Mintskull didnt talk about this( because obviously it's about addons and not offerings ) but killers were able to mori survivors without the need to hook them so i think it was fair in 2016 😂.
Well we only need to look at the other survivor stuff. Like instant flashlight blind (it took like 0.2 seconds to blind a killer). Instant healing (Not just with the syringe, but with just perks, you could drop a pallet, and before the killer was able to break it, you could have healed yourself) BHVR has always favored survivors, to the point where the lead dev didnt even know how bad insta blind flashies were, until he got humiliated by a Korean team. And even recently BHVR nerfed all the decent gen regression perks, while survivors get gen fixing things buffed, cause they want to go back towards those 2 minute matches. Oh not to even mention how the soon™ released Lara Croft, has an insane gen fixing perk, that is 100% uncounterable as it doesnt "fix" the gen, but lowers the max fixing needed. So it doesnt matter how much the killer kicks that gen, that progress cannot be removed.. so soon any gen regression will be more or less useless Its the same in every game where the devs play just 1 thing. Another good example, is Blizzards Hearthstone, it has multiple races like murlocks, undead, naga. But the lead dev clearly plays Beasts, and its always been 200% stronger than anything else ever. And if anything is found that could even remotely compete with Beasts, those cards are immediately nerfed into oblivion.
Remember that no matter how good you are at hitting the survivors with your bottles, you will still miss a lot because unlike huntress hatchets Clown bottles have a small hitbox, they weren't designed to hit survivors directly, and on top of that you only have one chance to hit the survivor and you will get punished with a lot of time wasted if you just miss one time
After trying this build its honestly really good and fun. Because of its instant down effect, the gens went by slowly and if they didn't heal they would loop me but the build is really good at chases so i was able too still down them. Really good build but then at the end they started to hide so maybe having some info perks on that build would be really nice. The yellow add on is a need but i could see like a slow down add on or a speed add on like the flask of bleach because then u could still use your power if they stayed injured. As a clown main i don't run this add on because its very challenging and not fun but after trying this build its still challenging but its really fun because i have to hit my shots and have to down surivours constantly to keep up with the gens.
I still find it funny when the cut thru u single and edge of revival album didn’t stack when trickster came out. But suddenly started stacking when his adjustments/buff came out. Classic BHVR Spaghetti code.
The balance in the early game was completely fucked, you had bnps which instantly completely 1/5th of your objectives as survivor and on killer you had moris which allowed you to complete 1/4 of your objectives on a single down
Iri blight tag after the patch with infinite rushes was very powerful. And if you you count ptb the two trickster addons two reduce the amount of blades to get main event and getting blades back after main event in that ptb because main event was changed from 30 to 8 and they also almost brought back 7 blink nurse in another ptb now we have 5 but not nearly as powerful as the omega 4 blink nurse.
And with doing gens or jumping into lockers. It's the most painful thing, if you as Michael want the evil incarnate achievement and some survivor just jumps into a locker and doesn't come out, while you wait for 15+ minutes. It feels like the old hatch standoffs in those situations.
Not the addon, but I recalled time, when you could escape with your team, using key. As a killer I sometimes had to stay nearby to the hatch, to prevent them escape (and sometimes use old Franklin's Demise)
one more addon combo for the trickster (i dont remember what they were called) in the ptb for the trickster buff the it made the trickster throw faster during event and also for every time you hit a survivor it would increase the main event duration so hypothetically if you had caught survivors off guard and with forced hesitation you could get them all into the dying state almost instantly
As a survivor player, tbh, i dont think that tombstone is that overpowered, i mean, yes it makes myers much more strong, but anyways is ez to counter him just by entering a locker and forcing the grab If he is an infinite myers also, by the time he got to tier 3 with the 2 addons, the survivors have time to make like 4 full gens... And after he reaching tier 3, by going in a locker one or 2 survivors can be sacrificed for the other ones to scape And in case he dont have also the infinite addon, by forcing the grab u can lost his time enough for him to loose tier 3
Btw, u can tell if he runs tombstone just by wathing his left hand, if he has it close he doesnt hace tombstone, but if he has his hand open, he is running tombstone. And telling tonur friends Is literally the first thing i check whem playing agains myers (I know that is so much harder if u play solo q, but lets be honest, solo q is worst in general against any killer)
Idk if anyone played overwatch in the early days, but Trickster's Cut thru u + Edge of revival was the same shit as Hanzo's scatter arrow. At least in the way it ended up being applied/optimized, regardless of design intentions. Ifkyk
You are the only faceless DBD content creator that spits facts about the busted old survivor meta, kyto n everyone else is crying about blight hug tech and how maps are unfair these days
Ill never forget hearing Kyto talk about old Dead Hard needing skill to use when he showed gameplay of him using the perk to phase through a killer in the pick up animation and blind him. A killer who knew he was there and would have gotten away if not for Dead Hard completely nullifying their good positioning.
@@estlin2001 blight being fixed was a hill that a lot of people like him died on that made me realize how bought in some people who abuse things can be
13:30 they can avoid getting stalked, get on generators, start cleansing a totem, gen rush, and can know if you have the addon if your hand is open instead of being in a fist. It’s really not that strong of an addon, especially on a killer like myers.
Honestly I think MDR wasn't even that bad. Did it make Spirit a lot harder to even have a chance to outplay her? Yes. Did it make playing against the Spirirt more unfun? Yes, but mainly because you dont get information about her having this addon. Did it break Spirit all on his own? Hell nah. The purple Medallion thingy (forgot the name, sorry) was way worse in my opinion. As far as I remember, it made your phase last way longer but didn't increase your recovery time. So you had like a 40% (I believe?) longer phase without any downside of making it so your power takes longer to recharge (making the recharge addons completely useless btw). In combination these two DEFINITELY obliterated the game but MDR on its own just made looping Spirit drop to a 3/10 instead of a 4/10 maybe 5/10 for me personally. But I'm a Masochist anyway so yeah...
Tombstone piece is not even that broken tbh, a coodinated team should not let the myers get the mori, leading him to just be an m1 killer with an instadown
I honestly hate how yall gas up Tomb stone piece so much. Is it strong? - yes But it reall dosnt make Myers much better. He is a basic attack killer. Toy falls for the weaknesses as others like him. Such as Trapper or Freddy. The counter play is extremely easy. Not only loop him better because he is a bsic attack killer but Survivors have many tools to avoid it. Lockers is one of the strongest ones as well. Or Slow Vauting windows forcing Myers to grab or stay on gens. There is also the fact It takes a long time for him to even get the stalk needed. With enough time and knowledge you can guess the build. Especially after 1 player dies (because it can happen) you'll know. How to avoid
I think it's kinda unfair how the nerfed the pinky finger so much, considering clown is already a really bad killer. like, as a clown player I want something that drives interest for others to play him
I would argue that pre-3.4.0 Spirit was the most broken killer (in terms of pure power) as she required no skill (or even experience) to play back then. You could just pick her up and BAM.No leaning curve back then. The add-on wasn't even required.
Tombstone Piece still reigns supreme. The most broken add-on in the game! With the right build, Judith's Diary, perk Nemesis that changes the obsession, it's possible to kill 3-4 people with it. Only wish the killing was in Michael's base-kit.
Myer's Tombstone add-ons are really bad but I hope when they get around to rework him, they'll still allow Myers to directly kill just ONE survivor per match with the Tombstone Piece, maybe. I think it's a huge part of his identity now, and it'd be a shame to remove it entirely.
Come Mintskull, we all know that Licker tongue is the most powerful and most impactful add-on in this game.
You can't use words to describe how powerful it is
.6 inches of value
only placebo tablet can argue with you about it
brooo thats my favorite pokemon
Yeah you would have that pfp with that comment
who in their sane mind thought that adding an add on that will insta repair the generator was a balanced idea
“B-b-but survivors are so weak, it would only be fair”
Mintskull didnt talk about this( because obviously it's about addons and not offerings ) but killers were able to mori survivors without the need to hook them so i think it was fair in 2016 😂.
Someone not worried about balance
Propably the same ones that gave survivors the ability to outheal killer hits back in the day
Well we only need to look at the other survivor stuff. Like instant flashlight blind (it took like 0.2 seconds to blind a killer). Instant healing (Not just with the syringe, but with just perks, you could drop a pallet, and before the killer was able to break it, you could have healed yourself)
BHVR has always favored survivors, to the point where the lead dev didnt even know how bad insta blind flashies were, until he got humiliated by a Korean team.
And even recently BHVR nerfed all the decent gen regression perks, while survivors get gen fixing things buffed, cause they want to go back towards those 2 minute matches.
Oh not to even mention how the soon™ released Lara Croft, has an insane gen fixing perk, that is 100% uncounterable as it doesnt "fix" the gen, but lowers the max fixing needed. So it doesnt matter how much the killer kicks that gen, that progress cannot be removed.. so soon any gen regression will be more or less useless
Its the same in every game where the devs play just 1 thing.
Another good example, is Blizzards Hearthstone, it has multiple races like murlocks, undead, naga. But the lead dev clearly plays Beasts, and its always been 200% stronger than anything else ever. And if anything is found that could even remotely compete with Beasts, those cards are immediately nerfed into oblivion.
POV: Mintscull saying pinky finger is bad but at the same time insta downing every suviour he comes across
Yeah it’s awful now and back when you could have 3 bottles with the gin add on, it was still pretty bad and not op
I had luck that match, mainly because they were SoloQ and didn’t expect it! I also made my build around the addon
@@MintSkull you should make a video about that build
Remember that no matter how good you are at hitting the survivors with your bottles, you will still miss a lot because unlike huntress hatchets Clown bottles have a small hitbox, they weren't designed to hit survivors directly, and on top of that you only have one chance to hit the survivor and you will get punished with a lot of time wasted if you just miss one time
After trying this build its honestly really good and fun. Because of its instant down effect, the gens went by slowly and if they didn't heal they would loop me but the build is really good at chases so i was able too still down them. Really good build but then at the end they started to hide so maybe having some info perks on that build would be really nice. The yellow add on is a need but i could see like a slow down add on or a speed add on like the flask of bleach because then u could still use your power if they stayed injured. As a clown main i don't run this add on because its very challenging and not fun but after trying this build its still challenging but its really fun because i have to hit my shots and have to down surivours constantly to keep up with the gens.
God i remember the old iri add ons for spirit.
People would just instantly DC because you literally could not tell where she was moving
That still exists now ish. She has an add on where everyone hears the phase sound and it’s all mumble jumbled
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN well, at least now you know when she's phasing. Back then, you couldn't know anything
Clowns party bottles are OP trust 😂
THATS WHAT IM SAYIN, IF U THROW IT AT A SURVIVOR AND ITS NO PISS CLOUD, THE SURVIVORS BRAINS WILL EXPLODE coming from personal experience
I still find it funny when the cut thru u single and edge of revival album didn’t stack when trickster came out.
But suddenly started stacking when his adjustments/buff came out.
Classic BHVR Spaghetti code.
Cold dirt for legion was painful
*shank* ARGH!!!! ...*shank* ARGH!!!! ...*shank* ARGH!!!! ...*shank* ARGH!!!! ...
The balance in the early game was completely fucked, you had bnps which instantly completely 1/5th of your objectives as survivor and on killer you had moris which allowed you to complete 1/4 of your objectives on a single down
7 blink nurse is such a meme. Absolute madness.
Underrated channel, Huge W
WHERE is OG Frank's Mix Tape Legion
Or the dual blades that were infinite mending?
13:20 made me laugh harder than what is medically advisable
Insta blind flashlights!
Iri blight tag after the patch with infinite rushes was very powerful. And if you you count ptb the two trickster addons two reduce the amount of blades to get main event and getting blades back after main event in that ptb because main event was changed from 30 to 8 and they also almost brought back 7 blink nurse in another ptb now we have 5 but not nearly as powerful as the omega 4 blink nurse.
On a different busted micheal myers build, Hair + Journal is always really fun. Having infinite tier 3 before 3 gens remaining is always fun
Gotta say i love tombstones. It changes the entire mood of the match and makes bully squads take the match much more seriously after the first kill
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I still think the original prayer beads were move OP then M/D ring. Prayer beads completely made spirit silent during her phase !!!
13:28 you can block tombstone with bardic inspiration good to know :D
And with doing gens or jumping into lockers. It's the most painful thing, if you as Michael want the evil incarnate achievement and some survivor just jumps into a locker and doesn't come out, while you wait for 15+ minutes. It feels like the old hatch standoffs in those situations.
Anyone remembers bugged Frank's Mixtape, which for some reason caused mending to be potentially infinitely long?
It was two blade add-ons. Filthy and one other
Not the addon, but I recalled time, when you could escape with your team, using key. As a killer I sometimes had to stay nearby to the hatch, to prevent them escape (and sometimes use old Franklin's Demise)
Tu contenido es simplemente increíble. Así es, hablo español y consumo tu contenido. Sigue así hermano ♡
@@sykelmao muchas gracias!
I didn't skip the non adhd intro are you proud of me mint😂😂😂
I remember when Monto made the spirit video when she had no sound when phasing and just got the grabs like it was nothing lol
Here before all the "bro fell off" comments
Too late
You just made one.
Yeeeaah.... Nobody does that anymore. Not even ironically
It was never funny, kinda just rude actually
one more addon combo for the trickster (i dont remember what they were called) in the ptb for the trickster buff the it made the trickster throw faster during event and also for every time you hit a survivor it would increase the main event duration so hypothetically if you had caught survivors off guard and with forced hesitation you could get them all into the dying state almost instantly
As a survivor player, tbh, i dont think that tombstone is that overpowered, i mean, yes it makes myers much more strong, but anyways is ez to counter him just by entering a locker and forcing the grab
If he is an infinite myers also, by the time he got to tier 3 with the 2 addons, the survivors have time to make like 4 full gens... And after he reaching tier 3, by going in a locker one or 2 survivors can be sacrificed for the other ones to scape
And in case he dont have also the infinite addon, by forcing the grab u can lost his time enough for him to loose tier 3
Btw, u can tell if he runs tombstone just by wathing his left hand, if he has it close he doesnt hace tombstone, but if he has his hand open, he is running tombstone. And telling tonur friends
Is literally the first thing i check whem playing agains myers
(I know that is so much harder if u play solo q, but lets be honest, solo q is worst in general against any killer)
strong skull merchant and I love your videos buddy
I began playing in January 2019 and I wasn’t even an early player but now I feel like an OG. 😆
MDR was bugged for quite a while, making it give a 66% (iirc) speed bonus while in phase on release and even a few years after that I think
That Myers footage was just so based
The old prayer beads..... OP
Hey MintSkull! I love your vids!
One of the insane addon is the subscribe button
glazing is crazy
Correction: The Mother Daughter Ring Granted At The Release From The Spirit Not +40% Movement Speed But +70% Movement Speed
9:20 u definitely did the video script before the the image
@@Sarre_Casme I did 😭
@@MintSkull them yes we expected the brand new part it was literally showed at the start I was so confused about why you said that
Would be nice to have addons that change the function of survivor
items. Similar to how perks work.
i got ADHD from your intro mintskull wtf
My skull is mint
It's not a Broken Addon Combination video without mentioning Coconut lol
I think Iri Seal from Plague definitely belongs on this list.
I do miss old anti haemorrhagic syringe. It was so good to stop slugging.
1 week without you posting felt like a year 😢😢
Idk if anyone played overwatch in the early days, but Trickster's Cut thru u + Edge of revival was the same shit as Hanzo's scatter arrow. At least in the way it ended up being applied/optimized, regardless of design intentions.
Ifkyk
Ain’t no way there was no mention of spirit prayer beads 💀
Can't believe you didn't bring up insta blind add ons
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You are the only faceless DBD content creator that spits facts about the busted old survivor meta, kyto n everyone else is crying about blight hug tech and how maps are unfair these days
Ill never forget hearing Kyto talk about old Dead Hard needing skill to use when he showed gameplay of him using the perk to phase through a killer in the pick up animation and blind him. A killer who knew he was there and would have gotten away if not for Dead Hard completely nullifying their good positioning.
@@estlin2001 blight being fixed was a hill that a lot of people like him died on that made me realize how bought in some people who abuse things can be
Tombstone rework
Peice lets you kill any red stalk person(feed equals die)
Whole one stays the same since you drain everyone anyways
no infinite rush blight?
How tf is no one talking about how op bubba is rn ???
13:30 they can avoid getting stalked, get on generators, start cleansing a totem, gen rush, and can know if you have the addon if your hand is open instead of being in a fist. It’s really not that strong of an addon, especially on a killer like myers.
My blight wining perk duo
Forced hesitation and rapid brutality
Bit late but I think you forgot prayer beads and old legion add ons
P-prayer bead's....
I know it’s a combo but insta saw Billy?
But Prayer Beads on Spirit arent on this list? Why...
Double range addons on nurse
Where is Instablind addons which make Killer rage quit?
Honestly I think MDR wasn't even that bad.
Did it make Spirit a lot harder to even have a chance to outplay her?
Yes.
Did it make playing against the Spirirt more unfun?
Yes, but mainly because you dont get information about her having this addon.
Did it break Spirit all on his own?
Hell nah.
The purple Medallion thingy (forgot the name, sorry) was way worse in my opinion. As far as I remember, it made your phase last way longer but didn't increase your recovery time. So you had like a 40% (I believe?) longer phase without any downside of making it so your power takes longer to recharge (making the recharge addons completely useless btw).
In combination these two DEFINITELY obliterated the game but MDR on its own just made looping Spirit drop to a 3/10 instead of a 4/10 maybe 5/10 for me personally.
But I'm a Masochist anyway so yeah...
Mint skull, I just wanted to say, you look rather ravishing this evening.
Bro.. the pipe goes through her "chest" in the thumbnail...
Daddy mint skull
You forgot Prayer Beads.... Those who know...
dead by daylight
Tombstone piece is not even that broken tbh, a coodinated team should not let the myers get the mori, leading him to just be an m1 killer with an instadown
I’d say the redhead pinky finger is still semi decent if you’re an extremely accurate clown
I honestly hate how yall gas up Tomb stone piece so much.
Is it strong? - yes
But it reall dosnt make Myers much better. He is a basic attack killer. Toy falls for the weaknesses as others like him. Such as Trapper or Freddy.
The counter play is extremely easy. Not only loop him better because he is a bsic attack killer but Survivors have many tools to avoid it.
Lockers is one of the strongest ones as well. Or Slow Vauting windows forcing Myers to grab or stay on gens.
There is also the fact It takes a long time for him to even get the stalk needed. With enough time and knowledge you can guess the build. Especially after 1 player dies (because it can happen) you'll know. How to avoid
Lol Myers game xD
Pew pew
I think it's kinda unfair how the nerfed the pinky finger so much, considering clown is already a really bad killer.
like, as a clown player I want something that drives interest for others to play him
Cool
Did you actually say myers is strong lol
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God, I miss old Alchemist Ring.
4 views in 1 min. Bro fell off HARD
edit: Mintskull I fucking love ur videos
How original
@@Duncaster I know, sorry brother.
This meme is still alive?
I really hope you step on lego for writing this comment.
trickster sucks man he should be removed and not that he sucks in weakness he's wayyy too op and such a boring killer to face
6 views in 2 minutes? Prime Mint would have had 10 billion views by now
I would argue that pre-3.4.0 Spirit was the most broken killer (in terms of pure power) as she required no skill (or even experience) to play back then. You could just pick her up and BAM.No leaning curve back then. The add-on wasn't even required.
I miss old DBD -some random survivor
You miss the advantage you survivor mains had
Tombstone Piece still reigns supreme. The most broken add-on in the game! With the right build, Judith's Diary, perk Nemesis that changes the obsession, it's possible to kill 3-4 people with it. Only wish the killing was in Michael's base-kit.
Myer's Tombstone add-ons are really bad but I hope when they get around to rework him, they'll still allow Myers to directly kill just ONE survivor per match with the Tombstone Piece, maybe. I think it's a huge part of his identity now, and it'd be a shame to remove it entirely.
Come on dude answer me, why do u like talking like that
9 trillion views in 0.000000000000001 seconds? Bro fell off
0 views in -6 hours? bro fell off HARDDD!!!!!!!