(no she wasn't actually isekai'd but its a funny headcanon) OKAY SO I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE I THINK ITS PRETTY RELEVANT A lot of MoC players are using Wild Wheat on Natasha to optimize damage. Folks are predicting that Natasha will outheal your max HP, and so there's no need for the healing set. This claim is valid and if you want to squeeze out a bit more damage, you can opt for wild wheat with the same main stat choices, since it will give you that slight damage buff. I can't tell you how to play the game, only give my recommendations, but the healing set is going to be pretty strong throughout the game, Wild Wheat is just a set you can choose to use if you want to optimize a little bit more at the very end of the game, similarly to how some people run pyro damage and Crit circlet on Bennett in Genshin impact. My fault for not including it in the video, I will do better next time 🙏 Multiplication is a LC that lets you advance action by 20% after using a basic, which can help you get more skill points but DRASTICALLY hurt your healing output. That said, honestly not bad. Live right now as of updating this: twitch.tv/braxophone twitter.com/braxophone
Brax j have a question. For Nat E4, is taking damage required or can March 7th skill help with energy farming? The setup would be Nat far side and March just nearby to soak supposed adjacent damage.
An absolute classic, losing the galactic big lotto on the first destructible object in SU so you frantically spend all of your technique points to not lose in the first two minutes
What I love about natacha is that she literally get her self back from death, literally. Her e1 make her heal herself and even if she get oneshotted she won't die, god that saves me alot
I still put Natasha and March together for that extra cleanse. There are some times you just need more cleanse. Since I run my team with Clara both Natasha’s healing and March’s shields are relevant.
That sounds like excessive defense but idk, don’t have clara. With either Natasha or Bailu I think you can forego a shielder entirely. I personally prefer healers since they can keep the party alive without spending skill points (especially Bailu). March 7th’s ult also doesn’t fit her kit at all, it’s kinda bad imo. Basically useless if enemy isn’t ice-weak. For example, you if you have welt you can run dan-natasha-asta-welt, that team won’t need as much mitigation because you’ll supress the enemy turn order a lot.
@@cirkleobserver3217 true u generally don’t need that much defense, later on enemies have aoe attacks and deal out so much damage , so running that much defense is vital. Clara’s best support rn is March because the taunt buff from her shield and with Clara’s dmg reduction you don’t even need to worry about spamming march’s skill to keep the shield up. Only downside is that you actually don’t want to freeze enemies because you want Clara to get hit as much as possible
The thing that worries me is that as amazing as Nat is, with Bailu being largely inaccessible and Luocha on the horizon, it'll probably be a very long time before we get another readily accessible abundance unit. The thing that makes it annoying is the fact that other desirable characters like Kafka might arrive too close to his banner and make it harder to acquire both.
There also is the lightcone with Effect Res. Eff.Res is really rare and kind of essential if you want high consistensy on your healer. You can't heal in a clutch situation if they're frozen, or use her ult if she's Imprisoned.
The other BIG difference between Bailu and Natasha is that your far more likely to max out her Eidolans ...youll likely if your lucky get a single Bailu.
That's the key thing between Natasha and Bailu, unless you're a super whaler, Natasha is the best F2P healer since she's obtainable in the story, unlike Bailu whom you need to pray to the RNG Aeon.
E0 bailu provides a stronger set of support buffs than E6 Natasha, though Bailu lacks debuff cleanse. So if you get Bailu, I’d recommend using her. I’m building them both anyways.
yeah it took me nearly 2 years to get diluc in genshin..There is no telling how long it will take to get one of those standard characters for non whales/dolphins. i do hope to get her if i lose 50/50 but yeah chances are very low.
@@mangshu21 On the flip side, you could have E3 Bailu next week. If you plan on playing the game for a while, it's pretty likely you will end up with eidolons for every standard character
Well, now you convinced me to level up Nat. I've got Bailu from the newcommer banner so that's the place where the healer resources went so far. Perhaps this will allow me to finish the Forgotten Hall since I just gotten to the 2 teams battles and her cleanse might allow me to try other paths than Abundance for SU W5
Having both is ideal for memories imo, since you’re going to need two strong teams. Most of the time I prefer Bailu, but Natasha is good when I specifically need debuff cleanse.
4-pc Passerby can stack so for us who are blessed to have both Nat and Bailu, we can have 5 skill points at the start of the battle! I find it comfy to have two debuff dispellers in the team cos if one got frozen, the other can dispel it :)
@straw they were referring to other cleansers, I thought that was obvious but you are here to prove me and several other people that may happen upon this comment wrong
Idk if it’s worth having two dispellers just to deal with frozen, it doesn’t last long enough to be an issue for me (but then again I have welt). Unless you’re talking bronya-natasha, that would be fine and quite strong. But I predict march 7 is going to fall off miserably, and quite soon. Her ult offers little utility and she has to spend skill points to offer any support. She’s just kind of dead weight once you get access to Natasha.
I got her easy on E6... At some point she won against Kafka, tanking all damage, healing/cleansing herself... while my Hunt slowly took remaning 40% hp on stage 3 of Kafka. That was my first clear.
i did my first run of SU 5 with the hunt resonance with natasha(abundance was unlocked shortly after i started the run, but i couldn't care about leaving to change resonance) and due to my great selection of blessings and curios, i took like 15 turns before kafka had a chance of moving, so yeah, natasha just dispelled every single one of her debuffs
Another thing to mention is while she only cleanses one debuff at a time, if an enemy applies multiple of the same debuff at the same time (like the marastruck's 2 wind shears) she does cleanse both
I have Baliu e0 and Natasha e5 and having them both is a real boon for memory. They’re both way better than shielders imo. Natasha can remove debuffs and Baliu can’t, but otherwise Bailu is better imo (especially at e1). Bronya can remove debuffs so if you have her Bailu is your best option for keeping party alive.
Got her to E6 since her card dropped SO frequently while I was getting Seele (got one in the end lol). At E6, for a healer, she can hit like a truck for those who have her hint hint
I got her E6 while pulling for E6 Hook. Got 3 seele completely F2P which I wasn't looking forward to tbh. But she is just ok for dps. I haven't actually built her for dmg but I'm sure it can work. Especially for breaking shields since she will be autoing alot. She is my 2nd favorite character directly behind Hook. It's super nice how well she works with Fire MC
This game is so weird in that your experience changes drastically depending on what team you have. ATM, I have never used a healer for anything since I own Geppie. But building her up for HoFM she can solo carry my secondary teams in terms of survivability, it's nuts.
I got really lucky with Natasha getting her to e6. She's my only healer and she definetely carries me through content lol. Going to pull for Luocha to get my second healer.
Bailu speed up my game so much because I dropped all my other support characters and went 3 damage dealers, really need to upgrade an offensive support like pela now because shielders are overkill on the defense for me at the moment. Later in game sure I might need to survive being 1 shot, but will I even need to say... build March 7th full defense? Might be able to add some more offensive stats to her because I am running Bailu with her better healing. As long as the shield is big enough to stop enemy doing a 1 shot, or enough to get off a 2-3 counter attacks, might as well add some offensive stats. As a side note, I did get Edilon 1 on Bailu which does make her better at those longer boss fights by giving energy back to heal more often so maybe that helps me a bit.
As someone in the later game, one shots aren't so common that her res won't cover you, and she has built in mitigation anyways so even just having fire MC is plenty of defense
Funny enought my second 10 pop from the Seele set providet me with Natasha and Bailu at once. but since im F2P i decided to build Natasha and not bailu even tho her healing is alot less but i just saw more value overall in Natasha and havent regretet it. im not sure about how much value that brings but Natashas eidolon 6 sounds pretty neet too ive got her up to 4 while pulling for Seele so im pretty sure she will be at 6 eventually maybe she will put out some decent damage too than :D
Wtf man e2 bailu is insane, and have you even looked at her traces? The only thing she lacks is debuff cleanse (which is a big flaw, admittedly) but otherwise she’s just better on account of all the extra utility. Especially if you have Bronya for debuff cleanse, Bailu is the stronger choice.
I picked Perfect Timing and stack as much Eff Resist as I can as that can provide more Outgoing Than other 4* Light Cone. (although stacking 60% Effect Resist may prove to be tough) Plus having a Cleansers being disabled sucks when you need her to cleanse someone else or heal. I foresee that this would be needed for end game. And I can't afford to be raising another Lightcone and abandoning it later.
I feel like when talking about lightcones you really brushed over Perfect Timing, mentioning how it can give outgoing healing but being unlikely to every hit it max... while not saying anything about its real benefit, effect resist. In fact you didn't mention effect resist at all. Effect resistance is one of the most important stats to have on Natasha, if she is frozen, or otherwise CC'd at the wrong time, it can end a run, especially on harder content. More than any other character getting CC'd the healer and cleanser getting CC'd is the worst possible option. Also wouldn't be that difficult to hit the required effect resist to max the outgoing healing anyway, on S1 that is only 45.4 (with 16% being from the weapon), and S5 going to 60 (with 32 being from the weapon). Which means only around 28 effect resistance from the relics is enough to get the full outgoing healing boost. I'd argue that if you are going a generic healing relic set for your abundance characters, substat wise effect res is the most important substat to have followed by HP%, since you can get strong enough to deal with healing difficult content without too many HP% substats, whilst it is good to get as much effect res as you can to cut down on the chances of your healer being CC'd at the wrong moment, and perfect timing both gives a good amount of effect res, and allows effect res to increase your healing potential, making it even more useful. It probably wouldn't be something you get early game, since you'd just go for mainstats and ignore everything else, but it is very achievable once you actually start farming relics. Highest Outgoing healing bonus of the 4 star light cones once geared + a sizable effect resist makes it easily one of the best ones to use if you have it.
when it comes to bailu vs natasha, both are incredible, but it's very much worth noting that bailu's skill bounces, and therefore may not actually .. heal who you want it to heal. natasha is much more guaranteed if you need single target healing. i use them both but i actually benched bailu for some time because natasha was just... a better guarantee. bailu's revive is nice but i'd prefer to be able to heal the allies who are actually dying so they don't, y'know, die in the first place. the sheer number of times i've watched bailu's skill bounce twice on someone with full hp has been... borderline frustrating sjfjsj
@fuyukiryujin3723 huh, i suppose you're right. i suppose it may only feel like nat heals more single target, but i'm not sure why - the numbers of bailu's first bounce heal are not that far off from nat's single heal. i think it may actually be the use of skills alongside natasha's talent that swayed me, because her outgoing healing gets super boosted if the ally is below 30% hp, and i simply have a lot more trouble keeping one individual ally healed with bailu on the team, like with someone like clara who wants to be smacked around a bit and can drop low health by herself. i would probably still use nat for single target needs personally but it's not a big enough deal to make or break anything of course !! just felt it worth noting in the original comment dkfjdjk
I got 5 Natashas, 6 hooks, 3 arlans, himeko before I got seele. I'm so happy that my healer is great, but idk if I like hook yet, but she is for sure better than himeko
The key with Nat is if you put her near the character with high aggro she'll get hit by enemy aoe attacks which means you regenerate her energy faster. Because of this if all you want is healing then you can only use her basic attack(and an occasional skill in an emergency situation), this makes her the best healer in a Seele team.
All of Baliu’s utility works off of her ult, and it’s quite strong & versatile. Natasha has a lot of bonuses that add extra healing when hp is low, but this may become irrelevant, whereas Bailu has absolutely cracked stuff like buffing max hp (potentially a big deal for any dmg chars that could scale off hp). Bailu’s only real shortcoming is that she can’t remove debuffs, but you can pair her with Bronya and probably other future support chars to address this (or March 7, but I think she’s destined for D tier very soon)
We only have 2 healers rn, so it's not even necessary to compare Bailu vs Natasha, but Natasha is amazing since she has a cleanse which makes her slightly better kit wise.
my natasha build is outgoing healing > energy regen > SPD for stats, and anything that can further increase outgoing healing first and foremost followed by energy regen
If you have bronya Bailu is the better choice, otherwise it’s situational. The utility Bailu offers is much stronger, she can buff max hp and reduce damage taken (Natasha just gets extra healing, which will probably be overkill in the long run). E1 Baliu is potentially cracked af. Still I think healers are just way better than shielders so it’s good to have both so you can put one on each memory team.
there's a card in Simulated Universe that gives the revive upon death thing if rng be with you. also i usually tell myself "if you're playing for death, you're probably playing wrong" anyways so the plan at most times is to not die.
I play : Champion of Streetwise Boxing : Crit+Crit dmg +Atk% // Talia Kingdom of Banditry : Physical damage +Atk% Light cone :Post-Op Conversation . You still have an incredible healer but , her basic attacks actually hit really really hard ! On tope of that the break effect is stupid good. With Asta and Bronya , you have a core team that deals tons of damage and can heal a lot . If you don't have Bronya , use Pela instead as a debuffer (because she's broken) .
I overestimated Bailu quite a bit simply because 5* (duh) and more healing power. Hence why I just ignored Natasha most of the time, except for some basic relics to run her with the bare minimum if a second team is needed. Her clense however becomes so clutch (I don't have Bronya) at the later content that I ended up leaving bailu behind a fair bit instead. Second time your videos have changed my perspective about some characters, a well deserved sub.
Since you did Natasha, any chance Bailus will follow? I have a good idea where I want to go, using march on my team, but I’d like to see what you’d have to say as an overall healer
If you have a healer you probably don’t need march, imo. My problem with march is that she HAS to spend skill points offer any support, which isn’t true for either healer. You can just stack energy regen on the healers and have them keep the party alive with their bursts. That leaves you with 3 slots for damage & offensive support. Plus, march’s ult doesn’t fit her kit at all.
Sometimes when I see that Nat ends up going really low, I panic and hit the ult button to get some out-of-turn healing. Then I remember I have E1, she heals to full anyways, and there's no way to cancel the ult.
Cleanse is very valuable in the game. I have both Natasha and Bailu. Whenever I use Natasha, I always partner her either with Fire MC or Gepard. When I use Bailu, I always partner her with March 7th so I can still have access with cleanse.
Imagine for a moment that Sora(a sickly child honkai natasha adopted) gets isekai'd into Star Rail on Jarilo IX and meets natasha i can't imagine she'd have too much trouble accepting her new line of work
This reminds me of my first time playing and I was stressed because Hoyoverse didn’t wanna give any sort of abundance character so March 7th had to carry the team for so long 😭
Braxophone: Not running a presevation unit in a hypercarry team. Me: 😂 LoL at my solo gepard with no healer that uses the 3 star light cone defense that heals upon ult to survive MoC.
why healing bonus on the body instead Hp%? HP% translates in healing bonus, since Natasha healing scales with HP, and moreover HP is good for survivability and damage (if you have e6, which is quite easy to get).
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OKAY SO I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE I THINK ITS PRETTY RELEVANT
A lot of MoC players are using Wild Wheat on Natasha to optimize damage. Folks are predicting that Natasha will outheal your max HP, and so there's no need for the healing set. This claim is valid and if you want to squeeze out a bit more damage, you can opt for wild wheat with the same main stat choices, since it will give you that slight damage buff. I can't tell you how to play the game, only give my recommendations, but the healing set is going to be pretty strong throughout the game, Wild Wheat is just a set you can choose to use if you want to optimize a little bit more at the very end of the game, similarly to how some people run pyro damage and Crit circlet on Bennett in Genshin impact. My fault for not including it in the video, I will do better next time 🙏
Multiplication is a LC that lets you advance action by 20% after using a basic, which can help you get more skill points but DRASTICALLY hurt your healing output. That said, honestly not bad.
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Wouldn't this only be viable with Nat at E6?
Thanks for the guide…
I was caught up on your twitch stream, so i was late on watching this😆
@@HeroMysticnope E0 but have some trace specially the cleanse is already good
Omg again, someone was offended for not including "obligatory"" I can't tell you how to play"? This is ridiculous at this point
Brax j have a question. For Nat E4, is taking damage required or can March 7th skill help with energy farming?
The setup would be Nat far side and March just nearby to soak supposed adjacent damage.
My favorite part about Natasha is how the Trailblazer is down for her
No
who wouldn't be doc figure got anyone acting unwise 💀
BIG TRUE MC IS TRULY CULTURED INDEED
I swear on little left toe they were majorly simpin for her.
Natasha and Kafka will fight to see who will get Trailblazer 💦
Natasha got me the achievement for going into a boss fight with all character 1% and no one dying. She is an absolute monster.
An absolute classic, losing the galactic big lotto on the first destructible object in SU so you frantically spend all of your technique points to not lose in the first two minutes
@@AnonymousInternetUserLaine or if MC is in your team, switch to their destruction path, use their technique, and then switch back.
@@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi ahhahahaha and tought almost no one abused the free insta heal good to know there are others who knew about it
You can also use the f2p We Are Wildfire light cone for healing before battle.
There is also an achievement to win with that percentage of hp at the end of the fight. Seele made it possible.
What I love about natacha is that she literally get her self back from death, literally. Her e1 make her heal herself and even if she get oneshotted she won't die, god that saves me alot
unfortunately its only 1 heal for herself per run, doesnt really help if she gets randomly attacked by every enememy for no readon like my natasha ☠️
@@shogun3292 use fire mc paired with landaus choice and nat shouldnt be getting hit much if at all.
@@505reaper8 i dont like the mc
@@shogun3292 then it's on you to get Gepard or use March. Either way, you're missing out on the free option Trailblazer's utility.
@@shogun3292 now thats a skill issue- are really getting natacha to death more than 1 time per Battle 💀
I still put Natasha and March together for that extra cleanse. There are some times you just need more cleanse. Since I run my team with Clara both Natasha’s healing and March’s shields are relevant.
not a bad idea honestly
That sounds like excessive defense but idk, don’t have clara. With either Natasha or Bailu I think you can forego a shielder entirely. I personally prefer healers since they can keep the party alive without spending skill points (especially Bailu). March 7th’s ult also doesn’t fit her kit at all, it’s kinda bad imo. Basically useless if enemy isn’t ice-weak.
For example, you if you have welt you can run dan-natasha-asta-welt, that team won’t need as much mitigation because you’ll supress the enemy turn order a lot.
@@cirkleobserver3217March isnt there for her shields, its for her taunt on shielded unit
@@cirkleobserver3217 true u generally don’t need that much defense, later on enemies have aoe attacks and deal out so much damage , so running that much defense is vital.
Clara’s best support rn is March because the taunt buff from her shield and with Clara’s dmg reduction you don’t even need to worry about spamming march’s skill to keep the shield up.
Only downside is that you actually don’t want to freeze enemies because you want Clara to get hit as much as possible
Me fighting Kafka in Sim Universe with Nat, March and Bronya: "This is supposed to be hard?"
The thing that worries me is that as amazing as Nat is, with Bailu being largely inaccessible and Luocha on the horizon, it'll probably be a very long time before we get another readily accessible abundance unit. The thing that makes it annoying is the fact that other desirable characters like Kafka might arrive too close to his banner and make it harder to acquire both.
Me skipping over the healer when I only have Nat cause I don't wanna miss Kafka... :')
i think we can all agree that we need more free units in this game
There's going to be like 2 new healers later on 1 4* and 1 5*
Blade banner is after Kafka so rip lol
They 100% do it on purpose. More money for them dude
Bailu vs Natasha ❌
Bailu AND Natasha ✅
Milf loli combo I guess lol
Bailu vs Natasha ❌
Bailu And Natasha ❌
Bailu X Natasha 🗿
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+ gepard and fire mc
There also is the lightcone with Effect Res. Eff.Res is really rare and kind of essential if you want high consistensy on your healer. You can't heal in a clutch situation if they're frozen, or use her ult if she's Imprisoned.
“If you have bronia you don’t need natasha’s cleanse” . Me playing with bronya, march and natasha😂
same bro my natasha and bronya keep cleansing my serval who's always getting targeted.
You need Natasha AND Bailu if you want clear higher endgame content with two teams of 4 characters 😎
facts
Gepard is my bailu
The other BIG difference between Bailu and Natasha is that your far more likely to max out her Eidolans ...youll likely if your lucky get a single Bailu.
That's the key thing between Natasha and Bailu, unless you're a super whaler, Natasha is the best F2P healer since she's obtainable in the story, unlike Bailu whom you need to pray to the RNG Aeon.
E0 bailu provides a stronger set of support buffs than E6 Natasha, though Bailu lacks debuff cleanse. So if you get Bailu, I’d recommend using her. I’m building them both anyways.
yeah it took me nearly 2 years to get diluc in genshin..There is no telling how long it will take to get one of those standard characters for non whales/dolphins. i do hope to get her if i lose 50/50 but yeah chances are very low.
@@mangshu21 On the flip side, you could have E3 Bailu next week. If you plan on playing the game for a while, it's pretty likely you will end up with eidolons for every standard character
There also another VERY big difference between nat and Bailu
Well, now you convinced me to level up Nat. I've got Bailu from the newcommer banner so that's the place where the healer resources went so far. Perhaps this will allow me to finish the Forgotten Hall since I just gotten to the 2 teams battles and her cleanse might allow me to try other paths than Abundance for SU W5
Not perhaps, it would definitely help you progress further.. unless you have gepard and can kill stuff fast
Well, as a fellow Bailu haver, having both is just a lifesaver in the Abyss like mode.
Having both is ideal for memories imo, since you’re going to need two strong teams. Most of the time I prefer Bailu, but Natasha is good when I specifically need debuff cleanse.
Game blessed me with bailu and e6 Natasha.
E6 Natasha is crazy.
I have their respective lightcones too
For SU6, Path of Abundance with that Subduing Evil is a godsend.
4-pc Passerby can stack so for us who are blessed to have both Nat and Bailu, we can have 5 skill points at the start of the battle!
I find it comfy to have two debuff dispellers in the team cos if one got frozen, the other can dispel it :)
True nat and bronya on the same team is good with their cleanse
Until they both get frozen because cocolia hates your guts
@straw they were referring to other cleansers, I thought that was obvious but you are here to prove me and several other people that may happen upon this comment wrong
Idk if it’s worth having two dispellers just to deal with frozen, it doesn’t last long enough to be an issue for me (but then again I have welt). Unless you’re talking bronya-natasha, that would be fine and quite strong. But I predict march 7 is going to fall off miserably, and quite soon. Her ult offers little utility and she has to spend skill points to offer any support. She’s just kind of dead weight once you get access to Natasha.
Why are you running Bailu and Natasha together???
Best content creator. I'm always on my toes waiting for your vids
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I got her easy on E6...
At some point she won against Kafka, tanking all damage, healing/cleansing herself... while my Hunt slowly took remaning 40% hp on stage 3 of Kafka.
That was my first clear.
damn o.o
i did my first run of SU 5 with the hunt resonance with natasha(abundance was unlocked shortly after i started the run, but i couldn't care about leaving to change resonance) and due to my great selection of blessings and curios, i took like 15 turns before kafka had a chance of moving, so yeah, natasha just dispelled every single one of her debuffs
She's a 10/10. Really all-purpose
When it comes to being an abundance character, yeah. I'm glad they didn't skimp out on features when it came to 4 stars.
Another thing to mention is while she only cleanses one debuff at a time, if an enemy applies multiple of the same debuff at the same time (like the marastruck's 2 wind shears) she does cleanse both
Loving your Star Rail guides Brax!
since you can't dodge unlike genshin, i feel like shield and healing units will always be needed
Just press shift
Love the custom robo OSTs!
Thank you for making this series!
I have both. Bailu heals a lot more, like a lot a lot. But Natasha is better if you need dispel and don't have bronya.
March 7th can cleanse too so. Bailu + March already made you unkillable.
Got to memories of chaos 6(my wall now) as f2p thx to Bailu
Always run Nat directly next to your Fire MC. Having her get hit to regen some energy is amazing. My team legit has 2 dps units bc of her and Fire MC.
If you tried your E4 Natasha with Wind Set and Cone Post-Op Conversation, she will rule the end game!
You may change the cone to Quid Quo Pro and use march on Natasha to take most damage!
I have Baliu e0 and Natasha e5 and having them both is a real boon for memory. They’re both way better than shielders imo. Natasha can remove debuffs and Baliu can’t, but otherwise Bailu is better imo (especially at e1). Bronya can remove debuffs so if you have her Bailu is your best option for keeping party alive.
I only have an E1 Nat :( cause the game told me to main Hook E5 and Pela E6 instead.
Got her to E6 since her card dropped SO frequently while I was getting Seele (got one in the end lol). At E6, for a healer, she can hit like a truck for those who have her hint hint
same i have her E6 and her light cone. at world 6 and i just need a shield unit or other healer/dps for a team 2
I got her E6 while pulling for E6 Hook. Got 3 seele completely F2P which I wasn't looking forward to tbh. But she is just ok for dps. I haven't actually built her for dmg but I'm sure it can work. Especially for breaking shields since she will be autoing alot. She is my 2nd favorite character directly behind Hook. It's super nice how well she works with Fire MC
Also got E6 natasha while hook and pela is at E1. Got Seele at the end of 50/50 so it was nice.
This game is so weird in that your experience changes drastically depending on what team you have. ATM, I have never used a healer for anything since I own Geppie. But building her up for HoFM she can solo carry my secondary teams in terms of survivability, it's nuts.
Thanks for this.
I was deciding between Quid Pro Quo, Post Op and Perfect timing, especially as QpQ can wiff on it's condition.
My team has both Natasha and full def build Gepard and with her occasional healing and his shielding, my Seele is immortal
I got really lucky with Natasha getting her to e6. She's my only healer and she definetely carries me through content lol. Going to pull for Luocha to get my second healer.
omgggg when i wake up its a brax video. when i go to sleep its a brax video !!!
honestly love the content ❤🎉
Bailu speed up my game so much because I dropped all my other support characters and went 3 damage dealers, really need to upgrade an offensive support like pela now because shielders are overkill on the defense for me at the moment. Later in game sure I might need to survive being 1 shot, but will I even need to say... build March 7th full defense? Might be able to add some more offensive stats to her because I am running Bailu with her better healing. As long as the shield is big enough to stop enemy doing a 1 shot, or enough to get off a 2-3 counter attacks, might as well add some offensive stats.
As a side note, I did get Edilon 1 on Bailu which does make her better at those longer boss fights by giving energy back to heal more often so maybe that helps me a bit.
Bailu e1 gives energy to the whole party, my guy.
As someone in the later game, one shots aren't so common that her res won't cover you, and she has built in mitigation anyways so even just having fire MC is plenty of defense
Current MoC blessing favors hypercarry teams so offensive supports are probably better
I got E6 Nat out of sheer luck and she's just awesome honestly, along with Gepard, both my Seele and Bronya are basically immortal, really good unit
Funny enought my second 10 pop from the Seele set providet me with Natasha and Bailu at once. but since im F2P i decided to build Natasha and not bailu even tho her healing is alot less but i just saw more value overall in Natasha and havent regretet it. im not sure about how much value that brings but Natashas eidolon 6 sounds pretty neet too ive got her up to 4 while pulling for Seele so im pretty sure she will be at 6 eventually maybe she will put out some decent damage too than :D
I have E2 Bailu and E4 Natasha and I find myself running Natasha allot more than I do Bailu.
As someone who has both. I also use Natasha(like by A LOT) more than Bailu.
Wtf man e2 bailu is insane, and have you even looked at her traces? The only thing she lacks is debuff cleanse (which is a big flaw, admittedly) but otherwise she’s just better on account of all the extra utility. Especially if you have Bronya for debuff cleanse, Bailu is the stronger choice.
@@cirkleobserver3217 but bronya is not free natasha is..
I got e6 nat and e2 bailu, and i think bailu is more reliable in pushing harder fights.
I have E0 Bailu and E6 Natasha and Natasha is really not compatible for actual survivability
just a question, what does spd do? may sound dumb but like.. does it increase your damage orrr?
Custom Robo music! I haven't heard that in a while, thanks for the guide!
I picked Perfect Timing and stack as much Eff Resist as I can as that can provide more Outgoing Than other 4* Light Cone. (although stacking 60% Effect Resist may prove to be tough) Plus having a Cleansers being disabled sucks when you need her to cleanse someone else or heal. I foresee that this would be needed for end game. And I can't afford to be raising another Lightcone and abandoning it later.
No fucking shot you put custom robo music in this video, I love you
I feel like when talking about lightcones you really brushed over Perfect Timing, mentioning how it can give outgoing healing but being unlikely to every hit it max... while not saying anything about its real benefit, effect resist. In fact you didn't mention effect resist at all.
Effect resistance is one of the most important stats to have on Natasha, if she is frozen, or otherwise CC'd at the wrong time, it can end a run, especially on harder content. More than any other character getting CC'd the healer and cleanser getting CC'd is the worst possible option.
Also wouldn't be that difficult to hit the required effect resist to max the outgoing healing anyway, on S1 that is only 45.4 (with 16% being from the weapon), and S5 going to 60 (with 32 being from the weapon). Which means only around 28 effect resistance from the relics is enough to get the full outgoing healing boost.
I'd argue that if you are going a generic healing relic set for your abundance characters, substat wise effect res is the most important substat to have followed by HP%, since you can get strong enough to deal with healing difficult content without too many HP% substats, whilst it is good to get as much effect res as you can to cut down on the chances of your healer being CC'd at the wrong moment, and perfect timing both gives a good amount of effect res, and allows effect res to increase your healing potential, making it even more useful.
It probably wouldn't be something you get early game, since you'd just go for mainstats and ignore everything else, but it is very achievable once you actually start farming relics. Highest Outgoing healing bonus of the 4 star light cones once geared + a sizable effect resist makes it easily one of the best ones to use if you have it.
Hearing the custom robo soundtrack in the background actually made my day
Lol, great video, but totally got distracted by the coffee shop version of Shadows Bringers in the bg 😂
not just amazing she insanely good! her skill has cleanser and her er is charge fast!
Ohh shiit i didnt realize Raven in natashas face and her care for children is also there
wow this guide slays haha another great video from my favourite content creator braxophone haha
A isekai about a evil person wanting to redeem themselves in that world sounds neat
the bait title for those without bailu 💀
good job
Hey brax, could you do a video on what different stats do, and how much of each we should aim for in each type of character?
Ayo custom robo music at 6:19 on a guide to my favorite 4 star in the game (also nice timing this guide be on Mother's day😂)
Thank you so much for your guides, without them I'd be so lost
Warmth Shortens Cold Nights is extremely useful in simulated universe for getting abundance path effects to trigger constantly.
bro background music from custom robo... havent heard that in ages
Thank you !!! This was really helpful. Please make one for Himeko too !!!
when it comes to bailu vs natasha, both are incredible, but it's very much worth noting that bailu's skill bounces, and therefore may not actually .. heal who you want it to heal. natasha is much more guaranteed if you need single target healing. i use them both but i actually benched bailu for some time because natasha was just... a better guarantee. bailu's revive is nice but i'd prefer to be able to heal the allies who are actually dying so they don't, y'know, die in the first place. the sheer number of times i've watched bailu's skill bounce twice on someone with full hp has been... borderline frustrating sjfjsj
@fuyukiryujin3723 huh, i suppose you're right. i suppose it may only feel like nat heals more single target, but i'm not sure why - the numbers of bailu's first bounce heal are not that far off from nat's single heal. i think it may actually be the use of skills alongside natasha's talent that swayed me, because her outgoing healing gets super boosted if the ally is below 30% hp, and i simply have a lot more trouble keeping one individual ally healed with bailu on the team, like with someone like clara who wants to be smacked around a bit and can drop low health by herself. i would probably still use nat for single target needs personally but it's not a big enough deal to make or break anything of course !! just felt it worth noting in the original comment dkfjdjk
great video, good ffxiv music choices brother
Love the Custom Robo music. Great taste
I got 5 Natashas, 6 hooks, 3 arlans, himeko before I got seele. I'm so happy that my healer is great, but idk if I like hook yet, but she is for sure better than himeko
Yooooo I hear that Custom Robo music lol 6:28
The key with Nat is if you put her near the character with high aggro she'll get hit by enemy aoe attacks which means you regenerate her energy faster. Because of this if all you want is healing then you can only use her basic attack(and an occasional skill in an emergency situation), this makes her the best healer in a Seele team.
I did this unintentionally just because i like shielder > healer > debuff > dps positions, thanks now i got valid reason to continue haha
So if I put Nat next to Ting, I'll be able to generate the energy even faster! Xd
Commenting for that algorithm ; )
Bailu‘s revive is just so valuable that it makes her a must run in every team
All of Baliu’s utility works off of her ult, and it’s quite strong & versatile. Natasha has a lot of bonuses that add extra healing when hp is low, but this may become irrelevant, whereas Bailu has absolutely cracked stuff like buffing max hp (potentially a big deal for any dmg chars that could scale off hp).
Bailu’s only real shortcoming is that she can’t remove debuffs, but you can pair her with Bronya and probably other future support chars to address this (or March 7, but I think she’s destined for D tier very soon)
@@cirkleobserver3217 If only her arrow dmg somehow scale from Def, like how MC Perseverance did.
Bailu's revive is worthless lmao
@@naughty822 what if you're only dps were to die? Who's doing the dmg then?
@@naughty822 idk about that man she saved my ass alot of time with her revive
We only have 2 healers rn, so it's not even necessary to compare Bailu vs Natasha, but Natasha is amazing since she has a cleanse which makes her slightly better kit wise.
No you can’t really compare a cleanse to a revive? Bailu is better hands down. Not arguing by the way just enjoy these discussions
@@mickybb1232 if the healing is good is there a need for revive?
it is.
Revive? If u dont die its useless
But lots of bosses hv debuff n cc
Cleanse is more value for me, on top of that she heal + cleanse at the e same time
@@mickybb1232 okay, fair enough, I would just probably just pair Bailu with March 7th then Natasha with Fire MC. Best of both worlds.
got her to e6 before evening trying her (i have geppie) may have to get her some kits now!
I see you with that custom robo ost.
Murder doctors are something i didnt know i was into until i played FGO and now i have one with a granade launcher.
3:00 is that Love live music theme? XD
outro has sick nier music
The only free healer out of the 2 healers in the game omg
Nat's debuff removal came in clutch many times
my natasha build is outgoing healing > energy regen > SPD for stats, and anything that can further increase outgoing healing first and foremost followed by energy regen
Brax, can u do a video of How to build Gepard and Serval pls?
i mean even if natasha has the cleanse bailu has a revive, really depends on if you value the comfort of extra survivability i guess
If you have bronya Bailu is the better choice, otherwise it’s situational. The utility Bailu offers is much stronger, she can buff max hp and reduce damage taken (Natasha just gets extra healing, which will probably be overkill in the long run). E1 Baliu is potentially cracked af.
Still I think healers are just way better than shielders so it’s good to have both so you can put one on each memory team.
I got C6 Natasha her cleanse is so good, not having Bailu’s revive in Simulated Universe kinda annoying tho
there's a card in Simulated Universe that gives the revive upon death thing if rng be with you.
also i usually tell myself "if you're playing for death, you're probably playing wrong" anyways so the plan at most times is to not die.
Hey FFXIV music in the background, nice nice
that custom robo song hit hard ngl
I play : Champion of Streetwise Boxing : Crit+Crit dmg +Atk% // Talia Kingdom of Banditry : Physical damage +Atk%
Light cone :Post-Op Conversation .
You still have an incredible healer but , her basic attacks actually hit really really hard ! On tope of that the break effect is stupid good. With Asta and Bronya , you have a core team that deals tons of damage and can heal a lot .
If you don't have Bronya , use Pela instead as a debuffer (because she's broken) .
March has saved me soo often
I breathed a sigh of relief when I pulled Bailu at 75 soft pity on standard yesterday
From fire dps bow user to healing grenade launcher
I overestimated Bailu quite a bit simply because 5* (duh) and more healing power.
Hence why I just ignored Natasha most of the time, except for some basic relics to run her with the bare minimum if a second team is needed.
Her clense however becomes so clutch (I don't have Bronya) at the later content that I ended up leaving bailu behind a fair bit instead.
Second time your videos have changed my perspective about some characters, a well deserved sub.
I have her E6 with Bailu’s cone, you can imagine how happy I am about that pretty easily lol
Since you did Natasha, any chance Bailus will follow? I have a good idea where I want to go, using march on my team, but I’d like to see what you’d have to say as an overall healer
If you have a healer you probably don’t need march, imo. My problem with march is that she HAS to spend skill points offer any support, which isn’t true for either healer. You can just stack energy regen on the healers and have them keep the party alive with their bursts. That leaves you with 3 slots for damage & offensive support. Plus, march’s ult doesn’t fit her kit at all.
If you build up Bailu you really won't need any other defensive characters for anything but the hardest possible content
I got a Natasha ad while waiting for your video 😂😂😂
@Braxophone, is that Neath Dark Waters playing on the first part of the vid? I see you bro 😉
One thing bad about her is that i cant make another team without her
😂😂
I actually got bailu;s 5 star light cone, and its fucking insane with natasha :P
Sometimes when I see that Nat ends up going really low, I panic and hit the ult button to get some out-of-turn healing. Then I remember I have E1, she heals to full anyways, and there's no way to cancel the ult.
Got an E5 Nat on my main team. Together with my E0 Geppy they provide an incredible amount of sustain to the team.
Wow, Natasha! I wonder if she is an underworld doctor. If only there was a 5 second ad that could tell me if she was or not.
Cleanse is very valuable in the game.
I have both Natasha and Bailu.
Whenever I use Natasha, I always partner her either with Fire MC or Gepard.
When I use Bailu, I always partner her with March 7th so I can still have access with cleanse.
Imagine for a moment that Sora(a sickly child honkai natasha adopted) gets isekai'd into Star Rail on Jarilo IX and meets natasha i can't imagine she'd have too much trouble accepting her new line of work
I can guarantee you, a lot of people here do know how to build Natasha(even just a little bit), your videos are just really entertaining❤
I have E3 Natasha. I'm hoping I can get her to E6.
This reminds me of my first time playing and I was stressed because Hoyoverse didn’t wanna give any sort of abundance character so March 7th had to carry the team for so long 😭
Braxophone: Not running a presevation unit in a hypercarry team.
Me: 😂 LoL at my solo gepard with no healer that uses the 3 star light cone defense that heals upon ult to survive MoC.
why healing bonus on the body instead Hp%?
HP% translates in healing bonus, since Natasha healing scales with HP, and moreover HP is good for survivability and damage (if you have e6, which is quite easy to get).
blud was not cooking here 💀
shout out to peep that have E6 nats with phys dmg bonus on their build
she is the healer, carry, and possibly 2nd tank as she have lot of hp
Was looking for the title "Natasha is actually BROKEN. Best Natasha Guide & Build."
Yeah the click baiting is real lmao I just dislike videos on that alone even if the video is OK
He needs em views so bad, man. How else would he bait non bailu players? 😂