Wow. Randomly clicked and cannot believe how relatable this video is for me. I still have fears around animal products but I am making small steps to include them in my daily life and getting closer to demolishing those beliefs. The beliefs are so loud in my head but definitely not as loud as couple of months or even weeks ago. Super useful video Chardoodle, thank you.
Okay so watching this is really making me realize this is what I´m doing. Not exactly, I´m not vegan for example, but the whole thing with recovering but still following rules, only breaking some and occassionaly, and so on... I think my problem is I wasn´t given any time to process anything and no one was really like hey, let´s talk about how we wanna go about this, what you wanna do, how we can help, etc., I was just yelled at, thrown a meal plan (which I don´t follow at all, cuz that´s just not how I eat) and told if I don´t gain weight I´ll die. Like, I don´t even want to recover, really. I honestly don´t know what to do.
I feel this. Sometimes I blame it on not being taken more seriously honestly or taken seriously in the right ways like I couldn’t keep myself accountable if I wanted to. I’m just glad I came to the realization and am here now. Always here for you💘
I wish more people would drop the labels and just do what feels best for them and their body. That might mean oat milk and tofu one meal and chicken with Mayo for the next meal. I was also raw Vegan for many years and it’s so restrictive and so engulfed in ‘martyr/virtuous’ mentality. Also, I feel like black/white thinking around food is never really helpful as it gets in the way of intuition. Really proud of the progress you’ve made. Thanks for sharing your journey. Can definitely relate !
Thank you so much and I 100% agree. There’s no reason to restrict yourself to a label or rules just eat what you want and your body’s natural cravings will let you know what’s right
i know that's not the main point but the part about living vicariously!! i relate to it so much, i kind of feel like i went from vicariously eating (obsessively watching non-disorded people eat😐) to vicariously recovering through others? like deep down i feel like i don't deserve to do those things myself or they just 'won't work for me' even though they do work for literally everyone else and i know that it doesn't make any sense but it's so hard to overcome? but i do feel a bit more hopeful after watching this video (i did stumble upon it while watching other people do the things that i don't have the courage to do myself...as always.... so that's quite ironic but at least it made me realize that this is an actual problem that i need to work on)
Yes!! I relate to every part of what you just said. It’s been such a long road of not feeling like I could commit to “full recovery” or that I couldn’t do it how others could, but I know my ed was just still holding me back. Always here for you 💜
I can totally relate to you. After watching this video I feel relieved that I am not the only person going through this and feeling this way about my own recovery. I after 9 months of deep and tense hard work with my great caring and loving therapist and after watching this inspiring video, I can say it now at I am in a quasi recovery in my Anorexia Disorder (ED) recovery
Oh wow. Praise God I discovered your channel!!! I’ve watched a few of your videos and have been wanting to watch this one in particular because I feel like this is where I’m at (quasi-recovery). And you literally described all the things and thoughts I’m going through. And also the very wise decisions you’ve made to get OUT of quasi-recovery. I’ve watched many other ED “recovery” channels and any kind of dietary restrictions that aren’t medically related I feel are a form of restriction for those of us in recovery. So what you shared was just so stinking awesome. I am not vegan or vegetarian or gluten free, etc and never will be - there are truly no restrictions I need to put on my diet but I am so incredibly brainwashed by diet culture still. And living in fear. And by so so so many rules……. 😔 I can’t wait to watch more of your videos and see more of your journey. So much love to you. ❤️❤️❤️
I know this is so silly but like today I wanted a bagel and I just worked up the courage to go and eat it and the whole time I was thinking about your videos and your attitude towards food freedom. its so hard but slowly working through those barriers and "no foods"
Thank you. I was vegan (10 yrs) with ED (15+ years) and when I tried cheese the first time last year I cried and such a heavy burden fell off my shoulder. It was a hard decisions to not call myself vegan anymore but I realized it was part of my ED! I could really relate to that feeling you had with the ice cream. I feel like my recovery really started when I ditched the labels and I was also thinking I was recovered from Ed a long time ago but not until a couple of months ago I realized I had just begun! ❤️
I don't know if I am in quasi-recovery or not. My family says I am because I don't want to use oil or high fat dairy products but I just don't know. I eat good and healthy predominately plant based foods (not raw or anything) but the thing you said about not eating "less healthy" foods got me thinking. Also what you said about being okay with eating baked goods at cafés but only in controlled situations or spontaneously if I know I haven't had it for a while. I just feel confused about everything and hear that I should gain weight but don't feel like I actually need it (but see that I do). Can you relate to this and do you have any opinions on this?
I am in quasi recovery now and I don’t know how to let go and get out of it!! I’ve also started obsessively walking. If I don’t walk I feel guilty for eating x,y and z. But I still do eat it all. I restrict all day until 9pm and then I binge on whatever I want. Any tips
i have been i quasi recovery for 1 whole year now but i talked to my dietitian and we've made a mealplan. (which i feel like isnt even nearly a healthy amount so were uppering it every time i go)
I found you on tiktok and came to your UA-cam and this video put into words all my thoughts over the last year. I’m in recovery from bulimia and I thought I “healed” when I went plant based/vegan simply bc I was eating more and not purging. I was vegan for 4 years. Then about a year ago I had some thoughts of why am I doing this ?? Is this another way for me to be maintains control? am I actually still in restriction but with a fancy label (vegan) . I was in quasi recovery !!! You read that definition and my jaw dropped I incorporated tuna a few months ago and have been feeling guilty about it and not wanting other people to know I had been eating meat again. But why? I feel good eating it and nothing bad happened. I love veggies and plant based foods and will continue to eat them because I LIKE them but not because I’m living under a label or rules. Thank you so much for making my thoughts come full circle. this helped me more than you know
I think there are so many of us out here who can relate. I was vegan for 15 years but also had an ED for those years. I also didn’t think i had a problem but was just “really healthy” and i went through recovery 2 years ago now but was still vegan. Just this past December i started to incorporate animal products again and feel like I’m starting recovery again. But I’ve learned a lot about animal products and nutrients. Also the environment can benefit from regenerative ag. And ya, labels suck. They suck you in. Just eat what your body needs. Everyone is so different. I can hardly believe how much I’ve changed since starting to eat animal products. Much more freedom. Social outings. Life. And i can relate to not craving animal foods. And wow suddenly all i want is beef, eggs and dairy! You got this girl!
Also, were you or are you trying to gain or maintain your weight?= Do you have any ideas on how to come to the conclusion whether or not you (I) should commit to it? Don't know because I am scared of what it means to gain weight but also want the positive things you are talking about which come with gaining weight and recovering.
I recommend reaching out to a ed specializing doctor / nurse practitioner / therapist because they can help identify if you’re at a healthy weight / where to go from here. I know it’s scary, terrifying actually, but getting help is the best thing you can do for yourself 🤍
Veganism is not a label, it's a moral stance! A very big difference. When someone says they are vegan, all they mean is that they recognize that Animal also feel pain, emotions and are sentient just like we are. You don't have to label yourself Vegan, you can just protect the animals and not pay into this system that exploits, rapes and murders innocent Animal just because you feel like it. That's not a justification we life in our daily life's if any human would do it like that. You can't love an animal and pay for it to be killed. What kind of love would that be? It is not a personal decision if someone else is the victim. I'm sorry but when i see & hear stuff like this I have to remind you and stand up for those who can't speak. Remember what happens to them. Or would you take anyone else life if it's just too much of a restriction/label/exhaustion for you? You can Recover and be kind and align your word with your action. Otherwise the things you said about loving Animal and being very aware of it... supportive. None of it would be true. Actions speak louder than words, so if you actually stand for kindness, compassion and love then please rethink it and align your words with your actions. If the label is bothering you just say that you protect the innocent and align your morals with your actions and choose to life that way. If all of what I've written doesn't help you then here is what happens with every decision of yours, when you buy any animal body/Product --- [ua-cam.com/video/LQRAfJyEsko/v-deo.html] Maybe this comes off a bit aggressive but that's not my intention here. I do support everyone in their recovery and really hope everyone can go beyond it. Thank you for sharing and being open, otherwise this comment wouldn't be possible and you could not be reminded/challenged. Peace😉✌
Ed rant I’m in ?recovery? right now and I just ate two small ice cream sandwiches and now I feel like not eating anything for the rest of the day and I feel like I failed somehow. I have @nørexia and I’m so sad that I ate those Ice cream sandwiches even though I know I have to gain weight but it feels wrong and now I’m terrified of the ice cream sandwiches. I’m trying not to think about it and go to the bathroom to purg3. I feel so scared that I’m gonna gain 4 lbs.
Wow. Randomly clicked and cannot believe how relatable this video is for me. I still have fears around animal products but I am making small steps to include them in my daily life and getting closer to demolishing those beliefs. The beliefs are so loud in my head but definitely not as loud as couple of months or even weeks ago. Super useful video Chardoodle, thank you.
Okay so watching this is really making me realize this is what I´m doing. Not exactly, I´m not vegan for example, but the whole thing with recovering but still following rules, only breaking some and occassionaly, and so on... I think my problem is I wasn´t given any time to process anything and no one was really like hey, let´s talk about how we wanna go about this, what you wanna do, how we can help, etc., I was just yelled at, thrown a meal plan (which I don´t follow at all, cuz that´s just not how I eat) and told if I don´t gain weight I´ll die. Like, I don´t even want to recover, really. I honestly don´t know what to do.
I feel this. Sometimes I blame it on not being taken more seriously honestly or taken seriously in the right ways like I couldn’t keep myself accountable if I wanted to. I’m just glad I came to the realization and am here now. Always here for you💘
I wish more people would drop the labels and just do what feels best for them and their body. That might mean oat milk and tofu one meal and chicken with Mayo for the next meal. I was also raw Vegan for many years and it’s so restrictive and so engulfed in ‘martyr/virtuous’ mentality. Also, I feel like black/white thinking around food is never really helpful as it gets in the way of intuition.
Really proud of the progress you’ve made. Thanks for sharing your journey. Can definitely relate !
Thank you so much and I 100% agree. There’s no reason to restrict yourself to a label or rules just eat what you want and your body’s natural cravings will let you know what’s right
i know that's not the main point but the part about living vicariously!! i relate to it so much, i kind of feel like i went from vicariously eating (obsessively watching non-disorded people eat😐) to vicariously recovering through others? like deep down i feel like i don't deserve to do those things myself or they just 'won't work for me' even though they do work for literally everyone else and i know that it doesn't make any sense but it's so hard to overcome? but i do feel a bit more hopeful after watching this video (i did stumble upon it while watching other people do the things that i don't have the courage to do myself...as always.... so that's quite ironic but at least it made me realize that this is an actual problem that i need to work on)
Yes!! I relate to every part of what you just said. It’s been such a long road of not feeling like I could commit to “full recovery” or that I couldn’t do it how others could, but I know my ed was just still holding me back. Always here for you 💜
I can totally relate to you. After watching this video I feel relieved that I am not the only person going through this and feeling this way about my own recovery. I after 9 months of deep and tense hard work with my great caring and loving therapist and after watching this inspiring video, I can say it now at I am in a quasi recovery in my Anorexia Disorder (ED) recovery
I recognise I have been in quasi recovery and I know I need to recover fully thank you for these videos they help a lot
Glad I could bring any comfort 💛 sending love & strength
Oh wow. Praise God I discovered your channel!!! I’ve watched a few of your videos and have been wanting to watch this one in particular because I feel like this is where I’m at (quasi-recovery). And you literally described all the things and thoughts I’m going through. And also the very wise decisions you’ve made to get OUT of quasi-recovery. I’ve watched many other ED “recovery” channels and any kind of dietary restrictions that aren’t medically related I feel are a form of restriction for those of us in recovery. So what you shared was just so stinking awesome. I am not vegan or vegetarian or gluten free, etc and never will be - there are truly no restrictions I need to put on my diet but I am so incredibly brainwashed by diet culture still. And living in fear. And by so so so many rules……. 😔 I can’t wait to watch more of your videos and see more of your journey. So much love to you. ❤️❤️❤️
Please continue with your videos, they help me so much right now!
i didn't even realize i was doing this until this video, thank you this helped me tremendously
I know this is so silly but like today I wanted a bagel and I just worked up the courage to go and eat it and the whole time I was thinking about your videos and your attitude towards food freedom. its so hard but slowly working through those barriers and "no foods"
This makes me so happy. You should be proud of yourself!❤️
Damn this kinda opend my eyes, thank you for sharing your experience and helpful thoughts
this video is so so relatable and most people don't really talk about this part. thank you for making this video!
Sounds so familiar 🙈 Recovering but "recovering" very restrictive way. 😔 You have done so brave things, you beat ed 🔥❤
wow our stories are SO similar. I find a lot of comfort in that :) keep going!!
Glad we can connect 💘 sending you sm love :)
Thank you. I was vegan (10 yrs) with ED (15+ years) and when I tried cheese the first time last year I cried and such a heavy burden fell off my shoulder. It was a hard decisions to not call myself vegan anymore but I realized it was part of my ED! I could really relate to that feeling you had with the ice cream. I feel like my recovery really started when I ditched the labels and I was also thinking I was recovered from Ed a long time ago but not until a couple of months ago I realized I had just begun! ❤️
Oh that compensation piece is so difficult. I think that's what keeps me in quasi-recovery. What has helped you get through quasi-recovery?
I don't know if I am in quasi-recovery or not. My family says I am because I don't want to use oil or high fat dairy products but I just don't know. I eat good and healthy predominately plant based foods (not raw or anything) but the thing you said about not eating "less healthy" foods got me thinking. Also what you said about being okay with eating baked goods at cafés but only in controlled situations or spontaneously if I know I haven't had it for a while. I just feel confused about everything and hear that I should gain weight but don't feel like I actually need it (but see that I do). Can you relate to this and do you have any opinions on this?
I am in quasi recovery now and I don’t know how to let go and get out of it!! I’ve also started obsessively walking. If I don’t walk I feel guilty for eating x,y and z. But I still do eat it all. I restrict all day until 9pm and then I binge on whatever I want. Any tips
i have been i quasi recovery for 1 whole year now but i talked to my dietitian and we've made a mealplan. (which i feel like isnt even nearly a healthy amount so were uppering it every time i go)
I found you on tiktok and came to your UA-cam and this video put into words all my thoughts over the last year. I’m in recovery from bulimia and I thought I “healed” when I went plant based/vegan simply bc I was eating more and not purging. I was vegan for 4 years. Then about a year ago I had some thoughts of why am I doing this ?? Is this another way for me to be maintains control? am I actually still in restriction but with a fancy label (vegan) . I was in quasi recovery !!! You read that definition and my jaw dropped
I incorporated tuna a few months ago and have been feeling guilty about it and not wanting other people to know I had been eating meat again. But why? I feel good eating it and nothing bad happened. I love veggies and plant based foods and will continue to eat them because I LIKE them but not because I’m living under a label or rules.
Thank you so much for making my thoughts come full circle. this helped me more than you know
I think there are so many of us out here who can relate. I was vegan for 15 years but also had an ED for those years. I also didn’t think i had a problem but was just “really healthy” and i went through recovery 2 years ago now but was still vegan. Just this past December i started to incorporate animal products again and feel like I’m starting recovery again. But I’ve learned a lot about animal products and nutrients. Also the environment can benefit from regenerative ag. And ya, labels suck. They suck you in. Just eat what your body needs. Everyone is so different. I can hardly believe how much I’ve changed since starting to eat animal products. Much more freedom. Social outings. Life. And i can relate to not craving animal foods. And wow suddenly all i want is beef, eggs and dairy! You got this girl!
You mention watching other people recover on UA-cam. Any ones you recommend watching?
Also, were you or are you trying to gain or maintain your weight?= Do you have any ideas on how to come to the conclusion whether or not you (I) should commit to it? Don't know because I am scared of what it means to gain weight but also want the positive things you are talking about which come with gaining weight and recovering.
I recommend reaching out to a ed specializing doctor / nurse practitioner / therapist because they can help identify if you’re at a healthy weight / where to go from here. I know it’s scary, terrifying actually, but getting help is the best thing you can do for yourself 🤍
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Thank you for sharing, love your videos
Thank you so much 💗
So relatable!!!
You should do a q&a
I am terrified to add back in animal products
Veganism is not a label, it's a moral stance! A very big difference. When someone says they are vegan, all they mean is that they recognize that Animal also feel pain, emotions and are sentient just like we are.
You don't have to label yourself Vegan, you can just protect the animals and not pay into this system that exploits, rapes and murders innocent Animal just because you feel like it. That's not a justification we life in our daily life's if any human would do it like that.
You can't love an animal and pay for it to be killed. What kind of love would that be?
It is not a personal decision if someone else is the victim.
I'm sorry but when i see & hear stuff like this I have to remind you and stand up for those who can't speak. Remember what happens to them. Or would you take anyone else life if it's just too much of a restriction/label/exhaustion for you? You can Recover and be kind and align your word with your action.
Otherwise the things you said about loving Animal and being very aware of it... supportive. None of it would be true. Actions speak louder than words, so if you actually stand for kindness, compassion and love then please rethink it and align your words with your actions.
If the label is bothering you just say that you protect the innocent and align your morals with your actions and choose to life that way.
If all of what I've written doesn't help you then here is what happens with every decision of yours, when you buy any animal body/Product --- [ua-cam.com/video/LQRAfJyEsko/v-deo.html]
Maybe this comes off a bit aggressive but that's not my intention here. I do support everyone in their recovery and really hope everyone can go beyond it.
Thank you for sharing and being open, otherwise this comment wouldn't be possible and you could not be reminded/challenged.
Peace😉✌
Rawr Vegan diet almost killed me
Ed rant
I’m in ?recovery? right now and I just ate two small ice cream sandwiches and now I feel like not eating anything for the rest of the day and I feel like I failed somehow. I have @nørexia and I’m so sad that I ate those Ice cream sandwiches even though I know I have to gain weight but it feels wrong and now I’m terrified of the ice cream sandwiches. I’m trying not to think about it and go to the bathroom to purg3. I feel so scared that I’m gonna gain 4 lbs.
I know it's late but please, you can DO THIS. It's hard, but never stop trying. Beat that fudging monster. Don't let it control YOU. 💪💪