Yep. Claiming to want to learn his identity was just a ruse so that the Gothamites wouldn't get suspicious of him looking through the birth certificates.
How did he know though that he was Oswald Cobblepot? I take it he actually knew already who he was but how did he know? I guess he legit looked for that information too.
Yeah, he always knew who his parents were. When I was a kid, I thought he was stealing someone's identity. I just recently learned he was compiling his list.
So you really think all that was just to get their names? I thought he was looking for his parents and then it was kind of like...well, now that he has the list (later) he just used it to take all the first borns. Bu maybe you're right, because he is acting pretty dicey in this scene, like at 3:59 when he looks at the guard... and all of his "hearfelt" speeches were fake throughout the movie. But I guess I didn't realize that before lol (that his only goal here was finding all the first borns).
“His Parents, I hope he finds them.” At least Bruce is sympathetic, yeah he is smart to investigate it further. However at first glance he understands more than anyone about the importance of parents.
Apparently the Novelization explained that Oswald at one point killed his parents years ago and he's only pretending to act innocent so he can reach his original plan: writes the names of the sons of Gotham he wants to murder. I can't sympathize with anything like that. Oswald had what was coming. F*ck him.
2:10 Danny is such a good actor. I think The Penguin's emotion is genuine and he deeply desires to find his parents and find out who he was and why they abandoned him.
Daniel Williamson, maybe once that was the case with how he felt, but not at this point. SPOILERS! Penguin is just putting up an act (Don't forget, he was the one who staged the kidnapping to begin with). As Batman observed while watching him in the Hall of Records, "I think he knows who his parents are; There's something else." And, of course, he was right: Penguin's claiming to want to learn his identity was just a ruse so that the Gothamites would think nothing of him going through all the birth certificates, when he was in fact REALLY doing so in order to identify all the firstborn sons of Gotham as part of his larger plan to eventually abduct and kill them all. Though, you are right, Danny gave an amazing performance as him.
The Penguin was right about one thing when he spoke on television. "I want to try and understand why. Why I guess they did what they had to do. To a child, who was born a little different. A child who spent his first Christmas and many ever since in a sewer."
I love the fact that in Gotham all the villains and even the batman himself is broken inside which makes them complicated characters with good and bad sides.
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 Both are bad depending on if he's in something family friendly like Lego Batman or something hardcore like Arkham game series.
Speaking of another connection THe actor who plays Mac's dad is the kidnapper clown Mac:Guys....I just found out why my dad went to prison. He dressed as a clown and tried to kidnap a baby.... Charlie:Why the hell would he do that? Frank:.....I uhhh gotta go....
@@astaciamckinnis3969 I'm more concerned about the entire crowd's performance. Not ONE person steps in with quick thinking? Granted it's a movie but yeah.
Burton’s Batman world is amazingly extravagant and some of the most nostalgic cinematography available. I’ll watch this on a Christmas Eve as it was meant to be enjoyed.
@@platinumpepe8626 He would have saved that for later, knowing him. "It's stew early, that opportunity's only a baby one; I want all the kids in the whole CITY!" (not that I knew the Penguin for puns, but this seems appropriate.)
Such a beautifully planned rescue. The perfect launch event for Penguin to spin his lies, get into the Hall of Records and start recording names of more innocent children to kill..... what a monster. ☠️
Danny elfman did a great job creating this introduction theme here at 1:26. That's one thing I've always liked about Danny elfman"s career as a composer, how he does intros, prologues, introductions and outros.
He is, notice how he's not actually trying to look for his parents in the records office, he's writing down the names of all the firstborn children. His original plan always was to kill Gotham's kids.
Should really laud Tim Burton's direction in the movie. This scene, both literally and figuratively, had the Penguin rising out of the dark underground and onto the bright surface, revealing himself to the world. The shot at 1:26 shows it all. And the background score was just perfect. That's just, pure artistic genius direction on Burton's part.
Imagine you're watching 'It's Always Sunny' one day and your parents come in and say "Oh yeah, Danny Devito! I remember we let him hold you once for a scene in that Batman movie..."
I wish Tim Burton still had his edge. He just seems to do these ultra "family friendly" glazed over movies. I want to go to movies again to dream again.
@@danielwilliamson6180 Yeah... The fact that his very first plan was to write a bunch of names of babies he wants to murder. Even worse was that the novelization explain how he knew his parents was because he previously murdered them and he's trying to play the innocent game for Gotham. There's even a article that Bruce reads and it reveals kids that were NEVER found. I'm sorry, I can't sympathize with a child killer. No matter how emotional Danny Elfman's score is.
@@danielwilliamson6180 Remember, he randomly bit some guy's nose hard and that's plenty to put off a lot of people. Maybe if he wasn't so bloody centered on killing people (if he had any choice or chance in the matter) he'd have been fine, maybe he'd have ended up owning a fish canning business and a nice home in Antarctica. "The Penguin's Salmon" doesn't sound like a bad name in a wholesome way but I realize I'm just talking fanficion here.
@@JackRabs honestly that was long ago when I wrote that. I love all Batman villains. But Gotham portrays them all a little differently, but their penguin is just kinda uhhh
@@camigabastor6981 idk why so many people like him so much in that show..jus cause he runs shit..like. His employees dont even like him 😐 why tf do you 😂 not u but ..them. The show woulda been better if he had this backstory..no parents.
I don’t know if it was intentional, but found it interesting that a clown kidnapped the baby and the penguin “defeated” said clown. Not to dissimilar to a certain dark knight stop another criminal clown.
Why is Bruce immediately concerned and doubting penguin’s story. when he just showed his face to all Gotham for the first time in years. Even though Penguin was probably telling half the truth.
Presidential candidate Ken Ben Sebben: "Shake hand. Kiss baby. Shake hand. Kiss baby. Shake hand. Kiss baby. Kiss hand. Shake baby. Kiss hand. Shake baby. Kiss hand..."
Gotham literally has the worst police force ever.
Guess that's why Batman returns...
Actually, you're thinking of the Bikini Bottom Police Force
"Let's just leave a stranger alone in a room full of personal records."
It’s on purpose so Batman can do stuff
Corrupt Police.
I finally realized what he was doing in the hall of records... he was finding all the first born children of Gotham...
Yep. Claiming to want to learn his identity was just a ruse so that the Gothamites wouldn't get suspicious of him looking through the birth certificates.
How did he know though that he was Oswald Cobblepot? I take it he actually knew already who he was but how did he know? I guess he legit looked for that information too.
Yeah, he always knew who his parents were. When I was a kid, I thought he was stealing someone's identity. I just recently learned he was compiling his list.
So you really think all that was just to get their names? I thought he was looking for his parents and then it was kind of like...well, now that he has the list (later) he just used it to take all the first borns. Bu maybe you're right, because he is acting pretty dicey in this scene, like at 3:59 when he looks at the guard... and all of his "hearfelt" speeches were fake throughout the movie. But I guess I didn't realize that before lol (that his only goal here was finding all the first borns).
I always thought that he killed his parents years before
“His Parents, I hope he finds them.”
At least Bruce is sympathetic, yeah he is smart to investigate it further. However at first glance he understands more than anyone about the importance of parents.
Apparently the Novelization explained that Oswald at one point killed his parents years ago and he's only pretending to act innocent so he can reach his original plan: writes the names of the sons of Gotham he wants to murder. I can't sympathize with anything like that. Oswald had what was coming. F*ck him.
I think it's precisely because he can relate that he can smell insincerity.
He became suspicious when he saw Max Shrek standing with the penguin.
Penguin:*Saves baby*
News reporters: You're a hero!!
Penguin:I'm not a hero, I'm the trashman!!
And then, he’ll start eatin garbage
@@boomdini9744 and then he beats a guy with the trashcan
"I'm a villain don't you see!?"
Yes he just wanted to fool everyone the whole Gotham city like he said I can play this stinking city like a harp from hell so he was fooling them.
@@smokeybanjoboy (eating trash) that was delicious
2:10 Danny is such a good actor. I think The Penguin's emotion is genuine and he deeply desires to find his parents and find out who he was and why they abandoned him.
Daniel Williamson, maybe once that was the case with how he felt, but not at this point.
SPOILERS!
Penguin is just putting up an act (Don't forget, he was the one who staged the kidnapping to begin with). As Batman observed while watching him in the Hall of Records, "I think he knows who his parents are; There's something else." And, of course, he was right: Penguin's claiming to want to learn his identity was just a ruse so that the Gothamites would think nothing of him going through all the birth certificates, when he was in fact REALLY doing so in order to identify all the firstborn sons of Gotham as part of his larger plan to eventually abduct and kill them all.
Though, you are right, Danny gave an amazing performance as him.
Maybe so. But he did want to find out who his parents were.
The Penguin was right about one thing when he spoke on television. "I want to try and understand why. Why I guess they did what they had to do. To a child, who was born a little different. A child who spent his first Christmas and many ever since in a sewer."
@Vegeta Dbiop Relatable.
@@danielwilliamson6180 Watch the damn movie first
Danny Devito really shines in this role. He doesn't get enough praise for his work in the film.
Awesome character, one clip made my heart ache and my eyes wet, yet he still looks devilish
Hated this when I was a kid. Scared tf out of me. Too creepy. Didn’t understand it til I got older
I saw where he got nominated for a Razzie Award for this film. WTF?!? Another Razzie moment that has not aged well at all.
@@CBright7831Danny DeVito deserved the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.
I love the fact that in Gotham all the villains and even the batman himself is broken inside which makes them complicated characters with good and bad sides.
That is why I like Injustice dimension over the canon dimension.
@YamiXeno The joker have a bad side and a "joker side"
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 Both are bad depending on if he's in something family friendly like Lego Batman or something hardcore like Arkham game series.
@ I would exclude Edward, he was driven into his obsession by society and his abusive father
@ Ah gotcha, I probably mixed that up with a different version ^^
*Pops out of sewer*
Penguin: Look what Charlie and I found.
*Shows Mayor's baby*
god I love that show
The gang finds a sewer baby
Speaking of another connection
THe actor who plays Mac's dad is the kidnapper clown
Mac:Guys....I just found out why my dad went to prison. He dressed as a clown and tried to kidnap a baby....
Charlie:Why the hell would he do that?
Frank:.....I uhhh gotta go....
“Put it back. It don’t belong to you.”
(grabs baby)
(crowd gasps dramatically)
"I'm not really one for speeches, so I'll just say, 'thanks'."
Awesome
what a troll
What a performance
@@astaciamckinnis3969 I'm more concerned about the entire crowd's performance. Not ONE person steps in with quick thinking? Granted it's a movie but yeah.
I just hope that wasn't a real baby seen during the flips. Seriously, that's a PR departments' worst nightmare
Actor who plays the clown is Luther Mac’s dad In It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia
Burton’s Batman world is amazingly extravagant and some of the most nostalgic cinematography available. I’ll watch this on a Christmas Eve as it was meant to be enjoyed.
Great Christmas movie
Along with diehard?
@@bonzo319 imma say it: diehard ain’t a Christmas movie
“Macs dad steals a baby and sells it to frank” is my favorite it’s always sunny episode
Zillous Grom no has to be the nightman cometh
A human infant soaked in rum
Greg brought me here.
WOW you're absolutely right! he is MAC'S DAD. this makes this even funnier
Proof that tragic villains can still be villains, and not get 'redeemed'
No, proof that a villain can be great without being tragic. He's a freak
@@tizianoferrigno588You didn't watch the movie
Dude's name literally is Shrek. 3:43
Max shreck was the name of the actor who played dracula in nosferatu. He was the first Dracula.
His character was initially written to be Harvey Dent but Tim Burton changed him to Max Schreck.
@@mikoyanig5512 Orlok, Count Orlok is Dracula's proxy but not the same character.
@@26bema that's right my apologies it wasnt dracula it was an interpretation of bram stokers dracula with different names and places
SOME-
"If you ever feel useless, remember that Gotham has a police department".
Huh, penguin is actually smart, get a goon to kidnap a baby and then give it to penguin so he can fake saving the baby to find the names of people
Is that really what happened? I thought he just wanted to eat baby stew
Did you figure that out all by yourself pal or did your mommy explain it to you?
@@platinumpepe8626 He would have saved that for later, knowing him. "It's stew early, that opportunity's only a baby one; I want all the kids in the whole CITY!"
(not that I knew the Penguin for puns, but this seems appropriate.)
At least he’s nice to the little baby 😂
Keep in mind he tried to kill babies at the end of the movie lol
The actor who plays the mayor should run for office in real life. That empty bullshit speech was spot on.
1:06
I like to think that's not DeVito being Penguin and is just him trying to make a baby laugh lol
This made me giggle🤭
I can’t believe that guy did all those flips with a real baby in his hands.
Probably is the own dad
In this scene is not a real baby
Gabriel16 did you go to IMDB? There’s a photo of the baby with a description of “stunt baby” it was a real baby.
Desiderio Parroquiano it actually was his dad holding the baby in that scene. Movies tired to be so realistic back then.
@@Sirpushyou must have been exhausting.
I like that Bruce is immediately suspicious and kind of hates himself for that.
I think that when Penguin rises out from the sewer accompanied by Danny Elfman's music, it's so over the top. Oh god I'm laughing so hard.
It's not really suited for The Penguin.
Daniel Williamson no, not really.
Yea, it's like he's a rock star making a grand entrance on stage: "Ladies and Gentleman: PENGUIN!"
@Jason Blaha’s Strength and Fatness they don't make them like they used to
@@danielwilliamson6180Nah, it suts him
Such a beautifully planned rescue. The perfect launch event for Penguin to spin his lies, get into the Hall of Records and start recording names of more innocent children to kill..... what a monster. ☠️
I recently learned that the clown is the same actor that plays Mac's Dad, and my mind is blown. He doesn't blink.
Danny elfman did a great job creating this introduction theme here at 1:26. That's one thing I've always liked about Danny elfman"s career as a composer, how he does intros, prologues, introductions and outros.
So is penguin a bad guy
DC: Well yes but actually no
Indeed ... No one is completly good or evil ... So "bad guy" can do good actions and good guy can do evil stuff sometimes.
@MYTHIC GAMING And?
I mean, in this movie it is, but in lots of comics ..... well...
He's a little bit of both. But Max is the true villain in this one.
He is, notice how he's not actually trying to look for his parents in the records office, he's writing down the names of all the firstborn children. His original plan always was to kill Gotham's kids.
Should really laud Tim Burton's direction in the movie. This scene, both literally and figuratively, had the Penguin rising out of the dark underground and onto the bright surface, revealing himself to the world. The shot at 1:26 shows it all. And the background score was just perfect. That's just, pure artistic genius direction on Burton's part.
Imagine you're watching 'It's Always Sunny' one day and your parents come in and say "Oh yeah, Danny Devito! I remember we let him hold you once for a scene in that Batman movie..."
Bonus points because you were also held by Mac's dad in this scene. 😳😳😳
@@newwaveknight1 I just came across that fact myself! 😆
I wish Tim Burton still had his edge. He just seems to do these ultra "family friendly" glazed over movies. I want to go to movies again to dream again.
Tim Burton knew how to make these movies
This is the best carnation of the Penguin , it’s the most underrated at that. I wish his humanity was explored
Mac's dad and Frank worked together on here before Always Sunny in Philadelphia lol
KiamarMasterT qua
Holy Shit
The baby is Mac too. Haha!
Wow, good eye
Mac's Dad kidnapping a baby just for Frank to save it to make himself look like a hero sounds like an actual 'Always Sunny' episode.
This read like one of the title cards from the show. I heard "Temptation Sensation" play as I read this. 😂😂😂
Penguin and his signature monocle, it's classic
batman 89 and batman returns was a awesome movies
Chris Ricca danny elfman did great with the soundtrack for the batman89
They're classics. Batman Forever and The Dark Knight will forever be my favorites.
Even the prince soundtrack couldn’t ruin the first movie
Batman 1989 > Batman Returns > Batman Forever > Batman and Robin. That's my ranking of them and it's the order they came out in..lol
I don't think Batman forever was that bad either. It was really just the last one.
Man I feel bad for him
The background music in the scene which he dies makes you feel really bad for him despite what he has done.
I also feel bad for othere villans like two face and red hood
@@douglet2294 seen Joker?
Daniel It’s almost like the first born of Gotham kinda deserved what he gave them
@@danielwilliamson6180 Yeah... The fact that his very first plan was to write a bunch of names of babies he wants to murder. Even worse was that the novelization explain how he knew his parents was because he previously murdered them and he's trying to play the innocent game for Gotham. There's even a article that Bruce reads and it reveals kids that were NEVER found. I'm sorry, I can't sympathize with a child killer. No matter how emotional Danny Elfman's score is.
Gotham cop: "should we do something!?"
GPD: "nah....Batman got this"
It took me years to realize that the last scene was basically how he went and got the names of every first born son in Gotham.
Always bothred me- how the hell did he went all the way up with this duck?? The head alone would have stopped him about 3/4 of the way
True, the mechanics always confused me
Maybe the head folds in on itself (like a radio antenna)
I'm guessing there's a second lift inside the duck that The Penguin was standing on.
Tim Burton. go figure
EXACTLY
That look on Bruce's face just spells "I'm going to ruin this man's entire career".
2:45 that dramatic fake turn cracks me up every time
That is the calmest baby I’ve ever seen
Not a tear in his eye look
"What's the deal Mr Shrek?"
"OUTSIDE!!!!!!!"
I really like that Bruce is paying such close attention, like he is shocked a criminal has a deeper reason then just greed.
Christopher Walken just nailing those inflections there. Exactly how a human sounds.
u skipped the final seconds, when he writes down names and mumbles something about copplepo....
Danny DeVito
playd this role soo damn good!!
I actually feel bad for him:(
Same here.
GalahaD 1347 ikr. People who were born different deserve to be respected like everybody else
well hes actually not looking for his parents, but for the first born sons of Gotham so he can kill them so...
Despite what he did. When he dies you really feel for him. Max's manipulation of him brought about his downfall.
@@danielwilliamson6180 Remember, he randomly bit some guy's nose hard and that's plenty to put off a lot of people. Maybe if he wasn't so bloody centered on killing people (if he had any choice or chance in the matter) he'd have been fine, maybe he'd have ended up owning a fish canning business and a nice home in Antarctica. "The Penguin's Salmon" doesn't sound like a bad name in a wholesome way but I realize I'm just talking fanficion here.
well, i love penguin's hand writing
The penguin looks to be Gru’s grandfather
not all superheroes wear capes
Mexican Weiss Schnee
They wear trench coats
I like this penguin.
Shadowkey392 me to he funny
My favorite penguin was the first penguin that entered the TV series of Batman. And of course the penguin from Gotham, he's so hilarious
@@camigabastor6981 i hate Gothams penguin. I only liked him in the 1st season..and when he took the wrap for killing Galavan.
@@JackRabs honestly that was long ago when I wrote that. I love all Batman villains. But Gotham portrays them all a little differently, but their penguin is just kinda uhhh
@@camigabastor6981 idk why so many people like him so much in that show..jus cause he runs shit..like. His employees dont even like him 😐 why tf do you 😂 not u but ..them. The show woulda been better if he had this backstory..no parents.
Witness 1: Oh my god! He grabbed the baby!
Witness 2: Let's just stand here and watch!
Lols he flipped while holding the baby thats shits hilarious man loved this movie as a kid 😂
3:59 That scared me. ;*(
Would had been perfect for teaser trailer.
How does that scare you I didn't even got scared and besides he's too cute to to scary
@@emilysanseverino1612 It was almost like for a second, he could see me from within the 1992 movie.
Better title: Penguin "saves" baby | Batman Returns.
Only Tim Burton can make Batman real.
Penguin may have been bad but he just wanted to be loved since Everyone he knew left him
Loved the atmosphere in these movies
4:10 I just love those sinister little noises he makes lol
Wow thank you Penguin. Someone make this guy the mayor!
Bruce is capable of empathy, he just doesn’t let it get in the way of what he has to do.
Damn Macs dad got some acrobatic skills
Wow, what a nice guy. He should run for mayor
0:11
Well ladies and gentlemen... we got him!
No one thought to reach out and grab the clown in the time it took for him to talk into the microphone...
He’s doing it the good old fashioned way with a feather pen. Hope he spells the names right.
I don’t know if it was intentional, but found it interesting that a clown kidnapped the baby and the penguin “defeated” said clown. Not to dissimilar to a certain dark knight stop another criminal clown.
Why is Bruce immediately concerned and doubting penguin’s story. when he just showed his face to all Gotham for the first time in years. Even though Penguin was probably telling half the truth.
I love Tim Burton
Man I remember watching this as a kid and don’t remember any of the movie. Gunna watch it this weekend, it’s such an awesome movie
I like how the flash bulbs bothered him.
the little things.
I fucking love this batman cinematic universe.
So do I.
Yes the best film
0:52 you can see a bit of that canal move, like its some rubber.
I bet ya that baby must of been legit scared when he saw Danny as Penguin on set.
Does anyone know the real life identity of the baby?
If burton made this film today devito gets an oscar nomination.
the best version of batman...because Christopher walkin
Didn’t anybody question just how ready he seemed to save a baby and rise out of that exact manhole?
its suppose to be exaggerated its a satire on politics
Penguin lives in the sewer and just noticed that circus performer carrying a child. It's not really weird
Laughs are cheap...Mac's Dad is going for gasps
To the subtitles, at 2:52 he’s saying “many since”.
I used to gag every time I looked at the Danny Devito penguin
Dude literally backflips in the background for like 5 seconds and everyone just stood there like it's normal
there was plenty of time to catch the clown when he was in the booth, but they just stood there
Danny devito is a calming presence to babies.
I find it kind of funny how the Penguin constantly shields his face when the
photographers are taking pictures.
This movie is campy and great, but has moments like this that just hit you in the chest 3:00
I hope Danny DeVito comes back for the DCEU.
Him and Michelle Pfeiffer
I like 90's Gotham city. Grey street and building and atmosphere, and analog TV and something.
Danny
You are so incredible
All the penguin had to do was give him an ocular pat-down and and the baby was cleared for passage
this movie is comforting idk why
A gang of clowns is more of the Joker's style, not the Penguin's.
I think in universe they took inspiration from the Joker, who knows maybe some of his former goons joined the penguin
@@sugdolomar “Our police have rounded up all The Joker’s men” - Commissioner Gordon, Batman 1989
@@mtd1089 as if they didn't broke out. This is Gotham we're talking about.
I'm pretty sure in the Hall of Records, while writing down the names of each first born, he finally discovered his true identity as well.
The subtitles are spot on 🙄
Presidential candidate Ken Ben Sebben:
"Shake hand.
Kiss baby.
Shake hand.
Kiss baby.
Shake hand.
Kiss baby.
Kiss hand.
Shake baby.
Kiss hand.
Shake baby.
Kiss hand..."
It's weird to think that the baby actor is now in their 30s
I searched for ‘penguin protecting its baby’ and UA-cam gave me this.
I mean... they’re technically not wrong.
The sound bite of the Grinch going through the phone book comes to mind when he's sliding the documents
The baby paid the troll toll !! 😁
Batman Returns was ok but it didn't feel like it was set in a city. More like a bio-dome because of the extremely claustrophobic sound stage.
I just noticed that.
That was the smoothest kidnapping in a movie