Part Three: Beria: Stalin's Pedophile Cop & the Soviet Oppenheimer | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
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Part Three: Beria: Stalin's Pedophile Cop & the Soviet Oppenheimer | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert and Joe get into the meat of the Beria story: the invasion of Poland and start of World War 2.
Original Air Date: April 16, 2024
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Re: the dwarf thing: My ex had a high school classmate who was a hair under 5 feet tall, dude knew the exact medical definition of "little person," which he wasn't, and would throw hands if anybody made fun of his stature. So yeah, I can see how the "homicidal dwarf" in this story earned the nickname.
Dudes seem to get a lot of shit for their height (even when they're average height, or short but not that short). While it can be fun to sometimes rib someone for being short (or bald, etc - in these cases it's either someone you know well and like, or someone you really hate), it seems to become this macho pride thing. As in, this thing that people will use to claim someone is less of a man, or less attractive, and it's just too bad that it can get so intense. Because to most people in most cases, I don't know if your height really matters that much.
Oh yeah the name wouldn't stick unless it bothered him.
Oof, that's a hard spot- get beat up by a little guy, or beat up a little guy? Just run, I guess, I'm guessing he's got stubby legs, can't run fast
Short guys can be attractive. Fun size.😉
It's actually interesting, a lot of people, usually men, find the concept of privilege, be it from class, gender, ethnicity, etc. To be an utterly bullshit concept.
Same guys will absolutely complain to high heaven when a woman says "I prefer tall guys"
As a tall guy, i always love putting dudes in a spot. If there's no such thing as privilege you're born with, surely you're a liar. If yes this is a bit of an unfair advantage, perhaps consider the fact that you're also lucky in some ways.
I eschew the use of the term Incel because it makes the word meaningless
Grown men who give off short man energy, (two very different things) deserve to be bullied on a regular basis. Also it's fun.
Joe, the goth version of theater kids are known as "theater kids."
The reason for using German weapons was twofold - one, Russian small arms tended to hurt your hands after repeated use, and there were a lot of people to murder.
The other issue was deniability- the whole thing was blamed by the Soviets on the Nazis. The Nazis did discover the massacre and told the world about it, which Stalin obviously denied.
It was only officially acknowledged by the Soviets in 1990.
Reminds me of a joke I heard back in the day.
A Pole is asked, "If Poland was invaded again by both Russia and Germany, whom would the Polish army fight first?"
"Russia, obviously."
"Why?"
"Duty before Pleasure"
I heard that joke in reverse. "A German and a Russian invade a Pole home. Who the Pole shots first? The German, because work before pleasure." I guess the spirit is the same: the Polish hate the Russians more.
reminds me of the one where a Pole uses 3 wishes from a genie to have the mongols invade Poland 3 more times because that meant they would fuck up Russia 3 times on the way over and 3 on the way home
Reading that it was all pocket pistols chambered in .25 auto, the RSI thing was absolutely what Blohkin was after. Briefcase full of .25 so that when one breaks, you move on to the next one.
The Beria podcast somehow manages to be less depressing for me than the Kissinger podcast
"I don't think anybody loves a good protocol quite
like the Russian Secret Police at any given era of time."
Underrated joke
I love how even the fucking *Guinness World Records* people (who eagerly award records like 'biggest cake ever baked' or whatever to authoritarian dictators trying to do PR stunts, and who gave noted video game liar Tommy Tellerico a bunch of nothingburger records because he paid for them) looked at records like 'Most Prolific Executioner' and went, "yeah, we better retire this one."
Does this mean we might see Robert on an episode of Well There's Your Problem? It was way fun discovering the connections to Some More News and Michael Swaim, but WTYP too? Hell yeah
Has there been an episode on Dole and the other fruit-companies? The banana-wars would make a good episode, in my opinion.
I think they've done it but I don't know if it's made it to youtube.
32:44 "Lepidopterists" someone clearly watched venture bros... No way Robert learned that word anywhere else
Im glad we talked about ska this episode. It's been too long.
For the secret police, severance packages are measured by how much of you they sever.
I used to steal my friend's water bottles out of his backpack. That was my psychopathic thing.
No shade - but I do notice that whenever we’re covering complete atrocities in Europe - I never hear the phrase’ this was normal for the period’
Damn you, Evans, uploading your podcast right when I'm about to go to bed and now I have to stay up another hour
I got so excited when this appeared in my feed! ... and then I realized I listened to it as a podcast last night. Guess I need to get into Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff or It Could Happen Here.
I'm pretty sure that Herschel Walker is the least favorite Georgian who went on to commit crimes against humanity, or at least crimes against politics.
0:56 I mean I don’t know how Joe spells it but the band Kasabian would probably like a word
Is this dude where the "Black Volga" urban legend came from ????
Man, what did Ska do?
I'm confused why Stalin would let Beria babysit Svetlana, while also warning her to never be alone in a room with him? I don't necessarily doubt that either thing happened, it just seems contradictory.
Maybe it was the number of witnesses kind of thing. Like, being so close to Stalin and his other top men, trying to assault Svetlana would be an instant execution that day. So, he can watch over her as a toady, but you have to have a significant number of other people who can watch and restrain Beria. You still have to warn the girl herself to stay on guard against him because he'll still try whatever subtle pervy attempts he can.
The babysitting was probably something more akin to him being responsible for her security, more like a guardian or having custody when Stalin and his wife weren't available
The difference is him being in an Institutional position of power for her, versus being in a functional position to exploit her
The winter war is a trip because you hear about all these badasses kicking the soviets' asses and think "hell yeah" then you remember they were kind of sort of Nazis, and you feel kind of bad.
Yeah, Finland is a Nazi country slava Z
@@Primarkkabeat feet Ruscist
I mean, they were fighting then because the Soviets were kinda being Nazis in their own way.
If you're looking for a side in WW2 that doesn't fit a conceriningly large amount of Eco's 14 Points, you're probably not gonna find one.
There were guys that stormed Normandy on D-Day that probably would have been fine in the SS or the NKVD or the Black and Tans if they had grown up in those places. The Allies all had various concentration camps and were committing their own genocides.
Have you listened to the episodes about 'How Nice Normal People Helped Make the Holocaust Possible'?
Probably the one that best encapsulates Robert's notion that Fascism isn't some mysterious supernatural thing, but is just sort of a thing that humans do when mildly stressed into the right mindset.
This isn't to justify it, just to understand it.
@@thomaswillard6267 Exactly, its more complicated than simple side A side B
pretty much every nation in the war had some EXTREAMLY objectionable politics, obviously some thosands of orders of magnitude more than others, but if your looking for a pure good guy your not going to find one. you have to look at it more as who did what why.
In this instance, while Finnish politics where, iffy, the reality is the USSR launched an unprompted invasion for the purpose of expanding their borders, which in this context makes them the bad guys, even if you would be correct in stateing the Fins where not angles
La Friendly Birria, maing.
2:50 - dial the "sun of nations" down a notch.
Love from a Xanderhal and Vaush fan!
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