 is 5-10 times better, not this.
Calling Elon a liar??? I'm very disappointed in your unprofessional commentary. After several days of contemplation, I've unsubscribed.