Hopes For The New DBFZ Patch
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- With a new patch on the horizon, here's what I'm hoping they change in the new version of DBFZ coming after evo.
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The thing abt vegito A is if they get any more hitstun, the defensive vegito A players are gonna take that and run a mile with it. I'd say give it it's old hitstun to make it useable again but now it spawns in front of you so it can be used for everything BUT defensive calls
Can make it like GT A where it takes a while to do the attack, makes you counter call easier. Appears in front of you as well
Vegito A was a war crime, do NOT bring it back
do not EVER return that war crime back to the game, they gotta hold that shit FOREVER
It was one of the best assists in the game. Easily. But it’s a ki blast… literally the easiest kind of assist to deal with. Unless you were playing at the highest level, people sucked at calling it. 5 years of complaining got it utterly nerfed into oblivion. People could have been learning how to play against it that whole time… instead of wining about their inability to block in neutral.
I think they should revert all the character meter nerfs cuz it just seemed lazy but you can adjust the meter gain and scaling of certain moves.
i just wanna play the game without it crashing every 3 minutes
Also true, stop happening to me when it became winter here, maybe cpu temperature or ram associated
Ionk bro that might js be a personal problem 😭
TRUE dog I guaranteed I’ve had more crashes with this game more then game crashes in my life
this one might be a personal problem homie, DBFZ crashes less for me than Valo, SF6, or fucking Roblox sometimes. Me in Texas with dog shit fans.
PC "master race" problems 😂
I think they should take the knockdown aspect away from C assists period they ridiculously annoying for the casual players and not fun to fight because they are usually the ones that hunt you down from fullscreen
This. C assist players are straight garbage.
Hopes for a future update (90% not gonna happen) EVERY character has a level 7, a level 5, or at least one new level 3. I really enjoyed the new level 3 majin 21 got.
More probable outcome, whenever you get a special ko, for example, z broly's level 3 the zoomout of whatever planet, whenever a character dies to it, the explosion is orange/yellow where it should be pure green. (Simple minor color changes to supers) Lab coat 21's 2nd level 3, (not the stab, the ki blast super) it should be red/black on destructive finish
All i want is to see Super Broly getting some love, bro has been B tier since release
just give him a - 5 2l and we are cooking
Make piccolo's dash elbow at any version (holding the button down) invincible to beams and ki blasts (not assists). And the light version of his chop move -in the air- should cause a ground bounce that allows him to do a super (except hellzone). The orb should have the same hitstun of the assist version for his normal one and medium chop should be faster on the air. That's it.
His elbow move REALLY needs that invincibility because it’s kind of a nothing move to be brutally honest. It would help him in neutral as well.
I agree with reversing the meter gain nerf. I never liked it and it feels like a lazy way to try and balance a character.
Janemba didn't deserve that fr 😂
@@itscoolthough419If any Character didn’t deserve it, it would be Hit because his combos mid screen are nonexistent and he before the nerf was meter dependent
@@mastrsonic375 yea him neither
Big agree. So many interesting ways to refine characters. But they wanted to take lunch early or something.
Vegito was a battery since he came out. As things changed he was less special in that way. But those lazy changes just removed the purpose of playing him.
I was wondering why a bunch of casuals was using triple c assist like crazy 😂😂😂. The buffed c-assist and I never knew that
The 5 years of constant nerfs and buffs teaches us that.... it is impossible to please everyone. Perfection is impossible to attain. Cell learned this years ago. 🤣
Fix UI Goku’s corner combo 😭
Ngl that's the least of his problems rn especially since there's an alternative just give him more damage when ur at it
@@torankusu3445Bring back old A assist too.
Kid buu needs the 17 treatment (give him a new move), I be forgetting he’s in the game sometimes
I’d argue Nappa needs it. He has no Neutral on his own so his saibamen are his only way of having any shot in Neutral.
Than they gotta nerf the effectiveness of their attacks. The resets and the pressure they generate are insane. I get that he needs better neutral, but if that's the case, nerf his advantage state
Great stuff cloud. As usual we’re pretty much on the same page
my only wish is that i can make a team that doesn't require a fusion to have max amounts of fun. To my living legend ass rank that plays no fusions, I only have fun playing this game when no fusions are on the screen.
Arcyyyyyyyyys!!!
Make Yamcha Strong Agaaaain!!!!
AND MY LIFE!!!!!!!
ITS YOURS!!!!!!!
I'd rather they removed the follow up hit from C assists. The tracking is fine, but getting nicked by a C beam or C DP into a full combo is obnoxious.
Reducing the range on a ton of moves seems like the best one on my book but thats the peak of wishful thinking
I hope Fat Buu is near top tier, I don't main him but he is a funny boy to watch
take away cells ex perfect full invul, make gogeta 4s DP have a period where you cannot vanish like every other characters DPs,as a jiren main, make jirens 214s not 2H-able as no other counter in the game can he 2H'd, nerf his 2Ls frame data to like, 8 or 9 frame startup, take away reverse beat, and buff his 214l in some way other than frame data (since that would just be 214H) as currently it is literally just a worse 214s, take away goku gt and vegeta blue invul on their reverse kame and ex grab, this is what id like as a start. also take away all anti-air auto combos. its ridiculous.
also, make it so that you cant SD on beam whiff. hit or block fine, but on whiff is so annoying. And replace videl spot dodge with an actual reflect.
Jiren doesn't need buffs to his counter, dude
@@Jonahv10anything else bro? You want auto qualification to the new world tour finals as well?
@@JusticeGivenFormTbf originally 214S wasn’t 2H able and he’s also nerfing him in the process
@@anonanon1638 damn bro, its not that deep, i play the game a lot so i have a lot of opinions is all.
Remove all meter nerfs and buff Kid Buu, BrolyDBS, and UI goku!
1:10 I may have to hakai for you for that 1st one and mentioning giving Vegito A more hitstun. Thats such a hot take. Gonna have to take a jack of all trades if you DARE to remove the meter gain nerf, scale his damage way more if you bother, leave VTO A as is, increase recovery on EX legs. If you revert those 2 changes on Vegito about his assist and meter, then things will get chaotic for sure. Can't agree on this one. 😱😱
Ginyu B assist glitch needs to be fixed 🙏
What's the glitch?
enlighten us
Tbf That Assist is beyond absurd
bro knows something we don’t 😭
Ight, incase the homie doesn't respond, here's a spark notes version of the glitch: when ginyu B assists, 2 members of the ginyu force come out, when burter and jeice come out together and do purple comet attack and ginyu (I believe) gets tapped/switched out/bumped while purple attack is going, ginyu himself gets soft locked out of his ginyu force calls. He'll only be able to call one out a time due to the specifics of the glitch
The a gohan dp cancels need to go too.
For C assists I think the better ones should just be reverted back to the 15 second cool down timer. Cell C, SSJ Vegeta C, UI Goku C, any that track super jump height should be reverted back.
C assists shouldnt be invul to beams and certain moves. If i walk up and jab your c assist theres no reason it should be more active than my hit causing it to stay out
@@cameroncurtis2135 yea invincible C assists are very annoying, can't do anything against UI C in the air
Side question: we all know how dumb and broken GT Goku invincible zoomies are. So why does no one play him? Even the pros that stick with metas don't play him.
I've had that exact question since they gave that to Gt Goku, I thought we would see a lot of Gt Goku but I don't really see people playing him
Funny how he didn't mention gt goku at all but wants cell to not have a do
What happened to gt goku
He mentioned GT goku at 5:43 very briefly
Everyone has a biased.
Me?
I HATE GT RAT
He's techniques? Wack.
He's invincibility? Wack.
They way that he's so hard to hit? Wack.
Me?!?!? (Yamchad main)
IM TIGHT AF!!!!!!!
@@mfrebel7831 yamcha sucks.
Cell is way better tho, overall
Blue Vegeta can keep his command grab what he needs nerfed is his big bang spam.
I hate they made Base Goku to where his most viable strat is raw super spam that I don't enjoy playing my own main, and have to deal with Base Goku's who do only that.
Honestly he should have 2 spirit bomb supers
One being the one before the speed buff where it’s slow however incredible in damage
And one being the current one but Much lower in Damage
Because I should not die From a RAW LEVEL 5(Kaioken x20 Kamehameha -> Super Spirit Bomb) because I whiff a button ONCE
And doesn’t help the all baseku players play him anchor
@@mastrsonic375 you kind of should die for that when he has nothing else, and if that was the case which one would be dhc, spirit bomb high damage for a dhc l3 is one of the only things keeping Goku alive rn he needs it
I want perfect attack negative on block and u.i. 22 s frame one invincible and air option after his 2 h
I feel like if they made it negative it would take away a lot of his mix. It definitely doesn't have to be invul or be a TOD starter though. Imo if they tweaked his damage off it and removed the invincibility it'd be in a pretty good spot. Also should definitely increase hitstun on UI's 2s. Not fair he has to lvl 1 super for a consistent confirm.
They just need to remove invuln, and instead have the head invuln so it's an anti air that way you can't use it as a reversal but it's still good for mix/anti air
@@lukeblaker8009 This. ⬆️
@@lukeblaker8009 agreed 💯
@@tylerlien8795 good point
Me personally for fusions adjust some moves, their distance, get rid of meter nerf, and just treat them like they did Z Broly. Everything is a light starter except for 5LL (second hit of L auto combo) Z Broly had that for a while and he's not even a fusion.
I was a Cell sub-main. I always said he should've had a counter: like him standing there looking at his hand like in the anime. But invincible perfect attack was not the answer lol.
But what do I know. I'm just a retired Fighterz player that has quit the game 4 times.
HELL YES! NEW PATCH!
Idea for the next patch: Make Yamcha have 1 HP to be lore accurate
Yamcha tanked a Baseball thrown by Champa. If anything he should have more health than most characters lol.
I just want to be able to find a match without it taking 3 years
I've been wanting that empty vanish bs to end for years and i know they won't get rid of it. It's honestly been the bane of my combo routes for ages
As for what they might do in the balance patch, I'm gonna give a really wild take and say they'll add in a new (most likely dumb) mechanic: super dash cancels
Basically make your character better and other characters worst
The sparking beam SD bug of Adult gohan needs to go please
hook said arcsys will make this patch not bandai
I'm not getting my hopes up for the balance patch. I'm down for all those changes. Personally, I'd like to see double super be scaled to 50% of the scaled damage and lvl 3 supers be exempt from the extra scaling of double supers. I miss being able to do the sparking double lvl 3 combo with Cooler. Also add in solo guard cancels by inputting 6A1+A2.
It's arcsys tho, they have our backs
As a Napa player I can agree with the physical assist hitting saibaman
Buff Hit 🙏
Agreed
I dont agree for any of the nerfs you said instead buff weak characters i said what is the best on your previous video
So you want to get hit by technically Fully invincible Moves that make you explode
No way u think perfect attack, vegeta grab, etc dont need nerfs. unless you think everyone in the game should just be dashing around the screen neutral skipping with frame 4 invul moves that tod on hit and are safe on block plus give you mix☠☠. turn this into perfect attackZ
@@jxrage9134 majority of people here, niche yt btw'', dont know what they talking, imagine the overall players
Honestly the only patch I’d be very very happy with is if they just nerf blue vegeta's damage because the two big bang attack combo deletes like 50% of your health and its insane 😭
The patch is for visuals due to rollback issues
Im still of a mind vegito A assist wasnt a problem. People just didnt play good neutral and kept getting hit by it.
Gt goku not on the list cloud but saibamen and ex pa is?🤔
Buff kid buu
My crazy idea for kid buu is that kid buu should get full reverse beat, and the 214 anti air grab should be able to grab standing targets.
Make Tien C more consistent in higher decay combos plz
No Genkidama nerfs ??
Hoping they buff hit and here are some changes I want to see
Buff:
Remove Meter Nerf
2L can be charged to combo and be plus
5M invulnerability during travel
2M 24 frames (WHY IS THIS STILL 27 FRAMES AND HIS ONLY LOW)
5S (Bandai please buff this combo it desperately needs buffs)
JL (Can now do use JL more then once per jump or use JM JLL, even though he should have it in the first place)
JH no longer causes ground bounce (why is hit’s JH the only one that does this)
214 L 20 frames and OTGs
214 M 24 frames and OTGs
214 H 22 frames and OTGs
236 M 26 frame start up
236 MH LLL OTGs
236 LMH -> M Give back wallbounce
236 LMH -> 2M gives Sliding Knockdown
236 LMH H now -8 on Block
Air 214 S acting as fastball, hit needs an air special because he’s the only character who doesn’t have air specials and a fastball would do a lot for him IMO
No way bro think hit need buff
@@elygiaochuAt least in the Air and with mid screen Combos
Lets face it bros… Gt cheese definitely getting removed 😭😭😭
Cell buff was great since it emphasizes his strengths and barely touches his weakness, I hope it stays. Make it an l starter or give him a meter nerf if need be
At this point just shut down the servers. If they’re gonna continuously make pointless adjustments that ppl are just going to complain about or nerf the characters I PAID FOR, just give me sparking zero
I disagree with the vegito low. Keep that but your spot on everything else
Truly DBFZ assists poisoned me to tag fighters basically forever. I can't even believe DBFZ players even WANT to play 2XKO after this game
C-Assists never need a buff, full converts off of beams, tracking moves and invulnerable dps didn't even need to be in game, let alone buffed.
Uo Goku Buffs his dodge needs to be better imagine being punished for that read, honestly removing his dp was kinda dumb to me it's honestly borderline useless now. I feel like Krillins Solar Flare could have a bit more usage. Better neutral for piccolo plzzzzzz. Blue Vegeta damage nerf.
Yeah. Because a character with 5 different wake up options to steal his turn back needed a frame 1 invul DP that hits both sides and above. Get out of here.
Did you just say Solar Flare doesn't have enough utility? It's just a normal dp, like it's even better than some because it hits all around him wtf?
@@HibbyGibbons Solar Flare isn't a dp idk where you got that from lmao it does have anti air properties though.
@@dylancross1039 The problem with UI Goku is all his unsafe options. He has regular wake up options that all suck. His level 1 counter can literally just be level 3'd on confirm like tf. His "invisible punch wake up" is literally one of the easiest moves to bait/read and super punishable on block. Plus both Gogetas have a dp that hits both sides (although blue Gogetas angle is a little weird) it's literally nothing new. There's a reason why people even Cloud are calling him the worst character in the game open your eyes bro. Although I know a lot of lower ranks/new players have trouble dealing with him (specifically his auto combo) which like most people including Cloud has said is literally a skill issue. Idk where you got 5 different wake up options like they all aren't trash even his 2H sucks.
@@redditsenpai3470 the only thing stopping it from being a dp is the invulnerability. Which I admit is an issue but is also has a follow up that only applies if you hit AND want it to, hits all sides, you can call assists during, it comes out fast even if no invulnerability and it's plus on block. The move is fine.
Give ssj goku a 2L that hits low so i can play him and my fusion meter gain.
don't forget nerf raw tag.
we've been complaining about it for years and it won't get changed but might as well try.
Perfect attack and blugeta's grab need to get nerfed. I legit have not played this game in months because of those moves.
I agree with reverting the 50% meter nerf. It's one of the laziest nerfs I've ever seen. They should actually tone down the characters instead of shooting their meter gain.
Things that I wanna see personally is giving Majin 21 a hard knockdown. Maybe make it so that using the dive after a grab gives it and keep the normal dive as is. Also, give her lvl 3 oki
Beerus should absolutely lose his dp into lvl 1 into lvl 3 into mix. No character should ever be able to turn a blocked dp into an advantageous situation.
Buff Bardock so that he actually has something to mix with. There's no threat at all when you're blocking him.
That Beerus mix is literally a meme, lol. No high level Beerus ever uses it. Literally ever
@@Kitsune986 it doesn't matter if they do it or not. It's possible and it shouldn't be
@@bluegrave4376
Just because it's possible doesn't make it good. You can literally reflect his lvl1 on reaction and blow him up for it. It's a meme
can’t u js duck the vegeta grab idk if it’s punishable but it’s definitely dodgeable
@@datbo1jay1yes but it has very little recovery frames so it can be hard to punish
If they gonna keep handing out invincibility like its candy on Halloween, make Kid Buu Ex command grab anti air😈 also, as a GT Goku player plz nerf backwards kamehameha and give me back my a assist🙏 mainly those two and rebalancing the meta definers like Vegito, Gogeta, Red Gogeta, lab coat bc rn they're not fun to play against and they don't rlly feel all that fun to play as imo
Keep that Hopium low so you get Devastated when it's it's another party game patch.
Overall recovery on moves seem non existent. If you want to make somthing strong fine whatever but there should be high risk high reward. This goes for most of the roster because its just gives the incentive to throw out random ex moves hoping they hit.
i know Cloud is not going to address it, but agohan's 2S/jS needs to go. 95% of agohan mains nowadays play one button neutral with jS and it just looks so lame. Also make it so that he can only dump 5 meters at once, imo that was when he was most balanced, that combined with the the super damage buff now i think it's only fair.
As an Agohan main this is a terrible take it’s his only air neutral tool, if it was broken then ok but just cause you don’t like how it looks? I already struggle closing the gap with his neutral thank you very much
@@anonanon1638 uh, hello?
J236M or j236H?
Double airdash?
Absurdly long air normals?
Fast fall?
If you're not good enough to utilize all of that then sorry man that's a skill issue.
My problem with jS isn't just how it looks, my problem is that it's so obnoxiously strong, safe and easy to use that Agohan mains nowadays play with no creativity or finesse.
Keep in mind i hate A.gohan but the amount of players that use 2.S as a DP in blockstrings is ridiculous the move is absurd he doesnt need it for air neutral he's got 236H and his goofy lobg j.M
I hope Gogeta 4 is unplayable, his one hit KO makes it so that if he is balanced he is still unfun to play against.
Skill issue. No players of equal skill have matches where level 7 is a problem unless the team is built around it specifically. Even so, its not a problem, because doing that results in a worse team overall.
Revert zbroly back to his s3 self
Cross platform is my wish list
Buff cooler earth shaker to combo into easier and into his heavy death breaker and make his lvl 3s faster. Buff piccolo demon slicer to easier combo into and extend. Make give him masenko as break property? And fix kid Buu plz. Give his pressure back and make but his mystic ball for more hit stun and arm ball for better recovery. Thank you plz. And no more meter penalties. Bring back yamcha full screen wolf fang and give back Ginyu guldo change. Create indicators for characters that level up or change assist like Ginyu. And there should be a system change that fits all like all heavy starters should be a potential tod, mix after level 3 etc. and give blueku and new combo already. Easier to use like other characters. And blu Vegeta and cell? Lose the armor. That's it. I think lol also fix the assist that they nerfed to the ground. No more super nerfs and super buffs. Keep it slight
I hope Cell remains relatively untouched. I'd like to still be able to kill off of PA but i guess if its made not fully invincible to everything I'd be fine with that.
Ngl I'm a bit biased too since I play him but PA is fs the move that makes him such a viable character. I wouldn't mind a damage tweak either but the invincibility has to go.
Please buff S Broly PROPERLY this time, bandai...
Make kid buu good again
I just got back into the game, PLEASE don't fw my team😂
Leave jiren, 18, and Bluegeta alone unless it's a buff and give Android 21 a sliding knockdown along with oki.
Might be my own biased opinion but I fr miss Majin 21's old lvl 3 oki
How cloud been playing dbfz since release and has never won anything? He dont compete anymore or what?
Nerf Vegeta Blue 100%. Tired of all the invul left n right and his recovery after every move. Spamming Big Bang, energy blast volley and grabs with practically no recovery is beyond toxic play styles
Buffkidbuu
ADD ALL HOLIDAY COLORS TO ALL CHARACTERS‼️‼️‼️
Time to huff the copium again
I ask God for Trunks buffs
Majin 21 needs buffs
Miss her old lvl 3 mix fs
@@tylerlien8795 ong
save Ui
buff basegeta, nerf blueku
this unreasonable fullscreen normal nonsense has to go and character's who have specials like this, should have to sacrifice other stuff to be allowed having it. like bardock was the og lariat character and sacrificed multi ki blasts for it... now he has no real identity anymore. and NO, don't buff him too much, but god damn, like top 15 characters in this game are just too strong in a bullshit way that makes no sense.
i feel like, kefla is the best example of how strong a character should be and how to combine weaknesses and strenghts in a reasonable way... android 18 was the same, but then she got her 5m range buffed and this barrier spam nonsense. also, give characters back lv 3 mix.
I thinK beerus is fine but that's my opinion
Remove C assists entirely. They were a mistake.
I want to play this game without boring rage quitters or people win think they “all that 😂😂” and leave with stickers taunting.
No balance patch or anything can safe this boring game
I hope that they will finally remove C - assists, its one of the many cancer's of this game (which will most likely not happen)
Get rid of the meter penalty was such lazy way to nerf characters. Actually tone down Vegito and Lab Coat
For the love of God take away all of the invincible moves. This half a bar full screen shit is annoying, none in GT's case(take that away too) and just make his A assist startup fast again and I'll be happy
Gut Jiren and Cell because fuck them
Don't overly buff characters, tbh I would like most characters to be toned down tbh
Give characters lv3 oki back(mostly 21). It's so weird they take it away from characters just to give it to others, I don't get it
For the love of God as a day 1 Trunks main, I'll never drop him. But give my boy some actual needed changes he is struggling
Trunks got great buffs in the last patch, lol. He is not struggling
@@Kitsune986I agree, but it's nice to be greedy for such a sick character. Make him able to block during spin.
@Kitsune986 his "substantial" buffs last patch were what? He can 236 L & M anywhere on screen now. And you can IAD after his flips. Besides universal changes, I think that's it. His flips aren't as good as someone like Roshi's. And he can lv3 midscreen now without spending meter. If you think his buffs last patch were great. You're either trolling or buggin
@@cloudtg462
Ah, yes. Trunks only needing to spend 3 bars to get his lvl3 anywhere instead of 4 (plus another .5 to mess up the flip mix) is such a nothing buff.
Trunks being able to combo off of Shining Slash meterlessly is such a nothing buff. Getting even more mix potential off his flips thanks to being able to IAD afterward is such a nothing buff.
Trunks being able to extend combos and get a sliding knock downs meterlessly is such a nothing buff. His 5S being faster and having more hitstun, along with his Cyclone Jump > S having more hitstun allowing for easier conversions, are such nothing buffs.
Just say you're bad at the game and move on
Buff blue Goku heavy dive kick like cell without invincibility
remove all c-assist pls (I have a skill issue)
Hey so where the FUCK are the Raids? Me and my homies havent been able to raid since fucking Frieza MONTHS ago. WHAT IS GOING ON?????
Please just leave krillin alone and buff yamchas ex wolf fang fist 🙏😭
Someone fix bardock please 😢
Do not nerf saibamen, he actually needs it and it is ok
They need to revert the game back to the version that had the most players online. If that means giving android 21 her debuff combos I’m cool with it
Just remove Invincibility from blue Vegeta and cell and GT
BUFF UI goku he really needs it
Buff S Broly 5L and jL
Can't wait for the next patch but Cell and Gt must not be touched 👍
I just hope they remove GT from the game
I hate that rat.
Nerf cell nerf baby and make jiren the worst character in the entire game to the point where he's unusable