Thank you so much for yet another fantastic podcast! Hearing about how teachers influence our early ambitions rang a huge bell. I personally think it is the main reason why the majority of people think they are not creative. It gets knocked out of us at an early age. Also, now that I know that it is not just me who plans to do add a couple of fine details to a painting, only to get stuck for hours and wipe it all off again, I feel soooo much better! The work/life balance is a hard one and I am a fully with Andrew on this one. This was a lovely day to start the day! Thank you both for your time.
How inspiring, cyclical, positive and awe-inspiring the life of Jacob Butler. For me the biggest 'take-away' of Jacob's story is that no matter how douer your situation may be you can't let negativity define your life. I think for me the fact that he triumphed despite the dips, twists, and turns in his life speaks volumes. Best of luck to you Jacob and congrats on the new family. Interesting.......the difference in your speech patterns. I was a communications major back in college who also dabbled in radio, cable TV (before the days of CNN) and also worked for a major telephone service company (pre 1990); I became accustomed to listening to people's voices. Being trained to listen to sounds one of the 1st things I picked up on, initially with Andrew in his other videos is the fact that he hardly sounds Australian at all. Almost no discernible accent whatsoever. Jacob, on the other hand has an accent quite strong and prominent -- this despite having lived in Italy for a number of years.
Another great Podcast! Thank you Andrew and Jacob. So many things said resonated with me: the lack of support from family, the resulting lack of belief in myself, and especially the part about critics. The critics in my head far outnumbered the flesh and blood critics. It took me a long time to ignore the critical voices in my head so I could move forward and find my voice expressed through my paintings. I wish I had heard Brené Brown’s UA-cam talk “Why Your Critics Aren't The Ones Who Count” 20 years ago. In this talk she cites “The Man in the Arena” quote from Theodore Roosevelt. Very powerful! I now only to listen to constructive criticism and pay no attention to anyone who is not in the arena themselves.
I had a teacher tell me I painted too detailed. I was horrified and this critique, in hind sight, I see how this stopped me from believing in myself and I never perused art. I only dabbled with art throughout my life. At over 60 years of age, presently, I picked up the brushes and paint and started painting watercolor. Now, painting too detailed is what people love about my work and I am being commissioned for my work. I'm taken aback about the number of artists who have received negative critiques by well meaning people. Thank you for your using your platform to interview other artists and for inspiring me with your so detailed, incredible paintings. Thank you for this interview with Me. Butler.
Andrew, I always found your painting skills simply incredible and that's an understatement. As I have read and been told you need to strive to the absolute best so that you are always striving. I have viewed(I am a subscriber)many, many videos of yours and its inspiring. Of course I'm a long way from attaining the level your at and maybe never will but will just continue to strive. You have a such a talent but I also see such a passion to spread your knowledge to others with all the art teaching videos. Even things such as setting up a studio or use of mediums are fantastic. I am 62 and started the painting adventure probably about 7 years ago just prior to getting remarried to the absolute love of my life. She as I am sure your Rachel is the driving force of everything I do. Her comments are I'll take care of this just go down and paint!! Anyway I am still learning trying to master or at least have a good understanding of the painting procedures and then develop my own comfortable methods. Things such as color mixing to just have a starting point so that when I decide to paint something that has different shades and different colors identifying them so you don't feel hesitant and therefore causes what I call "delay stress". You spend more time trying to get ut to the right value and or brightness. I have some idea since I took some art classes mostly drawing back in College a long time ago lol so have some idea about shading where the light comes in, etc This past year has been tough since my wife's mother lives with us at home and her altzheimers is unfortunately increasing. Because of this my "Art" time as been temporarily slowed as we both work and I will not allow my wife to do it all. Your videos have been a great asset for both learning as well as an escape from the craziness. I wanted to specifically tell you that when you started to do the "creative endeavor" as well as the most recent "drawing" endeavor podcast I was apprehensive since I was so use to listening the "nuts and bolts" of actual the painting process. I have to tell you listening to other artists on how they started, the troubles that they incurred in the beginning years, and the current problems and successes they have are incredible to listen to. I am an older man and wish I would have started this process sooner but not letting that deter me. I started doing craft fairs once I go enough paintings to fill a spot. Its a lot of fun. Thank you for your passion to bring your knowledge and skills to all of us..... defniceguy@gmail.com Ken
Fabulous interview! Jacob's story is the most unusual, inspiring (and funny!) so far. I absolutely love that he found a truly unique niche, jumped in with both feet and that it took off for him -- he deserves it! I love your questions too, Andrew -- what a fantastic interview.
Wow bro, this moved me. I was rudderless from around 13 to 34. Remember as a kid trying to copy Leonardo drawings and thought I was no good. Had no encouragement to persist, except for a teacher who noticed my skeletal drawings. So I always thought I was deluded thinking I could be an artist. It took temporal lobe epilepsy to wake me up to my true passion. Never looked back, even with moments of wanting to quit, just kept and keep marching on. Today I'm a full time artist, with a studio/gallery, and teach art one day a week from grade 1 to 7 at a private school. Every child in the class is my hero because I know they all have unique giftings, and all I can do is share with them the passion to discover their own treasures within.
Lipstick - how could they do that over his work!? So good to hear Jacob's story and how he rose above such attitudes and took the opportunities that came his way and became an artist in huge demand. Thanks again Andrew - just loving these podcasts and I'm regularly telling folk who are struggling to believe in themselves as artists to check them out. What you set out to do with the creative endeavour episodes is working! Thank you so much for taking the time to encourage us.
Hi Andrew, thanks for this latest podcast. It is interesting to hear yourself and Jacob discussing the issues that affect us from early childhood and the impact on our sense of self and our abilities are heavily affected by our upbringing: ie parental pressures and the influence of authority figures, teachers etc. This has been my story too. Other factors are low self esteem, depression or simply the fact that most artists are affected by sensory processing sensitivity and finding themselves overwhelmed by aspects of society. Creativity helps us to step away from the crowd and indulge our inner passions and develop our ability to observe and record so that we are able to project through our art. Art helps to makes us feel valued wether we are Proffessional or not. Art is a way of finding space and downtime. Great podcast.
So many golden nuggets in this one. Found myself relating to so many experiences, especially about the early life feedback from authority figures. Helps me get back on the horse. 🙌🏼
What a truly lovely young man Jacob is...so honest ! Enjoy your podcasts so much Andrew, nasty rainy day here so been painting all afternoon listening . Really enjoyed hearing your Dads story too I'm from the same decade, was a great era to be born !
Thanks Andrew. Jacob's wedding painting is an interesting niche, imagine the pressure! What an unbelievable rubbish teacher he had (the one with the lipstick). Regarding your question about why older people didn't just go for it when younger (I'm 60 now). I think it's much easier to be aware of the possibilities now that we have the Internet. When I went to art college decades ago I was actually kicked out for having an undue interest in the "technical and craft aspects" of drawing and painting - as in I wanted to learn how to do them (it was a Fine Art Painting degree course so it seemed a reasonable expectation to me!)! More crap teachers! Back then, in the early 80s, I had no idea that anyone earned any living from painting (provincial UK city, very working-class background). I needed income too, I couldn't afford to wait while I gave anything a chance, there was an immediate financial need. In the end, in order to be at least doing something related to painting, I trained as a painter and decorator and became self-employed doing that. Years later, I studied a part-time archaeological illustration course and then worked as an archaeological illustrator for a year (all pen and ink on film back then). That eventually led me to part-time advanced draughting (technical illustration, again mainly pen and ink), then graphic design courses (before computers) and a job working in graphics (desktop publishing had just started then) in a department involved in town/urban planning. That, in turn, inspired an interest in urban design so I then studied part-time again until I got an MSc in Environmental Planning and Urban Design and then spent many years working in that field. All this time I continued to paint in my spare time, sometimes a lot, other times less so, and to study from books and exhibitions. In the last ten years I have finally completed the education that I had wanted from that initial art school (but the staff couldn't have provided anyway even if they had wanted to), through a combination of Internet, videos I have bought and workshops and courses I have attended run by painters who really do know their stuff and how to teach it. Now I just need to put in the hours. In some ways, it's a shame that I couldn't find a way to know all this when I was younger but, on the other hand, I have learnt and experienced many other things that were interesting and that have made me who I am now (and I'm content with the present me). Even if I had somehow managed to get by as a painter, I would have missed out on many of the challenges that have helped me in a personal development sense and also on the people who I have known through this route through life. I think the frustrating thing is just that we all get only the one short life while there are so many many interesting possibilities and versions of life that we could live. There many routes to fulfillment, enlightenment, wisdom, personal growth, etc. Ever onwards!
Hey DPLG, I totally hear you, and appreciate you taking the time to share your story. I can relate to your experience in art school, with the exception of getting kicked out. I was tolerated, but I didn't exactly thrive in that environment. You're quite right, though life is short and there are many things that come up along the way, I don't think any experience is wasted. You'll be able to draw upon all of this and pour that into your creative outlet now. My comments RE older people in my workshops is just a generalisation, I hope I wasn't being rude or insensitive, I certainly meant no offence. It's just my thoughts relating to the way we educate children from the outset, and the way we approach life, and the opportunities we are given (or lack there of). The problem is an educational and cultural one, I feel. If you had been given the opportunity to study at an Atelier, and if were something that was valued culturally, then perhaps that would have been ideal. Hopefully something changes in the future, to allow more people to really follow their dreams. Still, I appreciate your time, and your comment.
@@AndrewTischlerArt Thanks Andrew. Don't worry, I understood what you meant in your comment about older people. Ultimately, I think it's largely down to finances. I imagine most people would follow their interests career-wise if they could earn a living at it or otherwise had sufficient resources to live. Painting isn't an easy option for a business and, even if viable, self-employment doesn't suit all temperaments or needs. We all have multiple priorities or desires and they often compete What you said about ateliers is true. I think there was just an unfortunate lack of access to good art education from around the 1960s until the atelier movement and the Internet came along. We almost all have access to all the knowledge and inspiration we could ever need now, though. How wonderful is that?!
I've watched all the podcasts and this one resonates with me the most. I'm a bit of an outcast and this makes me feel like there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Also, Andrew i find you one of the best interviewers of all time..lol.. no joke. Enjoy hearing you. 10/10
Thanks for sharing your story. In many ways it I can relate this to me. It’s difficult when you know you have something great to offer and lots of people don’t value that. I love painting and spend every day doing or thinking about my next painting.
when a person has the art inside their being ...and trying to work something else or for somebody else its like loosing the path you should walk.and you feel suffocating slowly thru the years . amazing video as always . 100% inspirational .thank you
It’s incredible how some teachers, and people in general, have no idea how they can influence (in a bad way) when we’re young. That teacher ruining his drawing with lipstick is just so mean. Thankfully artists are very strong minded... Thank you Andrew for another great episode.
Hey Thanks mate, Yeah, I shake my head. If only some people knew the impact they had, they might choose their words more carefully. Luckily Jacob wasn't deterred!
Hi Andrew! First and foremost I want to thank you so very very much for your podcasts and all the videos you have here on UA-cam. They are incredibly inspiring.. especially your landscapes. Love how they hang behind you during many of your videos and I always think.. I want to paint like you. You;re one of my idols. I remember you saying you have also many idols, artist you look up to. Not just to their work also to their way how they approached their work, their thinking process, business and so on. Like Jacob in his past I'm currently facing many thinks that speak against being a full-time artist, making it more than a side hustle. Barely support from one's own family and of course they're just worried about one's life and those that are involved too. But.. I'm afraid.. and with every time I'm telling someone about it I'm getting more anxious.. I want to try it though it's going to be hard especially because of certain circumstances. But when if not now? Already wasted so many years. And that's way I'm so grateful for your podcasts. For spreading the word of artist who have been there. It's so inspiring to hear about their stories. Thank you so so much!
Wonderful podcast. And JB is right, the Universe does help, it's the not knowing that it is helping is where the problems occur, or listening to the Universe, as in AT being fired from his jobs. I did have to giggle when AT said he got fired from every job. He's not the only one.....and not only jobs, a Volunteer job also. :)
Responding to being older: Being "older" (66) I just spent 9 yrs caring for my parents through a very demanding and challenging time. There was no time for art.. One gets older, one can get diseases: I was recovering from 3 cancer surgeries, kidney failure as well. Parental units passed earlier this year, I now have the time, health and future, and I have not put down the paint brush since then. You have been an inspiration to me and today I paint like a fiend. I came from a career as a creative director/art director/graphic artist/scientific-medical-architectural-magazine illustrator in the demanding and very competitive San Francisco Financial District . I have seen and directly experienced the cultural (my parents did not support my desire to go to college:marriage yes), economic, and technological changes effecting our lives and careers as artists in the last 49 years. Back in the 70's there was no internet and acquiring the right techniques, tools and materials was seriously challenging. Imagine life without the Smart phone, internet or TV. The TV was full of Flinstones, Leave It to Beaver, and Bob Ross was aired not until 1983 to 1994.The internet was just starting in the early-mid 90's. It was crude back then. There was the newspaper, magazines, the library, networking, radio interviews and no PBS or internet.Even libraries were limited and not networked as they are today. Today the internet is full of other artists and self-help champions to boost ones confidence and work through all of our issues. Imagine if you had no Tony Robbins, or access to any information or internet? Like your father, I just had the desire and guts (and the need to survive) to get out there and do it, or figure it out as I tried doing it. It was a very lonely and scary path as an artist. It was not as easy as it is today with the internet, cultural changes, global connections and information at our fingertips. Today the blessing of good people, like you, and youtube alone is amazing! It is an amazing time for artists! My first job was at the age of 15 (1969). I took life drawing classes with my parents at a local college (my parents snuck me in, I was too young to draw nudes LOL!). The teacher assumed I was 18+. His best friend needed a talented young person to do "Architectural Rendering". The college professor asked me if I was interested: I put on my mothers' shoes, her skirt and jacket and wore makeup for my big interview. I got the job. To put myself through college I would collect bugs and plants, draw and paint them for my fake "portfolio". I took Geology classes and drew earth-science related images from journals I found in the library. I went to the US Geological Survey to show this portfolio. To find that connection took over a year through a lot of networking. There was only a paper book called "The Phone Book", I had to go to the local library and ask the librarian for help because the phone book only covered that area code! Through persistence I was hired as a Scientific Illustrator and my artistic career goes on from there. Opportunities and limitations were different then.Many of those older people did not have the same opportunities available to them culturally, financially or technically. They did their best It is a new golden age for us artists we are so fortunate!
Thank you for video. Drew and painted as a child. My parents encouraged it for fun but didn't think I could make a living at that. So I became a nurse. Fast forward years later after marriage and kids, it been years since I had painted. One day in stress I was praying for direction. We were in financial distress with 2 kids in college etc. I clearly heard a a voice in my spirit , I believe God speaking to my heart, " paint a picture". I did. So much pressure lifted off me. I haven't gotten rich painting but I have sold some. I started myself an artist Facebook page. I'm still a nurse but I would love to do art full time instead. My art work blesses my soul and seems to bless others also. Your videos encourages me so much and I learn so much.
I had too many things I wanted to do. I wanted to be an artist, a singer, an actor and a writer, but everyone said, "You can't do it all. You have to choose one thing!" Well, the art suffered because I went to be the actor/singer/song writer thing. I discovered that wasn't the best choice. Now I'm retired law enforcement (A job I loved), and I want to get back into my art, but my brain has a hard time getting started. However, this interview has inspired me! Thanks! I need to get busy!
This was great Andrew, so inspiring to hear how different people’s art careers really are. Jacob’s is a fascinating story, especially how he found his niche as an artist. Plein air wedding painter? Never would have thought of that. 👍👌
Excellent interview, thanks. This discussion resonated with my own path in many ways! I should reveal I have two degrees - Art, and Engineering, now retired from a career in engineering. The Universe then suggested that I start painting. I listened, and haven’t looked back! I loved how you rephrased painting so the engineer could understand it! I once was drawing the ornate decorations on my grandma’s silverware. My little cousin came over to see what I was doing. I suggested she draw them too, but she told me she wasn’t very good in art. So I told her to make some very bad drawings of the spoons. So she happily proceeded to made some very good drawings of the spoons!
Thank you for doing this. I've been inspired to hopefully help people in their artistic endeavours as well using UA-cam to share. It's great to share stories and how-to's. You're providing a great service!
So many golden tips here on the creative endeavour; an inspirational filled clip thanks a bunch Andrew Tischler for sharing Jacob Butler's story what a champion ! totally agree with what you guys are saying and championing for in the arts lovin it!
Just wonderful, these interviews are so inspiring Andrew and so give a feeling of encouragement to get out and paint more. You pick such fabulous people to interview, I love watching them. Thanks for doing this Andrew much appreciated.
Thank you for doing these Creative Endeavor episodes! They have truly inspired me, especially this one. It can be difficult when people we look up to, however well intentioned tell us the work we do isn't the right path.
Yet one more great interview. It's fantastic that you are interviewing such different artist, all with individual ways of painting and take on life. Your Creative Endeavour podcasts are true discoveries in to the creative world. Thank you so much for doing them.
I think we our own worst enemies or at least I am and being able to see past what people say or do to our dreams or what feels right is the hardest thing some of us have to do! But hearing folks with similar obstacles like a shaky hand or teachers driving the nail in the coffin, pushing past those road blocks is helping others like myself break down our barriers or limits we let the world place in our way..So Thank You both Jacob & Andrew for the pod cast!😁
What an inspiring interview, so open and honest. This gives me just enormous encouragement to carry on. And understand fully why I paint. Thank you andrew and shakey
A wonderful & inspiring interview! 👏 Thank you!! And thanks for including my (older) generation-lol. I've been taking classes for "over 55s" in drawing and painting at a local community centre and am always impressed with the talent that so many people have but didn't get to explore until later in life. So grateful....and Hello from Canada 🇨🇦
Are you sure you're not interviewing Banksy? What a class act, Andrew! Brilliant interview and very uplifting as well. There's hidden magic Jacob's story. At around 15:30 he speaks of a friend who could render cariacatures quickly, and Jacob regarded this as "magic." This comment has given me a new direction and a possible solution to my painting. Coming from being a photographer for 50+ years I'm fighting the need to render fine detail and paint in a very realistic manner, when my heart tells me that I should be striving to paint in a more loose, impressionistic style. By striving to draw my subject with fewer lines, I'll eventually get there... thanks to Jacob's story. Good on you, mate! Thanks for a very compelling interview!
Andrew, I was a correction officer for 15 years and met some very talented inmates. I sometimes would be sketching or something and that would encourage them to show me their work.Some are extremely talented and that may be all they have, especially the lifers I would always encourage them to continue. It's funny how art or the love of art can be a great equalizer. I love your work and very much enjoy your podcasts.
Thanks for a great interview! I live in Fremantle and it’s wonderful to hear about local artists as well as artist overseas and about their work. Really inspiring listening to your interviews. Thank you!!
This is a great video.....At a young age I was told that there was no money in art and to think of getting a real job and stop day dreaming, it came from everywhere, family, friends. At the time I had a small child of 3 and was going through art/graphic school, I wanted to learn all that I could about the industry, maybe even get into film making too... I remembered how that hurt me so deeply, that no one had my back, well my father (retired) did watch my son while I was at school but always told me I was wasting my time. After that I put my son in a preschool close to school and took him with me when the art school let me, (think he learned a lot of art while he was there). Somewhere between my devouring info, just walking, breathing that life to all of a sudden just cold inside, I lost the drive that I had. It was so scary to just snap. I did finish school (4 years of it), graduated with honors but then went back to factory work because of the antagonistic view everyone had of me that I was not doing right by my son. I gave in to them, I wasn't strong enough. Now my son (who is 35) wants to get into the life I wanted to have so many years ago. I'm giving him that chance, giving him time to pursue his dream of music, film, art and crafts. He is very good and I'm very impressed with his talent. He was a set designer on a commercial shoot last month, started an Etsy store last month for his crafts and is in process of setting up promotional music events soon for others. I have been paying the bills to let him devote his time to get his business started and grow. I have heard from my family that my son is wasting his time and talking advantage of me for 2 years (he did sell a lot of crafts, went to music events and did a lot of networking in the first 2 years) - now everything is falling into place for him. I'm grateful I'm able to give him what my family could not give me. To show respect and give me confidence that I can do it. Thank you for doing these videos.
Hi Barbara, thanks for taking the time to share this with us. I totally hear where you are coming from. I am sure that that was incredibly difficult to hear, that art was a waste of time for you. However, what a blessing and a gift you are able to give to your son as a result of this experience. How lucky he is!!! Remember, it's not too late to just go for it! As long as we have breath and a pulse, we can create something and share it with others. Thanks again for your comment. :)
@@AndrewTischlerArt thank you for all you do....you have been such a blessing to me to find your channel...your work inspires me. These videos you're making of other artists and their challenges they have had is so needed to show us all we are not alone. Thank you so much. I am working towards continuing my art, I have sold a few pieces I've had recently which is giving me hope and to challenge myself to move forward again.
I had the artist dream taken away from me being told sitting and drawing was being lazy and the usual lie that you can't make a living from art. My father burnt or ripped up most of my work and that still hurts today 50 odd years later. I also had an art teacher that dismissed my work as being 'wrong'. The work Jacob did in prison was amazing and I bet he changed some men's lives for the better. You stop people being criminals by giving them a way to make money not committing crime. Not a criticism but I think because your father encouraged you in your art you were able to face the usual road blocks that artists face with more confidence than those retired students in your workshops it's possible you don't really appreciate how difficult it is for them. Listening to Jacob's story was very inspirational and I look forward to more.
Hi Irene! Thanks for the comment. I admire your perseverance, being able to pick up art again after you father burned your work. That's terrible! I hear your comment about not truly knowing what's it's like to face discouragement. I have faced it too! I have faced rejection all my life. Despite my father being a great role model, for which I am grateful, the pain that others go through is not lost on me. I absolutely can appreciate what they're going through. This is why I am doing the podcast, and why I strive to help others. Still, thanks for the comment.
@@AndrewTischlerArt I think my comment was very harsh and I'm sorry for that. One of my art friends in our life drawing does incredible work but she always draws on rubbish paper and tells us her work is no good. I think she could easily sell her drawings. We both lack the confidence to acknowledge our work is good but her pain is worse than mine. It's hard to put it behind you but Jacob's story has shown me it's never to late and I will tell her to watch this podcast.
@@beckyg9831 Thank you for your lovely comments. My father was deeply disturbed and never did anything to help anybody and he did eventually pay for his misdeeds. I never did stop drawing and painting but lost focus I guess but I'm learning to relax and except mistakes. I belong to our local art club and go every week to just do art for 2 hours. We all support each other and have fun. I had a heart attack 3 weeks ago and it sounds terrible but it was the best thing to happen to me because it made me focus on what really matters to me. I've started doing a small painting a day and it's been fun with no pressure to create a masterpiece.
@@beckyg9831 Thanks Becky, but even though I didn't pursue a career in art in the 70's and disappointed with myself I'm stubborn and keep at it. Art is amazing.
Similar story. I worked in building materials for 5 years after dropping art. Coworkers started having me draw things for them after I took a challenge from one coworker. It grew from there. We are where we are for a reason.
Thank you for another inspiring episode! I really enjoy watching these video podcasts, because I always listen to music with the right musical atmosphere while painting.
Wow, that happened to me to. Kids are delicate and not everyone / teacher knows how to deal with them. It's a very sad situation as they are the ones who are supposed to inspire children to dream
Another great podcast.....In light of your thoughts Andrew, re teaching and making it relate to the learner (in this case the Engineer), this is a key attribute to being a great teacher. Caring about the learner and getting in their heads! The great thing about art is it is so diverse and personally subjective and yet still broadly relatable. "Art is about looking at the world in DIFFERENT WAYS. It lets us see through the eye of the maker and in doing so it refreshes our own view of the world - It is a tonic for our imagination" Alan Yentob from the Art Documentary " Turning The Art World Inside Out" As for rejection and criticism "Rejection is an ILLUSION! You get as many chances as you are willing to take" - DR Ken ATCHITY ......I should spend less time as armchair UA-cam Philosopher and more time painting BUT in answer to the question "Why don't more people go for it?" Answer - FEAR and because it is VERY DIFFICULT!!! Keep em coming! Cheers from OZ
From reading “drawing on the right side of the brain”, I learned that language turns on the wrong side of your brain for drawing. I find that I can’t listen to words if I want to be in the “zone”. I typically listen to Enya or other similar music.
Ya I had a similar story in Art School. I was like they're not training me how to sell/market art, what's the point of this? So I ended up doing an MBA and Finance 17 years. What a waste of time. I've been doing art for about 10 years after losing 10 years. Still struggling to make it work though.
Wonderful interview! Checked out Jacob's Instagram, and he creates fabulous wedding paintings! Andrew, I always love your animal baseball hats, can you share a link on where we can buy them. Thanks again for an informative podcast!
Jacob, I think a person who leaves nasty messages, are just jealous. So so you were put through that. People (some)are cruel. leaving constructive criticism is one thing, being nasty is so different.
Hi Andrew, I really enjoyed this podcast but do really disagree with your view that older people only start painting because they have the time now and perhaps didn’t have the courage to just follow their passion. There are multiple reasons why people aren’t successful artists earlier in life, and making a living to pay the bills is the main one. For me I never considered I would do anything else, as a child and all through school I knew i was going to be an artist. I would draw and paint everyday and it was my absolute passion. I left school and went to art college, but at the time modern art was the focus; I was told my art was too tight and detailed, that my love for painting animals immature as real artists don’t paint animals and that everything I thought I knew about myself was wrong. I felt like such a failure , that I had let down my parents whose belief in my ability had always been constant. So I left art college and went to work in a zoo, if I couldn’t paint animals I decided I would work with them instead. I’ve had a varied career and now work for an animal charity, but I still paint and draw every day. I still identify and feel like an artist, I just don’t make a living at it - yet. My point being, please don’t judge older people as not having a passion to purse their dreams, life can be hard, unfair and difficult. Success at anything needs hard work, self belief, support from others and most of all a bit of luck. Remember too that the internet which is a wonderful platform to find inspiration, share ideas and your own work and connect with the wider world hasn’t been around that long. When I started out libraries were about the only place you could find information and this was limited . Art and success isn’t just for the younger go getting generation. Your work is incredible and you rightly deserve every success, but every person has a different life journey, please don’t judge.
I hate the way academia dictates what is and isn't art. They seem trained to reject both talent and beauty. Watched a televised art competion recently and the judges were constantly rejecting works on the basis of being "too pretty" "too good" or "to traditional"!
Petal Parker, I presume you are talking about the UK Sky portrait artist of the year, as hopefully there aren't more programs like that. Their comments are shocking and so destructive. And their choices bizarre. Not to be watched if you want to stay inspired!
@@taniamagicfingers1636 Yup! That's the one. Enjoyed the painting part of the show but the comments of the judges about what art they deemed as worthy was very revealing as to the arbitrary way the art world seems to work.
I saw that, and I thought the program was brilliant. Any chance to share more art and the process with others is a good thing. Great to see it going mainstream too. It's funny how the judges never miss an opportunity to justify their existence. I thought their comments revealed how little they actually know - I think the people can see through the paper thin facade. Still, great to have programs out there covering this stuff. Brilliant.
@@AndrewTischlerArt Agree totally. Loved the show and being introduced to all the art and being privy to the individual process of creating by each artist I couldn't get enough of -fantastic made me want to create more! But the Judges constant congratulating of themselves on their "choices" was irritating and only one judge was an artist the other was an independant curator and the other a historian.
Thank you so much for yet another fantastic podcast! Hearing about how teachers influence our early ambitions rang a huge bell. I personally think it is the main reason why the majority of people think they are not creative. It gets knocked out of us at an early age. Also, now that I know that it is not just me who plans to do add a couple of fine details to a painting, only to get stuck for hours and wipe it all off again, I feel soooo much better!
The work/life balance is a hard one and I am a fully with Andrew on this one.
This was a lovely day to start the day! Thank you both for your time.
How inspiring, cyclical, positive and awe-inspiring the life of Jacob Butler. For me the biggest 'take-away' of Jacob's story is that no matter how douer your situation may be you can't let negativity define your life. I think for me the fact that he triumphed despite the dips, twists, and turns in his life speaks volumes. Best of luck to you Jacob and congrats on the new family.
Interesting.......the difference in your speech patterns.
I was a communications major back in college who also dabbled in radio, cable TV (before the days of CNN) and also worked for a major telephone service company (pre 1990); I became accustomed to listening to people's voices.
Being trained to listen to sounds one of the 1st things I picked up on, initially with Andrew in his other videos is the fact that he hardly sounds Australian at all. Almost no discernible accent whatsoever. Jacob, on the other hand has an accent quite strong and prominent -- this despite having lived in Italy for a number of years.
Another great Podcast! Thank you Andrew and Jacob. So many things said resonated with me: the lack of support from family, the resulting lack of belief in myself, and especially the part about critics. The critics in my head far outnumbered the flesh and blood critics. It took me a long time to ignore the critical voices in my head so I could move forward and find my voice expressed through my paintings. I wish I had heard Brené Brown’s UA-cam talk “Why Your Critics Aren't The Ones Who Count” 20 years ago. In this talk she cites “The Man in the Arena” quote from Theodore Roosevelt. Very powerful! I now only to listen to constructive criticism and pay no attention to anyone who is not in the arena themselves.
Hey Susan, Glad you enjoyed it. I will have to check out that talk you mentioned!
I had a teacher tell me I painted too detailed. I was horrified and this critique, in hind sight, I see how this stopped me from believing in myself and I never perused art. I only dabbled with art throughout my life. At over 60 years of age, presently, I picked up the brushes and paint and started painting watercolor. Now, painting too detailed is what people love about my work and I am being commissioned for my work. I'm taken aback about the number of artists who have received negative critiques by well meaning people. Thank you for your using your platform to interview other artists and for inspiring me with your so detailed, incredible paintings. Thank you for this interview with Me. Butler.
Andrew, I always found your painting skills simply incredible and that's an understatement. As I have read and been told you need to strive to the absolute best so that you are always striving. I have viewed(I am a subscriber)many, many videos of yours and its inspiring. Of course I'm a long way from attaining the level your at and maybe never will but will just continue to strive. You have a such a talent but I also see such a passion to spread your knowledge to others with all the art teaching videos. Even things such as setting up a studio or use of mediums are fantastic. I am 62 and started the painting adventure probably about 7 years ago just prior to getting remarried to the absolute love of my life. She as I am sure your Rachel is the driving force of everything I do. Her comments are I'll take care of this just go down and paint!! Anyway I am still learning trying to master or at least have a good understanding of the painting procedures and then develop my own comfortable methods. Things such as color mixing to just have a starting point so that when I decide to paint something that has different shades and different colors identifying them so you don't feel hesitant and therefore causes what I call "delay stress". You spend more time trying to get ut to the right value and or brightness. I have some idea since I took some art classes mostly drawing back in College a long time ago lol so have some idea about shading where the light comes in, etc This past year has been tough since my wife's mother lives with us at home and her altzheimers is unfortunately increasing. Because of this my "Art" time as been temporarily slowed as we both work and I will not allow my wife to do it all. Your videos have been a great asset for both learning as well as an escape from the craziness. I wanted to specifically tell you that when you started to do the "creative endeavor" as well as the most recent "drawing" endeavor podcast I was apprehensive since I was so use to listening the "nuts and bolts" of actual the painting process. I have to tell you listening to other artists on how they started, the troubles that they incurred in the beginning years, and the current problems and successes they have are incredible to listen to. I am an older man and wish I would have started this process sooner but not letting that deter me. I started doing craft fairs once I go enough paintings to fill a spot. Its a lot of fun. Thank you for your passion to bring your knowledge and skills to all of us.....
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Fabulous interview! Jacob's story is the most unusual, inspiring (and funny!) so far. I absolutely love that he found a truly unique niche, jumped in with both feet and that it took off for him -- he deserves it! I love your questions too, Andrew -- what a fantastic interview.
Thanks Lisa, glad you enjoyed it!
Wow bro, this moved me. I was rudderless from around 13 to 34. Remember as a kid trying to copy Leonardo drawings and thought I was no good. Had no encouragement to persist, except for a teacher who noticed my skeletal drawings. So I always thought I was deluded thinking I could be an artist. It took temporal lobe epilepsy to wake me up to my true passion. Never looked back, even with moments of wanting to quit, just kept and keep marching on. Today I'm a full time artist, with a studio/gallery, and teach art one day a week from grade 1 to 7 at a private school. Every child in the class is my hero because I know they all have unique giftings, and all I can do is share with them the passion to discover their own treasures within.
Lipstick - how could they do that over his work!? So good to hear Jacob's story and how he rose above such attitudes and took the opportunities that came his way and became an artist in huge demand. Thanks again Andrew - just loving these podcasts and I'm regularly telling folk who are struggling to believe in themselves as artists to check them out. What you set out to do with the creative endeavour episodes is working! Thank you so much for taking the time to encourage us.
Hi Andrew, thanks for this latest podcast. It is interesting to hear yourself and Jacob discussing the issues that affect us from early childhood and the impact on our sense of self and our abilities are heavily affected by our upbringing: ie parental pressures and the influence of authority figures, teachers etc. This has been my story too. Other factors are low self esteem, depression or simply the fact that most artists are affected by sensory processing sensitivity and finding themselves overwhelmed by aspects of society. Creativity helps us to step away from the crowd and indulge our inner passions and develop our ability to observe and record so that we are able to project through our art. Art helps to makes us feel valued wether we are Proffessional or not. Art is a way of finding space and downtime. Great podcast.
So many golden nuggets in this one. Found myself relating to so many experiences, especially about the early life feedback from authority figures. Helps me get back on the horse. 🙌🏼
What a truly lovely young man Jacob is...so honest !
Enjoy your podcasts so much Andrew, nasty rainy day here so been painting all afternoon listening . Really enjoyed hearing your Dads story too I'm from the same decade, was a great era to be born !
Thanks Andrew. Jacob's wedding painting is an interesting niche, imagine the pressure! What an unbelievable rubbish teacher he had (the one with the lipstick). Regarding your question about why older people didn't just go for it when younger (I'm 60 now). I think it's much easier to be aware of the possibilities now that we have the Internet. When I went to art college decades ago I was actually kicked out for having an undue interest in the "technical and craft aspects" of drawing and painting - as in I wanted to learn how to do them (it was a Fine Art Painting degree course so it seemed a reasonable expectation to me!)! More crap teachers! Back then, in the early 80s, I had no idea that anyone earned any living from painting (provincial UK city, very working-class background). I needed income too, I couldn't afford to wait while I gave anything a chance, there was an immediate financial need. In the end, in order to be at least doing something related to painting, I trained as a painter and decorator and became self-employed doing that. Years later, I studied a part-time archaeological illustration course and then worked as an archaeological illustrator for a year (all pen and ink on film back then). That eventually led me to part-time advanced draughting (technical illustration, again mainly pen and ink), then graphic design courses (before computers) and a job working in graphics (desktop publishing had just started then) in a department involved in town/urban planning. That, in turn, inspired an interest in urban design so I then studied part-time again until I got an MSc in Environmental Planning and Urban Design and then spent many years working in that field. All this time I continued to paint in my spare time, sometimes a lot, other times less so, and to study from books and exhibitions. In the last ten years I have finally completed the education that I had wanted from that initial art school (but the staff couldn't have provided anyway even if they had wanted to), through a combination of Internet, videos I have bought and workshops and courses I have attended run by painters who really do know their stuff and how to teach it. Now I just need to put in the hours. In some ways, it's a shame that I couldn't find a way to know all this when I was younger but, on the other hand, I have learnt and experienced many other things that were interesting and that have made me who I am now (and I'm content with the present me). Even if I had somehow managed to get by as a painter, I would have missed out on many of the challenges that have helped me in a personal development sense and also on the people who I have known through this route through life. I think the frustrating thing is just that we all get only the one short life while there are so many many interesting possibilities and versions of life that we could live. There many routes to fulfillment, enlightenment, wisdom, personal growth, etc. Ever onwards!
Hey DPLG, I totally hear you, and appreciate you taking the time to share your story. I can relate to your experience in art school, with the exception of getting kicked out. I was tolerated, but I didn't exactly thrive in that environment. You're quite right, though life is short and there are many things that come up along the way, I don't think any experience is wasted. You'll be able to draw upon all of this and pour that into your creative outlet now. My comments RE older people in my workshops is just a generalisation, I hope I wasn't being rude or insensitive, I certainly meant no offence. It's just my thoughts relating to the way we educate children from the outset, and the way we approach life, and the opportunities we are given (or lack there of). The problem is an educational and cultural one, I feel. If you had been given the opportunity to study at an Atelier, and if were something that was valued culturally, then perhaps that would have been ideal. Hopefully something changes in the future, to allow more people to really follow their dreams. Still, I appreciate your time, and your comment.
@@AndrewTischlerArt Thanks Andrew. Don't worry, I understood what you meant in your comment about older people. Ultimately, I think it's largely down to finances. I imagine most people would follow their interests career-wise if they could earn a living at it or otherwise had sufficient resources to live. Painting isn't an easy option for a business and, even if viable, self-employment doesn't suit all temperaments or needs. We all have multiple priorities or desires and they often compete What you said about ateliers is true. I think there was just an unfortunate lack of access to good art education from around the 1960s until the atelier movement and the Internet came along. We almost all have access to all the knowledge and inspiration we could ever need now, though. How wonderful is that?!
I've watched all the podcasts and this one resonates with me the most. I'm a bit of an outcast and this makes me feel like there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Also, Andrew i find you one of the best interviewers of all time..lol.. no joke. Enjoy hearing you. 10/10
Thanks for sharing your story. In many ways it I can relate this to me. It’s difficult when you know you have something great to offer and lots of people don’t value that. I love painting and spend every day doing or thinking about my next painting.
when a person has the art inside their being ...and trying to work something else or for somebody else its like loosing the path you should walk.and you feel suffocating slowly thru the years . amazing video as always . 100% inspirational .thank you
It’s incredible how some teachers, and people in general, have no idea how they can influence (in a bad way) when we’re young.
That teacher ruining his drawing with lipstick is just so mean.
Thankfully artists are very strong minded...
Thank you Andrew for another great episode.
Hey Thanks mate,
Yeah, I shake my head. If only some people knew the impact they had, they might choose their words more carefully. Luckily Jacob wasn't deterred!
My old art teacher said some negative stuff to me I take that as motivation and keep pushing
Hi Andrew! First and foremost I want to thank you so very very much for your podcasts and all the videos you have here on UA-cam. They are incredibly inspiring.. especially your landscapes. Love how they hang behind you during many of your videos and I always think.. I want to paint like you. You;re one of my idols. I remember you saying you have also many idols, artist you look up to. Not just to their work also to their way how they approached their work, their thinking process, business and so on. Like Jacob in his past I'm currently facing many thinks that speak against being a full-time artist, making it more than a side hustle. Barely support from one's own family and of course they're just worried about one's life and those that are involved too. But.. I'm afraid.. and with every time I'm telling someone about it I'm getting more anxious.. I want to try it though it's going to be hard especially because of certain circumstances. But when if not now? Already wasted so many years. And that's way I'm so grateful for your podcasts. For spreading the word of artist who have been there. It's so inspiring to hear about their stories. Thank you so so much!
Wonderful podcast. And JB is right, the Universe does help, it's the not knowing that it is helping is where the problems occur, or listening to the Universe, as in AT being fired from his jobs. I did have to giggle when AT said he got fired from every job. He's not the only one.....and not only jobs, a Volunteer job also. :)
Responding to being older: Being "older" (66) I just spent 9 yrs caring for my parents through a very demanding and challenging time. There was no time for art.. One gets older, one can get diseases: I was recovering from 3 cancer surgeries, kidney failure as well. Parental units passed earlier this year, I now have the time, health and future, and I have not put down the paint brush since then. You have been an inspiration to me and today I paint like a fiend. I came from a career as a creative director/art director/graphic artist/scientific-medical-architectural-magazine illustrator in the demanding and very competitive San Francisco Financial District . I have seen and directly experienced the cultural (my parents did not support my desire to go to college:marriage yes), economic, and technological changes effecting our lives and careers as artists in the last 49 years. Back in the 70's there was no internet and acquiring the right techniques, tools and materials was seriously challenging. Imagine life without the Smart phone, internet or TV. The TV was full of Flinstones, Leave It to Beaver, and Bob Ross was aired not until 1983 to 1994.The internet was just starting in the early-mid 90's. It was crude back then. There was the newspaper, magazines, the library, networking, radio interviews and no PBS or internet.Even libraries were limited and not networked as they are today. Today the internet is full of other artists and self-help champions to boost ones confidence and work through all of our issues. Imagine if you had no Tony Robbins, or access to any information or internet? Like your father, I just had the desire and guts (and the need to survive) to get out there and do it, or figure it out as I tried doing it. It was a very lonely and scary path as an artist. It was not as easy as it is today with the internet, cultural changes, global connections and information at our fingertips. Today the blessing of good people, like you, and youtube alone is amazing! It is an amazing time for artists! My first job was at the age of 15 (1969). I took life drawing classes with my parents at a local college (my parents snuck me in, I was too young to draw nudes LOL!). The teacher assumed I was 18+. His best friend needed a talented young person to do "Architectural Rendering". The college professor asked me if I was interested: I put on my mothers' shoes, her skirt and jacket and wore makeup for my big interview. I got the job. To put myself through college I would collect bugs and plants, draw and paint them for my fake "portfolio". I took Geology classes and drew earth-science related images from journals I found in the library. I went to the US Geological Survey to show this portfolio. To find that connection took over a year through a lot of networking. There was only a paper book called "The Phone Book", I had to go to the local library and ask the librarian for help because the phone book only covered that area code! Through persistence I was hired as a Scientific Illustrator and my artistic career goes on from there. Opportunities and limitations were different then.Many of those older people did not have the same opportunities available to them culturally, financially or technically. They did their best It is a new golden age for us artists we are so fortunate!
Thank you for video. Drew and painted as a child. My parents encouraged it for fun but didn't think I could make a living at that. So I became a nurse. Fast forward years later after marriage and kids, it been years since I had painted. One day in stress I was praying for direction. We were in financial distress with 2 kids in college etc. I clearly heard a a voice in my spirit , I believe God speaking to my heart, " paint a picture". I did. So much pressure lifted off me. I haven't gotten rich painting but I have sold some. I started myself an artist Facebook page. I'm still a nurse but I would love to do art full time instead. My art work blesses my soul and seems to bless others also. Your videos encourages me so much and I learn so much.
I had too many things I wanted to do. I wanted to be an artist, a singer, an actor and a writer, but everyone said, "You can't do it all. You have to choose one thing!" Well, the art suffered because I went to be the actor/singer/song writer thing. I discovered that wasn't the best choice. Now I'm retired law enforcement (A job I loved), and I want to get back into my art, but my brain has a hard time getting started. However, this interview has inspired me! Thanks! I need to get busy!
This was great Andrew, so inspiring to hear how different people’s art careers really are. Jacob’s is a fascinating story, especially how he found his niche as an artist. Plein air wedding painter? Never would have thought of that. 👍👌
Like enchanted rock in Texas, giant dome of granite, love the reboot in nature.
Thank you!! Awesome interview, love meeting this very cool artist ....
Excellent interview, thanks. This discussion resonated with my own path in many ways! I should reveal I have two degrees - Art, and Engineering, now retired from a career in engineering. The Universe then suggested that I start painting. I listened, and haven’t looked back!
I loved how you rephrased painting so the engineer could understand it! I once was drawing the ornate decorations on my grandma’s silverware. My little cousin came over to see what I was doing. I suggested she draw them too, but she told me she wasn’t very good in art. So I told her to make some very bad drawings of the spoons. So she happily proceeded to made some very good drawings of the spoons!
Thank you for doing this. I've been inspired to hopefully help people in their artistic endeavours as well using UA-cam to share. It's great to share stories and how-to's. You're providing a great service!
Another WONDERFUL interview!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
So many golden tips here on the creative endeavour; an inspirational filled clip thanks a bunch Andrew Tischler for sharing Jacob Butler's story what a champion ! totally agree with what you guys are saying and championing for in the arts lovin it!
Always great to see this pod go up right as I'm about to settle into paint for a bit. Thanks for doing this Andrew!
Just wonderful, these interviews are so inspiring Andrew and so give a feeling of encouragement to get out and paint more. You pick such fabulous people to interview, I love watching them. Thanks for doing this Andrew much appreciated.
Thank you for doing these Creative Endeavor episodes! They have truly inspired me, especially this one. It can be difficult when people we look up to, however well intentioned tell us the work we do isn't the right path.
Yet one more great interview. It's fantastic that you are interviewing such different artist, all with individual ways of painting and take on life. Your Creative Endeavour podcasts are true discoveries in to the creative world. Thank you so much for doing them.
I think we our own worst enemies or at least I am and being able to see past what people say or do to our dreams or what feels right is the hardest thing some of us have to do! But hearing folks with similar obstacles like a shaky hand or teachers driving the nail in the coffin, pushing past those road blocks is helping others like myself break down our barriers or limits we let the world place in our way..So Thank You both Jacob & Andrew for the pod cast!😁
What an inspiring interview, so open and honest. This gives me just enormous encouragement to carry on. And understand fully why I paint. Thank you andrew and shakey
A wonderful & inspiring interview! 👏 Thank you!! And thanks for including my (older) generation-lol. I've been taking classes for "over 55s" in drawing and painting at a local community centre and am always impressed with the talent that so many people have but didn't get to explore until later in life. So grateful....and Hello from Canada 🇨🇦
Are you sure you're not interviewing Banksy?
What a class act, Andrew! Brilliant interview and very uplifting as well.
There's hidden magic Jacob's story. At around 15:30 he speaks of a friend who could render cariacatures quickly, and Jacob regarded this as "magic."
This comment has given me a new direction and a possible solution to my painting. Coming from being a photographer for 50+ years I'm fighting the need to render fine detail and paint in a very realistic manner, when my heart tells me that I should be striving to paint in a more loose, impressionistic style.
By striving to draw my subject with fewer lines, I'll eventually get there... thanks to Jacob's story.
Good on you, mate! Thanks for a very compelling interview!
Andrew, I was a correction officer for 15 years and met some very talented inmates. I sometimes would be sketching or something and that would encourage them to show me their work.Some are extremely talented and that may be all they have, especially the lifers I would always encourage them to continue. It's funny how art or the love of art can be a great equalizer. I love your work and very much enjoy your podcasts.
Thanks for a great interview! I live in Fremantle and it’s wonderful to hear about local artists as well as artist overseas and about their work. Really inspiring listening to your interviews. Thank you!!
Love your podcast Andrew! Great interview. Thanks to you and Jacob for sharing!
This is a great video.....At a young age I was told that there was no money in art and to think of getting a real job and stop day dreaming, it came from everywhere, family, friends. At the time I had a small child of 3 and was going through art/graphic school, I wanted to learn all that I could about the industry, maybe even get into film making too...
I remembered how that hurt me so deeply, that no one had my back, well my father (retired) did watch my son while I was at school but always told me I was wasting my time. After that I put my son in a preschool close to school and took him with me when the art school let me, (think he learned a lot of art while he was there). Somewhere between my devouring info, just walking, breathing that life to all of a sudden just cold inside, I lost the drive that I had. It was so scary to just snap. I did finish school (4 years of it), graduated with honors but then went back to factory work because of the antagonistic view everyone had of me that I was not doing right by my son. I gave in to them, I wasn't strong enough.
Now my son (who is 35) wants to get into the life I wanted to have so many years ago. I'm giving him that chance, giving him time to pursue his dream of music, film, art and crafts. He is very good and I'm very impressed with his talent. He was a set designer on a commercial shoot last month, started an Etsy store last month for his crafts and is in process of setting up promotional music events soon for others. I have been paying the bills to let him devote his time to get his business started and grow. I have heard from my family that my son is wasting his time and talking advantage of me for 2 years (he did sell a lot of crafts, went to music events and did a lot of networking in the first 2 years) - now everything is falling into place for him. I'm grateful I'm able to give him what my family could not give me. To show respect and give me confidence that I can do it.
Thank you for doing these videos.
Hi Barbara, thanks for taking the time to share this with us. I totally hear where you are coming from. I am sure that that was incredibly difficult to hear, that art was a waste of time for you. However, what a blessing and a gift you are able to give to your son as a result of this experience. How lucky he is!!! Remember, it's not too late to just go for it! As long as we have breath and a pulse, we can create something and share it with others. Thanks again for your comment. :)
@@AndrewTischlerArt thank you for all you do....you have been such a blessing to me to find your channel...your work inspires me. These videos you're making of other artists and their challenges they have had is so needed to show us all we are not alone. Thank you so much. I am working towards continuing my art, I have sold a few pieces I've had recently which is giving me hope and to challenge myself to move forward again.
I had the artist dream taken away from me being told sitting and drawing was being lazy and the usual lie that you can't make a living from art. My father burnt or ripped up most of my work and that still hurts today 50 odd years later. I also had an art teacher that dismissed my work as being 'wrong'. The work Jacob did in prison was amazing and I bet he changed some men's lives for the better. You stop people being criminals by giving them a way to make money not committing crime. Not a criticism but I think because your father encouraged you in your art you were able to face the usual road blocks that artists face with more confidence than those retired students in your workshops it's possible you don't really appreciate how difficult it is for them. Listening to Jacob's story was very inspirational and I look forward to more.
Hi Irene! Thanks for the comment. I admire your perseverance, being able to pick up art again after you father burned your work. That's terrible! I hear your comment about not truly knowing what's it's like to face discouragement. I have faced it too! I have faced rejection all my life. Despite my father being a great role model, for which I am grateful, the pain that others go through is not lost on me. I absolutely can appreciate what they're going through. This is why I am doing the podcast, and why I strive to help others. Still, thanks for the comment.
@@AndrewTischlerArt I think my comment was very harsh and I'm sorry for that. One of my art friends in our life drawing does incredible work but she always draws on rubbish paper and tells us her work is no good. I think she could easily sell her drawings. We both lack the confidence to acknowledge our work is good but her pain is worse than mine. It's hard to put it behind you but Jacob's story has shown me it's never to late and I will tell her to watch this podcast.
@@beckyg9831 Thank you for your lovely comments. My father was deeply disturbed and never did anything to help anybody and he did eventually pay for his misdeeds. I never did stop drawing and painting but lost focus I guess but I'm learning to relax and except mistakes. I belong to our local art club and go every week to just do art for 2 hours. We all support each other and have fun. I had a heart attack 3 weeks ago and it sounds terrible but it was the best thing to happen to me because it made me focus on what really matters to me. I've started doing a small painting a day and it's been fun with no pressure to create a masterpiece.
@@beckyg9831 Thanks Becky, but even though I didn't pursue a career in art in the 70's and disappointed with myself I'm stubborn and keep at it. Art is amazing.
This series is a must for anyone that feels like art is in them! Brilliant :)))
Thank you for this!!!!!! You are really CHANGING LIVES!!!!
thnx for this! love listening to the interviews while working in my studio. It's realy working well for me :)
This was an outstanding discussion! Thank you!
I love the reset of camping to recharge and find inspiration
Similar story. I worked in building materials for 5 years after dropping art. Coworkers started having me draw things for them after I took a challenge from one coworker. It grew from there. We are where we are for a reason.
The lesson for all is very clear and loud...thank you
What an inspirational story. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for another inspiring episode!
I really enjoy watching these video podcasts, because I always listen to music with the right musical atmosphere while painting.
Wow, that happened to me to. Kids are delicate and not everyone / teacher knows how to deal with them. It's a very sad situation as they are the ones who are supposed to inspire children to dream
Another great podcast.....In light of your thoughts Andrew, re teaching and making it relate to the learner (in this case the Engineer), this is a key attribute to being a great teacher. Caring about the learner and getting in their heads! The great thing about art is it is so diverse and personally subjective and yet still broadly relatable.
"Art is about looking at the world in DIFFERENT WAYS. It lets us see through the eye of the maker and in doing so it refreshes our own view of the world - It is a tonic for our imagination"
Alan Yentob from the Art Documentary " Turning The Art World Inside Out"
As for rejection and criticism
"Rejection is an ILLUSION! You get as many chances as you are willing to take" - DR Ken ATCHITY
......I should spend less time as armchair UA-cam Philosopher and more time painting BUT in answer to the question "Why don't more people go for it?" Answer - FEAR and because it is VERY DIFFICULT!!!
Keep em coming! Cheers from OZ
Andrew you are truly a great and noble true heart!!!
Must watch again and again...what value.
From reading “drawing on the right side of the brain”, I learned that language turns on the wrong side of your brain for drawing. I find that I can’t listen to words if I want to be in the “zone”. I typically listen to Enya or other similar music.
That's not just a great artist but a brave one too!
What a great story!
Great interview!! Thanks for uploading.
Great stuff!!!! Motivation
Another great podcast, love it !
What an interesting career path, and you ask very good questions Andrew!
Thank you Andrew for discussing the limited belief that artist can't make money doing what they love. We're not Starving Artist 🎨.
Wow really this talk was all full of sign to follow Ur 💓
Ya I had a similar story in Art School. I was like they're not training me how to sell/market art, what's the point of this? So I ended up doing an MBA and Finance 17 years. What a waste of time. I've been doing art for about 10 years after losing 10 years. Still struggling to make it work though.
So inspiring
Great! Thanks!
Such an inspiring local talent
yup. inspiring. great interview as usual andrew.
Wonderful interview! Checked out Jacob's Instagram, and he creates fabulous wedding paintings! Andrew, I always love your animal baseball hats, can you share a link on where we can buy them. Thanks again for an informative podcast!
Interesting video, quite an inspiring young man. thanks Andrew.
omg Bukowski! LOL SCRAMBLE TWO!
enjoyed the podcast
So hooked now :))
Well done
I subscribed to your channel, your video was great, traveled with the painter, and we worked hard together.
What a fine man!
loved this
Jacob, I think a person who leaves nasty messages, are just jealous. So so you were put through that. People (some)are cruel. leaving constructive criticism is one thing, being nasty is so different.
Jacob is hot
" andrew you're such a hippie "
haha! Guilty!
Could you do a video on Egg Tempera?
I'm afraid I don't use that medium or have any experience with it. I will have to do some digging!
Thank you!! Enjoy your content. Keep up the good work!!
Hi Andrew, I really enjoyed this podcast but do really disagree with your view that older people only start painting because they have the time now and perhaps didn’t have the courage to just follow their passion. There are multiple reasons why people aren’t successful artists earlier in life, and making a living to pay the bills is the main one. For me I never considered I would do anything else, as a child and all through school I knew i was going to be an artist. I would draw and paint everyday and it was my absolute passion. I left school and went to art college, but at the time modern art was the focus; I was told my art was too tight and detailed, that my love for painting animals immature as real artists don’t paint animals and that everything I thought I knew about myself was wrong. I felt like such a failure , that I had let down my parents whose belief in my ability had always been constant. So I left art college and went to work in a zoo, if I couldn’t paint animals I decided I would work with them instead. I’ve had a varied career and now work for an animal charity, but I still paint and draw every day. I still identify and feel like an artist, I just don’t make a living at it - yet. My point being, please don’t judge older people as not having a passion to purse their dreams, life can be hard, unfair and difficult. Success at anything needs hard work, self belief, support from others and most of all a bit of luck. Remember too that the internet which is a wonderful platform to find inspiration, share ideas and your own work and connect with the wider world hasn’t been around that long. When I started out libraries were about the only place you could find information and this was limited . Art and success isn’t just for the younger go getting generation. Your work is incredible and you rightly deserve every success, but every person has a different life journey, please don’t judge.
Most of my teachers rank among the worst people i've known
dina kalo Damm lol are you sure you weren't a bad kid lol
Snowing in August?
New Zealand, mate. Seasons are opposite here
@@AndrewTischlerArt Ohhhhhhh, thanks. Guess I need to pay better attention.
That teacher in his early days was abusive! How wrong to squelch a persons creativity just because it wasn't "THEIR" style! Unbelievable!
I hate the way academia dictates what is and isn't art. They seem trained to reject both talent and beauty. Watched a televised art competion recently and the judges were constantly rejecting works on the basis of being "too pretty" "too good" or "to traditional"!
Petal Parker, I presume you are talking about the UK Sky portrait artist of the year, as hopefully there aren't more programs like that. Their comments are shocking and so destructive. And their choices bizarre. Not to be watched if you want to stay inspired!
@@taniamagicfingers1636 Yup! That's the one. Enjoyed the painting part of the show but the comments of the judges about what art they deemed as worthy was very revealing as to the arbitrary way the art world seems to work.
I saw that, and I thought the program was brilliant. Any chance to share more art and the process with others is a good thing. Great to see it going mainstream too. It's funny how the judges never miss an opportunity to justify their existence. I thought their comments revealed how little they actually know - I think the people can see through the paper thin facade. Still, great to have programs out there covering this stuff. Brilliant.
@@AndrewTischlerArt Agree totally. Loved the show and being introduced to all the art and being privy to the individual process of creating by each artist I couldn't get enough of -fantastic made me want to create more! But the Judges constant congratulating of themselves on their "choices" was irritating and only one judge was an artist the other was an independant curator and the other a historian.
That was nice 🙄