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Kurt Rosenwinkel - This Is What Makes His Style Unique
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2018
- This Kurt Rosenwinkel Lesson is taking a look at a few phrases from his solo on Nefertiti off the Mark Turner "Ballad Session" album. Kurt has a very unique and strong sense of melody and I am focusing on one aspect of his playing in this video, highlighting melodies that have a large range and move across the barline.
Kurt Rosenwinkel is one of the most influential jazz musicians of the last 20 years. His impact on the scene both as a jazz guitarist and as a band leader/composer has been huge.
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I saw Kurt Rosenwinkel and Mark Turner play at the Village Vanguard sometime last year, and it was next level. Just like those recordings we know and love.
Brilliant! Would love to see that again! 🙂
Kurt Rosenwinkel is worth checking out if one wants to learn to play post-bop -type of songs with irregular harmonies that are not connected to each other! I liked the never ending scale exercise too, to achieve more modern approach to jazz improvisation in addition to the added chromaticism and interval leaps. Although I've been playing for quite some time, there's always something new to learn. Your channel is a goldmine! Keep it up.
What a great and inspiring video, thank you Jens! I would prefer a second vid about Kurt's chord shapes and the never ending scale exercise.
Thank you Michael! I would imagine that I can return to Rosenwinkel in other videos :)
same here!
Wonderful :) But hopefully I will find this vid, you have got a lot of videos :) you make a fantastic job!
Thanks Michael! I was talking about videos I didn't make yet :) I do have videos on the never ending scale exercise though 🙂
Here's a video on Rosenwinkel and some of things I really love about his playing! And of course: Who's next? 🙂
Awesome video
Some ideas: Mike Moreno, Hank Mobley, Wynton Kelly
Jens!! Thx for this videos, are really helpfull and easy to understand... could be interesting if you make a video about fills (like Rosenwinkel in his "Standards trio" or "East coast love affair" albums), its a beautiful and useful topic (and i dont found much material about this).
Thanks for read my looong message and sorry for my bad english!
Mike Moreno, Julian Lage
Jens Larsen Kenny Burrell 🕶
gilad hekselman plz!!
Got the opportunity to play on stage with Kurt when he came to perform as a guest artist at my college. He and our bass player played this crazy good rendition of reflections. What’s sad is Im not a guitar player and didn’t really know much about him before then, and I wish I did because he’s a very interesting soloist.
That's nice I got the chance to play with him once when he was visiting the school I studied at :) That was a really great experience!
I've just started getting into Rosenwinkel and this is helping me understand a little of what he is doing.
Thanks Dave! I find it hard to really analyze what he does, but I really do like his melodies :)
@Jens Larsen Kurt's improv more often than not has a haunting dark quality to it...very mysterious brooding subtle mesmerism with flourishes of unconventional beauty throne in....just crazy...
Yes! I like it too 🙂
Rick Beato just interviewed him, a good excuse for me to go back to this video :)
Thanks :)
For the second riff, just a note that A altered(or super locrian) is the same thing as Bb melodic minor (Bbmin/maj7), so the line really makes sense over either chords.
I saw Kurt at the Vangaurd about two years ago, he had a killer band with him, it was so good it actually made me uncomfortable, unbelievable
Awesome vid. Thanks for doing one on Kurt!
Of course! I love how he plays! 🙂👍
Thanks for turning me on to the Mark Turner album. It's good music.
You're very welcome! It is indeed a great album!
I was waiting for this video. Thanks a lot Jens. You are great.
Glad you like it! Who would you like to see next? 🙂
@@JensLarsen Nobody for now hahah .😀 There is already so much content on your channel. I am going through all your videos from the beginning one by one. Loving them!
Nice lesson, I do not know much Rosenwinkel; I will spotify him tomorrow, i was never listen to it,
You absolutely NEED to know Kurt!!! Let me know what you think,maybe I can recommend some stuff as well :)
Crazy about Zhivago !! That is such an incredible piece, entire album infact.
Awesome Jens , thank you!!
You're very welcome! Who would you like to see a video on? 🙂
thank you for sharing, Jens! you made a very inspiring video... I know some of the guitar players who studied with Kurt in Berlin (since I live in Berlin...) and they also told me about the never ending scale exercise! such a good exercise but really hard to execute it well :)
Thank you Tina! Yes, he also always talked about that in the masterclasses :) You can also hear him using it when he plays Coltrane Changes :)
Aquí en Valencia ( España) , hay un profesor que enseña este lenguaje. Se llama Joan Soler... Vivo lejos pero me encantaría aprender este lenguaje.Gracias por este magnífico material Jens...
Thanks Juan! Glad you like the video :)
And his tone is delicious
There is that! 🙂
Great , I was looking forward to this video :-) Rosenwinkel is an incredible guitarist. Agree with the other commenter about Mike Moreno. Also Vic Uris, Ed Bickert are worthy to check out.
I have Mike Moreno and Ed Bickert in my sights. Love Vic Juris as well :)
@@JensLarsen I just found this ua-cam.com/video/o4cUfkxZeeQ/v-deo.html
I can hear some hear some Ed Bickert influence in Kurt's playing... I'm not sure if I'm right though
Ok. I don't really hear that but I don't know Ed Bickerts playing that well 🙂
Yes, I hear it too, particular in the intro :)
Great lesson, glad I found your channel. Subbed!
Thank you very much! I am glad you found it useful!
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Kurt Rosenwinkel really has developed greatly from the start of his career to his current playing. From East Coast Love Affair and sounding like a generic modern jazz guitarist to epic and expansive improvisation like that found on Chords. Never learned much about post-Shorter era harmony in jazz, I must check out Nefertiti. I got some good ideas on trying to play better now.
Thanks for this video, Jens. Cheers from Norway
You're very welcome! I actually think that his lines on East Coast Love Affair are much the same as what he plays now? 🙂
I think I'll throw up here: that is, there's a sort-of bizarre lack of certain jazz albums available on CD's, but on EBay there's an Australian source listing these five-packs of albums. My fave was the Miles Davis 1980's bands, a criminally-neglected era IMO. I saw that band with Mike Stern AND John Scofield in Austin in 1983, one of those "We're a team, we're just playing for the song, La La La, meanwhile I'm a-gonna RIP YO FOOKIN HEAD OFF" - politely. To the point, another one is the five Wayne Shorter solo albums he kinda squeaked out while with Miles, like ALL the songs Shorter wrote back then. And the way HE wrote them, Mr. Davis had a habit of doing the shake'n'bake to every song he played.
I actually have no idea what you are trying to say? 🙂
Oh my, playing a scale up the neck? Wow! 5 minutes of my life ill never get back.
Well, I guess the superficial instant jazz solutions are on another channel 🙂
I’m just beginning to learn guitar and one of the first things I learned is the most practical way to learn scales is all the way up the neck on every string
I've been hearing a fair amount of pentatonics in Rosenwinkels playing. Could the first 5 notes, in the second bar of the first example be thought of as a major(b6)-pentatonic or is that too convoluted?
I think you can hear a lot of pentatonics in Kurts playing, but they are more clearly major or minor pentatonic melodies. This would be over-analyzing (to me, but of course that is subjective)
One thing I find very characteristic about Kurt that you didn't mention is his use of repeated notes especially in pentatonic lines. I think this is really characteristic - almost kind of naive sounding. I'm struggling to think of any other guitarist who does that kind of thing - possibly horn players, and Allan does some things with false fingerings in fast lines (the unison riff from Fred for instance) but not so much slower.
I think Metheny does that as well? It's also in a McLaughlin solo I was analyzing, but with him I don't know if it is something he does all the time 🙂
Actually McLaughlin I can hear doing that in my head right now.... It's funny I don't normally think of JM for some reason... Metheny, I'll have to listen out for that...
I haven't checked out every interview has said but I always got the impression Kurt was more influenced by PM than JM, but probably he checked them both out.
One influence I definitely hear, but haven't heard him mention as such is Jimmy Raney. KR's tone (disregarding the effects), technique and feel/rhythmic conception (including the laid back straight thing and heavy use of irregular groupings) really remind me of Raney, but he's never mentioned him to my knowledge - I know Raney was a big influence on Holdsworth, so maybe it's second hand. Anyway...maybe you know more?
I don't know. But i don't really hear Raney in Kurts playing., mostly because I don't have that specific idea of Raneys playing.
The main reason for not talking about the repeat notes is that there are no examples of it in this solo :) I really hear Metheny do that a lot, in exactly the same way.
Oh yeah, and I am not sure a Mary Halvorson analysis makes a whole lot of sense 🙂
I reckon there's some method in MH's madness...
Nonsense, it's all about the hat.
It is indeed mostly about that hat! 🙂
i ve always thought the his shirts were the real deal
luigi gallucci the shirts are the rhythm section to the hat’s soloist
You could say it’s about the ensemble
Pretty sure he wears it cuz he's bald
Regarding Rosenwinkel, there is a Swedish guitarist named Per-Oscar Nilsson who sounds eerily similiar to Rosenwinkel. Perhaps not material for making a video on (since he is so similiar) but figured I would mention him if there would ever be a ''shortage of Rosenwinkel'' at some point in ones life.
Thanks Anton, though I think it makes more sense to just do more videos on Rosenwinkel though? 🙂
@@JensLarsen That's precisely what I meant, more videos Rosenwinkel would be awesome. :)
That is quite likely to happen :) Especially since I make one of these every week :)
grazie mille pagiasso
You're very welcome!
Dear Jens - at point 2:20 you point out a wide register compressed within a short space which gives a striking quality to the line. I would say this is also a prominent feature of Tal Farlow's playing - there are many good examples of this on his recordings. We are spoilt for choice when it comes to listening to great players these days - and we are so fortunate be able to hear their work on You Tube. When I started 60 years ago I only had record player which could be set to 16 rpm in order to be able to capture fast passages. Nowadays, digital technology allows us to transcribe this stuff more easily. I would be interested to know what you use - Logic, Pro-Tools, Cubase or any other application. Your use of graphics, showing notation etc, is an added visual aid to understanding the principles you are explaining. Is there a video anywhere on You Tube that shows you playing on a gig anywhere ? If so, I would like to see and hear it, as it appears me that you are a very fine player.
Thanks Berne! There are lots of videos of me performing both on my channel and on the Traeben channel.
I use the program Transcribe! when I transcribe solos. I can very much recommend it, super useful. It can slow things down too but the most useful feature is that you can really pin point the place you want to hear
@@JensLarsen Thank you Jens x
hi Jens laptop dead lol watching from this little phone ha ha but thanx nice video, who's next? may be some none guitar players, horn players? or herbie handcock that 60,s and 70,s style?
Thanks Anthony! I am not so sure about the non guitar players, those videos don't always do that well, but who knows 🙂
I knew one of Kurt's first teachers - Jimmy Amadie. Was wondering if anyone else has heard of Jimmy Amadie?
Yes, our parents used to drive Kurt to his house for music lessons. I was in the car for many of those trips. He studied piano with Jimmy. I think that was in high school if I remember correctly. Before that Chris MacAlpine would come to our house in Mt Airy to teach us guitar.
Ohhhh boy Kurt Rosenwinkel! You either really love his playing or you hate it and I have seen so many people who is quite vocal of their distaste to his tone. Personally, I think it's unique and he has his own voice in the guitar world no body else has imo
Glad you like it! I don't know if I still see that so much. It used to be like that, but by now so many people sound like that?
Who would you like to see next? 🙂
Julian Lage!
I will get to him 🙂 I shot a Bill Frisell video today and I also have one on John Mclaughlin coming
Holy hell it's all thanks to Mahavishnu Orchestra as a starting point that I have gotten into Jazz in the first place along with Charlie Christian. I haven't checked some of Bill Frisell works though.
It was never obvious to me, but having somebody tell you to play scales over chord progressions seems very obvious, but the thought of doing that had forever escaped my clutches...!
Well, you could check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/u3rz6XuhByk/v-deo.html 🙂
Please do Lenny Breau!
Thanks! I am not so familar with him 🙂
Jens Larsen Lenny Breau was amazing...
Andres G Omg yes. Lenny was truly a wizard. Perhaps the most overlooked jazz guitarist ever, and he died too young. One of the instrument’s greatest innovators.
Curious to know what s the guitar you are using here. Thanks
That's my trusted old '77 Ibanez AS2630 🙂
Beautiful
Thank you!
Way overdue Jens! Lol joking, very much appreciated good work! 👍
You're very welcome! Who would you like to see a video on? 🙂
@@JensLarsen maybe pasquale grasso if possible,you've covered a lot of favs already. Appreciate you asking!
As I said in another comment I am a little hesitant with Pasquale because my impression is that he is still really upcoming and not touring so much and therefore more dependent on his own teaching materials online.
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His perfect pitch enables him to memorize long lines from any source. He simply is very creative and hip to high information. The guitar is weak as compared to some really fast sax phrases that has more sonic capabilities. Im really not into competition between instruments. The guitar should be appreciated on its on terms Segovia, Charlie Christian,Wes and Albert King are some examples.So what one can play a zillion ways technically over chords,what is the story and own sound? Notice attitudes among those who profit off the Black created form Jazz but don't even study Black Histories to understand the culture despite this being the internet age. Example ,go to google and than to Bing Images . Search Black Beethoven, Black,Hawaiian Royal Family, Olmecs and President Dwight Eisenhower's parents. The point is Jazz is not European music only! Blacks had to assimilate and than create something superior to the status quo. Most than did not accept b.s and worked around it while maintaining dignity . Brecker told Alvin Queen, he wished he had been born Black. Ask Alvin if he told me that during a call from Switzerland! Good videos and I'm sure you may know much of what I've stated as truths! Fast Fingers and 'tricks" don't produce real music with soul.
I am Kurt's brother. You guys are spreading rumors. Kurt was never known to have "perfect pitch" growing up.
Is that like kykynberg or yidmann or hymiwietz
Neither actually
Cory Henry does some similar things
Great! What similar things do you mean exactly? (if you don't mind me being curious..)
Hi ^^ Im not onto the most complex concepts of harmony cause i am learning just by myself, and not for so long, so probably I cant explain it the right way, but when hearing both of them, i feel they have a similar harmonic approach, i think you can notice it here ua-cam.com/video/Lc6Y3Eydals/v-deo.html . (i set the link of the video on the minute 7:44 intendedly) Maybe im wrong and its just my perception... Anyway, probably you were expecting a better response but I cant give it T.T im sorry....
Ur dutch, Right?
Nope
He sounds like he was influenced by Martino
His playing is simple and playful. Just follow your ears. Way too complicated of an analysis.
Sounds like you just want a transcription? 🙂