The issue for most amateurs is that most tee boxes on your local course are not evenly flat, where as on championship courses most if not all are evenly flat. It doesn’t matter where your position is on the tee box as an amateur if your ball is slightly above or below your feet. Ultimately you need to be on a level plain in order to hit the best shots off the tee
@@BB-vy6igit’s more of a muni issue but chambers bay allows tee boxes for the US Open. They even warned the players about it. This notion tee boxes need to be flat is silly.
I was initially confused by this. I have always hit a left to right ball flight and used the right hand side of the tee. Using the left does feel like I have a smaller target. I drew my own diagram and I the vid is correct in some cases. But, I don’t think all misses are the same. Measuring misses by how many degrees offline they are fails to capture an important part of the tee shot; where it is aimed. (The following is explained using a L-R ball flight) When I drew the diagram I saw that teeing up on the right gives you more margin for error on a miss where you hit your target line, but over fade the ball. Teeing up on the left gives you a bigger margin if for missing the target line. So, you should tee up on different sides depending on the type of miss you usually hit. This was pretty quick analysis so please correct me if i’m mistaken (my scorecards will thank you!)
Is there a written paper/blog post somewhere that details this concept? The conclusion is counter-intuitive to me. By teeing up on the opposite side of your miss area but keeping the target the same, you have effectively made your aim line point closer to the side you are trying to protect against. Is the advantage of starting farther away greater than the disadvantage of a start line that points more toward the miss area? Are there resources that discuss this concept in greater depth?
My thoughts exactly. Something is missing. They stated the norm and logic behind it, and backed it up... then stated a conclusion opposite it without providing the background logic. I don't get it.
I think It’s a general rule of thumb. But is obviously more complicated. Many books have talked about this topic. I for example play a draw mostly. When I’m on this one hole with helping right to left wind, with OB beach right and a bird sanctuary left, I actually tee off on the right side aim right and let the ball go left. I feel I have more space than if I go left and aim right. I feel I can block it. Or hook it quicker into the sanctuary. So the point is things like wind, shot preference, and other factors could change the best strategy for you. Ultimately it makes sense to develop the best strategy for you on each hole you play, including where to tee it up.
Thank you for this video. I preach this to all my students, but most forget the importance of teeing it up on different sides. Nick Price was the best at this, especially during the GC playing lessons by the pros.
This actually confused me. I was always taught if you want to hit the ball left to right, you start on the right hand side of the tee box and if you want to hit the ball right to left, you start on the left hand side of the tee box.
@@dylanhenson7146 they start with that but I felt like the latter part of the video was contradictory. Saying that if there's a left-to-right wind, you should tee off on the left side of the tee box. Would it not be the same principle as hitting a fade where I would want to tee off on the right side of the box so my aim is more to the left part of the fairway?
@@thapeachcobbler Certainly not an expert on this, but I think he is specifically referring to instances of strong crosswinds where the ball will be moving heavily to one direction. If the ball is going to move heavily to the right by the time it lands, especially if you hit a consistent fade, you want to give yourself as much space to the left as possible. It isn't going to fit your "eye" as well, but you probably need to tee up further left and aim further left in these situations, which gives you hypothetically the best chance of finding fairway.
Go to 2:48 and he explains the pivot to the opposite strategy ‘the problem is, most holes aren’t straightforward’. Agree though, I had to watch it twice to catch it.
For my slice ive always(usually) gone to the right side and aimed left …thinking is , if i slice theres a chance it wont make it into the right woods when taking off towards left edge ..and , if i hit the dreaded straight ball theres a chance im in the first cUt or not to far in the left rough …. Problem is lately i cant even depend on my slice and ill occasionally snap hook that left aimed Ball 😂
So... pros generally tee it up on the same side as their miss, thus aiming at the same point gives them a greater miss buffer... however, we shouldn't because... we now know better? Direction unclear. Please try again. Which one are we supposed to do? You skipped a few logic steps in the middle somewhere.
Bottom line is, teeing it up on the same side creates more angle. But it up on the opposite side can create literally more yards the ball must cross to reach trouble.
Can someone explain all the divots in the middle of the tee box? lol, I doubt all players are using the strategy. I think the strategy comes into play when you have to factor your shot vs hole layout and obstacles which is different for everyone.
I feel like this didn’t make any sense. I also feel like the advice changed mid video even before the section about wind. This is probably why I can’t get better than an 18 handicap
2:48 ‘good advice on straightforward holes, the problem is most holes aren’t straight forward’ Basically follow that advice but if the hole has severe trouble one side, tee up the opposite side to the severe trouble to make your miss buffer, in absolute terms, much wider.
But you are articles are the best, but maybe some more related to the average handicap 12-22 really it is that high!, tour pros are a complete different story
Hitting the same shot shape every time leads to more predictable and controllable misses. Hitting a straight ball all the time makes you more susceptible to hit BOTH left AND right misses. That makes course management much tougher
@@xTRUExiNsANiTYx Disagree on the "misses" aspect. Over the years I've learned that always playing straight and rarely going right or left, vs never consistent draw/fade even at the pro level, allows for much better control of the course and game. They just can't hit is straight consistently, so they just call it "controlled fade or draw". Gotta admit tho', nothing quite like a beautiful draw in flight. Appreciate your thoughts.
@@wdilkslmao. So you think you can hit a more consistent straight ball than literal touring pros? That’s hilarious. Sure, don’t believe what the best players in the world, along with their caddies and coaches say. It’s definitely because the best players in the world can’t hit the ball as straight as some hacker in the UA-cam comments
Please keep doing these videos. Best on YT
The issue for most amateurs is that most tee boxes on your local course are not evenly flat, where as on championship courses most if not all are evenly flat.
It doesn’t matter where your position is on the tee box as an amateur if your ball is slightly above or below your feet. Ultimately you need to be on a level plain in order to hit the best shots off the tee
Couldn't have said it better myself 😂
Half of my tee boxes are “temporarily” limited to like 15 inches anyway so you don’t have any room to make a difference lol
What kind of goat track doesn't have reasonably level boxes? Been playing for 25 years and I don't remember running into this issue once.
You can actually use this to your advantage
@@BB-vy6igit’s more of a muni issue but chambers bay allows tee boxes for the US Open. They even warned the players about it.
This notion tee boxes need to be flat is silly.
Ha! You guys thought I have a stock shot
You do. Ten yards topped
Ten ANGRY yards topped.
I was initially confused by this. I have always hit a left to right ball flight and used the right hand side of the tee. Using the left does feel like I have a smaller target.
I drew my own diagram and I the vid is correct in some cases. But, I don’t think all misses are the same. Measuring misses by how many degrees offline they are fails to capture an important part of the tee shot; where it is aimed.
(The following is explained using a L-R ball flight) When I drew the diagram I saw that teeing up on the right gives you more margin for error on a miss where you hit your target line, but over fade the ball. Teeing up on the left gives you a bigger margin if for missing the target line. So, you should tee up on different sides depending on the type of miss you usually hit.
This was pretty quick analysis so please correct me if i’m mistaken (my scorecards will thank you!)
This is how I’ve used for long long time. I hit a L-R shot ,If I teed it onthe right side ,I can aim more left in some hole.
Is there a written paper/blog post somewhere that details this concept? The conclusion is counter-intuitive to me. By teeing up on the opposite side of your miss area but keeping the target the same, you have effectively made your aim line point closer to the side you are trying to protect against. Is the advantage of starting farther away greater than the disadvantage of a start line that points more toward the miss area? Are there resources that discuss this concept in greater depth?
My thoughts exactly. Something is missing. They stated the norm and logic behind it, and backed it up... then stated a conclusion opposite it without providing the background logic. I don't get it.
I think It’s a general rule of thumb. But is obviously more complicated.
Many books have talked about this topic.
I for example play a draw mostly. When I’m on this one hole with helping right to left wind, with OB beach right and a bird sanctuary left, I actually tee off on the right side aim right and let the ball go left. I feel I have more space than if I go left and aim right. I feel I can block it. Or hook it quicker into the sanctuary.
So the point is things like wind, shot preference, and other factors could change the best strategy for you. Ultimately it makes sense to develop the best strategy for you on each hole you play, including where to tee it up.
Thank you for this video. I preach this to all my students, but most forget the importance of teeing it up on different sides. Nick Price was the best at this, especially during the GC playing lessons by the pros.
Is there anyone else in love with this giys voice ??!! Best golf videos on UA-cam !!
His voice actually aggravates me! But… brilliant content.
Where to Tee up on the courses I play is determined by finding the flattest part of the box.
Please more game plan videos. Help me understand and decrease my points with about 10 shots. lol
Thanks guy. Video well done. 👍🏽
So right hand, hit a draw, start on left side. Hit a fade start on right side?
This actually confused me. I was always taught if you want to hit the ball left to right, you start on the right hand side of the tee box and if you want to hit the ball right to left, you start on the left hand side of the tee box.
That's right. Skip to 1:29 in the video
@@dylanhenson7146 they start with that but I felt like the latter part of the video was contradictory. Saying that if there's a left-to-right wind, you should tee off on the left side of the tee box. Would it not be the same principle as hitting a fade where I would want to tee off on the right side of the box so my aim is more to the left part of the fairway?
I agreed with this too.
@@thapeachcobbler Certainly not an expert on this, but I think he is specifically referring to instances of strong crosswinds where the ball will be moving heavily to one direction. If the ball is going to move heavily to the right by the time it lands, especially if you hit a consistent fade, you want to give yourself as much space to the left as possible. It isn't going to fit your "eye" as well, but you probably need to tee up further left and aim further left in these situations, which gives you hypothetically the best chance of finding fairway.
Go to 2:48 and he explains the pivot to the opposite strategy ‘the problem is, most holes aren’t straightforward’.
Agree though, I had to watch it twice to catch it.
I assumed people just did this instinctively, it’s so much nicer on the eyes teeing up far right to hit a cut
For my slice ive always(usually) gone to the right side and aimed left …thinking is , if i slice theres a chance it wont make it into the right woods when taking off towards left edge ..and , if i hit the dreaded straight ball theres a chance im in the first cUt or not to far in the left rough …. Problem is lately i cant even depend on my slice and ill occasionally snap hook that left aimed Ball 😂
So... pros generally tee it up on the same side as their miss, thus aiming at the same point gives them a greater miss buffer... however, we shouldn't because... we now know better? Direction unclear. Please try again. Which one are we supposed to do? You skipped a few logic steps in the middle somewhere.
Bottom line is, teeing it up on the same side creates more angle. But it up on the opposite side can create literally more yards the ball must cross to reach trouble.
Can someone explain all the divots in the middle of the tee box? lol, I doubt all players are using the strategy. I think the strategy comes into play when you have to factor your shot vs hole layout and obstacles which is different for everyone.
Can someone please explain miss buffer? This doesnt make sense to me. Teeing left gives you more room right? How?
I feel like this didn’t make any sense. I also feel like the advice changed mid video even before the section about wind. This is probably why I can’t get better than an 18 handicap
2:48 ‘good advice on straightforward holes, the problem is most holes aren’t straight forward’
Basically follow that advice but if the hole has severe trouble one side, tee up the opposite side to the severe trouble to make your miss buffer, in absolute terms, much wider.
I’m just out here tryna find the most flat area of the tee box so I’m not playing a drive 6 inches above my feet 😅
But you are articles are the best, but maybe some more related to the average handicap 12-22 really it is that high!, tour pros are a complete different story
He lost the hole right there? That is false...
He lost the playoff
One problem is that amateurs can't consistently hit shots like pros😅
I think these guys just can't hit it straight, so they compensate by calling a "fade" or a "draw" all of the time.
Hitting the same shot shape every time leads to more predictable and controllable misses. Hitting a straight ball all the time makes you more susceptible to hit BOTH left AND right misses. That makes course management much tougher
@@xTRUExiNsANiTYx Disagree on the "misses" aspect. Over the years I've learned that always playing straight and rarely going right or left, vs never consistent draw/fade even at the pro level, allows for much better control of the course and game. They just can't hit is straight consistently, so they just call it "controlled fade or draw". Gotta admit tho', nothing quite like a beautiful draw in flight. Appreciate your thoughts.
@@wdilkslmao. So you think you can hit a more consistent straight ball than literal touring pros? That’s hilarious. Sure, don’t believe what the best players in the world, along with their caddies and coaches say. It’s definitely because the best players in the world can’t hit the ball as straight as some hacker in the UA-cam comments