"ENGLAND EXPECTS EVERY MAN TO DO HIS DUTY": Americans at HMS Victory | The Postmodern Family EP

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  • @fossy4321
    @fossy4321 6 років тому +620

    On a guided tour of HMS Victory a French tourist asked if the cannon balls were real "No actually these are replicas " he was told he asked why? "Because you have all the real ones" came the reply!

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +41

      🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @lionelzeffertt3148
      @lionelzeffertt3148 6 років тому +39

      Lol that's funny 😁😁😁 it's part of the banter 😂😂😂😂

    • @marvinc999
      @marvinc999 6 років тому +14

      fossy4321 -
      "Because you have all the real ones" came the reply!"
      Blimey - but that is BEAUTIFUL !!!!!!
      Many, many, many thanks for sharing....................................easily the FUNNIEST thing I've read this year.
      I shall CHERISH it.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 6 років тому +6

      Very good.

    • @richardclarke376
      @richardclarke376 6 років тому +4

      I third it, you are absolutely right. The best books I have ever read.

  • @TheBeeseven
    @TheBeeseven 5 років тому +25

    As an Englishman i'd like to thank you for your enlightening videos about my homeland. Your closing summary was beautiful. I salute you sir.

  • @justbanter8727
    @justbanter8727 6 років тому +172

    As a Brit I thank you for such a positive review/tour of part of our history, I know we have our faults, as all Nations do, and anyone with such a long history as ours will have a few skeletons in the cupboard of which we are not proud, so again I thank you for focusing on the positive, after all we're each of us standing on the shoulders of giants no matter where in the world we presently find ourselves, and courageous figures from our past ought to be praised & never forgotten.

    • @fossy4321
      @fossy4321 6 років тому +12

      well said sir.

    • @Mark13091961
      @Mark13091961 6 років тому +8

      JustBanter well said sir

    • @XslashburnsX
      @XslashburnsX 6 років тому +6

      Except for the French.

    • @aljack1979
      @aljack1979 5 років тому +5

      As a brit I'm immensely proud of our resolve and determination to succeed as a nation. However we should pay tribute to the foreign nationals who for money helped us in our quests. Plenty of foreigners served on the Victoria :)

    • @aljack1979
      @aljack1979 5 років тому +3

      Victory

  • @jonnibegood1
    @jonnibegood1 6 років тому +185

    Thanks for the Respect for the Royal Navy. Did you know that Victory is still Commissioned? She's the oldest Commissioned Flagship in the world. 👍🏼🇬🇧😊

    • @subwaysno1843
      @subwaysno1843 5 років тому

      jonnibegood1 it’s not mate it’s not been used in over 100years

    • @cornishbluebird
      @cornishbluebird 5 років тому +30

      @@subwaysno1843 yes it is, serving members of the RN are still drafted to HMS Victory. She may not float anymore but she is still commissioned and is still the flagship of the first sea lord

    • @TheBeeseven
      @TheBeeseven 5 років тому +9

      @@cornishbluebird
      You are correct Gareth.

    • @joyfulzero853
      @joyfulzero853 3 роки тому +2

      Though not the oldest one still afloat of course. That is the USS Constitution

    • @jonnibegood1
      @jonnibegood1 3 роки тому +2

      @@cornishbluebird yes, still the Flagship. Just not floating around anymore. A fitting vessel considering all the action she has seen.

  • @mtsenskmtsensk5113
    @mtsenskmtsensk5113 6 років тому +146

    Another little known fact is that the Russian navy still revere Admiral Nelson. On the Russian sailors hat there are 2 black ribbons at the back to commemorate his death. He is considered the father of modern navies.

    • @davidhoward2487
      @davidhoward2487 6 років тому +12

      Thank you for that....

    • @HarryFlashmanVC
      @HarryFlashmanVC 6 років тому +10

      Mtsensk Mtsensk British and especially Scottish mercenary officers won great acclaim in Russia. General Patrick Gordon, an exciled Stuart soldier was absolutely critical to Peter the Greats bid for the throne, he reformed the Russian Army and was one of Peter's drinking buddies. He also crushed the skrelzy rebellion whilst Peter was in Europe.
      Admiral Thomas Gordon built the first modern Russian Navy. ADMIRAL Samuel Greig served under Catherine and won great acclaim.

    • @adrianstent7009
      @adrianstent7009 6 років тому +13

      Three white stripes on nearly all sailors uniforms around the world,are meant,I believe to represent nelsons three most famous battles

    • @davidswain5081
      @davidswain5081 6 років тому +4

      Adrian Stent Thanks for that did not know.

    • @fossy4321
      @fossy4321 6 років тому +5

      I had no idea that's what those ribbons were for, many thanks for sharing.

  • @denislaw8
    @denislaw8 6 років тому +36

    Thank you for the kind words, that would make many British politicians and intellectuals shudder, such is their disdain for our country's history.

  • @SuperDancingdevil
    @SuperDancingdevil 6 років тому +94

    There are British who sadly don't realise that you can barely throw a stone here without hitting some sort of History and I wish they would take more pride in our past, The men who served on those ships in Nelsons day were honed and trained to perfection in Cannon drill with endless repetitive manning of the guns wheeling them out and firing them at a phenomenal rate, The sailors of the time lived hard and dangerous lives, Thank you for taking such an interest in our history we have so much to share and I hope you discover much more which will only increase your understanding of the British as a people and how such a little island grew into a formidable world power and empire back then.

    • @geoffhorsfall7919
      @geoffhorsfall7919 6 років тому +6

      lance allison the greatest Empire the world has ever witnessed (before or since)

    • @SuperDancingdevil
      @SuperDancingdevil 6 років тому +1

      Geoff Horsfall I'm not so sure there were others before our Roman, Ottoman, Mongol, Japanese they've all come and gone, The trouble is with empires they grow too big and too corrupt which eventually leads to their downfall, But yes for a small island we had a very big empire mostly because of our Navy .

    • @fossy4321
      @fossy4321 5 років тому +5

      @@SuperDancingdevil Non of those mentioned were as large as the British Empire by a long way!

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 5 років тому +3

      Lance allison. Can I suggest you don't throw a stone. You could hit something historical.

    • @leod-sigefast
      @leod-sigefast 5 років тому +1

      I read a hell of a lot of history, visited Ypres and the Somme multiple times to pay my respects. I am a proud Brit but the mindset of many does my head in. Most Brits don't read history full stop. Just accept old biased interpretations. Most don't realise that a sizeable portion of the Royal Navy was made up of foreign sailors. True it was a British institution and they were excellently drilled to British standards. But with all this anti foreign business that Brexit has unleashed has increased the siege moron mentality of a lot of Brits. Most who seem to get their history lessons from the Sun.

  • @daneelolivaw602
    @daneelolivaw602 6 років тому +80

    I get to Portsmouth as often as I can, Victory is a very special ship, and I never miss the opportunity to look around her. From a Briton, and an Englishman, Thank you for your lovely words at the end of the video.

  • @katrich61
    @katrich61 6 років тому +13

    As a Royal Navy (Submarines) veteran, I thank you for your kind and heartfelt words.

  • @Blahshog
    @Blahshog 6 років тому +51

    Thank You Felipe for your kind comments about the wealth of history which the U.K. has to offer. So pleased that you enjoyed your day out.

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +10

      You are most welcome. It is my honour to experience these things here in your incredible country!

  • @janicetaylor2333
    @janicetaylor2333 4 роки тому +3

    Why "I Vow to Thee My Country" is not our national anthem I'll never know. Its easily the most moving piece of music that's ever been written and never, ever fails to make me want to get out there and do something, anything for my nation.
    Beautiful. Thank you for putting it on your excellent film.

    • @bengunn3698
      @bengunn3698 4 роки тому +1

      @Janice----Instead we have the dreary funeral dirge --god save the queen . [ No capitals needed.]

  • @66lesjo
    @66lesjo 6 років тому +9

    An interesting, touching and very respectful film. Thank you for taking the time to talk about the men that worked there, often such a dangerous place. And your tribute to one of the truly great military leaders was done with taste. I hope you enjoyed your pint. Best wishes from an ageing ex British soldier. Cheers

  • @SuperReasonable
    @SuperReasonable 6 років тому +20

    Great video from a British perspective. The men you talked about were in the main uneducated, apart from most of the officers, many were 'pressed' into service and many set sail knowing the chances of ever returning home were minimal, but still they fought with incredible bravery in the most atrocious living and working conditions. It's near impossible for us to understand the mentality and the belief of right and wrong that drove these simple souls, yet our entire lifestyle and existence today was founded by their selfless commitment to their country and their monarch. I always feel blessed that in my lifetime America has been the world’s most powerful nation. It’s difficult to imagine how different it could have been if it were Germany, Russia, Japan or China. I guarantee it could only have been worse. So let’s not forget what these men did in bringing justice and democracy to the world through the British Empire, but also in forming the foundations for the America we have lived with so successfully for the last 70 years.

  • @GameDeveloperTraining
    @GameDeveloperTraining 6 років тому +22

    as an ex sailor i had to sub afte watching this. thanks for such a warm and respectful video

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому

      Thank you for your service, sir.

    • @JohnAnderson-ss9vn
      @JohnAnderson-ss9vn 3 роки тому

      my father served in the royal navy on the arctic convoys in world war 2 and always revered nelsons legacy

  • @williamrance5086
    @williamrance5086 6 років тому +27

    Felipe. Those are truly wonderful words given to the memory of the men who lived, fought and died in those very deck spaces. Coming from an American, even more beautiful in its description. Thank you kindly from a Brit.

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +5

      Honoured to have the opportunity to say them, record them, and post them. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @Brissles
      @Brissles 6 років тому +2

      William Rance Guys you're making me tear up.

  • @RonSeymour1
    @RonSeymour1 6 років тому +13

    Hi Felipe, I try to watch all your videos and am impressed by your acceptance and attitude towards British culture and historic sites. However, even at 72 years old this one has moved me to tears. The music, I vow to me my country, should be the national anthem. The courage and fortitude of those sailors makes me think that if we could revert back to their values the world would be a much better place. Did you know that the biggest killer of men in naval warfare at the time was a splinter. This was the shrapnel caused when canon balls hit masts and decking. At high speed you never stood a chance.

    • @stephencarey5074
      @stephencarey5074 5 років тому

      - and disease...

    • @simonharrispastimes9997
      @simonharrispastimes9997 4 роки тому

      Ron Seymour I understand your view. It is beautiful music. A national song. But as an ex serviceman the National Anthem focuses the mind on who we serve and why.

  • @Codex7777
    @Codex7777 6 років тому +39

    HMS Victory is THE most famous and historic ship in the whole history of the Royal Navy. The flagship of Nelson, the most famous and revered British naval commander of all time. In his day he was as famous as Napoleon himself. In this ship he took on and utterly defeated the larger combined French and Spanish fleets, thereby preventing an invasion by Napoleon and giving Britain absolute naval supremacy for well over a century. No British ships were lost, whilst almost two thirds of the French and Spanish ships were either captured or destroyed.
    The Battle of Trafalgar, 1805, is one of 3 great celebrated victories, against the odds, in British history, which prevented imminent invasions. The other two being, the defeat of the Spanish Armada in 1588 and the Battle of Britain in 1940.

    • @Codex7777
      @Codex7777 6 років тому +3

      P.S. Nelson died during the battle. Upon the fleets return, Nelson received the largest state funeral and procession ever received by a non-royal. He's one of the great heroes in British history. Trafalgar Square, right in the heart of London, is named after the battle. Nelson's column stands at the centre of the Trafalgar Square. It's an tall column, supporting a large statue of Nelson. The bronze relief panels and lion sculptures at the base of the column were made from captured French and Spanish cannons.

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +16

      I would say HMS Victory is the most famous navy ship, from amongst all navy ships of all countries in all of history, in the world.

    • @GFSLombardo
      @GFSLombardo 6 років тому +2

      Ditto

    • @benjeffrey1389
      @benjeffrey1389 6 років тому +3

      HMS Victory is still technically a flagship of the Royal Navy which I think is pretty cool

    • @46templar
      @46templar 6 років тому +1

      Codex7777 the Ark Royal is older or what about the Mary Rose

  • @baejiaoflying9434
    @baejiaoflying9434 3 роки тому +4

    “That level of heroism is hard to believe.” Exactly. Well put.

  • @JC-by6cl
    @JC-by6cl 6 років тому +48

    Thanks so much. With the current PC culture vilifying the west and rewriting its history, this is very refreshing.

    • @keegan773
      @keegan773 3 роки тому

      I’d love to see our present day snowflakes pressed into service on the Victory back in the day.
      Swing that cat.....

  • @Captally
    @Captally 6 років тому +88

    It's a sad sight for an old sailor to see Pompey dockyard so bereft of ships. My memories of the 50's & 60's when there were Frigates, Destroyers, Carriers Et Al., two and three deep against the wall all around the yard and still ships at sea. The old Vanguard still anchored off when I was first there. Portsmouth herself now changed beyond recognition and how many matelots do actually see these days? Oh well, I suppose we have to bend a knee to progress.

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +3

      😔 what do you think happened?

    • @Captally
      @Captally 6 років тому +10

      A number of interrelated things I suppose. Finances and diminishing need probably at the top of the list although a number of us think they went overboard (no pun intended) with the lack of need angle. The city itself probably felt the need to drag itself into the 20th/21st century and who can blame them, but it was a shame to see those beautiful old buildings demolished. Naval and civilian. The old Victory barracks was a sight to behold and I believe they have left the old main gate standing.

    • @GFSLombardo
      @GFSLombardo 6 років тому +6

      My friend worked there both on active duty with the Royal Navy and as a MOD civilian employee. Try to go there every chance I get whenever I visit England. You can see HMS Victory and HMS Queen Elizabeth within a short distance of each other. Centuries of British naval history right there, along with Mary Rose, Warrior and other historic ships. Felipe's video was so British, my morning coffee turned into tea!

    • @chrisholland7367
      @chrisholland7367 6 років тому +2

      Captally There are certainly a real lack of ships at Devonport as weĺl

    • @fedupenglishman4029
      @fedupenglishman4029 6 років тому +11

      what happend was the eu pure and simple old son destroying the british way of life due to political correctness,and once we leave then maybe we can start to feel great about our selves again who knows,lets hope so

  • @grahamlong6870
    @grahamlong6870 6 років тому +6

    I am proud to say that I had a relative on board HMS Victory at Trafalgar. He was Master at Arms, and he survived the battle, unlike so many others on both sides. Tough men!

    • @Blackbeard007
      @Blackbeard007 6 років тому

      wow that's cool so your relative is William Elliot ? he was master at arms on HMS Victory at trafalgar. one of the most respected men on the ship.

    • @grahamlong6870
      @grahamlong6870 6 років тому +1

      Quite right on all counts.

    • @Blackbeard007
      @Blackbeard007 6 років тому

      @@grahamlong6870 That's so awesome you must be so proud because I would be I love the HMS Victory...

  • @nickygeeksterx01
    @nickygeeksterx01 6 років тому +7

    As a Brit, certainly brought a lump to my throat with the music alone in the 1st part, good choice (of music). Many thanks, great video!

  • @michaelridley4503
    @michaelridley4503 5 років тому +11

    You Sir and your beautiful family are truly respectable of our British ways, I hope you all have a wonderful and fabulous life in our wonderful country and have the time to visit my Brilliant home City Newcastle Upon Tyne, come and see us you may be surprised xx

  • @seanclark6438
    @seanclark6438 5 років тому +6

    I live in Sussex and along with the history of the Norman Conquest, not far from where I live is Pevensy Castle which was built on the site of a Roman fort, there is history on our doorstep, as the man said in Britain we are blessed with such vibrant history

    • @raymoreton3184
      @raymoreton3184 5 років тому +1

      I live in Eastbourne - small world eh.

  • @neilhellens8956
    @neilhellens8956 6 років тому +29

    The 5000 calories were needed.The old Naval Hospital Graveyard was disinterred recently.Studies of the Skeletons showed massive upper body development and injuries consistent with a brutally hard life of labour. Some of those surcomed to battle injuries and had amputations.The youngest was 8 years old.

    • @solatiumz
      @solatiumz 6 років тому +3

      Indeed, also no central heating on board!!

    • @joannagodfrey5111
      @joannagodfrey5111 6 років тому +3

      solatiumz not even any 'elf and safety

  • @scadian9
    @scadian9 3 роки тому

    Nice work Sir, I joined the Royal Australian Navy at 15 and served for 12 years and am very proud of our service lineage.
    Worked with the US Navy coastal forces in Vietnam and have nothing but respect for the USN.
    Well done.

  • @glynnwright1699
    @glynnwright1699 6 років тому +18

    I would suggest that you take a look at the Golden Hind replica in London . Drake circumnavigated the world in 1580 with no maps and a ship so small that it seems like a toy. They really were a special breed of men in those days.

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +3

      Thanks for the suggestion! And yes, special breed indeed. How can we generate those men again?

    • @jonathanparry7824
      @jonathanparry7824 4 роки тому +2

      @@ThePostmodernFamilysadly those men were born into a world that still needed to be explored, I don't think we will see this kind of man until we crack the whole how to survive in space and travel at the speed of light thing.... sigh

    • @robyneaton413
      @robyneaton413 4 роки тому +2

      @@ThePostmodernFamily hard times breed great men - little real hardship these days compared with 1805

  • @jhvoojh
    @jhvoojh 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for your kind words about my country!
    Enjoyed the vlog very much, thank you.

  • @newt7705
    @newt7705 6 років тому +7

    that my friend is a great video, you showed great respect. You would be a great news reporter.

  • @johnpbh
    @johnpbh 3 роки тому

    Wonderfully put Felipe. They were a completely different breed of men.
    I was born in Portsmouth and my dad worked in the Dockyard when it was a fully functioning yard and not the "Historic" version that it has now become. Because I'm very old and because of my dad's job, I was fortunate enough to have been able to spend 2 tours of 3 years each in Malta and 1 tour of 4 years in Gibraltar. I left Gibraltar in 1970 when I was 17 years old and I knew at the time that I had had the most wonderful childhood. Because I came back to the UK in between each tour I was able to make a comparison between both sorts of life. I suspect that those visits in that time left me with a love of The Mediterranean and that was a big factor in making me decide to retire to Spain instead of staying in the UK.

  • @rattytattyratnett
    @rattytattyratnett 6 років тому +4

    When the Victory was renovated in 1922, some of the old timbers were salvaged. I have a pocket knife, the handle of which is made from from that timber. It is one of my most favourite possessions. I have told my family that it must be looked after after I die, because it is the sort of thing that could easily be thrown away as just another old knife of no historic interest.

  • @ravenmasters2467
    @ravenmasters2467 3 роки тому

    Okay... ive said before how i am low-key in love with Lillian (my youtube name was Kami Sof, and old gaming name but i changed it now) but you, Felipe, are a dying breed. Hunted almost to extinction in fact. A man who is unapologeticly masculine and proud of the achievements and courage of other men. A strong, independent man in an age when those qualities are frowned upon, unless you're a woman. You speak of the heroism of those men but in your own small way you're displaying heroism yourself, refusing to be cowed and shamed. I salute you, Sir.

  • @michaelfoster5577
    @michaelfoster5577 2 роки тому

    My late father was undergoing officer training on HMS Victory in 1945. He took me to see the ship when I was quite young (about 5 or 6) and showed me the plaque that says “Here Nelson fell”. He said very loudly “I’m not surprised, I fell over it myself”! - much to the disgust of several onlookers. He had to explain that he had served throughout the war before being sent to Victory when the war was nearly over!!

  • @ragandoil
    @ragandoil 6 років тому +5

    The heritage you point out is like the green grass , we dont see it till someone mentions it to us as a Brit vet of twenty years ... thank you for the compliments .... you sir are a scholar and a gentleman... of the first magnitude

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +3

      It is my pleasure and great honour to shed a little light on the amazing history and glory of this wonderful island people. Thank you for your kind words.

  • @1daveyp
    @1daveyp 3 роки тому

    Felipe, you say you don't know much about naval history, but you clearly appreciate it. This video was magnificent and moving. You said little, but what you did say was utterly on point.. Seeing your reaction to the Victory was priceless, it's great when someone 'gets' it so completely. And "I Vow to Thee My Country" in the background? It must've got a bit dusty in here because my eyes are tearing up. Thank you.

  • @geriatricmotorcars9516
    @geriatricmotorcars9516 5 років тому +6

    An emotional tribute ' Thank you Mr America '
    We have an under celebrated history , of pride and Valour ...
    The EU hate our balls ' I'd like to give all those canons , and More are you listening Mrs May

  • @Ebeneezergoode1
    @Ebeneezergoode1 6 років тому +2

    I love how you're necking San Miguel at HMS Victory. If anything, sinking a Spanish beer at the historical resting place of a warship that fought Spain (and France) shows the real progress we've made in getting along with eachother and not being arseholes.

  • @notwocdivad
    @notwocdivad 3 роки тому +1

    It was no idle boast in the words of the song " Hearts of oak have our ships, Hearts of oak have our men,"

  • @brianrodney5202
    @brianrodney5202 6 років тому +11

    There is a famous tale of Admiral Lord Nelson standing on the poop-deck of his flagship . As he only had one eye, his first lieutenant was standing next to him looking through the telescope at the French fleet which had just appeared on the horizon.
    " Well man, what are they doing ? " asked the Admiral.
    " They have run up some flags, Sir , and are sending us a message ".
    " What does it say - in English, as my French is not too good " said Nelson.
    " It says " to the water, it is time " said the lieutenant.
    " what on earth do they mean, I wonder - what is it in French, then ?"
    " It says, sir " A L'EAU CES'T L'HEURE " "

    • @mtsenskmtsensk5113
      @mtsenskmtsensk5113 6 років тому +2

      brian rodney brilliant, I had to say it out loud quite few times before I got 'allo sailor'

    • @twotone3070
      @twotone3070 6 років тому

      Very clever, didn't get it till it was explained. BTW, appropriate surname for this video. :)

  • @gravydavy3614
    @gravydavy3614 6 років тому +16

    I was part of the RN display team 1979(I think) when we were detailed to do some film work on HMS Victory. We had to dress up as 19thC sailors and fire the cannons - they were replicas - we had to do it all late at night so that they didn't have to stop the public seeing it during the day. I always wondered what the locals must have thought about cannons going off at 2 in the morning for a couple of weeks. At least i can genuinely say I am one of the few folk still alive that has fired cannons on HMS Victory.
    Just to ass to the comment about how much food sailors ate, as part of the RN Display team we must have been putting away around 4000 calories or more day, the amount of physical training we had to do for the window ladder display was impressive - not quite up to the level of the field gun crews but plenty of hard work all the same

    • @joannagodfrey5111
      @joannagodfrey5111 6 років тому

      well said gravy davy, the men would have needed every calorie they could get for the amount of hard manal, labour, whether the foremast jacks or the "waisters" there would have been little standing about with their thumb up their bum!

  • @rayburridge9912
    @rayburridge9912 4 роки тому

    Small fortune just spent on this fabulous ship...now with computer-controlled struts to imitate normal water-pressure that virtually keeps the old wooden ships together. Now you're able to walk UNDER the keel for the first time ever! A great symbol of the great city, birthplace of Dickens, Isambard K Brunel, the great engineer, comedian Peter Sellers, and 'birthplace' of Sherlock Holmes, the first reference made by Conan Doyle whilst a doctor in Portsmouth. Incidentally Felipe, Portsmouth is known globally as 'Pompey'. Bless your wonderful family, stay safe!

  • @BillySugger1965
    @BillySugger1965 6 років тому +3

    If you liked seeing HMS Victory, then take a trip along to Buckler’s Hard on the coast of the New Forest. There they built timber warships and there’s a great museum there showing how. And a nice boat cruise along the Beaulieu (pr B-you-lee) River.

  • @postwar46
    @postwar46 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for an unbiased commentary, and a sensitive account of what you saw and percieved aboard HMS Victory. The UK is a unique country. Those who upheld the values of the country, by serving this leading nation, are always remembered and respected ; and you have done so also.

  • @fossy4321
    @fossy4321 6 років тому +44

    As you said the Brits back then were something special , maybe they still are? But when the first Brit made it to Japan through Magellan's pass he narrowly avoided death from the Japanese just for being there, he survived and eventually became Samurai!!! The Spanish and Portuguese had been there for 10s of years yet non became Samurai. Must say something? There is historically still one British Samurai, a descendant of the original, he returns occasionally for ceremonial duties. Men like those we will never know again!

    • @KingOfHearts901
      @KingOfHearts901 6 років тому +1

      His name was William Adams.

    • @KingOfHearts901
      @KingOfHearts901 6 років тому

      What do you hope was a joke?

    • @NilsAlbertsson
      @NilsAlbertsson 6 років тому +19

      _"Men like those we will never know again!"_
      You are wrong... Great Britain is an island nation - a nation of warriors! Time and time again, the shores of these fair isles have been threatened by tyrants and misfits, and time after time, the goodly and strong stock of this island fortress has proven themselves worthy... If you want to _"know men like those,"_ then do no more than look around you.
      These fellows you see around you, may look like pie eating chavs, tracksuited halfwits and general good for nothings, but ever has it been thus... Within these folk, when roused, lies a fearsome foe that fights lion like when foe stand without our door!
      The sons of Hengist and Horsa live still in these islands!

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +19

      N Albertsson let’s rouse them once more. They are under an internal, rather than an external, oppression-political correctness and self-loathing.

    • @NilsAlbertsson
      @NilsAlbertsson 6 років тому +2

      The Postmodern Family... The British will never be enslaved, but we will endure bad times and good, bad governments and -good- less bad governments and all manner of shenanigans inbetween.
      We very, very rarely rise up in revolution... It is just not the British way. Instead we tend to slowly change things within for the better. Political correctness etc makes a Brit sigh, makes him angry, even... But never revolutionary!
      We are like our climate... Temperate.

  • @thehammer7711
    @thehammer7711 3 роки тому

    So aged 12 I was inspired about the history of the UK by Americans. My family had a hotel in Bridlington in Yorkshire. Every year it was full of American Historians, and divers from the end of August until the beginning of December, They were looking for the ship of John Paul Jones, the father of the American Navy. He fought in a battle called the Battle of Flamborough head on the 23rd of September 1779. I am talking back in the 1970's here. The ship, the Bonhomme Richard, was eventually found in 2018, around forty miles up the coast. Tides, and time had moved it!

  • @chriscarr9171
    @chriscarr9171 3 роки тому +1

    Great video and comments. Thank you. England expects.

  • @littlehamptonshopmobility6245
    @littlehamptonshopmobility6245 4 роки тому +1

    I thought the words Lord Nelson said as he was dying “thank God I have done my duty” - so touching, God Bless him.

  • @markpstapley
    @markpstapley 5 років тому +1

    I believe Victory is still officially recorded as being an active ship in the British navy. Also the navy were still holding courts martials aboard until the 1960s when an unfortunate incident involving two american tourists occurred. I love the saying "not enough room to swing a cat". Visiting the Victory gives you a real sense of the true meaning of the phrase... The cat, being the cat o'nine tails....

  • @peterhoughton3770
    @peterhoughton3770 3 роки тому

    In Australia our long past is indigenous. It's not my history, though i'm trying to learn much about it and the often sad collision of culture that occurred in our past. But in the UK I felt so many emotions on my last trip. The true pull of place. I found myself in tears at Loch Lomond knowing that 100 years ago my great grandparents had their honeymoon on its banks. i felt a surge of pride as a Hurricane flew past in 1940 colours and I remembered that bitter struggle in the summer of 1940. And yes, Nelson's fateful order - England Expects. I remember exploring the old Bailey, Inns of Court and stumbling across The Olde Curiosity Shoppe, and seeing William Marshall's burial place in Temple Church. It's dense, and rich. And fascinating. History is the most fascinating story you'll ever hear... because it's yours, and you're also writing it.

  • @jordizee
    @jordizee 6 років тому +5

    Your beautiful comment at the end gave me goosebumps ..thanks

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +2

      You are most welcome. It is my high honour to shed some light on the incredible greatness of your patrimony. Something you guys must never surrender or be ashamed of!

    • @brianshockledge3241
      @brianshockledge3241 6 років тому +1

      Did you know that Nelson`s body was kept in a barrel of brandy for preservation on the journey home.

  • @richardday5062
    @richardday5062 6 років тому +6

    Hey Postmodern. Top quality. Keep up the good work.

  • @SilverSurfer5150
    @SilverSurfer5150 2 роки тому

    I admire your video and the sincerity of which you spoke about the men of that period in British naval history. Thank you and God bless!

  • @chrismalcomson7640
    @chrismalcomson7640 3 роки тому

    My family has a naval history with one of them joining as a midshipman at the age of 12 and ending up an admeral. My mother loaned the naval museum his telescope and a whole bunch of other stuff for an exhibition. She even had a chunk of wood from the HMS Victory from another ancestor who served on the ship back in the day. She actually took it down to Portsmouth and asked if they wanted it back, bless her. I think she imagined there'd be a gap somewhere on the ship where this piece would neatly fit. She didn't know that every time a ship was refitted people would take bits of the replaced timbers as souveniers, sometimes making snuffboxes and such like out of them.. I should ask for it back because I bet its gathering dust in the museum basement..

  • @nevillemason6791
    @nevillemason6791 Рік тому

    I have a book about Trafalgar and HMS Victory. There were 703 men on the ship's books, average age 22. The youngest aged just 10. Although the crew were predominantly British (English 452, Welsh 24, Scots 72 and Irish 74) there were 53 from other countries and 28 Americans.

  • @Orangebiker1315
    @Orangebiker1315 6 років тому +3

    I was a guide on the Victory in 1977, when it was manned by Serving Matelots and Marines, great times, and a great laugh, have a copy of a video, which was made by the BBC, I get interviewed in the Surgeons Cabin! Kieren Prendeville of 'thats Life Fame' made it!

  • @shoutinghorse
    @shoutinghorse 3 роки тому

    Built at Chatham (my town of birth) dockyard from 1759-1765. Arguably the most famous British ship of all and still a commissioned ship of the line. The battle of Trafalgar cemented the Royal Navy's dominance of the seas and effectively put an end to Napoleon's threat of any invasion of England.

  • @johnfargher99
    @johnfargher99 4 роки тому

    Nelson is the greatest hero....He inspired millions of Britons.

  • @steveharris7938
    @steveharris7938 6 років тому +4

    There is something about I Vow To Thee My Country that makes me all emotional.

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  6 років тому +1

      I'm not even English and it gets to me. I seriously tear up.

    • @Kevin-mx1vi
      @Kevin-mx1vi 4 роки тому

      I assume you're aware that "I Vow To Thee My Country" uses the tune from the middle stanza of "Jupiter" from The Planet Suite by Gustav Holst ? (Who despite the name was British)

  • @nickmcmahon623
    @nickmcmahon623 5 років тому

    Love this. I’m sometimes a bit confused by whether Felipe loves us, hates us or both. Here he seems to be a friend which is nice, as I think it’s great that this lovely family have chosen to live in England.

    • @ThePostmodernFamily
      @ThePostmodernFamily  5 років тому +2

      I love what you were, dislike what you’ve become, but love you enough to work toward a rebirth. Because if England can come back, all of the west can.

  • @kateshermon4900
    @kateshermon4900 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for a beautiful video, everyone should be proud of where they come from.

  • @ThePwoo666
    @ThePwoo666 6 років тому +15

    Your best ever. I have some strange eye leakage going on.

  • @richardscales9560
    @richardscales9560 6 років тому +38

    Please not just Englishmen.
    514 English, 89 Irish, 66 Scottish, 30 Welsh, one Manx and one merely designated only as 'British'.
    six Maltese, two Canadian, two Indian and one from Jamaica.
    four West Indian and one African.
    22 men listed as 'American'. As we shall see below at least one of these was from a prominent English family. Most of the others were probably impressed at sea.
    nine Italians, seven Dutch, four Swedish and two each from Germany, Switzerland, Denmark and Norway. There were also one each from Portugal and Brazil.
    Four Frenchmen were listed as members of the crew. Whether they had been prisoners-of-war, or men fleeing the rule of Napoleon, is not recorded.
    The last 48 are listed as 'nationality unknown'.

    • @HarryFlashmanVC
      @HarryFlashmanVC 6 років тому +2

      Many Frenchmen fought against Napoleon, they were aristocrats and refugees from revolutionary and then Napoleonic France.
      There's was as doomed a fight as the loyal Americans who fought for the King during the revolutionary war

    • @BadgerUKvideo
      @BadgerUKvideo 6 років тому +1

      BumBum II Fair play but I think it's very important we recognise those who served us. The debt for our achievements should never be forgotten.

    • @karmabomb445
      @karmabomb445 6 років тому +6

      The point is he was fighting for Britain not just England.The quote "England expects......" reveals the true attitude and opinions of the ruling class of that era, or any era.

    • @tonygibson6806
      @tonygibson6806 6 років тому +6

      Karma Bomb linguistically England was interchangeable with Britain back then and more commonly used, impressing modern day ideas on the past is somewhat naive especially without taking account if context.

    • @fossy4321
      @fossy4321 6 років тому +1

      Didn't realise that the crews were so diverse. Thanks.

  • @moodyb2
    @moodyb2 4 роки тому +1

    What a beautiful documentary, successfully conveying a due sense of awe.

  • @carolynjanesutton4932
    @carolynjanesutton4932 4 роки тому +1

    I remember going there'when I was six. I never forgot being inside that ship. I have a photo (black and white!) of me sitting astride a cannon! Thank you for your lovely video.

  • @DrDaveW
    @DrDaveW 3 роки тому

    Obviously I’m very late to this, but I subscribe to you and just wanted to say something: HMS victory is the historical attraction that has moved me most, and you reaction has also affected me. I think ‘I vow to thee my country’ should be our national anthem. The last verse describes the decline of the empire perfectly

  • @y0utubeu5ername
    @y0utubeu5ername 6 років тому +27

    If you are not already aware of them, may I highly recommend the "Aubrey, Maturin" series of novels by Patrick O'Brian. The film "Master and Commander" staring Russell Crowe was based on three of the books. A very good film, but the books are much better. O'brian is noted for his great depth of knowledge of the navy at the time of the Napoleonic wars and goes into great detail about day to day life aboard ship.

    • @paulneal697
      @paulneal697 6 років тому +6

      I would also add Alexander Kent's "Bolitho" series and Dudley Pope's "Ramage" series as an excellent study of life aboard the 18th Century British Navy ships.

    • @markbrown4127
      @markbrown4127 6 років тому +2

      Best books I have ever read

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 6 років тому

      Paul Neal Alexander Kent writes the same novel again & again & again and then Again as his real name, Douglas Reeman.

    • @kevelliott
      @kevelliott 6 років тому +2

      I've read the entire series of 21 books about 5 times! (Due for re-read sometime soon...)

    • @marvinc999
      @marvinc999 6 років тому +2

      y0utubeu5ername -
      "series of novels by Patrick O'Brian"
      ABSO - bloody - LUTELY !!
      They are QUITE without parallel (and outstrip even good ol' C S Forester - IMHO).
      EVERY novel would have made a FABULOUS full-length feature film - even if you COULDN'T have a compulsory Pushy Dame, and a compulsory Clever Black Man to go with our English/British heroes.
      Damn the unimaginativeness of today's film execs !!!!!!
      And their gutlessness...................................

  • @MarkSmithSa
    @MarkSmithSa 4 роки тому

    Nelson's leadership style is still taught to all RN officers who still commemorate the Battle of Trafalgar on the 21st of October every year with a Trafalgar Night Dinner. "Nelson", by Tom Pocock, is an excellent book and worth a read even if not really interested in history.

  • @777petew
    @777petew 5 років тому

    We wanted to go into HMS Victory the last time we were in Portsmouth, but it was undergoing repairs, so thanks for taking us in there. It's obvious that your sense of awe is not about glorifying war, nor taking sides in the conflict that took place well over 200 years ago. I know it's about your sense of respect for the brave men who fought it. That came through well enough. You enjoyed the deep sense of history, as I do. War takes away so many talented and brave people on all sides. I just wish it could all end. Thanks again for an inspiring and very respectful video.

  • @lindahilger8488
    @lindahilger8488 6 років тому +2

    I just watched your his victory vid!!!!! That was the best vid iv e seen yet on THE HIS VICTORY!!!!!!! We'll done. Excellent job 10 thumbs up 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

  • @Everymanplease
    @Everymanplease 5 років тому

    Nelson wanted the signal to say 'Nelson confides that every man will do his duty'. Somebody (brave soul) suggested that 'England' might be substituted for 'Nelson' which Nelson agreed to. The Admiral's flag lieutenant, Pasco, when told to send the signal, suggested that 'expects' be used instead of 'confides' because the latter word would have to be spelled out whereas a flag for 'expects' was in signal locker. Thus the famous signal was determined by the limitation of naval signal flags.

  • @johnnoble2901
    @johnnoble2901 4 роки тому

    Somewhere in this video Felipe's speaks in awe of the men who manned the guns on HMS VIctory. There were similar men in the US Navy in 1812 - often they would have previously been in the Royal Navy. Until recently the RN was showing that the spirit is still there - I have seen them practising with telegraph poles. This competition finished in 1999 but there are still smaller scale local ones around Portsmouth and Fareham. Try this for size: just look up "Royal Navy Field Gun Competition 1997"

  • @GFSLombardo
    @GFSLombardo 6 років тому +2

    HMS Victory was a massive ship in its day. I have read reports from different British naval historians that claim there were 821 crew members, others claim it was 837 at the time of the Battle of Trafalgar. What is even more intriguing is that many historians are now fairly convinced that there were women on board and below decks on Victory during the battle. These reportedly were the WAGs of some of the ordinary sailors in the crew. And this practice was not considered particularly unusual at that time. Historians know that after the battle and upon Victory's return to England(with the body of Admiral Nelson), all the "officially" recognized sailors on-board Victory were to be awarded Gold Medals. Story goes that when this was announced several women appeared to collect their gold medal, claiming that they were on board Victory during the battle, and should be recognized as part of the crew. Too avoid further public embarrassment, the government, in full damage control mode, finally denied their claims on the "convenient" grounds that they were never" "officially" enrolled or paid as crewmembers. Such has been the role of sex in British naval history (and I haven't even mentioned Lady Hamilton once). True story.You can look it up...

    • @davidhoward2487
      @davidhoward2487 6 років тому

      The expression "Show a leg" comes from the Navy, as the sailors were due on duty, but not if a woman's leg was shown...

  • @xXExtremeGameXx
    @xXExtremeGameXx 4 роки тому

    Great video guys. As a Brit I take all this for granted. Perhaps we should all be a lot more patriotic

  • @UlsterDarkKnight
    @UlsterDarkKnight 4 роки тому

    As a proud British patriot i loved your video. Thank you for your support to our great nation

  • @bernardhughes8598
    @bernardhughes8598 6 років тому +4

    50 years ago I was a sea cadet and went to the Victory. All I can remember is that Nelson had his own toilet and the rest had to grab a rope and go over the side.

    • @GFSLombardo
      @GFSLombardo 6 років тому +1

      They do that at the White House now. (JUST KIDDING!)

    • @Insperato62
      @Insperato62 5 років тому +1

      Fair enough, the poor bugger only had one arm!

    • @bengunn3698
      @bengunn3698 4 роки тому

      @@GFSLombardo They do that from Westminster too, all over the nation.

  • @Mark13091961
    @Mark13091961 6 років тому +4

    Excellent and enjoyable video. Your appreciation of what you were seeing clearly comes across. I too recognise the difference that time and progress has made and one finds oneself questioning could I cope with the realities of their day. As an interesting;g side note it’s well worth looking into the history of Nelson himself. A small and vain man who loved wine and women in equal measure but he knew how to lead a ship and had the total respect of his men because he lead from the front; literally the first man when boarding enemy vessels. I think it was his experience of having his arm severed without anaesthetic that inspired the use of rum to dull the senses for future naval amputees

    • @joannagodfrey5111
      @joannagodfrey5111 6 років тому

      Mark Roberts "never mind the manouvers, always go straight at 'em"

    • @Mark13091961
      @Mark13091961 6 років тому

      Joanna Godfrey is that a direct Nelson quote?

  • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
    @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 6 років тому +2

    I do think it's a shame you got there when the masts were struck. If possible, you really should see her when they are replaced. The power of that ship is amazing even though she hasn't been to sea for over a century!

  • @paulpnehalliday2096
    @paulpnehalliday2096 5 років тому +1

    The choice of music is just so brilliant and beautiful

  • @PeterJPickles
    @PeterJPickles 6 років тому +22

    Sometimes it takes the prospective of a non-Brit to remind us what we take for granted. Cheers :) Sadly you talk to most youngsters here about Admiral Nelson, they think you're talking about a pub :)

  • @paularowe7651
    @paularowe7651 4 роки тому

    Hi, I enjoyed your little "vlog" about the Victory. I was down from London recently and visited the Mary Rose museum right there - did you not visit? It is fascinating being the oldest warship from 1510 (build date). The Mary Rose was King Henry v111's flagship sunk off Portsmouth 1545. Personally I have never been on the Victory but hope to soon (I hate other tourists!). glad you enjoyed the visit and appreciate your kind comments on our British naval history.

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen Рік тому

    When I was an old-fashioned carpenter, did Muay Thai and trained daily with the Danish Home Guard, I ate about 5000 calories a day as well. That is more than most elite athletes.

  • @jaywalk4446
    @jaywalk4446 4 роки тому +1

    An American, living in England, visiting a british naval dockyard and drinking spanish beer. I'd love to know what Nelson would make of that!

    • @chrisholland7367
      @chrisholland7367 4 роки тому

      Lol I wonder what Sir Francis Drake would have thought. You didn't mention the dockyard was Portsmouth or Plymouth?

    • @drey8
      @drey8 4 роки тому

      @@chrisholland7367 it's Portsmouth. And I'm sure Nelson would approve he was a bit of a radical thinker himself but probably more partial to the Jamaican rum.

  • @Rohnski
    @Rohnski 6 років тому +3

    I love how the flagship of the royal navy (HMS queen elizabeth) can be seen from nelson's quaters

  • @spikehere5866
    @spikehere5866 4 роки тому

    As a Limey I do have to say "England Expects." ... "Hardy, can you make sure that the Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, Dutch, French Royalists, Portuguese, Scots, Welsh, Irish, and all those dark fellows get the message too, there's a good chap."

  • @MegaBoilermaker
    @MegaBoilermaker 6 років тому

    An excellent, respectful piece of documentary film making.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 5 років тому

    HMS Victory is still commissioned in the Royal Navy. She is the flagship of the First Sea Lord.

  • @spammerwhammer5526
    @spammerwhammer5526 6 років тому

    If you get the chance visit Bucklers Hard in the New Forest, where many Royal Navy warships were built, and spend an hour or two in the museum. It's the nearest thing to a DIY guide to building a ship such as Victory.

  • @WgCdrLuddite
    @WgCdrLuddite 5 років тому +3

    5000 calories per day, of which 3000 were rum. Seriously, Americans often fail to understand the historical importance of booze in the days of Empire. The term "fighting drunk" didn't come from Ireland, it came from the Royal Navy and the British Army. Most disappointed that you finished in a pub drinking San Miguel lager.

    • @edusmart1064
      @edusmart1064 5 років тому +1

      Well perhaps you could take a few moments to patiently explain instead of berating someone who is taking a genuine interest in our history and culture. Who cares about the lager, it is on tap so many of the locals must e drinking it...

  • @martinshepherd8041
    @martinshepherd8041 3 роки тому

    When I served sometime at HMS Nelson I cold see the masts of Victory from my Dorm/Sleeping Quarters. Those masts fascinated me

  • @dasy2k1
    @dasy2k1 5 років тому +1

    HMS. Victory is the oldest still commissioned warship on the world.
    America often forgets that their USS Constitution is not the oldest (although is the oldest still afloat)
    Both however are fantastic ships

  • @cosmicsman666
    @cosmicsman666 6 років тому +5

    True warriors mate. Not knowing what was ahead without any fear. Some could say stupidity, but i say pride. Great vlog. Thanks.

    • @GFSLombardo
      @GFSLombardo 6 років тому +3

      The remarkable thing to me is that I think that these men on HMS Victory and the rest of the ships in the British fleet knew exactly what was in store for them when they went into battle -yet they went anyway. That no-nonsense "call of duty" is true heroism. And it still exists in the Royal Navy, from Trafalgar up to the present day.

    • @Georgestella100
      @Georgestella100 6 років тому +4

      Basically the RN went into battle three sheets to the wind. The daily alcohol ration was a gallon of beer or half a pint of rum! Rations were doubled before going into battle. It was not until 1850 that the ration was reduced to one eighth of a pint, still pretty potent!

    • @davidhoward2487
      @davidhoward2487 6 років тому

      Well, Churchill would second that motion!

  • @kinglear5952
    @kinglear5952 6 років тому +1

    All your videos are very likeable. Here I'm impressed by how knowledgeable your music choices are.

  • @karlmcgowan6929
    @karlmcgowan6929 6 років тому +5

    to all the people who do not know this. you know the saying son of a gun actually originates from the English ships like HMS victory.sailors would take their wives with them when they went to sea for long periods of time. while they were at sea the sailors and his wife would live beside the cannon the sailor operated, so on a lot of occasions the sailors and their wives didn't know they were pregnant and the wife would give birth on the ship were they were living, right next to the gun.hense the phrase son of a gun if it was a boy the couple had.

  • @redsquirrel1086
    @redsquirrel1086 5 років тому

    This is a thoughtful and respectful account of your visit to HMS Victory. Thank you.

  • @danhodson7187
    @danhodson7187 3 роки тому

    Goosebumps at I Vow To Thee, every time. Where's the damn salute emoji?!

  • @wanwandokko
    @wanwandokko 5 років тому

    Proud to have you on board HMS England! Keep up the great work with these videos.

  • @colingehrman7078
    @colingehrman7078 3 роки тому

    What a history what a nation , 2nd to none . British and proud

  • @johnnybeer3770
    @johnnybeer3770 3 роки тому

    Love your closing comments , makes me proud to be a Brit .

  • @kte1126
    @kte1126 3 роки тому +1

    That song gets me everytime!🥲🇬🇧

  • @steveshepherd943
    @steveshepherd943 6 років тому

    My nephew was born on Trafalgar Day, his Father at the time was still serving in the Royal Navy and my family have lived in Portsmouth for around 300 years, His Father (my brother-in-law) wanted to call him Horatio........my sister soon knocked that on the head!