Patriot Games (1992) - Satellites
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- Опубліковано 26 січ 2013
- Patriot Games (1992) - Satellites
CIA analyst Jack Ryan and his team are trying to find an IRA training camp in North Africa using Imagery and Geospatial Intelligence (IMINT and GEOINT). - Фільми й анімація
Men of Culture, solving international terrorist networks.
"Arab Spring was queer."
The technology used in this film seemed so futuristic and amazing when it hit the theaters. It all looks ancient now.
Still looks pretty modern to me. Remember this was the 1990s in which there was a surge in the shifting of technology.
Same diligence.
3:48
"Are you sure this is the same woman?"
"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
I know one definite truth about the CIA, FBI, NSA. If the coffee machine is broken, it is not a nice place to be around in.
Hell, that's any American office.
Don't know about that cause humpty trumpty s office had a good coffee maker but it was still a disaster.
@@edwardmoore5325 Those sophisticated Flavias, Keurigs, Starbucks, etc, etc was just quick, instant coffee on the run. The old style decanters, drip coffee machines using real grinds is what most wanted.
A lot of them use the automatic drip coffee machines that drip into pump thermoses. Some still liked the glass decanters though.
@@edwardmoore5325 better than biddy tiddys office when he sh*t his pants. That or when he's falling all over stage or on a flight of stairs.
"Do you have any idea how big a deal it is to re-task those satellites?"
"Yeah... that's why I just laid all this shit out."
I would not expect Tom Clancy to know this, particularly in 1987 when Patriot Games was written, but electro-optical satellites (even Talent Keyhole reconnaissance satellites) take imagery from nadir to very oblique angles. "Retasking" a satellite is not a terribly big deal, really it amounts to shuffling the satellites target deck so that the intended target is earlier or later in the lineup so that the satellite views it from a different position. And while I love the idea of the FMV satellite feed over the camp when they attack, such a thing is just not that feasable with even current technology. This presumes that he is talking about changing the targeting order and not something like changing the orbit. They (the NRO) do not change satellite orbits for anyone.
At the time of the book and later the movie, NASA and USGS was the primary source of overhead unclassified imagery to draw from when doing research into such things. Much of it was (very) low resolution, and often was restricted to near nadir shots to maximize apparent ground resolution. Thus oblique shots were hard to come by.
Fun fact: the guy in the glasses 🤓 is Ted Raimi (brother of director Sam Raimi).
NERRRRRRRRRRRD
Ted acted in seaQuest DSV.
@@jonnysupremeYep. Proud of it too!
Those KH-11s & KH-12 satellites are legendary. Jack Ryan, my hero 🍺👌 passing the time during this Corona.
Never thought id ever hear Darth Vadar mention the SAS LOL
This was 30 years ago. Now they could read the tattoo writing on the woman's boob. No photo recon, all digital and more powerful. The real -time level of resolution would amaze you. They wouldn't send in SAS, they'd use drones and wipe them all out. No big deal. Boom.
They could do that during the cold war. Now they can see someone masturbate through a roof.
Crazy to think how far we've come.
okay general
@@TreXXen you're damn right it's okay, Private.
Read a tattoo from an orbital satellite? I'm skeptical. From a surveillance drone, sure. From a satellite, through atmospheric distortions? I doubt it.
It’s not a big surprise that weapons used in the Lord Homes incident were traced to an arms dealer that supplied Gaddafi - he was a big supplier of the IRA.
and obama had him killed
3:12 - "Give me a hard copy, right there."
Harrison Fords face really just sells the whole joke forward.
Blade Runner reference in the map analysis scene
Google Earth in 1992.
Yes. All of these technologies were military before being released into commercial hands, after they were plaintifully exploited it.
Google didn't existed before 1997
One of my favorite scenes 👍
3:49 Yes...I...felt her presence.
_"Do you have any idea how big a deal it is to re-task those satellites?"_
Of course, if the enemy knows when the satellites will be overhead and can hide from them, then what's the point?
They're useless for their intended purpose until you re-task them. The job may be hard to do, but the logic behind why to do it isn't.
Couldn't you use a U-2 rather than a satellite?
@@TheRealTburt Perhaps, but the CIA wasn't using the U-2 in the 1990s. They'd have to ask the U.S. Air Force.
I knew the moment I heard the music the first time I watched this that it was James Horner. Strong similarities to his work on Braveheart.
Elsewhere in the film his Aliens soundtrack gets reused too
Horner was kinda notorious for recycling some of his own music from earlier films. But there was still enough original material there to make each soundtrack unique from his other works.
Yeah if the Blade runner reference wasn't 110% intentional id be surprised. :)
What Blade Runner reference?
@@DaftSwank zooming/enhancing of photos. It's practically a meme in and of itself.
Enhance
Reminds same hans solo and dark Vader from Star Wars films
Now, we have photoshop and windows apps to do the image analysis.
Grand Moff Tarkin, Windows?!?! 😂
Yeah but back then the Intel 486 was the shit 😆
My grandfather told my parents one day he was working clerk for a big commander (First gulf war I think), anyway he usually went by John to most people he clerked but this commander who it was obvious was a Tom Clancy fan (this was around PG) kept asking why aren't you SAS? The answer was his eyesight, grandfather received it from his dad.
John Clerk. Hehehe
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I wish he would give this role one more go.. I liked Harry as Jack Ran.
“Enhance. Enhance.”
When Keyhole Hexagon was where it was at.
Why the "Dramatic Zoom" on Marty?
Because he didn't liked the idea of retasking the satellite.
I want full movie
Enhance!
Would they have had digital cameras on spy satellites by 1992 or shot on a reel of film and digitized it before transmitting?
Call TRW tech support, they might still have sales pamphlet.
Digital by KH11. The ones that took film tossed the exposed ones into the Earth to be caught by cargo planes (KH4 Corona)
This could be Rick Deckard's grandfather....
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Cortana
3:15 to 3:30 yeah she has nice ones!
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How would the IRA unit know when the CIA satellites are overhead?
Probably tipped off by their Libyan hosts who got intel from the Soviets.
now you can go online and see the sats in real time. not sure if CIA ones are on display
it came out not to long ago that many heads of ira were actually part of three letter agencies..
A telescope and basic astronomy math,
Or helpful intelligence.
lmao "enhance"
Does the CIA really have discretionary control over the SAS.
The SAS doesn't need any motivation from the CIA to want to take out IRA. The CIA is just pointing them in the right direction.
No but if the US let slip to the Brits its an IRA camp the SAS will do the rest
All you have to is call it cooperative intelligence sharing, and maybe throw a few million in operational funding their way, and SAS will hit just about anything on earth.
They'd just pass this across the pond. The IRA was a British issue.
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If America uses British SAS instead of their own special forces is a testimony to how lethal SAS are
It's also a sort of plausible deniability thing, I'm sure.
they use whoever is closest to the target really, North Africa is sort of where the SAS was operating at the time, I do believe in the book it was French SF since they operate in Africa too
They would have used the SAS for political reasons.
Technically, America wasn't at war with the IRA, and it would have pissed off a lot of Irish-Americans if American special forces were used.
@@gaelicreaction1049Exactly, and the SAS would have already been conducting direct and covert action against paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland.
Scott?
Zoom and enhance cliche.
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Has nothing to do with this movie.
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This movie has been completely forgotten....and for good reason. It was terrible!
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Satellite technology, even in the ‘90s, was way better than that. They could zoom in enough to see the rank on soldiers’ shoulders.
There’s a funny inside story about the second Hubble Telescope. If you put a dime on top of the Washington Monument in DC, you could read the writing on it with the Hubble from LA. NASA had a back-up Hubble they never launched and offered it to the National Reconnaissance Office. The NRO turned them down saying it was too large and they had better, smaller things anyway.
The NRO then handed down two older telescopes to NASA that were better than the Hubble.
www.space.com/16000-spy-satellites-space-telescopes-nasa.html
Wouldn’t they need to rotate the solar panels 180° to use a hubble class sat to look at the earth. Plus the fact that they would have opposite light sensitivity requirement…
@@G_de_Coligny that may be why the NRO declined using it.
Didn't NASA take ex spy sat tech and use it for the Mar's mapping missions? I feel like I heard a story similar to yours, they basically gave them the satellites and told this was old equipment and the NRO had better stuff they would be using.
@@Swarm509 they did. The NRO gave them two older telescopes, from the 70s I believe, that were equal to or better than the Hubble. They were outdated tech to the NRO.
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