Telefunken 251 vs Flea 251 vs Bock audio 251.. How close REALLY are they?!

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  • Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
  • Absolutely pains me to release an untuned & uncomp'd vocal, but I couldn't find a video of these mics side-by-side on the same take.. Hope it helps you fellow nerds, pick the right mic for you!!!
    All high end versions of the wonderful 251 microphone by Telefunken, Flea & Bock Audio. Let me know your thoughts below! Male & Female Vocal mic comparison without processing/tuning or colouration to the signal other than the recording chain below.
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    Quick Links;
    Male Telefunken 251-E - • Telefunken 251 vs Flea...
    Female Telefunken 251-E - • Telefunken 251 vs Flea...
    Male Flea 251 - • Telefunken 251 vs Flea...
    Female Flea 251 - • Telefunken 251 vs Flea...
    Male Bock Audio 251 - • Telefunken 251 vs Flea...
    Female Bock Audio 251 - • Telefunken 251 vs Flea...
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    All vocal’s matched at around 0.1-0.2db at the loudest sections relative to the take / with closely matched channels at 96khz on an AMS neve genesys black G32, 1073 mic pre-amp
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    Download link for the raw vocals, for listening ideally with studio monitors or headphones! Special thanks to ‪@Studiocare‬ for the support - www.dropbox.co...
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    Links to the original music by Lonely The Brave & Saint Vienna.
    Male vocal - “chasing knives” - original here - open.spotify.c...
    Female vocal - Saint Vienna - open.spotify.c...
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    Instagram - @LapwingStudio
    Thanks to ‪@LonelyTheBraveMusic‬ / ‪@saint_vienna‬
    Easy Life Records for use of "Chasing Knives" by Lonely The Brave

КОМЕНТАРІ • 36

  • @timcampbell3904
    @timcampbell3904 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for doing this.

    • @lapwingstudio
      @lapwingstudio  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for checking it out Tim!! Hoping to check out the new bock 251 vs the old bock 251 soon too!! 🙌 which one did you prefer here? 🤔

    • @timcampbell3904
      @timcampbell3904 Рік тому +2

      @@lapwingstudio well you know I am biased. I think the FLEA sounds pretty darn good :)

    • @lapwingstudio
      @lapwingstudio  Рік тому

      @@timcampbell3904 hah! Well the capsule does sound incredible 🥹 I think the mid range has the best translation for whatever reason, on the flea. And I had to do way less de-essing to flea, as it sound smoother on the top end. I did think they all sounded slightly different though - but more of a “preference” than ever a problem 🤔😅

    • @timcampbell3904
      @timcampbell3904 Рік тому

      @@lapwingstudio I agree. I have shared this link. I think that it's great that you are enough brave to share such raw performances. This is really what we need to hear to truly
      be able to judge

    • @lapwingstudio
      @lapwingstudio  Рік тому

      @@timcampbell3904 hah thanks Tim, I was very close to not posting this because of my tuning and things, but ultimately this is what I’d want to hear objectively when I’m searching UA-cam myself! So I stuck with it! I also started doing a processed with full instrumental, but then processed the mics all differently, so it started to get even more “what I personally would do to each mic”, as opposed to someone else and their own treatment preferences! Thanks for sharing too 🙌 feel free to reach out any time! LapwingStudio@gmail.com - have a good one!

  • @Prince.Mykal.Vision
    @Prince.Mykal.Vision Рік тому +7

    Without an example WITH music, these type of test are always incomplete. Its one thing to hear the mics in contrast to each other acapella, its another thing to hear how they perform in real life context. I'm always interested in hearing sample in context with the music. I've shotout over a hundred mics and preamps, and its never mattered what they sounded like acapella (unless your doing acapella music). Choices were always made with respect to how the mics fared in musical context.

    • @lapwingstudio
      @lapwingstudio  Рік тому +5

      I hear where you’re coming from, but all the mics required different and more importantly preferential treatment to what I personally like the sound of.. so I didn’t want to colour the sound at all with any unintended bias at all. Purely just to show what they sound like without anything else other than the mic at play, from an engineering point of view 👍

  • @Lukas-wx9gx
    @Lukas-wx9gx 14 днів тому

    0:03 Telefunken
    1:01 Bock
    2:01 Flea

  • @EandVEntertainment
    @EandVEntertainment Рік тому +5

    The Bock is more modern sounding. The FleA and the Tele are very similar sounding, with the FleA being a touch warmer; a little more midrange, a little more mellow on top. That FleA is definitely what I'm looking for.

  • @josueacosta4309
    @josueacosta4309 Рік тому +2

    thanks for this comparation, I have a bock 251, i think it extend the bass frecuencies a little bit

    • @PoppybLuntz
      @PoppybLuntz 8 місяців тому

      how do you liike it? I was thinking about selling my Neumann U87ai and getting one but now im thiinking about getting the flea 251.

    • @ThENuKeBeSt
      @ThENuKeBeSt 5 місяців тому

      @@PoppybLuntz The u87AI is the biggest scam ever, it costs around 300$ to produce them and they're selling it for around 3k, that's crazy, the news u87 sound like crap, I suggest you to sell it ASAP and get that FLEA you won't regret it.

  • @natura808
    @natura808 Рік тому

    Really appreciate you for doing that!

  • @Excellent2009able
    @Excellent2009able Рік тому +2

    Hey dude, great video & singing 🤩ever try a NLP Audio 251 ? Love to know how it would sit with them !

  • @MariJu1ce
    @MariJu1ce Рік тому +1

    Cool demo. But wish you would have done some other instruments too, guitar, keys, drums etc. which one did you like the best?

  • @pavmx703
    @pavmx703 4 місяці тому +1

    This honestly just sounds like you used the camera mic. There's this weird directionality to the sound and you can't really hear them well enough to make any kind of comparison because most of your energy is being spent just trying to hear at all. I'm going to assume this is the room sound or something. My volume is maxed out and it's still low.

  • @georgyurov4140
    @georgyurov4140 Рік тому +2

    Telefunken all the way !

    • @lapwingstudio
      @lapwingstudio  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I do like the telefunken! I put this on Instagram and had mixed feedback on the flea too. I think that’s class in the mids

    • @realtalkroscoeg
      @realtalkroscoeg Рік тому

      @@lapwingstudio which one do you like the best?

    • @lapwingstudio
      @lapwingstudio  Рік тому +1

      @@realtalkroscoeg on this particular session! I preferred tele 251 on male vocals and flea 251 on female.. but I own the bock 251 and I genuinely think you can make great records with all three, just more of less EQ and de-essing.. so take your pick! 😅

    • @natura808
      @natura808 Рік тому

      ​@@lapwingstudio Bock was the harshest one of all and duller on the top end considering the price - Flea is a winner here.

    • @realtalkroscoeg
      @realtalkroscoeg Рік тому

      @@natura808yeah i’m feeling the Flea 251, I just got it back

  • @RainnyBooBi
    @RainnyBooBi Рік тому +3

    Flea 2:59
    Tele 3:37
    Bock 3:18
    Tele 00:03
    Flea 2:01

  • @joshgarcia336
    @joshgarcia336 Рік тому +1

    the flea sounds the best imo. what type of pop filter is that, what's the brand

    • @lapwingstudio
      @lapwingstudio  Рік тому

      Nice one ok! Thanks for checking it out 🙌
      The pop filter is a foam insert & on a “pop audio” (Uk company I think?)

  • @HoneyWindbutton
    @HoneyWindbutton Рік тому

    Thanks for doing this. they all sounds pretty boring. Give me a 47 or 49 flavor any day

  • @griploc1981
    @griploc1981 2 місяці тому

    Telefunken is miles better than the clones. Wow