Football has changed not just because of messi and Ronaldo but we don't have players like before, xavi iniesta busquets ramos Rooney Özil Ronaldinho carlos etc... players like these also played a big role in Ronaldo and Messi's careers
@@gaara4667 The same coach for whom plays or played Bernando Silva, Jeremy Doku, Riyad Mahrez, David Silva, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Dani Alves, etc...
Yeah it’s not just because of Messi and Ronaldo. We long for players like Sanchez, hazard, Neymar who showed authenticity and electricity on the pitch that doesn’t exist anymore. I agree that pepball has mostly killed the childlike joy in modern football
@furrycheetah social media has destroyed a lot, it destroyed people talking to each other face to face and allowed some people to say things to others that they would never have the spine to say to their face
I personally miss the pre-Messi and Ronaldo era during the 90's and early 2000's when almost every team was full of superstar players wether be it the Premier League, La Liga or Serie A and was not just revolving on a few like Ronaldo and Messi for fame and publicity of the game. Greetings from Mars.
Messi and Ronaldo were simply TOO good, they made other players look bang average, hey if you don't know much about football, this is the channel for you, take a look and subscribe! 👍❤
Messi And Ronaldo era is the best era of all time , pre Messi And Ronaldo era is the second best . This era doesn’t have the same hype And emotions as before
The players in the 2010's especially those who played in Real Madrid and Barcelona alongside Messi and Ronaldo were the greatest to ever play the game.
How do you become so good that that you make todays talents look like mediocre players 😭 Messi and Ronaldo are truly generational master classes 🙏 Wonderful video by the way🔥🔥
These two just completely dwarf a lot of legendary things in football. Take 2014 for example. That world cup is mainly remembered because of the 7-1. But anyone who watched the 2014 final may remember Bastian Schweinsteiger‘s performance. The dude had multiple fouls and even a bleeding wound and still pushed his German team like an absolute boss til the very end. And he wasn‘t even the captain. It was the best performance I have ever seen in a world cup final. And in Germany, people still talk about it today. But outside of Germany, it is not remembered. Because Messi was on the pitch during that game. Ever since Argentina won in 2022, things like Schweinsteiger‘s performance are even more forgotten. And that is plain insulting…
Talk about neymar.. La remotada(psg comeback), 2014 ucl golden Boot, brazil's all time goal scorer and highest international assists maker in history.. 2021 copa America performance, 2020 ucl especially against bayern final(what a performance).
I enjoyed football more with Ronaldinho and Brazilian Ronaldo. Also, the players coming up now are being taught to play as robots. Herny, Zidane, Ronaldo9, etc. were players with their own style. The biggest problem are not that we are looking at stats, the problem is we are losing players with flair, elegance and character. That being said, recency-bias will, ironically, fix this...
Thierry Henry and Ronaldinho are by far my favorite living football legends, they are the reason I fell in love with football in the first place, they are part of my childhood... Henry should have won at least one or two ballon d'or in the 2003 and 2004 seasons, he was so unique and underrated back then, he was almost unstoppable and genuinely a very good all-rounder authentic player. ☯️👌✌️
@@DavidLucian for 90's people it is R9.. the brilliance he showed was alien-isque.. but now everyone compare him with Messi and CR7 with stats.. football was never about stat.. Maradona changed the football map for a country.. Pele created the superstart status in football.. R9 changed the definition of a striker.. it was never about stats..
@@thebengalurubong2047CR7 is the one who is defined by stats Messi is soo much more than stats n numbers fr anyone with a football brain. Messi is football when u see him play.
The genius of these 2 won't be replicated. They've made football look bland. What many considered world class before after after these guys is completely different.
@@doncarloancelotti2256 but they set the bar so high, every talented player that comes up now is compared to these two, and will most likely never live up to them
@@michaeltrumph121 What an imbecilic thing to write. Two guys who set standards that hadn't been seen before and standards that no one can match today. Salah is the best player on the planet right now, yet he is nowhere near Messi and CR7 at their peak. That is the level they set. When you pass puberty, you'll learn that.
Messi and Ronaldo are Millennials. The last younger generation that has old school values in them. GenZ just can’t compete and it’s not their fault. But as a millennial myself, I can only say one thing; Stay humble eh?!
Yea the same the thing was said about messi and ronaldo but the pele and maradona generation. Even from the place i live there was a saying that goes for 1000 messi theres 1 kaka. And look how the tables turned.
The thing is football today is more tactical and there is no scope for creativity. Everyone’s equally perfroming intense and i doubt if theres any scope for over performance
Messi and Ronaldo was just about stats messi and Ronaldo has flair each of them having 700+ dribbles while also putting up stats, halaand puts up stats but doesn’t have flair, vini has flair but doesn’t put up stats. But Christiano and messi did both ❤
Talk about neymar.. La remotada(psg comeback), 2014 ucl golden Boot, brazil's all time goal scorer and highest international assists maker in history.. 2021 copa America performance, 2020 ucl especially against bayern final(what a performance).
You forget to mention throphies, world cup, eurocup and they won champion league 9 times in 12 years of their prime. From 2006 to 2018. While winning all golden boots. The dominate football in every single metric like Eye test. Stats and throphies.
I think the main problem it's less about football today.. For many players it's almost more important to be big on social media than being great at football nowadays. Players have become a brand making millions in ads and such. back in the 90s-00s some players started to sell for ridiculously high amounts but the primary focus was still on football. Nowadays alot of ppl cheer for a player rather than a team.. we used to have legends on every position nowadays whole teams are often built around 1 diva. idk maybe im biased and nostalgic but I prefer football in the past.
@@NabirMohammed-l2u Not really there isn't much of individual brilliance in most teams except for maybe Madrid anymore but the teams, coaching and tactics overall are getting better and better.
The thing about Messi and Ronaldo is that they are simply in a class/league of their own. If I were to make a tier list from S to D they wouldn’t be in any of the tiers. They are outside of that. You could say that Maradona, R9, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Rooney, Ramos etc comes close to Messi and Ronaldo, but no. They might in skill, goal scoring, elegance, importance to a team. But they don’t come close in all the categories. Messi and Ronaldo had the most goals, most assist, most fun to watch, had the longest peaks, not only longest peaks but their peaks is the best ever, most fans, made most money for their clubs, had the whole team looking up to them. In comparison to Haaland for example when you watch Messi and Ronaldo you see how their skills as footballers lead to the goals and assist. Haaland has been fun to watch because it’s unprecedented to score on almost every chance you get. But he mostly stands in the box and finishes. In school football no one liked the guy that played like that. Messi and Ronaldo could get the ball in any part of the pitch and you would never know if they would create magic and score. Longevity, a peak that lasted 10-15 years, their numbers, importance, magic and how they are the faces of football shows how everyone else needs to be held to a different standard
@michaeltrumph121 bro, this is disrespectful, no offence but you can't compare messi and Ronaldo with any other player in football other than themselves.
You could blame social media for making football not being as enjoyable anymore. If social media wasn’t as widespread, we’d appreciate the new guard almost as much as we appreciate the the old guard of the 2000s
Their era also was set up by the Ronaldinho/Zidane/Rivaldo era, maybe the most beautiful of eras and it felt like Messi and Ronaldo were the wildly perfect culmination of what had come before. They were like what we had seen in part with the great Brazilian Ronaldo, but in an era when all the pitches were perfect and players weren’t kicked to the same degree, protected more by the game. And both played for one half of the greatest derby in football. It was just perfect.
Messi didn't only score goals... people are in awe because he is also the best playmaker we've ever seen providing the most assists, opening up the pitch, enabling others. You can't put messi in a box e.g. goal scorers like Ronaldo. Its like you combine the best qualities of Ronaldo, Cruyff and a bunch of others... and even then you are short of what Messi brings to the pitch.
Messi is the only player that has ever made me doubt my eyesight. Too many times, he does things that make zero sense as you watch. CR7 was great, too, but Messi will be impossible to replicate imo.
Scoring GOALS only cannot be the Sole ENJOYMENT,, it Should be Some stylish DRIBBLING,, Some Slow paced Pass with a Sudden ATTACK Or even a Build up Casually and then Make the OPPNENTS PANIC and Even PANIC the OPPOSITE FANS ___ !!!!
Nowadays players with 20+ goals a season feels like they had a good season But to Ronaldo and messi era it's a bad season 😅 Ronaldo worst season at real Madrid was 33goals like WTF... 33 is too much even vini will be happy to score such amount... But Ronaldo called it a bad season 😅 They came and made history for themselves and football will never remain the same ❤
Two different types of players. Vini isn't a goal scorer he's a winger Cr7 used to be a goal scoring winger, like Mbappe. I know Mbappe is bad this season but it's better not to compare vini to cr7
It just makes you wonder how lucky we are to be alive to watch these two game after game. Week after week. showing such masterclass and magical experences on the field. What a ride it has been.
I always have that conversation with my friends. Messi & Ronaldo spoiled us. Note that all of my friends and myself are 30, most of us started watching around 2004-05. We really watched them through most of our lives. Childhood, teenage and adulthood.
In the olden days our attention could only be captivated by what was available on TV, but today there are niche interests. A certain UA-cam content creator, a tiktok influencer or a video game could be enough to captivate you. People's attention is no longer subjected to one particular thing or whatever narrative the old media channels are pushing.
Maybe you’re slow or maybe just stupid but when you raise the standard too high it makes other players seem uninteresting to watch because they’re being held to an unattainable standard
How is it 'unatainanble' whenit has clearly been attained?? Why are so many of you so insistant of accepting average performance and not wanting to see greatness spring up and humanity follow after greatness?? Footballers MUST rise and stop being average. Messi and Ronaldo exposed that many footballers are just average and people are crying about that. Its like many of you fear those who perform in superhuman ways and you don't want to see what is beyond that which you know and have seen before.
That's not true at all, messi ain't about numbers at all, messi was just pure football the numbers was just the cherry on top he did everything so perfectly and elegantly people started expecting that performance from other players, not the scoring only
To think that goals were their only contributions to football, show me that you are leaving out their style of play, Messi's goals were only one part of the game. Ask Zidane, who mentioned a connection with Messi, knowing what he intended to do, Renaldo also turned into a more complete player as he got older. Do you think their teams asked them to slow down their goal scoring, I hear the pundits of the primere League talking about the many wonderful players playing in their leagues, they Messi and Ronaldo were something special, but now it's coming to an end, every sport has it's once in a lifetime talent, formula one, basketball tennis it happens then you have to move on until one day it happens again, enjoy your sport, anomalies happen in life everyday somewhere at someplace, just sit back and enjoy your favorite sports, because things change everyday, it will pass but talent goes on and on.
Also insane the way ronaldo dominated individually in top 3 leagues which is EPL, la liga and serie a, nobody else could do it like that, such players don't exist anymore
True. My dad has watched football since he was a child. He is 57 now. He said and I quote "Messi is gone, Football isn't enjoyable anymore". (I like Messi and Rono but that's what my dad said)
I am personally happy this era is coming to an end. I want new ballon d'ors every year, teams playing collectively, the focus being on more than just two players etc.. They were both absolutely amazing, but I am glad it is coming to an end.
I love watching Messi & Ronaldo (I am not Argentinian or Portuguese), and you hit the nail on the head, aside from the ones you mentioned Suarez, Ibrahimovic, Cavani all got overlooked, if they would have played 15-30 years earlier they would have all won the golden ball or shoe, and now, their shadows are so large, that all these and those players you mentioned did not and will never get the recognition they deserved. I hope you are right, and everyone (especially the press) “reset” our expectations, recognizing that Messi and Ronaldo are once in a lifetime players, we are not likely to ever see players achieve those numbers again in our lifetime (maybe ever) and expecting new players to do so, will only detract from appreciating the great new generational talent we have, and also impact our love/appreciation of the beautiful game. We should give credit and recognize that there are still generational anomalies today, yes, they will not reach the seemingly unreal heights of Messi & Ronaldo, but nevertheless, there are incredible talents that should be celebrated, in short, we need to learn how to appreciate once again, by lowering our inflated expectations.
I am so happy I was growing up with football stars like Messi and Ronaldo! They have been pulling up the entire fan society along with them. I really loved football back then. It was amazing to see so many great players and teams who have played different styles. As a football fan you could have found a true idol among them. The style and pace of playing was also completely different. Love their era!❤
We don't see stepovers all the fancy moves of ronaldo and we don't see the insane mind , game changer like messi anymore.. we're just waiting for there retirements ..after that football will be over
The fan bases of Cristiano and Messi. Especially the ones online, ruined it. Sure you can ignore it of course but it should never reach to the point you got to ignore an aspect of you something you used to care for in order for it to be at the very least, bearable. I'm sure me calling out both of the Messi and Cristiano fans will not get their little panties all in a bunch and bash this comment. Lol talking big online but if given the chance, they wouldn't say nothing in person.
I think this is simply what defines this era. Like you said, football was never about individual performance but so much more. However, we lived through a period defined by that because we had the 2 best individual players of all time playing at the same time and were consistently better than everyone and every team around them. Football will go back to how it was because there is no way we will see players like Messi or Ronaldo for a very long time and therefore teams and groups of players will stand out beyond just individuals. Its unfortunate that for the next few years players will be defined by what made those 2 great but isn't that to be expected? The world has celebrated their brilliance because it was truly incredible to watch, not just the numbers but their ability with a football was magnificent to see for 2 decades. I do miss seeing players stand out for their brilliance at certain parts of the game but theres a reason why Ronaldo and Messi are considered the goats and it isn't because of recency bias.
3:20 yes fans debate that Robert isn't on the same level of Messi or Ronaldo cuz he just isn't. Ask Robert about it and I guarantee you that his answer would be same. Nobody is doubting his greatness. He is a legend of the game. But Messi and Cristiano are all time greats
Social media is just a Messi Ronaldo propaganda machine. Not because they are overhyping them… it’s because they get implemented in every video/ short / conversation that has nothing to do with them at that moment. Like we’ve seen their goals and plays so many times it gotten so annoying. And then the players that are good for like a month the media overhypes them and then the next season the become irrelevant. It’s really annoying.
Not just Football, another example is Chess Magnus Carlsen is arguably the greatest player to ever live, he achieved a peak rating of 2882 twice (which is very similar to how they rank National teams), for reference everyone out of the 15 players that even reached 2800 dropped off eventually except Magnus, he remained 2800+ for like almost a decade and half now. He is a 17-time world champion across different time controls of chess (speed chess, slow chess...), he reminds me of Messi how he was good at literally everything. He set the bar so high that World Championship matches aren't even that high level anymore, and even young talents that are super insane exist behind the shadow of Magnus's greatness.
Also Tennis is kinda like this. The big 3 that came last 20 years. All of them broke so many records that it will take generations until somebody becomes better.
Football was never meant to be so utterly dominated by a player, let alone two in the same generation. Imagine being so good that after you leave, the sport feels bland simply because no one else can recreate the magic you once could
I believe this is a trend that is affecting various sports. It’s no longer enough to achieve success just once; athletes must continually win, consistently outperform their competition, and maintain excellence over time. We see this phenomenon in sports like football, NFL, basketball, Formula 1, golf, tennis, baseball, and the 100-meter sprint. Legendary athletes such as Messi and Ronaldo in football, Tom Brady in the NFL, LeBron James and Stephen Curry in basketball, Lewis Hamilton and Michael Schumacher in F1, Tiger Woods in golf, and the trio of Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic in tennis, along with Serena Williams and Usain Bolt, have not only excelled but have also set exceptionally high standards. This relentless pursuit of greatness seems to spoil fans, as they come to expect extraordinary performances consistently across these sports. The same principle applies to movies and any other area that has a dedicated fan base.
This upload is mind blowing opened our eyes deserves atleast a million views hope this becomes a global phenomenon and lives up to it's expectations like Ronaldo and messi not like halaand and mbappe! Thank you real football keep up the content❤👌
Actually Ronaldo fans spoiled everything. Their debate lies solely on goals. Imagine using goals to compare Vini and Rodri. Football is just a beautiful game but everything else must be centred around goals in their opinion. A player can be MVP without even stacking up goals and assists. But Ronaldo fans will call it rigged because it definitely must be goals and assists
The football world may move on from the Messi and Ronaldo comparisons, but expect players from their former clubs to always be measured against these two legends. Rival clubs, however, will never draw comparisons with them.
U get it all wrong, Messi is not just about numbers, Messi is football from an aesthetic view n how he just plays the game. Cr7 is the one who csn only be judged by his numbers coz there is literally nothing majical about him. He's just a great goal scorer n nothing more. Messi is more thsn just goals or numbers.
As a new football fan i definitely see this everywhere. When mbappe recently switched to real madrid everyone was expecting prime ronaldo numbers which obviously isn't possible. Everyone was calling hin a disappointment but for what?? He's playing mostly off his favorite position and he's getting used to a completly new team of course he isn't gonna preform amazing and even then he's doing really nicely considering the higher level of leagues he entered.
Ronaldo and Messi are having some healthy and constructive rivalry that drives them to do more and better, but they still have some respect to each other. We can't say the same about most of their toxic fans when it comes to respect. Yes, there are many fans who love one and respect another, but those toxic ones are as many as those respectful ones if not more.
I never watched football regularly. But even I, as someone who never had much interest in it, can understand that thought. In the last few months I started watching a few games and I must say I had fun, especially for example the Barcelona games. I don't know why but I like to see young players being creative and trying to develop their own identity on the pitch. But comparing them to, as you said, anomalies that won't be achieved in the next (I don't know) 20+ years is just ridiculous. So as a "new" fan of the sport I can only say I'm having fun, even though I probably missed the best time of football. But hey, as long as someone is having fun with the sport I don't care. But still an interesting video👍
I dont agree theyve ruined football. If you compare everybody to them and cant see other players as great than your not real fan of the game nor do you actually appreciate how crazy those two players were. Theres a bunch of things that are ruining the sport today, but to me the biggest is the overelance on statisics. too many teams play the same way, everybody tries to play out the back, and press high. Then in the last decade theirs been more emphaises in youth game worldwide on the athletic, more than actual skill on the ball. There little variance in player profiles right now and the talent as whole across the board at the very top is down. Even without messi and ronaldo the previous generation was so much more talented and skilled. You could put someone like a prime alexis sanchez in todays game, hed be the best player in yhe world right now. Back then he was boredline top 20. Bottom line games are just more robotic now than ever.
What most fans of both won’t understand is to have that much goals a season, most of the decisive balls have to get to you. That’s they scored so much tap ins. But there’s a lot of quality players today that can score in each team. You can’t receive all the balls anymore, neither can you score them all by yourself anymore.
People just look at the stats of players they dont look at the beautiful game, so many kids wanted vini to win the balon dor because of his flashy skills and "ok" stats. If you watch football you would see the impact that rodri has. Also your points on messi and ronaldo were spot on
It’s mostly on the fans, they can’t accept that Messi and Ronaldo were just absolute monsters. People see players on tv and it just seems so easy, “I could do that” pops into someone’s mind. No, you can’t. They are playing at a top level, they are great in their own right. Social media also plays a huge part, news and videos always want to say the next Messi, the next Ronaldo.no one is the next anyone else, it unjustly undermines the greatness of other players. Also, a lot of players play for money and fame and not the love of the sport.
Few years ago everyone loved Mbappe, now at least half fans violently criticize him when he doesn't play well. "But he never scored in CL semifinals, but he always played in Ligue 1, but he plays badly at Euros, but..." They can't appreciate his talent anymore, they are obsessed with what he missed. I would not be surprised if it happens the same with Yamal. Now everyone praise him, but I'm sure that with years passing, if he doesn't mantain every high expectation, it will happen the same thing
Because it was Neymar brilliance who used to provide with him assists.. He is flop at madrid because he always want genius like messi and ney to assist him.. Alone he is just a poacher
@@ShivanshJain-si6og I disagree at all, if you say this, It means you underrate what he did at Monaco and with France National team, especially at world cups
@@simonelongato6470 at world Cups? 2018 was so goated team with out him also they would have won wc, meanwhile Brazil depends on ney.. In2022 ngl he played well but we all know his final was only good (that too two penalties) and before 62nd minute bro was literally ghosting
Make a video on neymar...Talk about neymar.. La remotada(psg comeback), 2014 ucl golden Boot, brazil's all time goal scorer and highest international assists maker in history.. 2021 copa America performance, 2020 ucl especially against bayern final(what a performance).
I think you are right, but the problem is that it hasn’t only affected the viewers, it’s affected the players. The passion when somebody scores a goal is often not there unless it’s in the highest of stakes. As well as this, tactics have often shifted away from trying to display the beauty of football, and more towards tactics which prioritise efficiency. Players today are often discouraged to show flare because it might cost them a goal, and power and raw athleticism is favoured more.
Anyone puts Ronaldo in comparison with messi is delusional, sure Ronaldo is one of the greatest football scorers of all time but thats it thats all of his game but on the other hand messi is on top of everything, hes by far the best dribbler, the best free kick player the best score with man of the match the best scorer scoring more than 850 goals with less than 200 games than Ronaldo, 8 ballon dor, 6 golden shoes, 3 fifa the best and 46 world titles the top ever with greatest trophy the world cup. I can explain more and more about how messi is light years ahead of Ronaldo and everybody else so don’t just put Ronaldo in the conversation of the greatest of all time coz that title worthy of messi and messi alone.
Having speed, power, accuracy, being able to score with your right left and head is something Messi could only dream of, I'm not suggesting Ronaldo's better or anything but he's different from Messi and there won't be anyone like them again
You are a delusional Football fan So A Guy with the Most Assists in UCL, Euros and Nations league History Is only a Scorer A Guy with the Most Dribbles in a Single game is only A Scorer A Guy with the Most Chances Created in Euros History is only a Scorer Use your brain for once
I can also explain Why Ronaldo is miles better than Messi as a player He Won Back to Back Trophies and players of the Season in Different Leagues and teams He won Back to Back player of the season for Club and League in the 3 Biggest Leagues in Europe While Messi outside Barcelona was Getting Dominated by Young Mbappe Ronaldo won a UCL outside Real Madrid Messi won Zero UCL after Xavi and iniesta left Barcelona Ronaldo won 3 UCL in 3 years Messi won 3 UCL in 17 years Ronaldo has never used his Massive PR, Football Aesthetics and public image to Rob players of their Hard-earned Awards unlike Messi He prefer using his Work to Win Awards not his image Imagine winning 2 FIFA the best with one world cup 🤮🤮🤮 Aside Barcelona, FIFA, Robbing and Steroids Messi is absolutely nothing
Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Djokovic, Federer, Nadal, O'Sullivan, Lewis Hamilton and many more GOATS breaking records in their sports in the same decade is not a coincidence. It feels we've reached a peak in that decade.
*I don't like what football has become today. They have changed the look and feel of football. Great stadiums like Real Madrid's Bernabeu stadium have turned into indoor arenas. They play with the roof closed. What's cool about playing football with a roof? This is not indoor football. Football is an outdoor sport and is supposed to be played outdoors. Football stadiums are outdoor arenas. Now all new stadiums are now semi-indoor or fully indoor arenas. You want to play football out in the fresh air. You need maximum oxygen to perform.* Then there's VAR. Every contact is awarded a penalty. Football is a contact sport. Contact is allowed to happen and will happen. Anytime a player gets contact they go down on purpose or easily to get a penalty. They also wait for contact to be made or move their body towards the opponent to make contact on purpose. VAR don't even look to see if the player is going down on purpose, easily or trying to make contact on purpose. They make their decision based on replays in slow motion. Slow motion makes it look worse than it actually was. We don't live in a slow motion world. Reality is not in slow motion. They should make their final decision watching the replay back at normal speed after looking at the incident in slow motion. Most penalties should not be awarded because the players go down on purpose. It's already clear in slow motion and even more clear at normal speed. Normal speed shows the reality. Then there are other things like all new stadium the fans are further away from the pitch. The atmosphere was better when the fans are as close to the pitch as possible. Other strange rules like Yellow card for taking your shirt off. Yellow card for touching the fans to celebrate. Also the match balls have become inferior. Traditional 32 panel balls preformed the best. They go where you want them to go. It's not fair today's players are playing with balls that have weird panel shapes that perform less. That's why we had better football in the past and amazing stylish players with their own unique style like Ronaldinho, Zidane, Beckham, R9 etc. because they were using 32 panel balls. The look and feel of football has become worse.
No, because they did it at a critical time. This will always overshadow all generations. It's not their fault, it's ours. We had the power to vote and speak out and we didn't! Football then, Football then, why? Football should always be played as a sport, not as a business or a rivalry. Through social media, we expect from CR7 and Messi's unbeatable performance that the young players now at least maintain their records. But the young talents before the 2010 era were different. Their mentality was above everything, they suffered and went from cleaning to owning the streats and nowadays it's easier. For example, Antony, one of the worst Man Utd players, was a star in Ajax. Because of the pressure from the Man Utd fans he wanted to be like the young CR7. Hazard, Mané, Mbappe, Griezman, Neymar, Lewandowski etc. have been destroyed by their former superstar.
Tbh I was sure you were about to yap some nonsense at first but then I was surprised to hear a very interesting and important view of the sport today. Nice video!
Ronaldo and Messi are Epic Players Great Game changers and Goats of the Game I agree they have Raised the Standard so high that no one will ever Replicate it again That's because what they did is So Extraordinary Ronaldo known for His Strength, Skills, Speed, Height, Stelt, Power in the Air, Goals, Creativity and Quick Passes Messi Known his Dribbling, Quick Feet, Low Center of Gravity which makes him Glide pass Defenders easily, Skill, Speed, Playmaking, Goalscoring and Endurance They are indeed the Goats of Football
1. Most Footballers right now see Football as A Job from which to Earn Money, there's really no deep Passion and Love for the Game, so they just do the barest minimum to keep earning their Cheques. That's why Football is Plagued with Mentally Weak Players. 2.the Quality of Coaches have declined too, and Coaching plays an important role on how Players develop and are refined. Football is lacking Elite Coaches...asides Pep and Ancelotti, even Mourinho has declined, we don't have Uniquely Gifted Coaches in the Game anymore that offer an Elevated Perspective to how the Game is Played. 3.Its Life, everything has a Season, this Season of Mediocre Football will pass also and we'll enjoy better quality of Football as we did in the 2000's and 2010's.
As soon as coaches stop diminishing the upstarts and nuture them instead, cause coaches now lack the idea of being their own and rather copy what others have achieved with. Guardiola’s Tiki Taka soccer style is a virus everyone is obsessed with to use and thus why managers with their own styles are fading.
Football has become less enjoyable because the level of athleticism/pace has evolved so much. It's much harder for skilful/artistic players to play in today's game. They have less time on the ball and it's harder for them to keep up with the sheer pace of the modern game. Also, the sport has become much more tactical too. There's less freedom for individual expression. Players have to fit into a system and follow the manager/system's instructions at all times. In other words, having a team of athletic, fast and strong players who are coachable and fit into a system is very effective, but also very boring to watch. Football has lost much of its magic.
Im glad i had to see them play in my gemeration. I also got to witness legends like Ronaldinho, R9, kaka, zizou, henry, gerrard,xavi,iniesta, etc play.... Legendary players indeed!
Look man let's not get into this lol, we both know Ronaldo is a perfect blend of speed and power, we both also know Messi is technically much better, let's just appreciate em both!
Zidane,R9,Ronaldinho, Cruyff,Pele,Maradona and Pele are also much better.Please stop calling Cr7 a goat because he is not.Hardly anyone knowledgeable considers him to be the Goat.Foitball is more than just numbers.Cr7 is just a goalscorer,nothing more
can you imagine being something like a Sporting fan, a Atlético Madrid, United (after CR7), maybe a Roma fan….all some of the teams that haven’t won anything big….meanwhile there’s Real Madrid and Barcelona who dominated football for over 10-15 years….its like these two Ronaldo and Messi reallt never gave any other team and chance, how many amazing players never got to shine as much as they couldve because of what Ronaldo and Messi were doing in laliga and champions league😅 really think about it..being a Atleti or Sevilla fan and all you can do is sit and be forced to watch Messi and Ronaldo accomplishments wondering when or if you would ever get a fair chance to win something😅…atleast now football is in a rebuild era where you’re forced to support a TEAM instead of a player
It depends with what people get to talk about football. There are many genuine football fans that loves the game and acknowledges how good many current players. There are many fans that knows Ronaldo and Messi abilities are outstanding with numbers and what they were doing on the pitch. That’s why many of created a GOAT football category for them, which is steps over top class players.
Tiki taka ruined football it now has become a complete mechanical sport no longer are there chances for individuals to shine properly and shwo their skillset for example the brazillians all their dribbling and flamboyannce a memory of the pastits like basketball they found the perfect strategy hitting threes but it ruins the game for everyone same with football
the real reason why football isn't enjoyable is because big clubs, organizations and companies are exploiting players and fans. Awards are losing their credibility, players are being forced to play an absurd amount of games, the media have a constant bias on players that alters perception to the fans and much more. Blame the media and FIFA they're taking away the football we know and is trying to fix something does not need to be fixed.
There was a bunch of very good players from 90’s onwards but I have always said, football is not about statistics, it’s all about playmakers, joy to watch, spectacular performances, determination and leadership and yes like goal scoring machine like CR7 you won’t see very soon but the player who fits in all above said, clearly is Messi which we won’t see ever another one like him
Talk about numbers for Cristiano but Messi made the game more beautiful, his passes, dribbling vision and charisma on field makes joga bonito more beautiful
I think they have created this godlike image of what a player is supposed to look like that its hard to look past them and not compare others to them, but they are still playing, they are relics of the past but they are still active. Wait 4-5 yrs and new names will be coming up, i think michael jordan had the similar level of fame, i was a child(97 born) then and not even american but he was still known by many, but today we have a new batch of players that people say are equal to or even greater than Jordan, i think it would be the same with these football giants. players are forgotten, people dont care about who was the greatest in the past, all that matters is who's the best now
Messi has had a peak that's well beyond what anyone can do we need to stop trying to bring him down to our level we can compare the ronaldonhos the ronaldos the peles and maradonas but if we try to bring Messi down to a human level that's delusional Messi is a once in an all time existence it was an anomaly.
I ain't gonna lie, after watching Messi and Ronaldo I expected to see similar talents every season. Last year it was Haaland, now it's Palmer. And for some time I expected Mbappe to be that. But.. .
Someone needs to put those two in one team . At least for a charity match. We want to see them together for the first and last time .
So true!! This is literally every football fan's wish
I'd never watch football again if that happens (which never happens)
The entire world would collapse if these two were in the same team 😂
I think it's too late for that now
@@Trauma_Clownwhy?
They are too good that even in 100 years people will still say these players are not good enough like Ronaldo and Messi
Best part is..we witnessed it fully ...the future has the full proof to agree to it.
Nope.
In 100 years people will say they are the biggest bums
There will be players in 100 years who are either the same level or better
@@michaeltrumph121true like how kids disrespect Pele nowadays
@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh
Exactly
Football has changed not just because of messi and Ronaldo but we don't have players like before, xavi iniesta busquets ramos Rooney Özil Ronaldinho carlos etc... players like these also played a big role in Ronaldo and Messi's careers
Yes, nowadays the game has become too tactical, no one is allowed to be creative
I also miss players like Zidane and Raul. Truly graceful and skillfull.
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Blame Pep and his clones.
@@gaara4667
The same coach for whom plays or played Bernando Silva, Jeremy Doku, Riyad Mahrez, David Silva, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Dani Alves, etc...
Yeah it’s not just because of Messi and Ronaldo. We long for players like Sanchez, hazard, Neymar who showed authenticity and electricity on the pitch that doesn’t exist anymore. I agree that pepball has mostly killed the childlike joy in modern football
Social media destroyed football
So true, all this propaganda has really shifted the way we see football
speak for yourself
@furrycheetah social media has destroyed a lot, it destroyed people talking to each other face to face and allowed some people to say things to others that they would never have the spine to say to their face
How social media influence the mind of real fans of football??
@jangthapa5482 by not knowing which one is right and which one is wrong
The problem is no passion for the game, too many players are divas, and social media
haha cryniscius
I personally miss the pre-Messi and Ronaldo era during the 90's and early 2000's when almost every team was full of superstar players wether be it the Premier League, La Liga or Serie A and was not just revolving on a few like Ronaldo and Messi for fame and publicity of the game.
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I s it that there weremt great players in other competions or it's just that they were just too good [Messi and Ronaldo]
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Messi And Ronaldo era is the best era of all time , pre Messi And Ronaldo era is the second best . This era doesn’t have the same hype And emotions as before
The players in the 2010's especially those who played in Real Madrid and Barcelona alongside Messi and Ronaldo were the greatest to ever play the game.
How do you become so good that that you make todays talents look like mediocre players 😭 Messi and Ronaldo are truly generational master classes 🙏
Wonderful video by the way🔥🔥
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These two just completely dwarf a lot of legendary things in football.
Take 2014 for example. That world cup is mainly remembered because of the 7-1. But anyone who watched the 2014 final may remember Bastian Schweinsteiger‘s performance. The dude had multiple fouls and even a bleeding wound and still pushed his German team like an absolute boss til the very end. And he wasn‘t even the captain. It was the best performance I have ever seen in a world cup final. And in Germany, people still talk about it today. But outside of Germany, it is not remembered. Because Messi was on the pitch during that game. Ever since Argentina won in 2022, things like Schweinsteiger‘s performance are even more forgotten. And that is plain insulting…
Talk about neymar.. La remotada(psg comeback), 2014 ucl golden Boot, brazil's all time goal scorer and highest international assists maker in history.. 2021 copa America performance, 2020 ucl especially against bayern final(what a performance).
I enjoyed football more with Ronaldinho and Brazilian Ronaldo. Also, the players coming up now are being taught to play as robots. Herny, Zidane, Ronaldo9, etc. were players with their own style. The biggest problem are not that we are looking at stats, the problem is we are losing players with flair, elegance and character.
That being said, recency-bias will, ironically, fix this...
Problem is, it's becoming TOO tactical, like you said, players are like robots now, no one's allowed to be creative
Thierry Henry and Ronaldinho are by far my favorite living football legends, they are the reason I fell in love with football in the first place, they are part of my childhood... Henry should have won at least one or two ballon d'or in the 2003 and 2004 seasons, he was so unique and underrated back then, he was almost unstoppable and genuinely a very good all-rounder authentic player. ☯️👌✌️
@@DavidLucian for 90's people it is R9.. the brilliance he showed was alien-isque.. but now everyone compare him with Messi and CR7 with stats.. football was never about stat.. Maradona changed the football map for a country.. Pele created the superstart status in football.. R9 changed the definition of a striker.. it was never about stats..
@@thebengalurubong2047CR7 is the one who is defined by stats Messi is soo much more than stats n numbers fr anyone with a football brain. Messi is football when u see him play.
@ CR7 was also very very good in MU.. for me it's R9 because what I wachted in 97-98 has been implanted in my head..
The genius of these 2 won't be replicated. They've made football look bland. What many considered world class before after after these guys is completely different.
They're both overrated
World class remains world class before these two and after these two. Do not ever forget that.
@@doncarloancelotti2256then why are they still lacking what those two does
@@doncarloancelotti2256 but they set the bar so high, every talented player that comes up now is compared to these two, and will most likely never live up to them
@@michaeltrumph121 What an imbecilic thing to write. Two guys who set standards that hadn't been seen before and standards that no one can match today. Salah is the best player on the planet right now, yet he is nowhere near Messi and CR7 at their peak. That is the level they set. When you pass puberty, you'll learn that.
I like how Messi and Ronaldo are a partnership in this video rather than fans arguing who is better. It’s a nice change of pace
I think we've had enough of comparing them 😀
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Messi and Ronaldo are Millennials. The last younger generation that has old school values in them. GenZ just can’t compete and it’s not their fault. But as a millennial myself, I can only say one thing; Stay humble eh?!
Stay humble 😭
Yea the same the thing was said about messi and ronaldo but the pele and maradona generation. Even from the place i live there was a saying that goes for 1000 messi theres 1 kaka. And look how the tables turned.
The thing is football today is more tactical and there is no scope for creativity. Everyone’s equally perfroming intense and i doubt if theres any scope for over performance
Messi and Ronaldo was just about stats messi and Ronaldo has flair each of them having 700+ dribbles while also putting up stats, halaand puts up stats but doesn’t have flair, vini has flair but doesn’t put up stats. But Christiano and messi did both ❤
Neymar also did both.. But people don't know.. Bro has 750 g/a while messi has 1100 something.. Neymar is young too
Talk about neymar.. La remotada(psg comeback), 2014 ucl golden Boot, brazil's all time goal scorer and highest international assists maker in history.. 2021 copa America performance, 2020 ucl especially against bayern final(what a performance).
you said it the best way possible
You forget to mention throphies, world cup, eurocup and they won champion league 9 times in 12 years of their prime. From 2006 to 2018. While winning all golden boots. The dominate football in every single metric like Eye test. Stats and throphies.
I think the main problem it's less about football today.. For many players it's almost more important to be big on social media than being great at football nowadays.
Players have become a brand making millions in ads and such.
back in the 90s-00s some players started to sell for ridiculously high amounts but the primary focus was still on football.
Nowadays alot of ppl cheer for a player rather than a team..
we used to have legends on every position nowadays whole teams are often built around 1 diva.
idk maybe im biased and nostalgic but I prefer football in the past.
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Thats why i stoped watching these football, every season, man utd get new players while we were getting to know the others
No one will top what these two did.
Also many players, this era don't have the players as ronaldo Messi's era players. 83%of them are retired. And matches nowadays are boring honestly
But what messi did is impossible
@@NabirMohammed-l2u Not really there isn't much of individual brilliance in most teams except for maybe Madrid anymore but the teams, coaching and tactics overall are getting better and better.
Or what Sean Faris did haha siuuuuu
true no one will top player like messi
The thing about Messi and Ronaldo is that they are simply in a class/league of their own. If I were to make a tier list from S to D they wouldn’t be in any of the tiers. They are outside of that. You could say that Maradona, R9, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Rooney, Ramos etc comes close to Messi and Ronaldo, but no. They might in skill, goal scoring, elegance, importance to a team. But they don’t come close in all the categories. Messi and Ronaldo had the most goals, most assist, most fun to watch, had the longest peaks, not only longest peaks but their peaks is the best ever, most fans, made most money for their clubs, had the whole team looking up to them. In comparison to Haaland for example when you watch Messi and Ronaldo you see how their skills as footballers lead to the goals and assist. Haaland has been fun to watch because it’s unprecedented to score on almost every chance you get. But he mostly stands in the box and finishes. In school football no one liked the guy that played like that. Messi and Ronaldo could get the ball in any part of the pitch and you would never know if they would create magic and score.
Longevity, a peak that lasted 10-15 years, their numbers, importance, magic and how they are the faces of football shows how everyone else needs to be held to a different standard
Pele and Maradona are far superior to Messi and Cristiano
the reason why messi and ronaldo shined is because 2010's was weak compared to 2000's.
Maradona and Zidane and R9 and Ronaldinho are in a class of their own
@michaeltrumph121 bro, this is disrespectful, no offence but you can't compare messi and Ronaldo with any other player in football other than themselves.
@@ennyibrahim8570
They're the most overrated players ever
You could blame social media for making football not being as enjoyable anymore. If social media wasn’t as widespread, we’d appreciate the new guard almost as much as we appreciate the the old guard of the 2000s
This is not about Social Media...anyone with a proper Football Eye knows that this Quality of Footballing Talents and Quality of Games have declined
True, a player like Vini in prime Messi and Ronaldo times would not even be in top 20
Yea the social media focused only on showing the best clips and made people think thats the real football. They forgot football had the classic pace.
Their era also was set up by the Ronaldinho/Zidane/Rivaldo era, maybe the most beautiful of eras and it felt like Messi and Ronaldo were the wildly perfect culmination of what had come before.
They were like what we had seen in part with the great Brazilian Ronaldo, but in an era when all the pitches were perfect and players weren’t kicked to the same degree, protected more by the game. And both played for one half of the greatest derby in football. It was just perfect.
It was Maradona and Pele. Now it's Messi and Ronaldo.
Messi didn't only score goals... people are in awe because he is also the best playmaker we've ever seen providing the most assists, opening up the pitch, enabling others. You can't put messi in a box e.g. goal scorers like Ronaldo. Its like you combine the best qualities of Ronaldo, Cruyff and a bunch of others... and even then you are short of what Messi brings to the pitch.
Messi is the only player that has ever made me doubt my eyesight. Too many times, he does things that make zero sense as you watch. CR7 was great, too, but Messi will be impossible to replicate imo.
Near impossible.
I still enjoy football. Even a simple pass. Just seeing the ball get passed around makes me happy
You're just like me fr
Scoring GOALS only cannot be the Sole ENJOYMENT,, it Should be Some stylish DRIBBLING,, Some Slow paced Pass with a Sudden ATTACK Or even a Build up Casually and then Make the OPPNENTS PANIC and Even PANIC the OPPOSITE FANS ___ !!!!
Nowadays players with 20+ goals a season feels like they had a good season
But to Ronaldo and messi era it's a bad season 😅
Ronaldo worst season at real Madrid was 33goals like WTF... 33 is too much even vini will be happy to score such amount... But Ronaldo called it a bad season 😅
They came and made history for themselves and football will never remain the same ❤
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Two different types of players. Vini isn't a goal scorer he's a winger Cr7 used to be a goal scoring winger, like Mbappe. I know Mbappe is bad this season but it's better not to compare vini to cr7
Their greatness was never the standard. It was the exception.
Indeed
It just makes you wonder how lucky we are to be alive to watch these two game after game. Week after week. showing such masterclass and magical experences on the field. What a ride it has been.
I always have that conversation with my friends. Messi & Ronaldo spoiled us. Note that all of my friends and myself are 30, most of us started watching around 2004-05. We really watched them through most of our lives. Childhood, teenage and adulthood.
In the olden days our attention could only be captivated by what was available on TV, but today there are niche interests. A certain UA-cam content creator, a tiktok influencer or a video game could be enough to captivate you. People's attention is no longer subjected to one particular thing or whatever narrative the old media channels are pushing.
I feel like nowadays I hear more about a players G/A stats than I do about their quality on the field
Cuz game has become more robotic. Theres only a few beautiful moves and its all about the stats and goals
They did not spoil football, they raised its standard.
Same thing no? They spoiled us
exactly. its not their fault the new players want to have their cake and eat it too.
Maybe you’re slow or maybe just stupid but when you raise the standard too high it makes other players seem uninteresting to watch because they’re being held to an unattainable standard
How is it 'unatainanble' whenit has clearly been attained?? Why are so many of you so insistant of accepting average performance and not wanting to see greatness spring up and humanity follow after greatness?? Footballers MUST rise and stop being average. Messi and Ronaldo exposed that many footballers are just average and people are crying about that. Its like many of you fear those who perform in superhuman ways and you don't want to see what is beyond that which you know and have seen before.
@@kingsolomon_fitness Oh WORD!?
That's not true at all, messi ain't about numbers at all, messi was just pure football the numbers was just the cherry on top he did everything so perfectly and elegantly people started expecting that performance from other players, not the scoring only
It was their rivalry that made them truly unforgettable. There isn't anything else like it.
They both became the face of football. Maybe in the coming decade we see another goat
Really big task for this upcoming "GOAT"
Great Video everything is true no one ever will come close to these 2
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To think that goals were their only contributions to football, show me that you are leaving out their style of play, Messi's goals were only one part of the game. Ask Zidane, who mentioned a connection with Messi, knowing what he intended to do, Renaldo also turned into a more complete player as he got older. Do you think their teams asked them to slow down their goal scoring, I hear the pundits of the primere League talking about the many wonderful players playing in their leagues, they Messi and Ronaldo were something special, but now it's coming to an end, every sport has it's once in a lifetime talent, formula one, basketball tennis it happens then you have to move on until one day it happens again, enjoy your sport, anomalies happen in life everyday somewhere at someplace, just sit back and enjoy your favorite sports, because things change everyday, it will pass but talent goes on and on.
Damn.
Also insane the way ronaldo dominated individually in top 3 leagues which is EPL, la liga and serie a, nobody else could do it like that, such players don't exist anymore
Football is only enjoyable when people are themselves playing the game at their local park, instead of just watching the game on TV or Internet.
True. My dad has watched football since he was a child. He is 57 now. He said and I quote "Messi is gone, Football isn't enjoyable anymore".
(I like Messi and Rono but that's what my dad said)
Damn I took the words right out of his mouth 😅
I am personally happy this era is coming to an end.
I want new ballon d'ors every year, teams playing collectively, the focus being on more than just two players etc..
They were both absolutely amazing, but I am glad it is coming to an end.
I love watching Messi & Ronaldo (I am not Argentinian or Portuguese), and you hit the nail on the head, aside from the ones you mentioned Suarez, Ibrahimovic, Cavani all got overlooked, if they would have played 15-30 years earlier they would have all won the golden ball or shoe, and now, their shadows are so large, that all these and those players you mentioned did not and will never get the recognition they deserved. I hope you are right, and everyone (especially the press) “reset” our expectations, recognizing that Messi and Ronaldo are once in a lifetime players, we are not likely to ever see players achieve those numbers again in our lifetime (maybe ever) and expecting new players to do so, will only detract from appreciating the great new generational talent we have, and also impact our love/appreciation of the beautiful game. We should give credit and recognize that there are still generational anomalies today, yes, they will not reach the seemingly unreal heights of Messi & Ronaldo, but nevertheless, there are incredible talents that should be celebrated, in short, we need to learn how to appreciate once again, by lowering our inflated expectations.
I am so happy I was growing up with football stars like Messi and Ronaldo! They have been pulling up the entire fan society along with them. I really loved football back then. It was amazing to see so many great players and teams who have played different styles. As a football fan you could have found a true idol among them. The style and pace of playing was also completely different. Love their era!❤
I never loved watching Messi because of his stats. It was just magic
We don't see stepovers all the fancy moves of ronaldo and we don't see the insane mind , game changer like messi anymore.. we're just waiting for there retirements ..after that football will be over
Those two were having 40+ goals in league games alone, and still losing the golden boot to the other. Unreal.
2:47 Start watching Messi and it will show you what elegance actually is
The beauty of simple yet the most artistic football
The fan bases of Cristiano and Messi. Especially the ones online, ruined it. Sure you can ignore it of course but it should never reach to the point you got to ignore an aspect of you something you used to care for in order for it to be at the very least, bearable. I'm sure me calling out both of the Messi and Cristiano fans will not get their little panties all in a bunch and bash this comment. Lol talking big online but if given the chance, they wouldn't say nothing in person.
No one should ever be compared to either of the goats, or held up to their standards
So true!
Rubbish. Maradona, Pele and Cruyff,Zidane,R9,R10,Romario
I think this is simply what defines this era. Like you said, football was never about individual performance but so much more. However, we lived through a period defined by that because we had the 2 best individual players of all time playing at the same time and were consistently better than everyone and every team around them. Football will go back to how it was because there is no way we will see players like Messi or Ronaldo for a very long time and therefore teams and groups of players will stand out beyond just individuals. Its unfortunate that for the next few years players will be defined by what made those 2 great but isn't that to be expected? The world has celebrated their brilliance because it was truly incredible to watch, not just the numbers but their ability with a football was magnificent to see for 2 decades. I do miss seeing players stand out for their brilliance at certain parts of the game but theres a reason why Ronaldo and Messi are considered the goats and it isn't because of recency bias.
3:20 yes fans debate that Robert isn't on the same level of Messi or Ronaldo cuz he just isn't. Ask Robert about it and I guarantee you that his answer would be same.
Nobody is doubting his greatness. He is a legend of the game. But Messi and Cristiano are all time greats
peps tiki taka was the start of oppressive tactics
Social media is just a Messi Ronaldo propaganda machine. Not because they are overhyping them… it’s because they get implemented in every video/ short / conversation that has nothing to do with them at that moment. Like we’ve seen their goals and plays so many times it gotten so annoying. And then the players that are good for like a month the media overhypes them and then the next season the become irrelevant. It’s really annoying.
whos "we" that find annoying?
Not just Football, another example is Chess
Magnus Carlsen is arguably the greatest player to ever live, he achieved a peak rating of 2882 twice (which is very similar to how they rank National teams), for reference everyone out of the 15 players that even reached 2800 dropped off eventually except Magnus, he remained 2800+ for like almost a decade and half now.
He is a 17-time world champion across different time controls of chess (speed chess, slow chess...), he reminds me of Messi how he was good at literally everything.
He set the bar so high that World Championship matches aren't even that high level anymore, and even young talents that are super insane exist behind the shadow of Magnus's greatness.
Great reference!
Also Tennis is kinda like this. The big 3 that came last 20 years. All of them broke so many records that it will take generations until somebody becomes better.
Football was never meant to be so utterly dominated by a player, let alone two in the same generation. Imagine being so good that after you leave, the sport feels bland simply because no one else can recreate the magic you once could
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beautiful video!!!
Sums up my entire thought!! I'm glad to have witnessed these two dominate the sport!!
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I believe this is a trend that is affecting various sports. It’s no longer enough to achieve success just once; athletes must continually win, consistently outperform their competition, and maintain excellence over time. We see this phenomenon in sports like football, NFL, basketball, Formula 1, golf, tennis, baseball, and the 100-meter sprint. Legendary athletes such as Messi and Ronaldo in football, Tom Brady in the NFL, LeBron James and Stephen Curry in basketball, Lewis Hamilton and Michael Schumacher in F1, Tiger Woods in golf, and the trio of Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic in tennis, along with Serena Williams and Usain Bolt, have not only excelled but have also set exceptionally high standards. This relentless pursuit of greatness seems to spoil fans, as they come to expect extraordinary performances consistently across these sports. The same principle applies to movies and any other area that has a dedicated fan base.
This upload is mind blowing opened our eyes deserves atleast a million views hope this becomes a global phenomenon and lives up to it's expectations like Ronaldo and messi not like halaand and mbappe! Thank you real football keep up the content❤👌
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Actually Ronaldo fans spoiled everything.
Their debate lies solely on goals.
Imagine using goals to compare Vini and Rodri.
Football is just a beautiful game but everything else must be centred around goals in their opinion.
A player can be MVP without even stacking up goals and assists.
But Ronaldo fans will call it rigged because it definitely must be goals and assists
True
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Brilliant analysis bro ❤
The football world may move on from the Messi and Ronaldo comparisons, but expect players from their former clubs to always be measured against these two legends. Rival clubs, however, will never draw comparisons with them.
U get it all wrong, Messi is not just about numbers, Messi is football from an aesthetic view n how he just plays the game. Cr7 is the one who csn only be judged by his numbers coz there is literally nothing majical about him. He's just a great goal scorer n nothing more. Messi is more thsn just goals or numbers.
Sure bro
@@real.footballhdIt's the truth
As a new football fan i definitely see this everywhere. When mbappe recently switched to real madrid everyone was expecting prime ronaldo numbers which obviously isn't possible. Everyone was calling hin a disappointment but for what?? He's playing mostly off his favorite position and he's getting used to a completly new team of course he isn't gonna preform amazing and even then he's doing really nicely considering the higher level of leagues he entered.
Exactly the point! Standards are at an all time high!
Team synergy chemistry will always beat individual brilliance
Ronaldo and Messi are having some healthy and constructive rivalry that drives them to do more and better, but they still have some respect to each other.
We can't say the same about most of their toxic fans when it comes to respect. Yes, there are many fans who love one and respect another, but those toxic ones are as many as those respectful ones if not more.
I never watched football regularly. But even I, as someone who never had much interest in it, can understand that thought. In the last few months I started watching a few games and I must say I had fun, especially for example the Barcelona games. I don't know why but I like to see young players being creative and trying to develop their own identity on the pitch. But comparing them to, as you said, anomalies that won't be achieved in the next (I don't know) 20+ years is just ridiculous. So as a "new" fan of the sport I can only say I'm having fun, even though I probably missed the best time of football. But hey, as long as someone is having fun with the sport I don't care. But still an interesting video👍
Thank you for your take! Let's hope football reaches newer heights for the better.
Modern tactics made football worse imo. Teams are scared to lose the ball and there is much less dribbling.
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I dont agree theyve ruined football. If you compare everybody to them and cant see other players as great than your not real fan of the game nor do you actually appreciate how crazy those two players were. Theres a bunch of things that are ruining the sport today, but to me the biggest is the overelance on statisics. too many teams play the same way, everybody tries to play out the back, and press high. Then in the last decade theirs been more emphaises in youth game worldwide on the athletic, more than actual skill on the ball. There little variance in player profiles right now and the talent as whole across the board at the very top is down. Even without messi and ronaldo the previous generation was so much more talented and skilled. You could put someone like a prime alexis sanchez in todays game, hed be the best player in yhe world right now. Back then he was boredline top 20. Bottom line games are just more robotic now than ever.
Very true mate! Thanks for your take!
What most fans of both won’t understand is to have that much goals a season, most of the decisive balls have to get to you. That’s they scored so much tap ins. But there’s a lot of quality players today that can score in each team. You can’t receive all the balls anymore, neither can you score them all by yourself anymore.
People just look at the stats of players they dont look at the beautiful game, so many kids wanted vini to win the balon dor because of his flashy skills and "ok" stats. If you watch football you would see the impact that rodri has. Also your points on messi and ronaldo were spot on
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It’s mostly on the fans, they can’t accept that Messi and Ronaldo were just absolute monsters. People see players on tv and it just seems so easy, “I could do that” pops into someone’s mind. No, you can’t. They are playing at a top level, they are great in their own right. Social media also plays a huge part, news and videos always want to say the next Messi, the next Ronaldo.no one is the next anyone else, it unjustly undermines the greatness of other players. Also, a lot of players play for money and fame and not the love of the sport.
Few years ago everyone loved Mbappe, now at least half fans violently criticize him when he doesn't play well. "But he never scored in CL semifinals, but he always played in Ligue 1, but he plays badly at Euros, but..." They can't appreciate his talent anymore, they are obsessed with what he missed. I would not be surprised if it happens the same with Yamal. Now everyone praise him, but I'm sure that with years passing, if he doesn't mantain every high expectation, it will happen the same thing
Because it was Neymar brilliance who used to provide with him assists.. He is flop at madrid because he always want genius like messi and ney to assist him.. Alone he is just a poacher
Start respecting ney until he is gone
@@ShivanshJain-si6og I disagree at all, if you say this, It means you underrate what he did at Monaco and with France National team, especially at world cups
@@simonelongato6470 at world Cups? 2018 was so goated team with out him also they would have won wc, meanwhile Brazil depends on ney.. In2022 ngl he played well but we all know his final was only good (that too two penalties) and before 62nd minute bro was literally ghosting
Make a video on neymar...Talk about neymar.. La remotada(psg comeback), 2014 ucl golden Boot, brazil's all time goal scorer and highest international assists maker in history.. 2021 copa America performance, 2020 ucl especially against bayern final(what a performance).
Good idea! Will do that soon, although I have a different video planned right now!
@@real.footballhd ohk but soon make one on him too
@@real.footballhd Neymar is one of the most unappreciated players ever
91 goals in calendar year is insane😅
I think you are right, but the problem is that it hasn’t only affected the viewers, it’s affected the players. The passion when somebody scores a goal is often not there unless it’s in the highest of stakes. As well as this, tactics have often shifted away from trying to display the beauty of football, and more towards tactics which prioritise efficiency. Players today are often discouraged to show flare because it might cost them a goal, and power and raw athleticism is favoured more.
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Anyone puts Ronaldo in comparison with messi is delusional, sure Ronaldo is one of the greatest football scorers of all time but thats it thats all of his game but on the other hand messi is on top of everything, hes by far the best dribbler, the best free kick player the best score with man of the match the best scorer scoring more than 850 goals with less than 200 games than Ronaldo, 8 ballon dor, 6 golden shoes, 3 fifa the best and 46 world titles the top ever with greatest trophy the world cup.
I can explain more and more about how messi is light years ahead of Ronaldo and everybody else so don’t just put Ronaldo in the conversation of the greatest of all time coz that title worthy of messi and messi alone.
Having speed, power, accuracy, being able to score with your right left and head is something Messi could only dream of, I'm not suggesting Ronaldo's better or anything but he's different from Messi and there won't be anyone like them again
You are a delusional Football fan
So A Guy with the Most Assists in UCL, Euros and Nations league History Is only a Scorer
A Guy with the Most Dribbles in a Single game is only A Scorer
A Guy with the Most Chances Created in Euros History is only a Scorer
Use your brain for once
I can also explain Why Ronaldo is miles better than Messi as a player
He Won Back to Back Trophies and players of the Season in Different Leagues and teams
He won Back to Back player of the season for Club and League in the 3 Biggest Leagues in Europe
While Messi outside Barcelona was Getting Dominated by Young Mbappe
Ronaldo won a UCL outside Real Madrid
Messi won Zero UCL after Xavi and iniesta left Barcelona
Ronaldo won 3 UCL in 3 years
Messi won 3 UCL in 17 years
Ronaldo has never used his Massive PR, Football Aesthetics and public image to Rob players of their Hard-earned Awards unlike Messi
He prefer using his Work to Win Awards not his image
Imagine winning 2 FIFA the best with one world cup
🤮🤮🤮
Aside Barcelona, FIFA, Robbing and Steroids
Messi is absolutely nothing
@ what a joke of person u r 😂 it would be a disgrace to my brain cells even to reply to u.
Well hey it's two different perspectives, both are correct in their own way
I would give anything to watch el clasico again with Messi and Ronaldo. Now we got Mbappe and Yamal...
Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Djokovic, Federer, Nadal, O'Sullivan, Lewis Hamilton and many more GOATS breaking records in their sports in the same decade is not a coincidence. It feels we've reached a peak in that decade.
It's gonna be a Herculean task to replicate what these phenomenons did.
*I don't like what football has become today. They have changed the look and feel of football. Great stadiums like Real Madrid's Bernabeu stadium have turned into indoor arenas. They play with the roof closed. What's cool about playing football with a roof? This is not indoor football. Football is an outdoor sport and is supposed to be played outdoors. Football stadiums are outdoor arenas. Now all new stadiums are now semi-indoor or fully indoor arenas. You want to play football out in the fresh air. You need maximum oxygen to perform.*
Then there's VAR. Every contact is awarded a penalty. Football is a contact sport. Contact is allowed to happen and will happen. Anytime a player gets contact they go down on purpose or easily to get a penalty. They also wait for contact to be made or move their body towards the opponent to make contact on purpose. VAR don't even look to see if the player is going down on purpose, easily or trying to make contact on purpose. They make their decision based on replays in slow motion. Slow motion makes it look worse than it actually was. We don't live in a slow motion world. Reality is not in slow motion. They should make their final decision watching the replay back at normal speed after looking at the incident in slow motion. Most penalties should not be awarded because the players go down on purpose. It's already clear in slow motion and even more clear at normal speed. Normal speed shows the reality.
Then there are other things like all new stadium the fans are further away from the pitch. The atmosphere was better when the fans are as close to the pitch as possible.
Other strange rules like Yellow card for taking your shirt off. Yellow card for touching the fans to celebrate.
Also the match balls have become inferior. Traditional 32 panel balls preformed the best. They go where you want them to go. It's not fair today's players are playing with balls that have weird panel shapes that perform less.
That's why we had better football in the past and amazing stylish players with their own unique style like Ronaldinho, Zidane, Beckham, R9 etc. because they were using 32 panel balls.
The look and feel of football has become worse.
Great explanation mate. Couldn't have said it better myself!
No, because they did it at a critical time. This will always overshadow all generations. It's not their fault, it's ours. We had the power to vote and speak out and we didn't! Football then, Football then, why? Football should always be played as a sport, not as a business or a rivalry. Through social media, we expect from CR7 and Messi's unbeatable performance that the young players now at least maintain their records. But the young talents before the 2010 era were different. Their mentality was above everything, they suffered and went from cleaning to owning the streats and nowadays it's easier. For example, Antony, one of the worst Man Utd players, was a star in Ajax. Because of the pressure from the Man Utd fans he wanted to be like the young CR7. Hazard, Mané, Mbappe, Griezman, Neymar, Lewandowski etc. have been destroyed by their former superstar.
Tbh I was sure you were about to yap some nonsense at first but then I was surprised to hear a very interesting and important view of the sport today. Nice video!
Lol thanks man 😂
this is what I was telling my dad. Messi and Ronaldo were everything that made football enjoyable.
Messi is G.O.A.T
Ronaldo and Messi are Epic Players
Great Game changers and Goats of the Game
I agree they have Raised the Standard so high that no one will ever Replicate it again
That's because what they did is So Extraordinary
Ronaldo known for His Strength, Skills, Speed, Height, Stelt, Power in the Air, Goals, Creativity and Quick Passes
Messi Known his Dribbling, Quick Feet, Low Center of Gravity which makes him Glide pass Defenders easily, Skill, Speed, Playmaking, Goalscoring and Endurance
They are indeed the Goats of Football
Modern football isn't about numbers in the fans' eyes. It's less enjoyable because its system-oriented nature has killed individual flare.
1. Most Footballers right now see Football as A Job from which to Earn Money, there's really no deep Passion and Love for the Game, so they just do the barest minimum to keep earning their Cheques.
That's why Football is Plagued with Mentally Weak Players.
2.the Quality of Coaches have declined too, and Coaching plays an important role on how Players develop and are refined. Football is lacking Elite Coaches...asides Pep and Ancelotti, even Mourinho has declined, we don't have Uniquely Gifted Coaches in the Game anymore that offer an Elevated Perspective to how the Game is Played.
3.Its Life, everything has a Season, this Season of Mediocre Football will pass also and we'll enjoy better quality of Football as we did in the 2000's and 2010's.
Great assessment mate!
As soon as coaches stop diminishing the upstarts and nuture them instead, cause coaches now lack the idea of being their own and rather copy what others have achieved with. Guardiola’s Tiki Taka soccer style is a virus everyone is obsessed with to use and thus why managers with their own styles are fading.
Football has become less enjoyable because the level of athleticism/pace has evolved so much. It's much harder for skilful/artistic players to play in today's game. They have less time on the ball and it's harder for them to keep up with the sheer pace of the modern game. Also, the sport has become much more tactical too. There's less freedom for individual expression. Players have to fit into a system and follow the manager/system's instructions at all times. In other words, having a team of athletic, fast and strong players who are coachable and fit into a system is very effective, but also very boring to watch. Football has lost much of its magic.
Im glad i had to see them play in my gemeration. I also got to witness legends like Ronaldinho, R9, kaka, zizou, henry, gerrard,xavi,iniesta, etc play.... Legendary players indeed!
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Ronaldo is a phenomenal striker, but his greatest achievement is being compared with Messi.
Look man let's not get into this lol, we both know Ronaldo is a perfect blend of speed and power, we both also know Messi is technically much better, let's just appreciate em both!
Zidane,R9,Ronaldinho, Cruyff,Pele,Maradona and Pele are also much better.Please stop calling Cr7 a goat because he is not.Hardly anyone knowledgeable considers him to be the Goat.Foitball is more than just numbers.Cr7 is just a goalscorer,nothing more
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can you imagine being something like a Sporting fan, a Atlético Madrid, United (after CR7), maybe a Roma fan….all some of the teams that haven’t won anything big….meanwhile there’s Real Madrid and Barcelona who dominated football for over 10-15 years….its like these two Ronaldo and Messi reallt never gave any other team and chance, how many amazing players never got to shine as much as they couldve because of what Ronaldo and Messi were doing in laliga and champions league😅 really think about it..being a Atleti or Sevilla fan and all you can do is sit and be forced to watch Messi and Ronaldo accomplishments wondering when or if you would ever get a fair chance to win something😅…atleast now football is in a rebuild era where you’re forced to support a TEAM instead of a player
It depends with what people get to talk about football. There are many genuine football fans that loves the game and acknowledges how good many current players. There are many fans that knows Ronaldo and Messi abilities are outstanding with numbers and what they were doing on the pitch. That’s why many of created a GOAT football category for them, which is steps over top class players.
Tiki taka ruined football it now has become a complete mechanical sport no longer are there chances for individuals to shine properly and shwo their skillset for example the brazillians all their dribbling and flamboyannce a memory of the pastits like basketball they found the perfect strategy hitting threes but it ruins the game for everyone same with football
the real reason why football isn't enjoyable is because big clubs, organizations and companies are exploiting players and fans. Awards are losing their credibility, players are being forced to play an absurd amount of games, the media have a constant bias on players that alters perception to the fans and much more. Blame the media and FIFA they're taking away the football we know and is trying to fix something does not need to be fixed.
New video on that topic soon!
There was a bunch of very good players from 90’s onwards but I have always said, football is not about statistics, it’s all about playmakers, joy to watch, spectacular performances, determination and leadership and yes like goal scoring machine like CR7 you won’t see very soon but the player who fits in all above said, clearly is Messi which we won’t see ever another one like him
Talk about numbers for Cristiano but Messi made the game more beautiful, his passes, dribbling vision and charisma on field makes joga bonito more beautiful
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I think they have created this godlike image of what a player is supposed to look like that its hard to look past them and not compare others to them, but they are still playing, they are relics of the past but they are still active. Wait 4-5 yrs and new names will be coming up, i think michael jordan had the similar level of fame, i was a child(97 born) then and not even american but he was still known by many, but today we have a new batch of players that people say are equal to or even greater than Jordan, i think it would be the same with these football giants. players are forgotten, people dont care about who was the greatest in the past, all that matters is who's the best now
people even still put Pele and Maradona on top
same will happen to cr7 and messi
Messi has had a peak that's well beyond what anyone can do we need to stop trying to bring him down to our level we can compare the ronaldonhos the ronaldos the peles and maradonas but if we try to bring Messi down to a human level that's delusional Messi is a once in an all time existence it was an anomaly.
I ain't gonna lie, after watching Messi and Ronaldo I expected to see similar talents every season. Last year it was Haaland, now it's Palmer. And for some time I expected Mbappe to be that. But..
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0:29, it's MESSIIIIIIIII...and then RONALDOOOOOO
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@ I did, well done