Honestly I think the people who are saying he’s “milking it” are milking it themselves. It’s easy to involve yourself in a drama when you’re popular creator like this just to get it easy few outrage views
@@hankhill2254 that does not excuse him though of making like a million videos of pokimane. And look I'm not a fan if pokimane but most not all but most of the drama is uninteresting. Oh look uh pokimane had some drama because he took a walk. Damn that's interesting.
@@user-ls9ic5vr1g The fuck are you on about? We're not talking about Pokimane here. It's about Shannon/CreepshowArt being a horrible person and when someone directly associated (her video editor in this situation) with her decides to make a video after people said "Your written statement is not enough", he's suddenly *Milking it* because of ALL those drama channels just talking again and again about the Drama for these sweet sweet UA-cam Pennies. These people are insensitive af, thinking that they are funny while making fun of someone that wants to apologize to every people he hurt while editing her vids. Did you even watch this video?
@@benshapiro4436 I really don't give get it man was talking about his side of the story and both of them are like AHAHA YOU DIDN'T EDIT SHIT LMAOOOOO, seriously this shit is stupid
@@bahaedablackaceenthusiast9955 I think its mainly due to creep being lazy and not much needing to be edited in her vids so there just making jokes. The stupid thing is people dont have a sense of humor
Nburd: does his job Twitter: lol why didn’t you like not listen to your boss and not earn your money, you’re litteraly milking the situation by responding because people asked you to respond, but I would never milk this, my 50 tweets and 2 videos on creep show should prove I didn’t milk it
@@ElGato6969. a little bit I think here and there but people can't make fun of someone's job seriously this drama was literally started by nick and tom for no reason other than clout
Crippleshow Art didn't do anything wrong, here's why: - she is supposed to be an artist she has to be likeable - she is friends with mini ladd - she is artist
@@benshapiro4436 Don’t forget she has a stalker! And her stalker is worse than any other stalker in existence because it just so happens that her stalker has been hiding out in Shannon’s house for 3 years unseen, sneaking around the shadows stealing all of Shannon’s devices to post on lolcow to say vile things about Shannon’s “friends” while also continually promoting Shannon’s channel. Can’t anyone see that she is the biggest and most traumatized victim of all time? C’mon “my dude”, she’s literally the BEST person and the BEST friend there ever was! You simply HAVE to believe her word without proof on this one guys! It’s all freaking “AMY’S” fault! Oh! And don’t forget she’s a world class artist! 🤔😂💀
Damn, Nick is trying to be Leafy so bad when most of his 'contrarian' takes and tweets are barely funny. Not to mention him insulting Emily Artful when her video came back and calling it two hours of rambling nonsense but deleting those tweets when she started getting overwhelming support. What a clown.
Yeah he said he didn't care when she compared him to Anthony- I could see the comparison- He is being an ahole who doesn't care and laughs at everyones pain. Typical
Nick dogging on people for milking the CS art drama for clout while browsing, responding, and tweeting about it for clout. He tries sooooo hard to be edgy.
@@ghostwater9070 this time when Keem appeared i wasn't like "Fucking hell, not this idiot." but kinda laugted at the "edit this" and nBURD just doing it for the hell of it.
Feel for Shannon's former friends. According to morons, either they're not saying enough they're milking the drama or they secretly are Shannon, because yes people genuinely believe that omnia is Shannon
"What did he edit?" Oh I don't know maybe: Speeding up the fottage and cutting out exsesive pauses as tends to happen when one is drawin, adding screenshots that coraletes with the points being made, cutting out bloopers and other unwanted stuff from the voiceover, adjusting the audio levels to said voiceover, adjusting video and audio so they match up lenghtwise, adding in a potential endcard But again, I don't know
Its really frustrating seeing people in the comments of this video bashing Tom for what is clearly banter and jokes. Americans really don't understand Aussie banter culture at all it seems.
@@nova4814 They were just being annoying to be annoying. Have no idea why, usually Tom is pretty cool and interesting, but here he was just being a dick. Then when he got called out he said , "Aw, looks like they got the group chat on me." Like dude was just being an asshole for no reason.
@@TheStarForge true i thought emma was taking it too far but I kinda realized both nick and tom were over the line. They’re all pretty cool content creators at the end of the day but ffs everyone got too defensive
@@thefilthycasual6402 Yeah, that's the message I got from him. What rubbed me the wrong way the most though was his "what did he edit" like that matter. As others have pointed out, he was being paid to edit videos to pay his bills not question his employer on every little detail to justify his work to them. Whedre he should have or not, to end up with a higher quality work, is irrelevent unless you are talkimg about an very influencial personality (which creepshow really isn't outside of maybe youtube).
A lot of people like Nicholas and his takes, you're just butthurt because he made fun of a guy who probably never actually edited for creepshowart like he says he did
@@kebabkebob7808 The only reason I believe he was the editor or at least affiliated with her is because he is listed under her featured channels. Aside from that, the editing is barely anything at best.
@@WrathofFenrir99 That could be it! She does have a lot of cut offs in her videos that are only noticeable if you pay attention. Don’t doubt he did work for her, of course, it just seems minimal from a first time view which is why the whole conflict happened. Thank you for clarifying.
@@lakamokolaka i mean you don’t just naturally evolve into a mature adult the moment you turn 18. he’s probably still in his senior year of high school
@@cowtitties9785 He been a commentator long before he turned 18 for years and is surrounded by grown adults. If he doesn't know right from wrong by now in a community litterally always debates that stuff then something is wrong there.
they never have. for ppl who like to criticize others and "hold them accountable" through their videos, when shit comes their wat (they ;iterally insert themselves in) they play it off like "lol idc i was trolling xd megalul go cry woman r=tard" it's not funny. not interesting. just passive, "sarcastic" comments as loey said.
nBurd: can i be editor ricky: prove yourself nBurd: *sends about the video about telling him that he was an editor to creepshow art* ricky: youre hired I love this part
Nick deorio is really trying to make nburd's involvement in CSA video editing look so minuscule when I remember when she announced he was her editor and I could see a noticable difference in the editing of the videos 🤷♀️
Who else is surprised to find some of the people who were long time friends with Johnswan just being an ass for no reason to a random editor. Just wait till they learn simple gameplay channels have ediotors. They are going to shit themselves.
The nburd critics just want to have a go at someone and think everyone else is stupid when they label it a 'joke' or somehow deserving. Like no. Its funny how nburd is milking it when these people do this stuff..huh. its not her friends that are milking it but other channels who report every new detail as if its breaking news. I did enjoy the stuff between nburd and others making fun of critics. Lol
@@auliamate Also, it was Shannon's demands. He could be extremely talented at editing, able to do crazy stuff that an average editor wouldn't dream of doing but couldn't do it just because Shannon said "Edit it like this". So yeah.
Most of the time I agree with people like nicholas and other commentary channels on these twitter threads but they acted like assholes for no particular reason
anyone find it ironic when Turkey Tom is crticizing this as a "cash grab" or this guys editing when he LITERALLY DID VIDEOS ON DREAM MULTIPLE TIMES, ANOTHER ON NAMED "Neekolul Is A Fake Socialist😳 and a video on creep show art as well😎. It's so strange...🤔🤔🤔
He wasn't really criticizing Nate, he was indirectly making fun of Creepshow Art's videos, I've heard that there's not much editing in them (Shannon gave Nate almost nothing to work with). Its much different than what Nick DeOrio was doing (that left a bad taste in my mouth).
@@scottmemelord6130 apparently a lot of losers in this comment section. He made a very very weak and passive joke about whoever that was and everyone's acting like he killed someone.
There was legit no reason for them to go in on the editor. Yeah it wasnt the fanciest editing but like, he got his cash. Really he should be being praised for getting paid for such simple editing and the one being shit on should be Shannon.
Oh nice attacking editors and trashing them for statements their communities asked them for :) We love seeing people demeaning each other's paying jobs, totally valid:)))))))))) Seriously the two main people in this thread have the vibe of "I argue that sex work isn't a real job while paying sex workers."
I’m confused by Nick and Tom, it truly seems unnecessary. Like two editors edits may be pointless but she hired him for that purpose. God it’s so dumb, the complain about Twitter arguments but they just started one
@@ghostwater9070 one minute they'll fight over why there's no female representation in He-Man the next they'll be discussing why Ted Bundy should be the next president of the US and why Obama hasn't installed protogent to the US network
@@kosiqueensly4506 they are mocking him cause they think the guy is milking the situation, so by "calling him out" they choose to mock his editing which is very a high school bully move
@@tsuneTheSlime I understood that but that’s not the dudes fault. It seems like an easy job given to him by a lazy woman. If he’s getting paid to fast forward a video than more power to him. Easy money.
Am I tripping out or did Turkey Tom not release an entire Google Drive exposé a while ago on someone with the most bare minimum facts lol. Is he now just pretending that didn’t happen…
@@benshapiro4436 lmao I can’t help but to think it’s bold of him to talk so disrespectfully when clearly there are things he has to address but I digress. 😬
Nick is a fucking creep, he's 23 years old and still stuck in his edgy faze and posts insensitive things so he can call people in his comments "sensitive" for rightfully calling him out on his bullshit. I just can't stand people like that.
Yeah...but that is why no one watches them. They have this little idiot circle and pat eachothers backs. They think they are awesome yet can't get views. Thank God. They are like keem.
@@Walnutinthelake Keem in character- He loves these guys. Keem builds a lot of views with kids and popular drama. Nick....he is just an ahole all the time
So Nick's being gross... and what else is new. Like for real, at this point I'm just waiting for her to say something, but I'm also not holding my breath.
@@neonwallacewells7818 but how can you not watch such a car crash of a manchild and just not think making him say more shitty takes is just sinking him more and more and making the crash so much better?? Like you simply cant!
@@redduskironsky1058 it's called trolling, And it's entertaining. Being a troll is just as immature and lame as running around twitter defending some no body from internet words because you think having internet friends is actual human contact.
I think that Nick specifically said that he thought CSA was a good person, because he saw her give money to smaller channels... yeah, initiating a cash relationship with up-and-coming commentary channels totally isn't a red flag.
He kind of is simping for her though, instead of criticizing her for needing an editor in the first place with how little editing her videos needed, he shits on the editor and says he's milking this situation. It's like Nick's trying to find anything to get the attention off of her.
Nick had a major double down moment there. Bruh. Dude was really moving goalposts and settled to "agree to disagree". My guy. Your uninformed take isn't worth a parody thread. These people are actually absurd. Especially considering these are Swan friends.
The way toxic fanbases latch on the the minor excuse even for seventeen year olds is crazy to me. A similar situation is when a minecraft youtuber was sent death threats for "stealing" his 17 year old friend's among us color. You could tell the guy wanted to go off on the people spamming bullshit in his chat. That situation solidified why I hate minecraft stans and just about 50% of the minecraft fandom. 17 year olds are minors and aren't as mature as a 25 year old, yes, but they aren't fucking toddlers either. It's fucking crazy how people will infantalize creators just because they're below 18
Carson situation: *gets milked for every tiddlywink of clout one can get from it* Nick: I sleep Creepshowart's editor: *makes a vid because people wanted him to* Nick: REAL SHIT?!
The editor is literally just trying to pay his bills, leave him alone. He doesn't realize that crapping all over his editing skills can actually hurt his business.
I love the fact you added an instrumental version of Sonic's; Knight of the Wind. I got used to the chill music that you usually do when it comes to the drama lol.
@truhart3469 but didn't that editor make one video? Also, Nick is going around crying about anyone making a video on Shannon. I didn't see that same attitude when everyone was making a video on any other creator, when they get "exposed" for something. I'm pretty sure he's made more tweets/comments bitching about the situation, than anyone else has done individually talking about their interactions with Shannon. He's kinda "milking" his annoyance with anyone that says anything negative about her. Unless they're his friend, then it's okay. But no one else is allowed to say anything, or else they're milking it 😒
DeOrio is a contrarian. If he goes hard for one side and too many people start to agree, he'll switch the argument just to be the odd man out. It's a schtick that usually works for him because he has a small coterie of sycophants willing to back him, but every so often his take hits either too close to the people at hand, or there's another mob with numbers to rival his own. It's fun to watch it all go down, though.
@@SmittenKitten. Not exactly. Nerd City wasn’t hated or or anything like Shannon but he was giving constructive criticism on channels like Jake Paul and Lele pons on advertising and Nick pretty much was acting like a complete idiot trying to be the odd man out. Between this, the D’Angelo Wallace situation, and now the creepshow stuff I’m really starting to lose a lot of respect for the guy
Turkey Tom is like that joke villain that somehow works his way into every arc of the anime. No one likes him or thinks he's funny but the show writers just keep bringing him back anyway.
but like, a video editor has a direct contribution to creep's youtube channel compared to a gardener. And people have been pushing and shaming him into making a video
@Carlton It's actually usually the opposite. I don't care what people say about me but if you talk s*** on my friends or family I'm going to get upset about it. I know many people act this way.
Fr. Why doesn't Nick call out Bowblax for milking the tweets on every drama/argument? If you're gonna call out someone for doing something, keep that same energy with your friends. You look like a dumbass when you're surrounded by people that do the same thing you're calling others out on! Not to mention, he's also doing the same shit he's complaining about! The hypocrisy never ends
i mean in fairness the entire point of this channel is to document what goes on in case the tweets get deleted and or to catch people up to speed with what's going on, it's the entire point of his content lol.
i don't even get the point of this. the guy edited her videos and wanted to make a comment on the situation. so what if the videos were shitty and didn't even need an editor? that's more on shannon and not on the guy editing them. also, making fun of people for defending their friend against people shitting on them for no reason isn't as funny as you think it is. it's just sad
That's what Tom was making fun of though, Creepshow Art's videos. He respects nate from what I know about the situation and was bantering him slightly too.
I like Nick and Tom but their takes imo where shit, yeah they where making a joke and yes i agree this is getting a bit milked but there was no reason to come on him like that. IMO.
Omg a reasonable person. It kinda pissed me off when I found out she had an editor cause people have been begging her to ad basic image overlays in her shit. Like most video softwares can do that...but like she was PAYING someone who couldn't even do that? Maybe she was just trying to give em easy money? I don't know what his stuff was like before but if speeding up footage gives me the right to call myself an editor then I'm a fucking lv 1000 mafia boss.
Nick needs to calm down lol. Nathan seems like a genuinely good dude and the way he handled this was pretty great. Very chill and took nothing personally. I see him having a good future in editing and the internet world in general. I wish I could hire him!
Nicholas blocked me when I tried to criticize, like ACTUALLY tell him why him mocking Emily on Peanut’s stream was bad and he blocked me. Him implying OTHERS can't take cRiTiSism is just... wow.
I just look at this video and all the back and forth arguments and feel depressed at the sheer amount of that people spend much of their time on the internet just angrily writing text getting absolutely nowhere
Twitter and YT were FREAKING TF OUT on her friends (and really anyone even vaguely connected to her) cause they didn’t make videos denouncing her quick enough. And then when they do…they freak tf out again. They are tiring.
@@XOChristianaNicole what I meant really was who won for the episode, like did Twitter win or the editor in this instance. But what you said makes sense too.
Honestly I think the people who are saying he’s “milking it” are milking it themselves. It’s easy to involve yourself in a drama when you’re popular creator like this just to get it easy few outrage views
It is also hard to stay outta drama, just by being called out by someone who is involved in drama can bring you into drama
so true bestie
he is milking it, everyone is.
@@hankhill2254 that does not excuse him though of making like a million videos of pokimane. And look I'm not a fan if pokimane but most not all but most of the drama is uninteresting. Oh look uh pokimane had some drama because he took a walk. Damn that's interesting.
@@user-ls9ic5vr1g The fuck are you on about?
We're not talking about Pokimane here.
It's about Shannon/CreepshowArt being a horrible person and when someone directly associated (her video editor in this situation) with her decides to make a video after people said "Your written statement is not enough", he's suddenly *Milking it* because of ALL those drama channels just talking again and again about the Drama for these sweet sweet UA-cam Pennies. These people are insensitive af, thinking that they are funny while making fun of someone that wants to apologize to every people he hurt while editing her vids.
Did you even watch this video?
It's nice to know that nBURD had a sense of humor with all of this. Definitely one of the most entertaining conversations I've ever read.
meanwhile Nick and Tom taking this as seriously as WWII
lowkey
Gotta respect him for having a sense of humour lol
@@benshapiro4436 I really don't give get it man was talking about his side of the story and both of them are like AHAHA YOU DIDN'T EDIT SHIT LMAOOOOO, seriously this shit is stupid
@@bahaedablackaceenthusiast9955 I think its mainly due to creep being lazy and not much needing to be edited in her vids so there just making jokes. The stupid thing is people dont have a sense of humor
Nburd: does his job
Twitter: lol why didn’t you like not listen to your boss and not earn your money, you’re litteraly milking the situation by responding because people asked you to respond, but I would never milk this, my 50 tweets and 2 videos on creep show should prove I didn’t milk it
Ok but what did he edit tho
@@ElGato6969. cut out all her ramblings probably
He cuts the parts where she visibly harasses people.
So he's not an editor, he's an accomplice
@@ElGato6969. a little bit I think here and there but people can't make fun of someone's job seriously this drama was literally started by nick and tom for no reason other than clout
“Creepshow Art? Ewww I don’t like her!”
*[Everyone agrees with you.]*
Crippleshow Art didn't do anything wrong, here's why:
- she is supposed to be an artist she has to be likeable
- she is friends with mini ladd
- she is artist
@@benshapiro4436 -she was homeless and lived out of a car
YOOOO ITS BTS
@@babynyxe4784 >she literally went full hippie van life at the request of her boyfriend, none of them struggled even once during that time
@@benshapiro4436 Don’t forget she has a stalker! And her stalker is worse than any other stalker in existence because it just so happens that her stalker has been hiding out in Shannon’s house for 3 years unseen, sneaking around the shadows stealing all of Shannon’s devices to post on lolcow to say vile things about Shannon’s “friends” while also continually promoting Shannon’s channel. Can’t anyone see that she is the biggest and most traumatized victim of all time? C’mon “my dude”, she’s literally the BEST person and the BEST friend there ever was! You simply HAVE to believe her word without proof on this one guys! It’s all freaking “AMY’S” fault! Oh! And don’t forget she’s a world class artist! 🤔😂💀
Thank you for including us trolling Rebecca that was my favorite part of this whole mess
bruh
we do a little trolling
@@TokenMCPE its called we do a little trolling
@@TokenMCPE We partake in a minuscule amount of tomfoolery.
Have you gotten off of the discord call tho?
Damn, Nick is trying to be Leafy so bad when most of his 'contrarian' takes and tweets are barely funny. Not to mention him insulting Emily Artful when her video came back and calling it two hours of rambling nonsense but deleting those tweets when she started getting overwhelming support. What a clown.
Yeah he said he didn't care when she compared him to Anthony- I could see the comparison- He is being an ahole who doesn't care and laughs at everyones pain. Typical
No u
Nick dogging on people for milking the CS art drama for clout while browsing, responding, and tweeting about it for clout.
He tries sooooo hard to be edgy.
@@LowkeySosa dude this is youtube, yk thst right?
@@WrathofFenrir99 Christ. You just scream ignorance.
@@LowkeySosa you know you are really unfunny when you mock someone's name as the ultimate comeback and think you owned them😂
I like how Keemstar always find a way to wiggle himself into every Twitter vs argument lol
Keem literally showed up to shitpost lol
@@ghostwater9070 this time when Keem appeared i wasn't like "Fucking hell, not this idiot." but kinda laugted at the "edit this" and nBURD just doing it for the hell of it.
Feel for Shannon's former friends. According to morons, either they're not saying enough they're milking the drama or they secretly are Shannon, because yes people genuinely believe that omnia is Shannon
Great now I have to watch every Omnia video.
People think omnia and Shannon are the same person??? Are you shitting me??
@@WrathofFenrir99 ??? I meant people think they are milking or not saying enough. They aren't actually. I only watched Ashlee Lilie's vid tho
Ok but what did he edit
@@ElGato6969. Your moms pron
Nick: This is being milked for views.
Also Nick: *Ethan Klein breathes* Look guys on what I found! 👀
what u on? the guy doesnt upload.
@@t1t1t62 Ethan Klein? man don't play with my emotions 😥 had my hopes up
Well Ethan does suck and is a hypocrital coward.
@@KrissyMeow yeah that's universally agreed but also not the point
Can’t forget about the John Sawn situation, obviously Kick milks that situation when he talks about it /j
"What did he edit?"
Oh I don't know maybe: Speeding up the fottage and cutting out exsesive pauses as tends to happen when one is drawin, adding screenshots that coraletes with the points being made, cutting out bloopers and other unwanted stuff from the voiceover, adjusting the audio levels to said voiceover, adjusting video and audio so they match up lenghtwise, adding in a potential endcard
But again, I don't know
But what did he edit
Ayo what did he edit, and say it with a smile this time!
@@stanmarsh4566 But what did he edit 😄
@@firestorm2699 bruh they literally told you in the comment
Its really frustrating seeing people in the comments of this video bashing Tom for what is clearly banter and jokes. Americans really don't understand Aussie banter culture at all it seems.
Dude, I forgot how much I didn't like Nicholas. Dude wasn't even being funny with his tweets, he was just being an idiot.
I can’t stand Nick and don’t get why people even listen to him in the first place.
Fr, his takes were just stupid. It was just "oh what does he edit?" "He's money grabbing" turkey tom was even worse too
@@nova4814 They were just being annoying to be annoying. Have no idea why, usually Tom is pretty cool and interesting, but here he was just being a dick. Then when he got called out he said , "Aw, looks like they got the group chat on me." Like dude was just being an asshole for no reason.
@@TheStarForge true i thought emma was taking it too far but I kinda realized both nick and tom were over the line. They’re all pretty cool content creators at the end of the day but ffs everyone got too defensive
@@nova4814 I mean, to be fair. No one really answered their questions
I'll just say that Ricky outclasses everyone involved in this.
As always 👍
Ricky is a true chad, He will dominate any woman he wants 😎😎😎
@@raymondemsworth4877 he will poison them with his ass cookies
Ricky is the god of Twitter we should all bow down to this true legend
@@edp445chinesecounterpart3 then trigger their ex because he called them a retard.
Someone: is an editor.
TurkeyTom: and I took that personally
Not really, he was bantering.
@@johnnywilson3071 I know but this is how his bantering felt.
@@thefilthycasual6402
Yeah, that's the message I got from him. What rubbed me the wrong way the most though was his "what did he edit" like that matter.
As others have pointed out, he was being paid to edit videos to pay his bills not question his employer on every little detail to justify his work to them. Whedre he should have or not, to end up with a higher quality work, is irrelevent unless you are talkimg about an very influencial personality (which creepshow really isn't outside of maybe youtube).
@@anelbegic2780 ok but what did he edit
Nicholas DeOrio seems to be a master of very stupid, bad takes. Which is a shame because I do enjoy various parts of his content.
Never liked dude. But that’s just me
@@WrathofFenrir99 why do you have a hate Bonner for nick? Lmao.
A lot of people like Nicholas and his takes, you're just butthurt because he made fun of a guy who probably never actually edited for creepshowart like he says he did
@@kebabkebob7808 The only reason I believe he was the editor or at least affiliated with her is because he is listed under her featured channels. Aside from that, the editing is barely anything at best.
@@WrathofFenrir99 That could be it! She does have a lot of cut offs in her videos that are only noticeable if you pay attention. Don’t doubt he did work for her, of course, it just seems minimal from a first time view which is why the whole conflict happened. Thank you for clarifying.
nick and turkey tom give me "unnecessarily mean high school freshmen" vibes
he’s 17 so yeah he probably hasn’t grown out of high school
Turkey Tom is usually correct though like him or not. Nick just tries to be louder
@@cowtitties9785 Tom is 18 now, he is an adult so that isn't really an excuse anymore
@@lakamokolaka i mean you don’t just naturally evolve into a mature adult the moment you turn 18. he’s probably still in his senior year of high school
@@cowtitties9785 He been a commentator long before he turned 18 for years and is surrounded by grown adults.
If he doesn't know right from wrong by now in a community litterally always debates that stuff then something is wrong there.
welp, here we go, nick digging himself back into the ground.
Seriously, guy can't help but involve himself where he doesnt belong.
@@BriannaBow he gets himself to respectability then goes "SIKE BITCH" and proceeds to jump right back into the hole of being a jerk.
@@BriannaBow man that reminds me of a gnome that does the same issue
@@BriannaBow Nick's act had my face cringing so hard, it looked like I just ate an entire lemon.
I mean, did he dig himself out in the first place?
Tom and Nick unable to take ANY criticism makes this 1000 times hypocritical
I absolutely cannot stand either of them you just know they are both rotten humans to deal with lol
Ok but what did he edit tho
But what did he edit
@@WrathofFenrir99 the money was to much
they never have. for ppl who like to criticize others and "hold them accountable" through their videos, when shit comes their wat (they ;iterally insert themselves in) they play it off like "lol idc i was trolling xd megalul go cry woman r=tard"
it's not funny. not interesting.
just passive, "sarcastic" comments as loey said.
nBurd: can i be editor
ricky: prove yourself
nBurd: *sends about the video about telling him that he was an editor to creepshow art*
ricky: youre hired
I love this part
Idk why people are being mean to the editor. He made cash for doing no work without hurting anyone. I think that's admirable.
"He's milking the situation!" Says the man who lives off of milking every situation he can.
Nick deorio is really trying to make nburd's involvement in CSA video editing look so minuscule when I remember when she announced he was her editor and I could see a noticable difference in the editing of the videos 🤷♀️
Who else is surprised to find some of the people who were long time friends with Johnswan just being an ass for no reason to a random editor. Just wait till they learn simple gameplay channels have ediotors. They are going to shit themselves.
Didn’t watch the video, but I can already tell it’s gonna be good.
"Creepshow Art? Ewww I don't like her!"
I agree with that
The lack of self-awareness from them is mind-blowing
The nburd critics just want to have a go at someone and think everyone else is stupid when they label it a 'joke' or somehow deserving. Like no. Its funny how nburd is milking it when these people do this stuff..huh. its not her friends that are milking it but other channels who report every new detail as if its breaking news. I did enjoy the stuff between nburd and others making fun of critics. Lol
what did he edit
@@InvocationOfSebastian Speeding up videos, adding screenshots, text and possibly fixing audio.
Simple doesn't mean anything. Work is work.
@@auliamate Also, it was Shannon's demands. He could be extremely talented at editing, able to do crazy stuff that an average editor wouldn't dream of doing but couldn't do it just because Shannon said "Edit it like this". So yeah.
what did he edit?
@@dango2917 that joke is really not as funny as you think it is, at this point it's just cringy
I love when Ricky gets in on the drama.
Most of the time I agree with people like nicholas and other commentary channels on these twitter threads but they acted like assholes for no particular reason
yeah it felt weird, I think Nick needs to chill. But eh, that's commentary for ya, everyone are assholes.
@@WhatIsMyLif3 yeh especially when he says he is milking the situation. The dude is literally a commentary/drama channel
Yeah I don't get it.
Especially Tom, dude needs to watch where the fuck he steps after all the shit he's done.
@@oliverp3545 yeah, didn't he try to end a man's career a while back?
@@oivametsola7624 Commentary Chanels should be the last ones to say someone is milking a drama.
Normal people: damn Nathan that sucks thanks for sharing your story
Drama Channels: What did he edit though
@@LowkeySosa its funny to you which is...yeah I get it, totally get why you find it funny if they find it funny.
Isnt this more towards shanon cos her videos are barely edited so she literally got a dude to just edit the videos in a way she coudve done herself?
People are overreacting
How damaging to someone's mental health is typing a tweet saying "what did he edit"
@@se.224 exactly
That was my first thought when I saw his video....like what DID he edit?
Ngl it just seems like Bowblax's Friends vs CSA's Editor
Gonna be honest, usually like Nick. But his hot takes were a bit... iffy today.
If you're gonna troll people at least be funny. That was simply obnoxious.
Wait what. People on Twitter- agreeing to disagree, no. Not possible.
People:you need to do something about your superiority complex
Nicholes DeDrio:But I am superior
@@WrathofFenrir99 good comment
me laugh
Why do people even care? Twitter is insane.
Some people are interested in public discourse, I guess
Aren't we here watching this tho?
@@Cloverfr I clicked off sometime before the video ended. Besides finding the content entertaining, and caring about it are two different things.
@@DanielleStarry lol twitter and a bunch of tiny UA-camrs aren't public discourse. Please get a hobby, or just go outside
As one of nBURD’s first subscribers I can say that this is strange to see that his channel is now big enough to where he’s in a bowblax video.
I found him through his ARG analysis videos a while back lol!
anyone find it ironic when Turkey Tom is crticizing this as a "cash grab" or this guys editing when he LITERALLY DID VIDEOS ON DREAM MULTIPLE TIMES, ANOTHER ON NAMED "Neekolul Is A Fake Socialist😳 and a video on creep show art as well😎. It's so strange...🤔🤔🤔
He wasn't really criticizing Nate, he was indirectly making fun of Creepshow Art's videos, I've heard that there's not much editing in them (Shannon gave Nate almost nothing to work with). Its much different than what Nick DeOrio was doing (that left a bad taste in my mouth).
Isn't Turkey Tom just a dumb teenager though?
Why does anyone care what he says? Lol
I think he milked the Pyro situation the most, but got destroyed at the end.
@@scottmemelord6130 apparently a lot of losers in this comment section. He made a very very weak and passive joke about whoever that was and everyone's acting like he killed someone.
@@neonwallacewells7818 true. Though people are just coming out of their holes because some people didn’t like what nick and Tom said.
There was legit no reason for them to go in on the editor. Yeah it wasnt the fanciest editing but like, he got his cash. Really he should be being praised for getting paid for such simple editing and the one being shit on should be Shannon.
Ok but what did he edit tho
Yo wait do you know what he edited?
@@ElGato6969. creepshow art's videos. I thought that was obvious ^^
@@commondognut creepshow art's videos
@@amarimochi that doesn’t really answer the question if you’ve actually have ever seen a creep show art video
Oh nice attacking editors and trashing them for statements their communities asked them for :)
We love seeing people demeaning each other's paying jobs, totally valid:))))))))))
Seriously the two main people in this thread have the vibe of "I argue that sex work isn't a real job while paying sex workers."
Are they really fighting over his edits or what he edited 🤣
I’m confused by Nick and Tom, it truly seems unnecessary. Like two editors edits may be pointless but she hired him for that purpose. God it’s so dumb, the complain about Twitter arguments but they just started one
Twitter literally fights about everything
@@ghostwater9070 one minute they'll fight over why there's no female representation in He-Man the next they'll be discussing why Ted Bundy should be the next president of the US and why Obama hasn't installed protogent to the US network
@@kosiqueensly4506 they are mocking him cause they think the guy is milking the situation, so by "calling him out" they choose to mock his editing
which is very a high school bully move
@@tsuneTheSlime I understood that but that’s not the dudes fault. It seems like an easy job given to him by a lazy woman. If he’s getting paid to fast forward a video than more power to him. Easy money.
Am I tripping out or did Turkey Tom not release an entire Google Drive exposé a while ago on someone with the most bare minimum facts lol. Is he now just pretending that didn’t happen…
Everyone forgot about it for some reason
Tom is playing a John Swan move
Come back like everything is all dandy and fine
@@benshapiro4436 lmao I can’t help but to think it’s bold of him to talk so disrespectfully when clearly there are things he has to address but I digress. 😬
@@ghostwater9070 lucky for him 🌝
I think so
nick is just constantly exhausting holy shit
She spoke about him so often. Nick is in the wrong here. Like woah
Nick is a fucking creep, he's 23 years old and still stuck in his edgy faze and posts insensitive things so he can call people in his comments "sensitive" for rightfully calling him out on his bullshit. I just can't stand people like that.
That should've proved who she is...You ar ethe company you keep. I don't trust anyone who likes Nick. He is a douche.
Don't really have much respect for Nicholas and friends after how they handled d'Angelo and milked Suzie Lue.
Yeah...but that is why no one watches them. They have this little idiot circle and pat eachothers backs. They think they are awesome yet can't get views. Thank God. They are like keem.
@@Angelface11 I wouldn't compare them to Keem honestly because Keem gets views and is like a millionaire
@@Walnutinthelake
Keem seems to have some principles, even if they are abit fucked at times, and can recognize when he's wrong.
@@Walnutinthelake Keem in character- He loves these guys. Keem builds a lot of views with kids and popular drama. Nick....he is just an ahole all the time
@@anelbegic2780 I do not agree.
So Nick's being gross... and what else is new. Like for real, at this point I'm just waiting for her to say something, but I'm also not holding my breath.
If only Turkey and Nick were actually funny
Tom is sometimes, Nick isn’t
Nick someone managed to be the most embarrassing and most forgettable part of this situation. Impressive.
Nick is such a child. Like no matter the context he comes off as an edgy contrarian who just wants attention.
Lol but idiots always fall for it.
@@neonwallacewells7818 but how can you not watch such a car crash of a manchild and just not think making him say more shitty takes is just sinking him more and more and making the crash so much better?? Like you simply cant!
@@redduskironsky1058 it's called trolling, And it's entertaining.
Being a troll is just as immature and lame as running around twitter defending some no body from internet words because you think having internet friends is actual human contact.
@@neonwallacewells7818 Entertaining for who? Children? Man children?
@@delz5863 lol bitch you have an anime pfp who's the man child?
Why is the Oreo being so mean? Doesn't he have to get eaten or something?
lmaooo
he hasnt taken his normal pills
The same can be said about Turkey Tom. Someone hurry up and stuff that bird already.
@@SpittFiire im waiting for thanksgiving
@@theia-3- Cant wait.
"the sights of hell brings its viewers back in"
@Fatbaby0408 "real suffering is not known"
bro is this a reference to the suicidemouse creepypasta? cause if so, its hilarious when using it in this context
@@JPisnotaquasarnorapulsar ah i see you are a man of culture as well
@Fatbaby0408 ah a fellow creepypasta enjoyer
DeOrio simps for Creepshow. Joking. Though he did say Creepshow helped him as well as rest of the community.
I think they used to be friends or acquaintances
Yeah, I definitely think Nick is letting their friendship cloud his judgement over this whole situation.
I think that Nick specifically said that he thought CSA was a good person, because he saw her give money to smaller channels... yeah, initiating a cash relationship with up-and-coming commentary channels totally isn't a red flag.
He kind of is simping for her though, instead of criticizing her for needing an editor in the first place with how little editing her videos needed, he shits on the editor and says he's milking this situation. It's like Nick's trying to find anything to get the attention off of her.
Loey and Emma seem like awesome friends to have. I'm so sorry for Nate being harassed for speaking out about his experience.
I like how Bowblax only likes comments that doesn’t dog on Nick. Like yeah he’s your friend, but he genuinely had a shitty take this time around lol.
I think he liked 2 comments criticle of them
Bruh watch d'angelo wallace vs Turkey tom and look at the comment section, Bowblax protects his friends everywhere and tries to denie it lol
@@Anjanathan0 I saw him like one about nick simping for shannon
@@Anjanathan0 d’angelo was genuinely wrong in that situation imo. Also he (Bowblax) stated this in the video that this was his opinion too
@@jollfamily4379 bruh tell me what angelo did wrong
Its so weird seeing people attack an editor for editing
Nick had a major double down moment there. Bruh.
Dude was really moving goalposts and settled to "agree to disagree". My guy. Your uninformed take isn't worth a parody thread.
These people are actually absurd. Especially considering these are Swan friends.
Last time Turkey Tom was criticized, the commentary community: "YOU'RE PICKING ON A LITERAL 17 YEAR OLD CHILD!"
Imagine being called a 17 year old child instead of a 17 year old man. I’d be embarrassed
The way toxic fanbases latch on the the minor excuse even for seventeen year olds is crazy to me.
A similar situation is when a minecraft youtuber was sent death threats for "stealing" his 17 year old friend's among us color. You could tell the guy wanted to go off on the people spamming bullshit in his chat.
That situation solidified why I hate minecraft stans and just about 50% of the minecraft fandom.
17 year olds are minors and aren't as mature as a 25 year old, yes, but they aren't fucking toddlers either. It's fucking crazy how people will infantalize creators just because they're below 18
Carson situation: *gets milked for every tiddlywink of clout one can get from it*
Nick: I sleep
Creepshowart's editor: *makes a vid because people wanted him to*
Nick: REAL SHIT?!
The editor is literally just trying to pay his bills, leave him alone. He doesn't realize that crapping all over his editing skills can actually hurt his business.
They were more talking about the amount of work he had to do instead of the quality and his skill.
At least I think.
i like how everybody was malding except for nburd himself who was chill about it
Lol thought the whole Rebecca/"down the rabb.it hole" situation was long dead xd
it never really was lol
People bring up old drama all the time. Especially on Twitter if it benefits their situation.
I honestly did think about her editor when this all first came out..... I was like I hope he is financially stable
@Hannah Smith hopefully you're not mistaken
Nick blocked me for calling him Cartman lol. His ego is easily bruised.
Mad respect with the use of “Knight of the Wind” in the background!
Damn... Nick you're just wrong on this one. Take the L and retract your statements bro
I love the fact you added an instrumental version of Sonic's; Knight of the Wind. I got used to the chill music that you usually do when it comes to the drama lol.
The community that made a thousand videos on Suzy Lu has an issue with "milking" a drama?
Ikr
@truhart3469 but didn't that editor make one video? Also, Nick is going around crying about anyone making a video on Shannon. I didn't see that same attitude when everyone was making a video on any other creator, when they get "exposed" for something.
I'm pretty sure he's made more tweets/comments bitching about the situation, than anyone else has done individually talking about their interactions with Shannon. He's kinda "milking" his annoyance with anyone that says anything negative about her. Unless they're his friend, then it's okay. But no one else is allowed to say anything, or else they're milking it 😒
@truhart3469 lol I guess 8+ years of stalking and nearly 3 on lolcow isn't lengthy?
Nick had made loads of videos about folks he doesn't know AT ALL. Seems hypocritical to me
@truhart3469 If it just came out recently, how is it "milking?" Youre legit on MY side of this!
This generation is fighting ab a editor’s work, I lost faith in humanity.
Are 5 people arguing on Twitter an entire generation?
DeOrio is a contrarian. If he goes hard for one side and too many people start to agree, he'll switch the argument just to be the odd man out. It's a schtick that usually works for him because he has a small coterie of sycophants willing to back him, but every so often his take hits either too close to the people at hand, or there's another mob with numbers to rival his own. It's fun to watch it all go down, though.
Exhibit A: Nerd City
@@jay_1212 I wasn't around for the Nerd City drama, but I've seen it alluded to. I can only imagine it's a cut + paste with this story?
@@SmittenKitten. Not exactly. Nerd City wasn’t hated or or anything like Shannon but he was giving constructive criticism on channels like Jake Paul and Lele pons on advertising and Nick pretty much was acting like a complete idiot trying to be the odd man out. Between this, the D’Angelo Wallace situation, and now the creepshow stuff I’m really starting to lose a lot of respect for the guy
That's something I also do.
Turkey Tom is like that joke villain that somehow works his way into every arc of the anime. No one likes him or thinks he's funny but the show writers just keep bringing him back anyway.
Okay but like... that "I was creepshow Art's Gardener" was a good one 😭💀
but like, a video editor has a direct contribution to creep's youtube channel compared to a gardener. And people have been pushing and shaming him into making a video
Discord humour
@@llamaniaman4002 didn’t know an app/site could have a specific type of humor 🤷♀️
"LOL they're all milking it! I was CreepShowArts Gardener"
*Proceeds to make multiple tweets milking it themselves*
EVERYONE has the right to share their thought/feeling💯
The women cared a lot more than nburd actually did
Cause they’re friends??? Fucking dumbass
Chadburd
@Carlton this isn’t about you
@Carlton It's actually usually the opposite. I don't care what people say about me but if you talk s*** on my friends or family I'm going to get upset about it. I know many people act this way.
i like how they are attacking the editor and trying to defend it by saying its criticism lmao twitter is so toxic its crazy
Yeah people are weird
It’s just a joke. Seems your name is fitting
"he edited so little so I am right" - nick and tom
@@reversemudkip8798 you're one of the people he is talking about
@@reversemudkip8798 where the fuck is the joke. Nick and Tom were being Genuine
With such a toxic ego, DeOrio is gonna get John-Swanned very soon. These toxic narcissists always have skeletons in their closet.
The most insulting part is calling Timmy the sheep, Shaun the sheep
This seems more Twitter Vs Nick than the editor lmao
Poor nBurd. He's so sweet. He doesn't deserve to get shit on.
Meanwhile Bowblax is here milking these tweets for his third video on Creepshow Art.
Fr. Why doesn't Nick call out Bowblax for milking the tweets on every drama/argument?
If you're gonna call out someone for doing something, keep that same energy with your friends. You look like a dumbass when you're surrounded by people that do the same thing you're calling others out on! Not to mention, he's also doing the same shit he's complaining about! The hypocrisy never ends
i mean in fairness the entire point of this channel is to document what goes on in case the tweets get deleted and or to catch people up to speed with what's going on, it's the entire point of his content lol.
@@unseen6940 Never said it was unfair. Bowblax can milk anything he wants and put it on his channel, and I would still watch it.
i don't even get the point of this. the guy edited her videos and wanted to make a comment on the situation. so what if the videos were shitty and didn't even need an editor? that's more on shannon and not on the guy editing them. also, making fun of people for defending their friend against people shitting on them for no reason isn't as funny as you think it is. it's just sad
That's what Tom was making fun of though, Creepshow Art's videos. He respects nate from what I know about the situation and was bantering him slightly too.
Tom and Nick know they are wrong in this situation, but they just wont admit it. They're going to die on this hill.
I like Nick and Tom but their takes imo where shit, yeah they where making a joke and yes i agree this is getting a bit milked but there was no reason to come on him like that. IMO.
I kinda stopped liking Tom after the Pyro stuff but yeah those tweets were shit
@@ghostwater9070 yeah i feel you on that, tom can either hit or completely miss its a 70/30 chance
I wish I could go back to when I hadn't read those two guys' tweets.
I love how Twitter thinks just putting a voice over a speed art thinks that is editing that took hard work lmfao
Omg a reasonable person. It kinda pissed me off when I found out she had an editor cause people have been begging her to ad basic image overlays in her shit. Like most video softwares can do that...but like she was PAYING someone who couldn't even do that?
Maybe she was just trying to give em easy money? I don't know what his stuff was like before but if speeding up footage gives me the right to call myself an editor then I'm a fucking lv 1000 mafia boss.
i am crying about the Nicholas Dedrio story it may be the greatest short story i have ever heard.
Nick needs to calm down lol.
Nathan seems like a genuinely good dude and the way he handled this was pretty great. Very chill and took nothing personally. I see him having a good future in editing and the internet world in general. I wish I could hire him!
After all that, Tom was still left wondering what he edited.
The way this man was milking drama by accusing someone else of milking drama is just making me sad for him.
Imagine getting paid to do 10 minutes of work. Dude had the high life.
Turkey Tom's tweet was more of a dig at Creepshow Art than the editor... why did people get triggered?
Even the editor himself wasn't pressed.
Nicholas blocked me when I tried to criticize, like ACTUALLY tell him why him mocking Emily on Peanut’s stream was bad and he blocked me. Him implying OTHERS can't take cRiTiSism is just... wow.
nBURD: barely saying anything about the "criticisims" and laughing along with the joke
nBURD's friends: REEEEEEEEE
I just look at this video and all the back and forth arguments and feel depressed at the sheer amount of that people spend much of their time on the internet just angrily writing text getting absolutely nowhere
Am i the only one who thinks Turkey Tom's behavior in this was incredibly childish?
"I'm a child" is his usual defense. He broke out "it started a conversation" as a defense for his google doc hitpiece on Pyrocynical.
PO - DIE - AH - TRIST = “Podiatrist.”
That’s the foot doc, BowBlax.
🦶😉🦶
So glad someone said this LOL
I am creepshow's potteriest and this is my story
@@racheldesselle did you put hidden microphones in her plants?
Do people forget that editing is a literal job?
Twitter and YT were FREAKING TF OUT on her friends (and really anyone even vaguely connected to her) cause they didn’t make videos denouncing her quick enough. And then when they do…they freak tf out again. They are tiring.
That is a good point
Why the fuck did creepshow art have an editor.
You should add a winner for these Twitter vs videos.
THAT WOULD MAKE SUCH A GREAT END OF THE YEAR VIDEO!
A recap of all the “Twitter vs. ...” videos.
Then, perhaps a tier-list - with an overall winner. 😃
@@XOChristianaNicole yeah definitely
H3 and Keemstar is basically an eternal war
make it like epic rap battles of history
"WHO WON?"
"WHO'S NEXT?"
"YOU DECIDE"
@@XOChristianaNicole what I meant really was who won for the episode, like did Twitter win or the editor in this instance. But what you said makes sense too.