I would use external effects or external aux depending on which DAW you use. Otherwise you need to connect the audio out of your daw into the input of the wa273 and connect the output of the wa273 to the inputs of ypour interface. You create a loopback like that. Record the whole mix to a new track or bounce everything.
I'm interested in this. Are these two pres/eqs matched... for example if you have the controls in the same place for both will it have the gain, same sound? If not are they close?
Hey there! They’re absolutely very close. I never tested how much exactly because I use the unit as dual mono input or as mid side stereo unit (with the help of a plugin) but I never noticed any major differences between the channels, actually not even small differences ;-)
Hey thanks for watching! No you don't need to do that. It's about sound, both input and output color the sound in their own way. Also if i want to saturate the input I need to compensate the output to not have my converter inputs clipping. This unit screams playing with input and output to get where you want :-)
Hey Steve! The wa273-eq is great and sound good whatever I throw on it. Even without eq it adds a bit of low and hi end and saturates nicely. I used it on e-guitars with great succes. Be aware of phase when you use the eq on the channels. It's inductor type EQ which introduces very pleasing sounding phase shifts which we love, but it's phase shift none the less.
Great review, thanks! I have the single channel version and love it. Just a question on the tone switch. I understand that when it’s engaged the impedance is 300 ohms, but most mic manufacturers recommend that the preamp impedance is 4-5 times that of the microphone, any lower than that and the mic is loaded down which reduces the frequency response. For most mics this means the preamp should therefore be set at 1,200 - 1,500 ohms. So I can’t see a use-case for the tone switch apart from degrading the tone! Do you have any thoughts on this?
Thanks for watching! Impedance changing is mostly useful for dynamic mics, those tend to react on impedance changes. It’s not a degradation, it does change sound. You have to experiment which sounds best. But the tone control does also boost the gain more. I toggle between on and off often with mic recording and when I use the wa273 as external effect. Great unit for sure.
@@whitenoisestudio thanks for your reply. I’ll experiment with it using my sm57, but keep it off when using my condenser and ribbon mics. All the best!
@@rogerconnick Your welcome! On condensor impedance change doesnt have any influence due to the way there are built. Can't say for ribbons. Have fun with experimenting!
Voxengo MSED probably. It's freeware so that's nice. Put one instance before the wa273 ( as extenral effect) in encoder mode en then the second after the wa273 in decode mode.
I'm trying to set this up in Studio One Professional. I have inserts in/out plugged into my M Audio 8 track channels 3 and 4. I just have to get Studio One to recognize it now so I can adjust the sound in my DAW with the preamp. I can't wait to figure this out. I didn't even know you could do that until i watched this video. Any help you have would be greatly appreciated. I'm subscribed now by the way. :)
Thanks for subscribing! I'm bit confused now, the wa273-eq doesnt offer any remote control and cant be seen in a DAW , it's all analog. I dont use the insert, just the input outputs of the unit. Soundcard output 3/4 into the wa273-eq line inputs, outputs of the wa273 to the input 3/4 of the soundcard. Then you have to route manually or make an external effect via the pipeline xt plugin ( not familiar with studio one)
Dude hopefully you've learned more by now...how can one be trying to figure this out at this stage in the game,but not realizing...know what? forget it! Lol
Well that depends on your input levels. The neve ''trick'' is to push the input untill it start to distorts and then back off a bit. Output gain for level make up.
Not necessarily. The two channels here are 2 mono channels - each with their own set of controls and they do not influence each other. That said, you can use it as a stereo unit for sure. Stereo uses 2 mono channels - one for left, the other for right side.
Hey man thanks. I used 2 camera's on this video. The normal headshots are all panasonic gh4 and the hand closeup is a panasonic fz300. I always shoot 23.98 fps. The fz300 sometimes does that tracers effect and I do not do that on purpose ;-). It looks like I set the shutterspeed is too low for fluid recording here, although I always set it too double the speed of the framerate ( shutter to 1/50 with the 23.98 framerate, can't go exactly double)
Hey there, please explain ''low noise''. It's an analog unit so there will be a noise floor. If you have a hum, you might have an earth loop somewhere you might want to check out. Could be your overall power or the unit. If it is a hiss, make sure you dont record to softly.
Ok! Yeah with a neve clone like this it’s : increase input gain until it starts to distort and then backup a bit. This will give you all the saturation goodness you want from a channel strip like this.
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I've got one of these in my studio. It's the best preamp I own. Worth every penny spent.
yeah its really good. Still rocking it to this day.
The lyrics killed me.
;-) it didnt end too well with the subject of those lyrics.
funny lyrics to hear solo, but this song slaps!! thanks for this. about to order one myself.
Awesome demo - thank you.
How can you just use the EQ on the mixbus? How should the connection be? Excellent Review!
I would use external effects or external aux depending on which DAW you use. Otherwise you need to connect the audio out of your daw into the input of the wa273 and connect the output of the wa273 to the inputs of ypour interface. You create a loopback like that. Record the whole mix to a new track or bounce everything.
This meek pre sounds great on shchnere droom)) Nice job
Yes the pre sounds warm on audio, doesn't it!
I'm interested in this. Are these two pres/eqs matched... for example if you have the controls in the same place for both will it have the gain, same sound? If not are they close?
Hey there! They’re absolutely very close. I never tested how much exactly because I use the unit as dual mono input or as mid side stereo unit (with the help of a plugin) but I never noticed any major differences between the channels, actually not even small differences ;-)
u should adjust input gain and output and should be in unity? output is too low?
Hey thanks for watching! No you don't need to do that. It's about sound, both input and output color the sound in their own way.
Also if i want to saturate the input I need to compensate the output to not have my converter inputs clipping. This unit screams playing with input and output to get where you want :-)
Would you recommend this unit as a mic pre for mic'd electric guitars (57, 421 & 121 mics)?
Hey Steve! The wa273-eq is great and sound good whatever I throw on it. Even without eq it adds a bit of low and hi end and saturates nicely. I used it on e-guitars with great succes. Be aware of phase when you use the eq on the channels. It's inductor type EQ which introduces very pleasing sounding phase shifts which we love, but it's phase shift none the less.
Great review, thanks! I have the single channel version and love it. Just a question on the tone switch. I understand that when it’s engaged the impedance is 300 ohms, but most mic manufacturers recommend that the preamp impedance is 4-5 times that of the microphone, any lower than that and the mic is loaded down which reduces the frequency response. For most mics this means the preamp should therefore be set at 1,200 - 1,500 ohms. So I can’t see a use-case for the tone switch apart from degrading the tone! Do you have any thoughts on this?
Thanks for watching! Impedance changing is mostly useful for dynamic mics, those tend to react on impedance changes. It’s not a degradation, it does change sound. You have to experiment which sounds best. But the tone control does also boost the gain more.
I toggle between on and off often with mic recording and when I use the wa273 as external effect.
Great unit for sure.
@@whitenoisestudio thanks for your reply. I’ll experiment with it using my sm57, but keep it off when using my condenser and ribbon mics. All the best!
@@rogerconnick
Your welcome!
On condensor impedance change doesnt have any influence due to the way there are built. Can't say for ribbons.
Have fun with experimenting!
Can you tell me the M/S matric plug in name again?
Voxengo MSED probably. It's freeware so that's nice. Put one instance before the wa273 ( as extenral effect) in encoder mode en then the second after the wa273 in decode mode.
I'm trying to set this up in Studio One Professional. I have inserts in/out plugged into my M Audio 8 track channels 3 and 4. I just have to get Studio One to recognize it now so I can adjust the sound in my DAW with the preamp. I can't wait to figure this out. I didn't even know you could do that until i watched this video. Any help you have would be greatly appreciated. I'm subscribed now by the way. :)
Thanks for subscribing!
I'm bit confused now, the wa273-eq doesnt offer any remote control and cant be seen in a DAW , it's all analog.
I dont use the insert, just the input outputs of the unit.
Soundcard output 3/4 into the wa273-eq line inputs, outputs of the wa273 to the input 3/4 of the soundcard.
Then you have to route manually or make an external effect via the pipeline xt plugin ( not familiar with studio one)
Dude hopefully you've learned more by now...how can one be trying to figure this out at this stage in the game,but not realizing...know what? forget it! Lol
Is it better to turn the output all the way to max then adjust the gain or the opposite
Well that depends on your input levels. The neve ''trick'' is to push the input untill it start to distorts and then back off a bit. Output gain for level make up.
@@whitenoisestudio you're the best - even for VOCAL tracking? Or back off the trim to keep it more clean
Does 2 channel mean the same as stereo?
Not necessarily. The two channels here are 2 mono channels - each with their own set of controls and they do not influence each other. That said, you can use it as a stereo unit for sure. Stereo uses 2 mono channels - one for left, the other for right side.
Lmfao the lyrics hahahahhhah
That band once got a review which was like:"this stonerband really convinces you they have a dead body in the trunk of their car" ;-)
What camera and frame speed? I like the tracers effect on you hand movment.
Hey man thanks. I used 2 camera's on this video. The normal headshots are all panasonic gh4 and the hand closeup is a panasonic fz300. I always shoot 23.98 fps.
The fz300 sometimes does that tracers effect and I do not do that on purpose ;-).
It looks like I set the shutterspeed is too low for fluid recording here, although I always set it too double the speed of the framerate ( shutter to 1/50 with the 23.98 framerate, can't go exactly double)
i thought that was a backhanded compliment
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Can i use it as preamplifier for stereo power amp?
well you can, but I wonder if you should. This unit colors like crazy, I think you better find something transparent and hifi.
Nice !!!!!!
Thanks for watching!!!!!
Just bought this unit, I hear a low noise in my recordings. Does yours have the same noise?
Hey there, please explain ''low noise''. It's an analog unit so there will be a noise floor. If you have a hum, you might have an earth loop somewhere you might want to check out. Could be your overall power or the unit. If it is a hiss, make sure you dont record to softly.
@@whitenoisestudio I think it’s a hiss, can’t hear it when you record loud though. Thanks
Ok! Yeah with a neve clone like this it’s : increase input gain until it starts to distort and then backup a bit. This will give you all the saturation goodness you want from a channel strip like this.
same here.. most noise with the eq..
Hi, i hear a hiss when my gain is at 70db onwards. Also when the output volume is 40%. Is it normal ?
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