Gibson Lost the Flying V Trademark... but Does It Really Matter? | 2005 '67 Reissue Flying V Demo
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links In Description!
0:20 - Flying V Trademark Lost
2:19 - Flying V Through the Years
3:50 - '67 Reissue Flying V
4:26 - Inside Look / Specs
7:25 - Tone Demo
9:05 - Final Thoughts
10:07 - Condition
13:15 - Blacklight Test
13:40 - Case
Today we discuss my feeling of the announce news that Gibson lost the trademark for the Flying V in the EU. It really doesn't mean much and likely wouldn't have made headlines if Gibson wasn't currently trying to sue Dean for making a flying v among other things. Lots of people are confusing this as the result of THESE lawsuits which is incorrect. This isn't the first time this has happened to Gibson.
We also discuss the history of the Flying V a little bit as it pertians to this Gibson USA '67 Flying V "Reissue."
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I don't think this ruling is too big of a deal - It's been an eventful past week for Gibson... reverb.com/item/25830082-video-2005-gibson-flying-v-67-reissue-gloss-cherry-w-hardshell-case?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly
I love watching gibson crash and burn. Shouldn't have sold out to heartless, bottomless suits.
@@yungchill69 You do realize that Gibson has been owned by corporate entities since 1944, don't you? And every single one of them was focused on the bottom line. Nothing different about this group, just using a different medium to throw their weight around. Agnesi's video is nothing compared to how CMI used to protect their business ventures.
@@tinyb4165 everything is owned by a corperate entity, if its a business that isnt local its owned by a corperate entity but im talking about when they started getting tugged on by debtholders. about back in 2018 is when i decided to start enjoying watching them crumble and the cherry on top was when i saw this report after a long string of other bad news for the company them firing ceos and what not people leaving and speaking out.
"A recent Bloomberg report says a group of debtholders advised by PJT Partners Inc. is pushing for a restructuring"
www.daytondailynews.com/business/investors-want-new-ceo-gibson/oFwX6RtR1AZr64OFIKAkXP/
I'm frankly disgusted by all the Yanks loving it that Gibson , an American company are losing the rights to everything left ,right & centre. No it's not right that just because a Flying V is 60 years old ,it's ok to shamelessly rip off the design & name . Has nobody got morals over there ? The EU are bound to support Framus / Warwick etc , that's how that corrupted bullshit union works . Hurry up Brexit !
I think it's quite a huge blow and big deal to Gibson if the EU didn't grant Gibson the trademark. You now have all of Asia and Europe that can happily continue building and selling the V and Explorer shape. That's a hell of a lot of lost business for Gibson. The only Country these guitars will be legit and protected in are the USA. That's not a good business practice to pretend a specific region is not relevant, hence why Gibson filed it in the EU also.
The guy most famous for playing a "V" (Albert King) didn't even play a Gibson for most of his career: he played a copy built by Dan Erlewine given to him as a gift.
Not even 20 seconds into this video and I hear "I've got this Flying V kicking around"!
Hilarious, because many of us have a Flying V or two laying around!
It just struck me as funny........
This flying V has sat unlisted and unreviewed since Unboxing video #2... we are now going on #18 haha
@@Trog Glad the stars aligned so you could review it with the EU Lawsuit news. Thank You
Hell yeah! Lol!
I just have a Squier tele
Every time I see a demo of a "V", I tell myself that I really need to get one of those. Then I realize that I've owned 3 in my life, and got rid of them because I couldn't get used to playing one.
Man, your gut is telling you to give it another shot! I absolutely love and adore mine. It's my main playe. Give it another go my man \m/ the Faded Series is selling for around $6-700 online, and that's what I have. The thin finish makes it sing even more. My luthier says it's the best one he's ever heard, and he's "not much of a v guy"
Maybe try a Solar V.
If the shape isn't for you - then it just isn't. I tried to bond with my Firebird for years, put it away for months, tried again, over and over for almost two decades. It was the first "good" guitar I ever bought and it has a "history" with a previous owner whose band had a couple of hits, including a worlwide top ten hit. So I absolutely didn't want to sell it. Loved the sound, loved the neck. I just couldn't find a position that felt right for my right arm or that didn't feel "jumpy"/unstable. I even moved the strap buttons to different positions. No dice!
When I found a good Strat and a decent ES-335, I eventually stopped playing the Firebird entirely and it stayed in its case for three years at one point. Then I pulled it out again one day, had the same difficulties again - but worse because I was conditioned to the ergonomics of the Strat now. That was when I finally broke down and sold it. Some things just aren't meant to be...
If a guitar shape or style just doesn't fit your body, it doesn't matter how many you buy or how long you try - or how strong the GAS is. If I had "given it another shot" every time my "gut" told me something, I would have bought and sold 50 Telecasters and Les Pauls by now. It doesn't matter how good they sound, I don't want to play either for more than 10 minutes at a time. I really like how the body shapes look - and HATE how they feel while I'm playing.
I don't even care anylonger...I'll play my American Fender Strat and buy whatever guitar I want or can buy anyway.
Agreed
Yea, stuff like this cases really shouldn't be considered when you're buying a guitar anyway. Gibson suing Dean's parent company doesn't make the current production Les Pauls any better or worse than they were before the suit was filed.
Agreed...hell,I was feeling that way back before there was anything in the news about the lawsuit,lol
Name brands are inevitable...they will always be around to intice the blind into giving in to there pitch,making there money off people who work hard for it...if you know how to play,and if you know a few tricks on how to make a guitar play&sound good...that's all you need really, fact!🤘😎🤘
@@Aarlog boycotting companies whose morals you disagree with is a separate issue tho
I'm loving this guitar! Got her home, and I could barely put it down. Thank you again!
Albert King. They brought it back cause of Albert King. Albert King was notorious for his Gibson Flying V so when he got super popular the brought it back.
Albert has posthumously just last week become even more notorious for having his main V being a Dan Erlewine copy.
Cool story on Albert's Vs here:
www.vintageguitar.com/3813/albert-kings-flying-vs/
It doesn’t matter. A Gibson Flying V is a Gibson Flying V. The others just aren’t. Not saying there aren’t great if not better Vs out there. But, as they say, only a Gibson is a Gibson.
Only an iPhone is an iPhone and only a Nike shoe is a Nike shoe but it really doesn't matter to guitar players.
Brand doesn't matter anymore. Never shouldve really. Anyone can turn a cheap guitar into a monster with a little work and a little extra cash.
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my friend showed me your videos around a week ago and i’ve really been enjoying what i’ve seen so far on your channel. always super informative, entertaining, and you never seem to cut corners on giving the information in the video, the david gilmour collection video is a really good example. it was like an hour long but you kept me both engaged, entertained and fascinated and would give all known info about the guitars. keep it up dude!!
I love your channel! I even watch the videos that highlight guitars that I would never play, like this one, because of your entire presentation process. Thanks!
Hendrix called it the 'flying angel'....
@G. V. Q - right.....but, he did play the V quite a lot in late 69 through 70.....and actually even earlier, here and there....serious Hendrix fans know about Jimi playing Vs, Les Pauls, Les Paul jr., Martin acoustic.....Fender most of the time for sure....i even saw a pic of Jimi in the studio playing a Mosrite
@@jasonlee8497 And the SG Custom, maybe was still called the Les Paul Custom at the time. But he got that in 68, most likely 69 because he used it on Dick Cavett in 69.
I have an Epiphone version of it but it's really shit. I switched to 8 gauge strings because I play with a light touch, hoping that would fix most of the issues.
@Naki Ryan Thanks I've forgotten. His model was a 67 and indeed his custom Flying V was a beauty.
I don't think Albert King got a custom one either until he found a local builder who custom built his bespoke. Forgot the builder name.
Played a V in the studio on the first Hendrix recording of All Along The Watchtower. There are photo's to back up this claim, from the time, and of Jimi playing it in the studio. But, like most things Hendrix, there are conflicting reports with other people saying they remember it differently. Dont matter to me that much, I love Jimi Hendrix and Gibson flying V's, so I like to think its true.
I got so lucky...an older man placed an ad on Craigslist with such bad pictures and vague descriptions that i think nobody replied. Also, the price on the flying v was $750 so people might've thought it was an Epiphone. I contacted him anyhow. The Flying v is a 2016 Pro T with the Zebra pickups and he said it's still had the original strings on it and only played it 4 or 5 times. So i gave him his asking price and dang, no stripped screws, no cut wires, no scratches, it's like a brand new guitar! This year they had no pick guard but had binding on the body and neck and it's smaller than normal. Every fret nib is still there and there's zero wear on the frets. I can't believe my luck because i found the same deal on a 2008 LP Studio with the most flamed maple body I've ever seen on a studio and perfect jet black ebony fretboard in original case for $800. Lucky! But i do check Craigslist almost every day....
"Henry has left the chat" .. lol.
One can clearly see all the hard work/time you put in your videos. Great one as always.
That hot bridge pickup sounds terrific! Love the extra treble in the middle position while clean and it's archetypically thrash metal when driven.
9:55 I have played guitar for over 40 years. I have never understood why people sit with guitars rested on the top of their leg instead of letting the bottom bout fall naturally between their legs. It makes the instrument so much easier to control if you are sitting in a natural position instead of thinking, "Oh man, I have a guitar in my hands now, so I have to twist my back slightly and make my hands move to some slightly off position." Maybe a Flying V would help them to learn to sit with the instrument more efficiently?
Because it doesn't look cool)
The Epiphone Korina version looks great, but I've never played one, to get the "hands-on" experience.
I have an Epi Korina v. mines an 04 model. Only complaint is, it is neck heavy, thats because the neck is maple. It is one of the best sounding guitars i have ever played. Not a bad guitar for $450
Flew right into my heart
man when you came in on the dirty tone,that sounded awesome!!~
The European Court has been known to rule against copyright claims lately. They also denied McDonald's the trademark to the Big Mac. Im Not sure this ruling will be indicative of Gibson v Dean.
I'm no legal expert nor am I American but I don't think American courts take foreign precedents into consideration.
Bucky Ò'Donnaighle no of course not. My point was that beyond that, the European Court tends to not accept older copyright claims and the American courts will likely rule differently.
@@gr3g0r5 I agree with you.
I've always thought the Dean V is better looking. I guess that's why I own one.
Craig Hardee you hardly get any in europe atm cos of that whole gibson dean mess. im pissed cos i want a dean v and all the big shops dont have it anylonger it seems...just selling the left ones
Dean guitars look like total shit lol
@@doffendoffenson4917 are you sure? an ML is the coolest design a guitar could have
The Head stocks look horrible imo, the only exception is the Dave Mustaine signature
This is my favorite guitar in the world. I have a 2008 Faded Flying V in Cherry, and it just sings. Most comfortable neck I've ever played. It's their hybrid 50s/60s neck, thicker towards the nut, and thinner towards the heel
Good show Trogly
Great video! where is the Flying V now? My brother was head luthier at Gibson's "Custom Shop" in Nashville, Tenn for many years and in the late 80s they made an exact copy of the Flying V and my brother painted all of them in all different colors and themes
including Jimi's original theme! there were only 50 made and sold immediately!
That clean G maj. chord on Middle sounds awesome
I am a fan of the channel. Not necessarily agree with all your views but I've learned alot about the Gibson brand never the less. I'll keep watching cause you do a good job showcasing the instrument
u should get a dean v for the lawlz
I've been trying to get a vintage Dean... I'm close on a Z
@@Trog how about ml?))
All joking aside Dean makes great guitars!
My Z is my main hardtail guitar.
Hey Trogley... You do a great job. You are the man for information on Gibson Guitars... Thanks for sharing your interest and learning experiences.
I dont know about you guys but to nme, the first company to get the Flying V right were the Jackson King V...
That's just about all i would like in a V.
Neckthru
Slim neck
Flat radius board
24 frets
Floyd Rose.
What's not to like.
I dont mind Gibson V's but to me they are kind of limiting in plaing compered to a Jackson or B.C. Rich V.
Just my opion...
also Jackson and BC Rich mostly have the 25,5" scale, which I prefer over the Gibson scale
No floyd for me. bc rich Vs are guitars for the kids in school that hold pencils with their whole fists, also a no from me
Nu finish scratch dr would remove a good amount of those light scratches btw. I just used that On some of my old guitars and it shined them up like a mirror!
Great vid as always man, I so wish you could get hold of a 2015 flying v to tear apart and review. Gibson only made so many and just for the Japanese market only! One day I hope to own a V and I've always liked the look of these 2015 models especially the white ones😍✌
This is great!!! V fan since The Kinks played Shin Dig. Ray Davies needed a guitar since his was lost with the airlines. Drop by a So Cali shop and buy essentially a prop , a '58 Korina v for i believe $100 !!! I saw him with the rightr arm in the fork. Never forgot it. The Gibson Flying V book is cool,
Andy Powell, Michael S, Mercyful Fate oh and that KH guy from Cali ;) Garage Days !!!
RR Sr here thank fully and a dean style Cort. No type II here but should have bought that Dean MS Retro (w/b,b/w) for $549. Last i saw, they are out..
I remember Dave Davies playing a V on "Top of the Pops", again with his arm through the V. I must admit I thought it looked like a prosthetic-type aid for people with funny arms (and the most horrible middle parting). I would never have bought even a Jappo-Crappo copy.
@@Ndlanding Thanks i think,
Paul Gilbert and the Doppler dude are fans of vintage Ibanezes.
That guitar goes up for auction in a few weeks through Heritage Auctions. Hasn't been owned by Dave for years, though. Still one of his iconic guitars, just because of it's early TV appearances.
The 2019 version with the Burstbucker 2 & 3 are awesome sounding guitars. I love the shape but they are a pain to play without standing up.
Michael Schenker's influence led me to the V in 81 and I've never looked back. Love Strats too but the V is tops for me by a long shot
My 58 re issue has a lot of neck dive how can I move the straps to fix it
its pretty looking AND sounding.
I'm not sure about those vibrola vibratos. I'd probably buy a tunamatic and get a Duesenberg Les Trem after market vibrato. Thanks for the video.
When you said kinda thin concerning the neck, did you mean thin for a Bee or thin for a 70's Gibson?
I have an epiphone Flying V that I believe is a 1991, but I’m not 100% sure. This Flying V resonates into the neck and throughout the body. The best guitar I’ve ever picked up. But sadly, it does have a big finish crack around where the neck and body connect. I hope it’s just a finish crack. But this guitar stays inside, so I’m not too worried about further damage.
Something I've had difficulty ascertaining is if the pickups being mounted into the pickguard along with the electronics and switch makes it impossible for you to swap out the pickups if you decide to install some of your own choosing.
It makes no difference, in fact if you remove the ground wire from the bridge the pickguard is completely free and you can work on it easier.
I hope that holds true for any guitar in which the pickups are mounted in the guard. Thank you@@gypana.
Since you know about this particular guitar I want to ask you something if someone were to put this guitars design in a video game would the person get copyrighted or no
Time to review a Gibson Jimi Hendrix hall of fame V! I have one, its nice!
Sounds wicked!
I have a 1961 version I was given it by my uncle before he passed away
It's fully working is it worth a lot and what is the best way to sell it
I'm in the UK by the way
I love almost everything about the V guitar. The shape the sounds the neck. I’m just not a standing up player. I love sitting down and tearing up a guitar. I’m just not comfortable playing a V sitting down.
Timothy Cormier for me it’s the most natural and comfortable guitar to play sitting down
hmmm a Scarred V is in order!
Damn straight
Lol, I'm sure it'll turn out great
PS I love your videos
That'd be awesome to see \m/
love the flying v's... esp. the pin stripe designer series from the mid 80's. lol 1984 ish maybe.
It does not matter when other companies made it better.
great upload, but for me and this is for me, Gibson's quality started to go down hill back in the 90's so i switched between my fenders and gretsch and i must say i am much happier especially with my gretsch!
Could you talk about the Lawsuit Gibson had with JHS/Vintage some time back?
Flying v's or more properly said flying A's always have dings on the headstock and the two ends. My guess is it's because when you hold one and especially if you close your eyes they feel smaller than they actually are.
The fact that it has acrylic inlays and a rosewood fretboard puts me off. If I'm gonna be paying the money for a Gibson, I expect a higher standard than that.
Gibson didn't trademark the V shape till 1997 - about 20 years after Dean started making Vs.
Flying V is trademark (U.S. Reg. No. 2051790)
If Gibson had gone after Dean/anyone else making a v WHEN THEY STARTED then they might have had a point.
But Gibson did not trademark/patent/copyright it.
If you do not protect your intellectual property then it's open season - anyone can copy it.
If you invent something - whatever it is, doesn't matter - in the USA you get 20 years patent protection, from the moment your application is filed.
But Gibson waited FORTY YEARS after creating the flying V before applying for a trademark.
You can invent graphene or a cure for all know diseases or a nuclear powered groin massager - you get the rights to exploit it for twenty years - or not. But twenty years is it.
In the case of graphene the inventors decided to not protect their IP because they thought it was for the benefit of humankind. Same with the inventor of the internet.
My point - Gibson trademarked their IP twenty years after someone else started to produce a similar product, which was about twenty years after Gibson first produced it.
Gibson lost in Europe because they failed to protect their IP and wanted to stop other people producing something that had become a historical part of their inventory - and knowing Framus - a better quality version at that.
You can't backdate IP - that'd be like Ford trying to copyright the motor car and claim dues for all the cars made since 1900 (not a proper analogy - but just as ludicrous).
It's not as if Gibson was one man making guitars in his shed in 1958 - they were a proper company and knew the rules on protecting IP.
This is not just a European thing - IP is the same in Europe as it is in the USA. There are minor differences eg length of time authors have copyright for but that's about it.
Out of all the claims Gibson has out at the moment the only one (that I know of) that is actually reasonable is the Hummingbird acoustic one, where someone else is using the name.
That's stealing goodwill accrued by the name.
Even with the Hummingbird name you could maybe argue that it is just a name of a bird species and not original enough to trademark. But i also think its unneccesary to use it on another guitar than the Gibson one, i mean come up with something new, its just a name !
Navigator and Edwards are so nice, though.
My v is my main guitar, the only thing that I have a hard time with is playing behind my head other then that best guitar I have. Dimebucker, orange th30, vintage 30's 🤘🤪
I like the so-called "short" headstock on the '76-'81 Flying V... and I don't like them without the pickup mounting rings... they look naked without the mounting rings. And being an Accept fan... it has to be the sought after highly collectible white. It's ridiculous what Gibson wants for a Custom Shop reissue of one of these late '70's spec V's. You can almost find an original in decent condition for what those highway robbers at Gibson want.
Yep
At 1:30, what is the name of that guitar? I love that look.
its a guitar made for Powerwolf band by Framus but i think this one is just a prototype, cause ones they have look a bit different
whats that flying v at 1:31? that looks right up my alley.
My god thats beautiful
The entire v shape is different I put a 67 over a 58 while having both in at a shop I ran. The 58 v has wider wings
this does help the dean case though I think
I can testify that Edwards plays authentic!
Edwards are amazing guitars.
I think it doesnt really matter if they lost it. Those who want a real V will still buy a Gibson.
Dean Vs are not real? They seem to occupy physical space and make sounds to me.
Its 2019, there are so many better options today.
The best V player who ever lived by far is Michael Schenker, he can play any brand he wants and he prefers the Deans.
@@BluesLicks101 yup. Lol
im on to my 4th gibson v, i always end up selling them, but ive had a cherry 67 ri, identical to the one in this video, same year too! and its the best guitar ive played. if you can get your hands on a 2004-6 gibson V, nab it. far better than the late 90s models, and far better than the 2008 upward models
Are they any good for playing whilst sat down?
I would love to see other guitar makers sell Gibson style guitars in America. I feel that competition would push Gibson to build a better product. They don't cost 2.5k because they have to.
wow saw this last night in guitar world and this news was very funny cuz the eu dudes are the most passive agressive and mind changers in the world
You had one job, Gibson. Make great guitars at reasonable prices. Now you've fallen flat on your face.
They still make great guitars and they are far from flat on their face. All they are doing is protecting their company so that they can continue making great guitars in the future, just like ALL of the main guitar companies who are fighting off all these foreign sourced guitars that are selling so cheaply. People say those foreign guitars are just as good as a Gibson, probably have never owned a Gibson or just hate Gibson no matter what. ALL of these foreign sourced guitars will not last as long and be as much a quality instrument as a true Gibson either.
Same old out of date crap they have been making for the past 60 years at over inflated prices. Quality control went down the toilet years ago, so there's no reason to pay top dollar for substandard shite.
Their guitars have had good quality recently but their prices are still too much in my opinion, sure they’re great but they’re still overpriced
@@alabamahebrew
Didn't they just go bankrupt?
@@alabamahebrew They're so far from it that they went bankrupt and now are KKR's slaves.
Then foreign guitars doesn't mean Chibson. Eastman does make better instrument than Gibson now, and that juste one exemple.
I'm a Gibson owner, and I like the ones I have, but let's be honnest... When "authenticity" is your main selling point, it says quite a lot about the other aspects.
In 1978 one of my Band Mates showed up with a 1971 Medallion Flying V. He paid the princely sum of $400 for it.
He ended up beating the heck out of that guitar, he even used it to punch the blown speakers out of a 4x12 cabinet I was using. If we had only known then how much that guitar would eventually be worth..............
HK Guitar Oh man! The good old days! Yeah, guitars like that, and Gibsons in general, started to be abandoned and cheap cuz everyone started to buy whatever EVH was playing. The pisser for me was, I couldn’t even afford 400 dollars! Lol!
@@seatstitcher3636 Yeah, it would have taken me a long time to save up cash like that back then. If I remember correctly some money was owed and the guitar was used to settle a debt.
I wish I'd held on to all the guitars that have passed through my hands over the years.
@@hkguitar1984 ..cool story
@@wesleyalan9179 Yeah, one of the few stories from back then that are appropriate for re-telling!
@@hkguitar1984 ...Hahaha,Right On!
Never owned one but always fancied a V. Are they any good for being played whilst sat down?
Being a V player myself since many years now i actually think i even prefer it to any other design sitting down. As described in the video you stradle the V on your
right leg so that the lower part goes under the leg and the upper V part over the leg.
@@Stefan- thanks. I mainly just play at home nowadays & I've got a few other models so if wasn't comfortable to play sat down, it's unlikely it'd get much use. Cheers
I love that Classic V body style but I'm a Maple fret board Fan . Who makes a traditional V body with a Maple fret board anyone know ? In the sub $500 dollar pricing market preferably ?
I don't like the way the fretboard is set into the body on that '67 re-issue. It looks wrong to me.
I much prefer the look where the body starts at the end of the fretboard/22nd fret.
Michael Schenker is my fav Flyin V guitarist
AMEN!
Great player ! Plays Dean V´s now since many years, has his own signature models.
Looks like a great guitar. At least I can make Flying Vs without a impending lawsuit one-day.
I'm still waiting for guitar shaped like a racoon.
That makes two of us
northy Land will you name it Rocky?
I'd name it Felix.
@@northyland1157 Don't know if you ever heard it, but I was alluding to The Beatles' Rocky Racoon song, ha.
Hey!
I have an 05 explorer in the same color
I only ever had one Vee. It was a Randy Rhoads polka dot one made by the guy that makes them for Zakk Wylde (not the Jackson style one). Ugly as eff headstock that looks like a harpoon, but it had an amazing playing neck. One of the best I have ever had. When I got a spinal injury and was laid up I could not play it, so it got sold. I play a Les Paul sitting in a recliner chair with the leg rest up so i am half laying down to play. Not ergonomic, but the only way I can play for a decent amount of time before getting too sore. No way could I play a Vee like that.
I was on a Randy Rhoads binge learning all his parts back then. I had the Vee, a Les Paul, a MXR Dist+ and 10 band EQ and a DSL100 that I traded for a 1959RR. The Randy amp took six months to arrive and blew up the next day. I got a refund and moved on to learning Jake E Lee parts. Then I put EMGs in my Les Paul and began on Zakk parts. I am on a Jimmy Page binge now so have Whole Lotta Humbucker pups in my LP now (they are actually very, very nice sounding). I like doing deep dive studies of different players and stealing their licks and stuff to make them my own.
I want another SG, but also a Firebird. I dunno though. i do not like having to look after several guitars and keep fresh strings on them all. Just one gat makes life simple.
I've got a set of those, I got them at a greatly reduced price but I haven't put them in anything yet. Curiously, I was thinking about putting them in a V, 'cos I've never owned one & always fancied getting one. What's your verdict on them please? How do they compare to other pups you've used? Cheers
I bet is noise under high gain. No conductive paint on all routed cavities. No locking tuners, no fully shielded pickguard. 1400 or more new and Gibson does not bother to do the extra work to shield it properly, and add better tuners. I had to all of that to mine.
First, nice guitar and some sharp playing there! Now, if Gibson does not own the shape of a V, dogs, cats, unicorns and flying monkeys are sleeping together....which legally is OK, as long as they have been doing it for a long time and nobody busted them before now....
didn't they lose a lawsuit to prs on the single cut body years ago? They also own companies that make strat copies so all is fair game right? If they made a better product they wouldn't have anything to worry about.
The V was designed for country western players. The idea was , having strung it high, to put arm through bouts of the "v" shape.
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Just MAAAAADE for distortion!!!! God I love a Flying V.
in the mid 90s I could of got a flying v for $50 im kicking myself still to this day for not getting it.
I wish I could afford it!
why don't they make them in this pick guard style anymore?
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I've played those Flying V copies Dean Jackson etc and in my opinion the Gibson is the best flying V. Unlike the Les Paul where the G never stays in tune the V does.
I don't like the rounded edges on the points. I like pointy Vs
Ain't that a kick in the ass for Gibson!
I would love it if Gibson and Fender and pretty much all guitar company's lost all their trademarks/patents based on body shape. Then I would love to see them stop there price fixing, I mean calling it Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) doesn't make it any less price fixing. It is one of the biggest reasons why they can get away with selling their guitars for god awful amounts of money. So If those two changes happened, the prices would come down, and Gibson and Fender would have competition in the market the way it is intended.
If you don't know why I call (MAP) price fixing its because it forces outlets to keep the price high and not to compete with one another. Fender will set the MAP to some high number, then the businesses cant advertise a price lower than that. This is the reason why every businesses offers to price match guitars, its because they require you to find a advertised price lower than the price they are offering. The odds are extremely low you will find a lower price, as all outlets have to agree with the MAP before Fender or Gibson will sell to them. Over time Gibson or Fender ect. get to set the MAP and they rarely ever bring that price down, and when they do they don't drop the price by anything that would be acceptable as a price drop. So it sets the price, and yes you can go into the store or use the "Chat" function on the sellers websites, or even through email and get a lower price. But if you do not know about MAP and your trying to get a good deal, you will find that no matter where you buy that wonderful guitar, they all will lower the price by the same amounts. So no matter where you buy the guitar, you will get the same price. Thus MAP takes away competition, and you the consumer gets the bad end of the deal.
So, get rid of MAP in the U.S. and watch the prices on these guitars come down. If you get rid of these stupid patents on body shapes, then you can have smaller company''s who charge way less for their products putting out Les Paul's shaped guitars that do not have to look goofy or SG shape body's that do not have to look goofy. The only part of these patents these company's should keep, is there names. So if some knockoff company makes a SG and puts the Gibson Logo on it, they are just counterfeiting and get sued and stopped. But if they put their own name on it, then its just another SG style guitar... Just picture your favorite brand making LP's and SG's and Strats and Telecaster shaped guitars. Then we would all see who makes the better guitar for real. :)
That was a long rant, congrats on reading it lol. Good luck and stay safe who ever you are :)
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I can't wait to see trogly get some esp guitar on his UA-cam channel lol
What if you bring a Navigator or Edwards guitar to the United States?
Plenty of people do, I don't think the law applies to individual imports, but they can't be sold as retail guitars.
Gibson's mistake. They invented it in '58 and didn't trademark it immediately and then aggressively pursue legal action against infringers consistently through the years.
The principle is that if you don't defend your trademarks and copyrights, you lose them.
The V is a fantastic design for a musical instrument. All symmetrical bodies have better vibrational characteristics than non-symmetrical bodies.
I think the US lawsuit largely "hangs" on the fact that Gibson (Norlin-era) did nothing to stop Hamer and Dean from using their body shapes in the mid-to-late 1970s. And even back then, they could only go after Ibanez (Hoshino Gakki) for infringing on the trademark for the shape of the headstock.
Henry Juszkiewicz let years go by under his "leadership" before he did anything to address these issues. Probably was too busy playing Monopoly with bank loans... I think it took him almost one and a half decades to go after Fernandes in Japan - totally unsuccessfully. Then in 2005, Gibson embarrassed themself in front of the entire world with the "a PRS singlecut could be mistaken for a Les Paul, no really, somebody could totally want a Les Paul and _accidentally_ buy a PRS instead, really, please believe us..." fiasco. They'll never get rid of the stink that left on their reputation as a _serious business._
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Why isn't the serial number visble on the one in my local pawnshop.....it's not a fake....
"The Amos". If it hadn't been for Amos Arthur, perhaps the flying V may have completely disappeared from existence, period. Don't believe me??? Just go ask Joe Bonamassa.
Norm had that one sitting in his warehouse for 40 years, makes you wonder what else is stashed back there. Apparently Albert King lost his 58 Flying V gambling in the 60s but I can't find anything on whether it's ever surfaced since then. If it does I hope Joe gets his hands on it as most of King's other Vs (including a custom 1972 Dan Erlewhine one that Joe played on the 3 Kings tour) are owned by Steve Regal. Cheers
@@buckodonnghaile4309 Sometimes I wish YT allowed pictures, because I have a picture of Amos Arthur at his music store in Indianapolis with one of the original V's back in the late 50's.
Honestly, not really. I've wanted an ebony '67 reissue style Flying V for a few decades now, and I still want an actual Gibson. I don't think I'd be satisfied with even an Epiphone. So, even though I could buy a V from any number of other brands, the ownership of the trademark doesn't mean a damned thing to me.
Why dont people just slightly change the shape and make it their own instead of copying?
Love my amos
Not your favorite... but... it's on your shirt ;) Sorry, couldn't resist :)
Good point! It was the only free stock guitar photo when I designed it haha. I’m in need of new shirts soon!
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Its pronounced phonetically as Worik Trog not War wik. No worries though Austin mate. Its all good. ;) Stay safe man.