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This manga had me crying from all the timeskips, like it is hard enough to deal with the constant jumping around from Kenji's past to his present, but this madman had 3 freaking timeskips, all shown within the first chapter. Naoki Urasawa is a mad genius, even though I wasn't able to keep up with the 4 time periods.
I mean it’s stated in 21st Century Boys that Fukubei indeed died in the science classroom and that Katsumata took his personality since then. Of course this creates problems with regards to Friend’s initial death by gunshot in the science room, maybe he had a body double? I feel like Urasawa created a story too large with too short time constraints that these kind of plot holes were inevitable.
I said this before but I really like the revelation that Friend was always Katsumata. Fukubei did have an identity issue but he was somebody. Somebody with dreams and aspirations. Katsumata, from what little we know of him seems extremely codependent and stunted. Despite his achievements, he still fixates on childhood resentment. It's the fact that he props up childhood wonder and weaponizes it makes him extremely warped. I genuinely believe if he had never been "friends" with Fukubei that he would turned out extremely different. Katsumata is the imitation of the imitation. Those are who inherit the world.
really good video, read this manga about 3 years ago but it didn't exactly land well for me but I can always appreciate the amount of detail and straight up insanity that was put into the making of this series
As I read through 20th Century Boys, I felt that Friend was a perfect example of an antagonist who didn’t necessarily need a whole backstory to become effective. His actions throughout the story made him enough of a menace to society that stopping him was the only thing that really mattered. Granted, this is undermined by the whole childhood prophecy connection which, for the most part of the story, really did feel like the one thing that would give insight into who Friend was. However, at the same time, the story also made investigating the childhood prophecy seem like the one thing that could help the main cast defeat Friend, so the drive to find out who he was and stop him kind of came packaged together, even if these two things are separate. Defeating Friend and finding out who he may have been intertwined for most of the story, and yet, at the end of the day, the one thing that actually matters is that Friend is stopped, not that the main cast necessarily identifies him. I’m not necessarily saying that finding out who Friend is isn’t an important part of the story; it is, and it’s far and away the most intriguing part of the story that drives the reader to keep reading, but I’m of the opinion that Friend’s identity isn’t necessarily a critical part of bringing him down, which was the goal of the story for which finding out his identity is a fascinating component.
Great character with a deeply unsatisfying reveal, but at the same time It didn’t bother me cause I cared more about what he represented than who he was
Friend is a friend you don't usually hang out with as a friend but still would consider as a friend. Also that BBC news break was so great holy hell lmao 🤣
Even after a year since I’ve read it, it still has mysteries I can’t understand. Good job for making “Friend” easier to understand, now I need to get back into the manga myself
I think the point of Friend's identity is that the mystery ultimately can't end in a way that would be satisfying to a traditional mystery story. If it was someone the group knew, then the second they find out who it isn't, you'd know who it is before any satisfying reveal. So Friend has to be someone unknown, forgotten like Collins. But, if Kenji had pulled off the mask and it was some stranger, or he remebers and we get a flashback it would be also be unsatisfying. I don't have a big ultimate wrap up and wouldn't dare to pretend I can create a better ending to the mystery. Just that I think the twist was good, but might have been more satisfying if we learned this before skipping to 2014. At least I would've enjoyed it more
Friend really seems like an interesting antagonist and reminds me of one of my favorites. Seonghyun Moon from the webtoon series Dr Frost. The character is basically a fusion of Johan and Friend.
I personally think fukube died as a kid and katsumata was even more neglected than him with an identity crisis And therefore took up fukubes mantle and identity in adulthood And the whole story is just fluctuations between these personalities And there was no death from the gunshot In the later half the true "Katsumata" is fully realised Wish we could call up Urasawa sometimes.
This seems to be the most likely option. It would also explain Kanna’s psychic abilities as Katsumata is the only Friend to be shown with actual psychic powers. It’s easy to then assume that Kanna is actually Katsumata’s daughter and the “medicine” explanation he gives could’ve been a lie he told inorder to further convince himself that he’s Fukube, since Fukube lied about his abilities. It would also make sense for Katsumata to have stolen Fukube’s identity at the time, since that was right after the rumors of Katsumata’s death started to spread. Plus, it fits thematic motif of Katsumata taking the identity/appearance of the “friends.” He did this with Sadakiyo by wearing his mask, so it’s not unfounded that he would do the same with Fukube.
In some way everyone who has read the story and loves the story knows that it can never get an anime adaptation, its so fucking sad, not that it needs an anime to validate its existence, but man you know if it gets adapted then the first two seasons will not have anything happen and people who don't know about it will drop it
The reveal of (SPOILER ALERT) the first friend being Fubukei Hattori made sense to me. But I was disappointed with the 2nd Friend (Katsumata), because his motivation felt trivial.
They are the same person, fukubei died in middle school or elementary and katsumata lived as fukubei/ friend through a split personality, when he was killed by yatsune in the classroom he never died but it was the metaphorical death of the fukubei personality
Naoki makes the best endings, people say monster's ending was anticlimactic and similar things about his other works but it couldn't be further from the truth he makes the best conclusions by far i am talking for all of his works every single one, if one thinks otherwise i would urge you to think or look online and maybe even reread the series and you'll know why he makes the greatest ends.
i agree with your take but it ain't noteworthy imo , most villains in media have anti-christ symbolism so unless a character has very heavy christian symbolism , i don't think it's noteworthy
i remember reading this manga up to somewhere past the halfway point and dropping it- was too drawn out for me personally but i did enjoy it until then
As a die hard fan of Monster, 20th Century Boys never struck me as a piece deserving to be put on the same pedestal as Monster. It felt like an over the top, pulp story cashing in on appeal of mystery and suspense. Twists and turns are all there (something Urasawa is skilled at writing, of course) but that's pretty much all what it offers. Too many unnecessary elements introduced, tries to be many things at once yet leaves more loose ends than it's possible to keep track of.
Yeah I don’t think it holds up to Monster at all, it’s a very good Manga but it goes on a bit too long and gets a bit convoluted at times, it could’ve just been a regular but wider scale mystery without adding too much and it would’ve been good.
3rd video I’ve watched explaining this shit and I still don’t understand call me a bigot or something because it would be so much easier for me to follow if they had names like. James and William or Dave
The Masked Man making a video on The Masked Man
starts yapping 0:00
stops yapping 25:07
I mean this is a in-depth analysis of a fictional person that can very well be true so ofc you'd expect a lot of yapping lmao
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1 whole second of no yap!!?!?
@SamuelFabre-js4pk it is a joke
This manga had me crying from all the timeskips, like it is hard enough to deal with the constant jumping around from Kenji's past to his present, but this madman had 3 freaking timeskips, all shown within the first chapter. Naoki Urasawa is a mad genius, even though I wasn't able to keep up with the 4 time periods.
If Pluto can get an anime adaptation, so should 20th Century Boys
Need a shit load more than 8 episodes to tell the story. Has 3x the amount of volumes as Pluto
@@donniethedealer2623yeah that’s probably why they adapted Pluto they don’t have to fund like three and a half seasons to tell the story
@@12ww37yeah plutos length is perfect for Netflix’s limited series model
i'm waiting for that billy bat anime adaptation
a girl can dream...
Atleast we have the live action trilogy
I mean it’s stated in 21st Century Boys that Fukubei indeed died in the science classroom and that Katsumata took his personality since then. Of course this creates problems with regards to Friend’s initial death by gunshot in the science room, maybe he had a body double?
I feel like Urasawa created a story too large with too short time constraints that these kind of plot holes were inevitable.
I said this before but I really like the revelation that Friend was always Katsumata. Fukubei did have an identity issue but he was somebody. Somebody with dreams and aspirations. Katsumata, from what little we know of him seems extremely codependent and stunted. Despite his achievements, he still fixates on childhood resentment. It's the fact that he props up childhood wonder and weaponizes it makes him extremely warped.
I genuinely believe if he had never been "friends" with Fukubei that he would turned out extremely different. Katsumata is the imitation of the imitation. Those are who inherit the world.
Friend is just a chill guy...........
Very chill
Imagine people seeing this comment in a year not knowing that short life of this meme and thinking what the OP/commenter had in mind
@Justme-vz4pxI was thinking the same thing 😂
@@kristopherwillis8075 glad we've got the same idea ^^
If bad, why is named Friend?
Same reason why ANTIFA and BLM sounds good but are actually the opposite of what they truly represent.
really good video, read this manga about 3 years ago but it didn't exactly land well for me but I can always appreciate the amount of detail and straight up insanity that was put into the making of this series
As I read through 20th Century Boys, I felt that Friend was a perfect example of an antagonist who didn’t necessarily need a whole backstory to become effective. His actions throughout the story made him enough of a menace to society that stopping him was the only thing that really mattered.
Granted, this is undermined by the whole childhood prophecy connection which, for the most part of the story, really did feel like the one thing that would give insight into who Friend was. However, at the same time, the story also made investigating the childhood prophecy seem like the one thing that could help the main cast defeat Friend, so the drive to find out who he was and stop him kind of came packaged together, even if these two things are separate. Defeating Friend and finding out who he may have been intertwined for most of the story, and yet, at the end of the day, the one thing that actually matters is that Friend is stopped, not that the main cast necessarily identifies him.
I’m not necessarily saying that finding out who Friend is isn’t an important part of the story; it is, and it’s far and away the most intriguing part of the story that drives the reader to keep reading, but I’m of the opinion that Friend’s identity isn’t necessarily a critical part of bringing him down, which was the goal of the story for which finding out his identity is a fascinating component.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Love when Masked man uploads
Great character with a deeply unsatisfying reveal, but at the same time It didn’t bother me cause I cared more about what he represented than who he was
Honestly, the mystery surrounding him frustrated me. Especially since we have no definite answer as to what he is.
Friend is a friend you don't usually hang out with as a friend but still would consider as a friend. Also that BBC news break was so great holy hell lmao 🤣
Amazing video!
Doing an analysis on Katsumata theory friend currently. This is def some good motivation and info, thank you!
hurrah more Urasawa content!
FUCK YEAH I LOVE 20TH CENTURY BOYS
IM SO HAPPY HES COMING IN YOUR VIDS
Even after a year since I’ve read it, it still has mysteries I can’t understand. Good job for making “Friend” easier to understand, now I need to get back into the manga myself
I think the point of Friend's identity is that the mystery ultimately can't end in a way that would be satisfying to a traditional mystery story. If it was someone the group knew, then the second they find out who it isn't, you'd know who it is before any satisfying reveal. So Friend has to be someone unknown, forgotten like Collins. But, if Kenji had pulled off the mask and it was some stranger, or he remebers and we get a flashback it would be also be unsatisfying. I don't have a big ultimate wrap up and wouldn't dare to pretend I can create a better ending to the mystery. Just that I think the twist was good, but might have been more satisfying if we learned this before skipping to 2014. At least I would've enjoyed it more
Love seeing your new vids in my feed
Great timing! I just completed this manga a few days ago. This was my first manga and it was an amazing experience
Friend really seems like an interesting antagonist and reminds me of one of my favorites. Seonghyun Moon from the webtoon series Dr Frost. The character is basically a fusion of Johan and Friend.
This manga is amazing and super frustrating at the same time. No real delivery at the end and too many volumes.
Maybe The Real Friend are the Friends we made along the way
How funny that a friend centered flashback occurring in Bleach
that syndrome line 😭 😭
😂😂
1:24 megadeth symphony of destruction:
you dont understand how happy I am that you got the reference.
You try to take his ballllssss
“WaTCh HiiMm BeCoMe a GoOooD”
@@TheMaskedMan You're based for putting a Megadeth reference in this video.
Hell yeah Dave is the man along with the whole band
Fun fact in LOST JUDGEMENT one side story is a parody of 20th century boys. Instead of Friend we have got Giant Impact
4:59 Alright pack it up avocado
right on time, i finished 20th century boys like two weeks ago
He's the friend we made along.
I personally think fukube died as a kid and katsumata was even more neglected than him with an identity crisis
And therefore took up fukubes mantle and identity in adulthood
And the whole story is just fluctuations between these personalities
And there was no death from the gunshot
In the later half the true "Katsumata" is fully realised
Wish we could call up Urasawa sometimes.
This seems to be the most likely option. It would also explain Kanna’s psychic abilities as Katsumata is the only Friend to be shown with actual psychic powers. It’s easy to then assume that Kanna is actually Katsumata’s daughter and the “medicine” explanation he gives could’ve been a lie he told inorder to further convince himself that he’s Fukube, since Fukube lied about his abilities. It would also make sense for Katsumata to have stolen Fukube’s identity at the time, since that was right after the rumors of Katsumata’s death started to spread. Plus, it fits thematic motif of Katsumata taking the identity/appearance of the “friends.” He did this with Sadakiyo by wearing his mask, so it’s not unfounded that he would do the same with Fukube.
In some way everyone who has read the story and loves the story knows that it can never get an anime adaptation, its so fucking sad, not that it needs an anime to validate its existence, but man you know if it gets adapted then the first two seasons will not have anything happen and people who don't know about it will drop it
3:22 WHAT IS GENERAL WOLF DOING HERE?? 😂
I wish 20CB would get an anime. Its one of the greatest manga of all time
So...Fukubei is Homelander (obsessed with fame and fine with being a fraud as long as he isn't exposed to be one) with Johan's charisma.
Love Majoras Mask OST
The reveal of (SPOILER ALERT) the first friend being Fubukei Hattori made sense to me. But I was disappointed with the 2nd Friend (Katsumata), because his motivation felt trivial.
Friend was katsumata always
They are the same person, fukubei died in middle school or elementary and katsumata lived as fukubei/ friend through a split personality, when he was killed by yatsune in the classroom he never died but it was the metaphorical death of the fukubei personality
@@frilsonboogers it proves my point katsumata is friend
They're all acknowledging the Tribal Chief, Solo Sikoa.
Cool video!
Most confusing antagonist in seinen - Friend
Most confusing antagonist in shonen - The Millennium Earl
The author in my opinion knwos how to star manga beautifully. However whenever he tries to end the manga, its usually a miss for me most of the time
Apparently, Urasawa has a tendency to start a new story at the tail end of his previous one. That could explain the rough endings.
Naoki makes the best endings, people say monster's ending was anticlimactic and similar things about his other works but it couldn't be further from the truth he makes the best conclusions by far i am talking for all of his works every single one, if one thinks otherwise i would urge you to think or look online and maybe even reread the series and you'll know why he makes the greatest ends.
The ending for Monster was very good so I disagree, also 21st Century Boys ending was solid too. Only the OG 20th CB ending was disappointing.
I’ve never read friend. But tbh he seems like a parallel to the anti-Christ.
i agree with your take but it ain't noteworthy imo , most villains in media have anti-christ symbolism so unless a character has very heavy christian symbolism , i don't think it's noteworthy
@ agreed. I’m just a Christian so it stuck out like a sore thumb. lol. But you’re 💯 percent right. It’s actually a pretty common trope.
naoki reveals reality while making masterpieces.
That is what i expected from this video
Is there a video like that just to feed my conspiracies
Ive never read it but ive heard so many good things over the years
i remember reading this manga up to somewhere past the halfway point and dropping it- was too drawn out for me personally but i did enjoy it until then
Read this in HS, definitely had me page flipping
30 seconds ago is wild
20thCB is a top 5 manga oat ngl, ending is overhated.
top 5 manga is a bit much , top 10/15 maybe
@@SkeetWeet4368 fata morgana solos your favorite
He really is a confusing villain but also an interesting one as well.🐱
no views, one minute in is crazyy
I wonder if someone will make a manga called " 21st Schizoid Man"
Sounds like fight club with the split personalities.
I love 20th century boys
As a die hard fan of Monster, 20th Century Boys never struck me as a piece deserving to be put on the same pedestal as Monster. It felt like an over the top, pulp story cashing in on appeal of mystery and suspense. Twists and turns are all there (something Urasawa is skilled at writing, of course) but that's pretty much all what it offers. Too many unnecessary elements introduced, tries to be many things at once yet leaves more loose ends than it's possible to keep track of.
Yeah I don’t think it holds up to Monster at all, it’s a very good Manga but it goes on a bit too long and gets a bit convoluted at times, it could’ve just been a regular but wider scale mystery without adding too much and it would’ve been good.
Cool talksprite good veedyo
Some might call it a cult, but I call it a friendship circle.
Lowkey Friend just wanted everyone to be friends.
Such a kind guy 🙏😊
DANDADAN!?!? 19:55
I'm sure this is a great video, I gave it a like, but I can't watch this because I'm currently reading the series.
Hope you enjoy the read
Idk he seems like a good friend
He did not get political
I expect him to get political and conspiratory
Yeah Ignorace is truely bliss
Day 151 of asking for an updated top 100 anime/manga list
he will do that when he hits 500k i believe, pretty sure he updates it every milestone accomplishment
@@JamPierreRow I guess I'm not stopping until he reaches 500k
What the heck is that ending and what the heck does it mean 😂
Too early to win too late to know
great
I just finished the manga a couple minutes ago, please give me answers! Just finished it, answers have been given
What's the name of this manga?
20th Century Boys
Or you can read metro from Haruki Murakami witch works on this terrorist attack as first hand journalist.
5:08 ayo?
7:17 ???😭im so dead.
James Charles is the youtuber
Read Detroit Metal City
Bro how much did the rent increase?
The most confusing? Why not like the most terrifying or menacing one. Nobody is gonna watch the video now
Anotha one
:D
First😊
First
real
Johan > Friend. Monster = 20thcb
I agree personally. Love both series to death
Friend low diffs
20th cb also low diffs
Could Johan actually do what Friend did?
@@CloudsL0 Brainrot victim number 243:
@@Jordie_42 If he put his mind to it he easily could, imo.
3rd video I’ve watched explaining this shit and I still don’t understand call me a bigot or something because it would be so much easier for me to follow if they had names like. James and William or Dave
Day 152 of asking for an updated top 100 anime/manga list