Thorin Talks: Bad Business in Esports, Blizzard v KESPA, Serral's Lack of a GSL Code S Title & more

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
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    Today we have a piece with one of the most storied and experienced figures in the Esports world, Thorin. Old school StarCraft people will remember him from his days making content like his "Grilled" series of interviews and appearances on shows like Unfiltered. Duncan is THE Esports Historian and a wonderful piece of journalistic talent, and it was an honor to have him on.
    Thorin's Twitter: / thorin
    Thorin's UA-cam: / thooorin
    SCHistorian Twitter: / sc2historian
    Chapters:
    0:00 Coming up and intro
    2:15 Hometown and its impact on him
    8:00 Start in gaming
    11:33 Start in Esports
    17:15 Journalistic approach to Esports
    23:00 Covering a wide variety of Esports
    27:40 The magic of Korea Esports
    30:30 Getting into StarCraft
    37:30 Blizz v Kespa dispute
    44:30 Start of pro SC2 and the business of Esports
    55:00 Region locking
    59:30 The poor monetization of Esports
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  • @jpkirk3604
    @jpkirk3604 2 місяці тому +7

    ScH: "Okay so Thorin, thanks you so much for taking the time today. I really appreciate it :D"
    Thorin: "Alright. :| "
    Love this man

  • @ghiidra__
    @ghiidra__ 2 місяці тому +20

    thorin doesn't get enough love despite his rough moments. hes a legend

  • @ToyohisaTV
    @ToyohisaTV Місяць тому

    Always amazing to hear Thorin! Great work.

  • @misterkefir
    @misterkefir 2 місяці тому +12

    Great interview, dude. Thorin is definitely one of the best (and spiciest) minds to ever work in e-sports.
    Top notch stuff. Appreciated.

  • @jbsmetal8419
    @jbsmetal8419 2 місяці тому +12

    with many of these youtube interviews I tend to play them at 1.25 or even 1.5 speed, this must be one of the few occasions where I've considered actually slowing it down lmao

    • @StarcraftHistorian
      @StarcraftHistorian  2 місяці тому +2

      😂

    • @facundosoler2200
      @facundosoler2200 2 місяці тому

      Imagine what that's like for someone like me whose mother tongue is Spanish 😂 trying to follow what he's saying is challenging 😅

    • @jbsmetal8419
      @jbsmetal8419 2 місяці тому

      @@facundosoler2200 I can totally imagine it, I'm also not a native speaker.

    • @TuEIite
      @TuEIite 2 місяці тому

      Thorin at 1.5x is perfect. A better quality and less distorted 2x.

  • @Rupi57
    @Rupi57 2 місяці тому +9

    One of the best minds in business! ❤

  • @DaveTestaSC
    @DaveTestaSC 2 місяці тому +5

    Honestly this was one of the more interesting interviews you've done IMO. It's always cool to see a break from the norm extending out into the community. Very well done.

  • @KooFsWing
    @KooFsWing 2 місяці тому +6

    really do enjoy your content keep up the good work and never wouldve imagined thorin, would love to see you get Day9 or artosis anyway thank you

  • @officialmcdeath
    @officialmcdeath 2 місяці тому +6

    Now this is a crossover and a half! Thanks for this \m/

  • @slinkybopper2903
    @slinkybopper2903 2 місяці тому +1

    Much love for Thorin!

  • @Kylethejobber
    @Kylethejobber 2 місяці тому +1

    Starcraft is life

  • @ExplosionsAndZombies
    @ExplosionsAndZombies 2 місяці тому +4

    Always great to see Thorin, thanks for putting this up!

  • @justinlee43
    @justinlee43 2 місяці тому

    Sweet!!! We need an ASL podcast!

  • @Fanaro
    @Fanaro 2 місяці тому

    1:07:00 We really need new categories for monopolies.

  • @garryarganis5801
    @garryarganis5801 2 місяці тому +1

    thanks for the interview, even tho i disagree with a couple of things with thorin, its always great to hear a different point of view !

  • @jackcphelps
    @jackcphelps Місяць тому

    this guy knows a lot of jokes

  • @Fanaro
    @Fanaro 2 місяці тому

    1:17:00 The only people who always win are the leeches from the production and distribution companies.

  • @JmaC449
    @JmaC449 2 місяці тому +3

    It doesn't matter if he doesn't have a gsl lol he routinely beats the best gsl players including maru just about everytime...what's the difference if he does it in a gsl studio or another stage? He beats them all it doesn't matter. He's the goat anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves

    • @tambaz2276
      @tambaz2276 2 місяці тому +2

      To answer your question, The main Differences are 1. Koreans are always jetlagged in foreign tourneys 2. GSL format is different and allows players time to prepare which Reynor says makes Zerg (Serral's race) less powerful in GSL, and 3. GSL is absolutely stacked, besides Clem and Serral and whichever Koreans came over from GSL, the level of the average competitor is arguably higher in code S than foreign tournaments. Obviously, SC2 players aren't rich enough to prioritise legacy over more important things such as income but if Serral cared enough about legacy he'd definitely compete in Code S and if he won first try it would solidify his GOAT argument further.

  • @cute7752
    @cute7752 2 місяці тому +1

    He doesn't stop talking, lol

  • @seiaghen
    @seiaghen 2 місяці тому

    starcraft is the perfect endless multiplayer game

  • @Benn1to
    @Benn1to 2 місяці тому +2

    Thorin had me until he acted like Afreeca was gonna pay him for giving them a handy
    Edit: Jesus, he has a horrific take on the BW/Korea controversy as well. Man this interview revealed who Thorin is.

    • @Pr0nogo
      @Pr0nogo Місяць тому

      Could actually discuss your disagreements with his "take" instead of writing the equivalent of a dunk tweet.

    • @Benn1to
      @Benn1to Місяць тому

      @@Pr0nogo imagine referencing Twitter like it’s still relevant

  • @Monotheist137
    @Monotheist137 2 місяці тому +2

    I used to be big listener of JRE and Lex Fridman, but Thorin kind of put them in the back of the bus to me. His side channel have bunkers interviews, not to mention his main work related with eSports.