I love this one - Ren and Sam both did an amazing job here. The 1st Money Game talks about government and society, and the 2nd one talks about finance (business economics in a nursery rhyme!) This 3rd part makes the story really personal. Ren invites us in to meet this little boy at a point when he's innocent, full of so much potential, and then the Money Game corrupts him. We still have empathy for him, even after seeing everything he's done, because we understand where he came from.
The second one, which is phenomenal, shows us how the government manipulates us by uncovering their agenda and shows us how they operate. This one I do like better though, simply because Ren just keeps getting better with time. He's a genius and the goat without selling his soul to the devil. I honestly believe that eminem sold his soul to become a goat, but that's another topic for another day.
The part that hits me the hardest (not at the first watch though) is "his example just exaggerated versions of me, him, she, you". What I also loved is how he tired it back to MG 1 and 2 at the very end, with the rain (rain, rain, rain, rain, the storm it comes our way) and the trigger of the money game
he told us his solution in while loading the clip "We could build Utopias, if individuals were taught to use their brains." I think that is the real message of the song.
Part 2 is personally my favorite lyrically. The steps of business economics gets me every single time. Visually, part 3 absolutely. Samuel Perry-Falvey and team were incredible with this video! Thank you for another great reaction! Glad you enjoy Ren content!
I like how you can be a fan and support Ren and maintain your opinion respectfully. I was gut punched by this one, honestly. I have a 6 year old son, and more than anything, it made me so sad for the boy that jimmy was. All he wanted was to make his dad proud.. and never got to hear that. Ren has a way of making his characters feel very real. He also said that the dad represented the most insidious parts of the American dream and I thought that was absolutely a mind fuck.
That's exactly what it should be about. No one should blindly like everything an artist does. No one. And that won't be me either. So appreciate you seeing that I'm treading that line with respect but also feedback and my own opinion. :) You've said some things I didn't know and that makes it all the more fascinating. You're doing great.
Feel much the same. Part 2 is a lyrical vibe, tickling my ears. Part 3 is more storytelling theatre, but still draws you in. And yeah, it’s funny how these things we almost treat as some sort of natural order, money and such, are just man made inventions. Thanks for sharing ✌️
Ren does a lot of call backs but you are right, there is no connection with James. Lesson 1 was a general overview of our place in the money game. Lesson 2 takes a deep dive into how the money game works. Lesson 3 takes a deep dive into how an individual can get lost in the money game. They work best when watched as a trilogy because the theme of the mirror and self-reflection stays fresh in the mind, and the fact that Jimmy could be me or you is more prominent. The them of the killing of the self also becomes more obvious. "The solution is.... Everything is subject to change". We always have the choice to kill off the part of our life that is damaging, from ingesting things we shouldn't, right up to making drastic life choices that harm many people. While Jimmys father was the influence, Jimmy always had the power of free will if he so chose it.
The switch to this style was on purpose. It's very possible this char will get connected. Now let's check out The Hunger or I shot the Sheriff/Hip Hop/ Road to Zion :)
I really enjoy your reactions. Because Ren does link some songs it can be too easy to associate links that aren't really there, don't worry, we've all been there wanting to truly deep dive into the storytelling... Ren's tracks are often best once you've listened to them a few times and taken time to think through each talking point. We all pick up particular aspects that we relate to, having reactors and us as listeners discussing our own interpretations is a great way of us again collaborating and seeking to understand from all perspectives ❤
I loved all 3 but in different ways. They all evoke the same message all in thought provoking ways. First one conceptual, 2nd one straight to the point where the message is very clear to most and very catchy and great sonically. But the 3rd one for me was spectacular visually, sonically and conceptually. He said it was his most ambitious peice and I can see and feel that. It felt like a play/musical/movie. This one for me was the pinnacle. However what each person takes might be different. I think most will agree this was very entertaining.
Good to see you back! I think Ren is clever in that he relayed the overarching message in three unique ways. For me I like Money Game 2 best lyrically, but the storytelling and cinematography in Money Game 3 is genius.
Nice to see you back with a reaction that is not idiotic, over the top fake pandering for views. I think I commented before, but it is worth repeating that I respect you expressing yourself as a adult; and you bring your unique thoughts and musings to the table. Again, refreshing and honest. That's all one could ask for. ❤
Really, really appreciate that. I will always strive to just be me. The views/subs will come, or they won't. But everyone will always be able to say I stayed true. So thanks for the kindness. Got more coming, so let's keep it going!
1:40 if you get rid of one suit at the piano in charge of the music, another will replace them & you won't know who it is... It's the point of the song I've not seen a reactor make that connection yet. Love the way you have been "in" this journey!
The money game series in general is a great showcase of Rens many talents. The ideals and insight I find in Rens music is so refreshing! He not only seems to see that our species is sick, like many others, but seems to genuinely want to make it better and believes it’s possible. I feel with more like minded individuals we could really bring about the change so many of us are longing for. I think deep down many of us see the problems of the world and just simply lack the know how to fix it. Perhaps we stand on the precipice of a great awakening… or our demise. In my heart of hearts I hope we see the path before us as a chance to choose a better way.
I see part 3 as the physical demonstration of 1&2. The chorus "rain rain rain rain The storm it comes our way" is physically rain in 3. In 1 he says that these bits of paper (money) turns a saint into a sinner a child into a killer. Part three demonstrates this literally. There's more there but that's a start ❤
Incredible masterpiece and a valuable lesson to all of us! It basically shows that greed can corrupt…if you let it. I personally don’t have a problem with Jimmy’s story up until he turns 18 and his dad tells him to take all he can because the world don’t give a damn. That’s the lesson Ren is trying to convey, I believe, don’t take all you can and be so selfish and greedy that is affects others negatively.
First - Love your content and reactions! I actually love all three parts, however, I feel like part 3 is about showing what happens if we buy into what he was talking about in parts 1 and 2. I too thought about a link between the Tale of Jenny and Screech - Jimmy and James - maybe two sides of the same coin? James was stealing (money creates killers) and Jimmy was doing the same in a different way. I also love the ending with the rain - Ren mentioned in an interview that he "showing" the chorus. "Rain, Rain, Rain....".
I know exactly what you are saying and I get the same vibe. I think the similarities are the feeling that the song leaves you with. Both are tragedies, and they leave you feeling a little hopeless. But at the same time just the fact that these songs exist are proof that things can get better. You can't solve a problem that nobody will acknowledge. Love the reaction and much love from TX❤
I think your gut is right on this one. I think the subtle clues to this being a companion piece to the Tales are deftly placed, and point us to the dangers of history repeating itself. Jimmy and James: both are victims of accidents of birth who turned villains and then died violent deaths. Ren's a disruptor and seeing and feeling the power of the pattern gives us half a chance of disrupting it ourselves. He breaks the narrative open through the fourth wall and lays out a warning and a solution.
In a way you are right as it’s society that made Jenny and screech the way they were. This is again the result of a father’s abuse. We all play the game without thinking for ourselves. It’s time to wake up! And stop playing the money game! Or following what our parent tell us to do without thinking for yourself is this right or do I think no I want to be kind compassionate and help people around me while I help myself and family. It’s not rocket science we have been told what to do for far too long. With a world war on the cards ask yourself is money and land worth more than people / children’s lives!
It’s a multifaceted work. What parents do to their kids, what choices adults make because of their parents. He takes the Moneygame and reduces it to a single life…but multiply that in our society and it’s where we are at. All of them are morality tales from different perspectives. Your comment about being born into a society with predetermined rules is actually a reflection of this video. What did our parents teach us? What do we pass down to our children? Do we focus our kids on the Moneygame or want them to be better? Humanity still has a long, long way to go.
To me part 1 is a slap in the face and telling people to wake up and what's happening, part 2 is excellent what he says , a brake down and spelling it out for you ,politics and the wealthy equals corruption ( most of the time) part 3 is just plucking one of them out and telling the story that it's not always greener on the other side most of the time.
Great reaction as always. I thing as a SONG same as you i prefer part 2, but as a piece of storytelling, cinema and art this part is a huge step up from anything he (and sam) have done before! Ive got the sick boi album but have not listened to the album version of this yet (im guessing it will be shorter to remove some of the silences within the video)
Connecting MG3 to the tales is absolutely natural. He literally started by doing the “oooooh” from the beginning of Violet’s tale.. I think to warn us that this would be a tragic tale also. Plus the “It’s such a damn shame”.. I’m pretty sure Ren knew precisely what he was doing by putting them in there. Your spidey sense was tingling because it was supposed to. ❤
Also, the idea that history repeats itself for both James and Jimmy. Neither found the way out, and shared the same demise of death after the internal demons took over. In comparison, both stories show that it doesn't matter if you're raised in poverty or wealth, you still have the potential to suffer from the harmful impact of family history.
Ren is theatre, a true craftsman and BARD extraordinaire. This was also filmed in a Secret Garden Party location. Yamaha donated the piano for the shoot. Chef's kiss of a song/performance. You know when Ren says "Let me tell you a tale" that you are in for a show...... Money Game 1 - Ren gave us eyes to see, Money Game 2 - he gave us economics in a nursery rhyme, Money Game 3 - Ren gives us a story to show us the effects of MG2. Hopefully you say MG2 on the Sky Arts stage.....MG2 at a different level.
Hey my guy. Be prepared for a knock on your door. People say that you said that a man went to the moon?! Are you crazy?! You're gonna 🔥 for that man! 😂
Ya gotta watch his BTS filmed by Wolfe Johnson... it's on Rens channel... called: "Money Games pt3 Official After Party"!!! Wolfe did his thang making the behind the scenes for him! Excellent video!!! Highly Recommend it! See what they had to do handling the weapon! See how the ending was filmed feom above (catwalk!)...And Much More!!!
In my head, Jimmy is Screech is an alternate universe. James is doomed no matter what because the system is screwed up. It’s gonna take Ren saying so himself to convince me otherwise.
I think (and i believe ren has said but i can't quote the exact stream so take that as you will) that these bardcore dramas take place within the same world, but the characters arent necessarily related to each other beyond that
Honestly, with all the reactions I've watched Part 3 has really grown on me. Part 2 is still my favorite though, I've had it on repeat and I know all the words 😋 While it's not quite as catchy, I think the video for this one is just incredible, and I was really impressed with Ren's acting ability. If you haven't seen it yet, you should watch Ren's reaction to finding out his Sick Boi album got number one in the UK's charts, it's so fucking heartwarming and wholesome 😁
Haha yes, yes I am. :) I have another long break coming up in a few weeks, but should have plenty of content to keep the channel occupied while I'm gone!
From a musical perspective Money Game 1 & 2 are my preferred songs, however, all three songs have deep and powerful messages that I totally relate to. The piano in MG3 is also beautiful. MG3 has a personal connection because my father was like the father in the story; brainwashed to believe in selfishness, money, and power. He tried to get me to follow him down that path from a very young age. Giving me Machiavelli's The Prince to read when I was eight years old. If you are interested in some of Ren's lighter music, then I recommend the following tracks: Losing It (Fisher Rap Retake) Illest of Our Time Down With The Beat Humble Ocean His covers with his band The Big Push are also great: I Shot The Sherrif Bongo Bong War Pigs
I dont know if anyone mentioned it, but, the lady on the left accidentally got wet by some errant sprays. They had to get her a new bow. Major props for her not moving. It was an only take because of the water. Great reaction.
When he's talked about his songs, he's often talked about how these characters are in the same "cinematic universe". They are not necessarily directly related. Also, he views one and two and the explanation of system and his problems with it. Part 3 is the personification of those systems.
I also felt connections to Tales of Jenny/Screech/Violet, whether intentional or not (although I think everything Ren does is intended) it evokes thought….. to me it showed how your destiny can be planned out almost before you are born depending on the input from the moment you are born. Jimmy/Screach we’re both products of their environment. It’s such a shame!
And Screech is another James. There are connections, intergenerational nature vs nurture. Ren connects us with damaged protagonists, giving us enough to sympathise. The main connection I see is no human is truly evil. In Ren's live concert version of Tales he says we're all only one or two steps away from becoming a "villain" as bad as Screech. Anything we can do to help others rather than isolating others is a good step on the journey.
@@debbiedebster5806 OMG my brain does mashups/recuts of Ren tracks all the time, it's bren happening for months and I love it. Will wake up with my brain giving me a few tracks interwoven in the best way. Haven't experienced that with another artist. Has reduced a lot of rumination and negative thinking
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this already but: To your point, in terms of recurring elements and themes, ToJ&S and MG:III both have “history repeats itself if we don’t recognize and learn from the negatives of where we came from” as the moral of the story
I definitely don't fault you for your thoughts on this I was kind of stuck the same mindset even though I know screech died I mean I just couldn't get it out of my head😊
Nice seeing you again, I don't think I always get notified when you drop. I may have missed it cuz I do smoke but your name pops up and some of the music you react to I haven't heard and I want to listen to it on my own first. My favorite by him right now is Power
A friend from England told me that the British media often includes the phrase "it's such a shame" when dealing with a tragic story. In much the same way the American media uses "thoughts and prays" as a heart felt sentiment but one that has become an almost cliche phrase due the our inability to have a meaningful dialogue about the underlying social and/or economic issues that created the possibility for said tragedy to occur.
@@rivernuri😁 i actually remained calm and seated during my intial viewing. But then, i was enjoying a nice tobbacco pipe while sitting in my rocker on my back porch.
Liked your thoughts. And yeah, you're not just imagining the echoes of Screech in there. Like, I don't think it's meant to be connected, at least story-wise, but there are definite parallels in terms of the way the storytelling is done and the general sound of it, so... yeah. I think my biggest complaint in it all is that while he clearly has an anti-capitalist message here, he's not on board (at least according to stuff he's said on a live stream from 9 days ago) with socialism or communism either, so... I somehow imagine it could be just that much more powerful if it was a more revolutionary message. Still, I celebrate the critique of the current status quo -- both from him, and from you regarding the relatively unchanged nature of the U.S. Constitution (13:08/13:19) -- I just would love to see it go even further. Well... he's young; here's hoping it will one day. ;)
Well, it was different from what I was expected, at this point I should realize that Rèn is unpredictable and go into each track only expecting genius. It was captivating but I’m kinda leaning more towards 2. The story writing and his ability to continue to be the one take master is unmatched. I love his music but think he has a future entertaining us in other forms of the entertainment industry. I thought the new album was awesome, but a little dark. I hope he got everything off his chest. The world needs a more hopeful Ren. His talent though, undeniable and I’m all in. Thanks for all your reactions, super enjoyable. ✌🏻👊🏻
I think the world need Ren the way he is. No one need to like everything he does. He just does what he is in his life to do. There are plenty of people on this planet and maybe you are the one to bring some for you hopeful messages? Or receive from someone else? I think it is important to take care of oneself and ones needs in this pretty challenging world, and Ren is just another fella. He wont be able to fit anyone but himself, hopefully. This album was exactly what I needed, so on behalf of the side of humanity that needed some of his songs more than air at the moment, I just wanted to make that clear. For me they are very hopeful. Someone who speaks out, reaching so many people.. finally. Most of Ren's music creations makes me feel so much love & healthy anger & hope. Sick Boi, Money Game pt2/3, Heretic, Hi Ren, Hunger, Suicide, Lost all faith, Dominoes, Humble etc.. So we are all different and I think that is just lifes beauty that we are ❤
Phenomenal 👌 Just a heads up, your audio is really low. My headphones are all the way up but i can hardly hear the song. Ive already watched it so no biggie just an FYI. Keep rocking these reactions 🖤
Really? Shiiiii it should be on max volume haha. But I did notice an error in a separate video so it may have bled into this one. No worries, it's been fixed. :) Glad you liked it, and you know I will!
I think there was a correlation with the trilogy of Jenny and Screech this being a tragedy of a flawed system and cycle of violence (and sins) and it told the story of the money game in polarized matter. Fusion of sorts.
Yeah I'm curious if he used that name just to make us remember the tale of Jenny and screech so that we think of coming up poor and then money game 3 coming up Well-to-do😊
You're not totally off base. The beginning is very reminiscent of Violet's Tale, and of course "it's such a shame". Also, Hi Ren, is someone battling the negative voice in his head, rising up from a wheel chair, and coming to terms with himself, while this is someone battling the voice of his father in his head, ending up in a wheel chair and struggling to come to terms with his choices. Oh, and both Money Game 3 and Hi Ren are 9 minutes 19 seconds. I think that even if there's no real connection in each of these stories, they all co-exist in the Renoverse, and that makes them all connected.
Honestly I really think Ren does utilize phrases from all of his songs so that he can tie them in if he wants I mean Jimmy could be a grandfather of Violet or Stevie.
As far as a “song”, something that you’d listen to in your car or whatever… Money Game 2 is “better”, certainly. #3 is not something I’d bump in my car. #3, like Hi Ren, is a performance piece. It’s more a piece of art than our typical idea of a song. The minute you talked about money being an invention during a previous video, I knew you’d relate to this one. It’s the first thing I thought of.
What I think of most (besides the wisdom of the story, of course) during this piece is the astonishing amount of coordination, practice and perfection that went into getting all of that in one take. ASTONISHING! And not something the majority of artists would even consider doing. He’s the king of one takes. And I love that Ren uses his platform to passionately speak of his beliefs. He’s an exceptional human being who backs up that talk with his actions. Thanks for another great reaction. God willing, I’m off to dreamland. ☮️
Overthinking much? 😂 No connection whatsoever... IMO this is his most advanced video and musically creative peice. It rivals Hi Ren. It doesn't get me as emotional but it is extremely thought provoking and eye opening. I have already watched it 50x at least! 😆
I think the literal point of his music is to think about it, almost ad nauseum, to drum up your own conclusion, have a discussion, and get back to the central point, which I got at the end, so it doesn't matter. To answer you..I mean... yeah? Lol the fuck. xD
@@TheBlackSpeedThe rubix cube and the computer was referance to time period... the 80's. I've watched every available reaction to this and nobody else checked to see if he solved it! Hahaha. That was funny.
@@TheBlackSpeed I saw this at first... Everyone who has a sack on there head are still in the money game. Ren was in the money game (signed by Sony) but his illness took him out of it (lost his contrat) and the next person came along to fill his shoes. He then took a look in the mirror and got a glimps of how things reaaly are and saw the truth about the money game...
For me, Jimmy in MG3 and Screech's story parallel each other only in that they are stories about how a life can lead to corruption. Jimmy's story is clear that he advantages from the start - whether his father's advice started good or not - but his "sins" led to corruption. Screech's life started and ended hard. Was Screech corrupt at the end? I'm not sure. He seemed remorseful when he ran to Patrick's house and was so confrontational with the cop that it's like he wanted to die. (I guess there's a parallel there too in that they both want out of life in the end). I'm not saying Screech didn’t deserve to go to jail, but I think he might've been rehabilitated (🙄 dumb word). I don’t have that empathetic view toward Jimmy.
the only paralel that was intended that I could tel is the generational connection ,,, abuse and trauma come in many forms whether it be physical abuse , sexual abuse .. or emotional abuse such as a father driving his son to succeed and not giving him the approval he needs
😂 how did AU/RA say it... don't put ideas in my head 😂 be careful when might come across that and think well gee that sounds like fun let's do that😂😂😂😂 because I can totally see him doing that
No, no, you'll spot a number of references to previous work. Not just direct references either. You'll recognise snippets of melody, certain ways of pronunciation, certain phrases, and so on. Actually, Ren has specifically said the "damn shame" line was a direct reference to the Tale of Jenny. So we'll done that man! Personally, the goosebumps moment for me was the last line, sung in the same tune as in Part 1. . One of the amazing statistics about human development that always gets me is this: it took us around 6,000 years to get from the wheel to the automobile, and only about 60 to get from the Wright Brothers to Apollo 11.
Part one was ok for an introduction to money game. It was a bit simple - part 2 was my favourite musically and lyrically the message it gave. Part 3 was technical but lacking musically for me I wanted it to go more place even maybe a fast rap with the violins would have be cool
I think that parts 1 & 2 were career-defining levels of musicianship and storytelling. Part 1 is a hybrid of a micro and macro narrative with a combination of spoken word and a quasi-Motown chorus with minimal instrumentation. Part 2 is macro and, same song structure but big instrumentation. I think that the music is calibrated to the thematic content. Part 3 goes micro and back to minimal with the instrumentation again, with a more bombastic instrument. I don't think that Part 3 had to be made, as I think 1 & 2 are genius. But, Part 3 was a grower, for me. Third time through, I was hooked.
No, they killed screech and his dad was broke. Screech was dead by 14 and was an orphan. I am not going to go full Renegade - great reaction it is genuine to you and Ren is great for making you think and i like your thoughts. Money Game 1- because I do have a high opinion of my own morality but i do sacrifice it to fit in, like buying sweat shop Nike's ordering things in plastic bottles because its convenient - the hypocrisy. 2 - The learning of economics and how the mind of the corporate rich work/ and the way the lyric video was setup was awesome and 3- teaching me not to put too much pressure on my kids and watch what i stress is important in this world -So no, i don't have a favorite because they were all amazing. But if i had to pick a favorite order Money game 1 and then 3 and lastly 2- i loved the almost violence of number 1 lol
Great visual. But how does this stand up as music? I don't see how Ren will get air time with this? Luckily for Ren, he's not chasing that. I sometimes believe that Ren will always be an underground artist, which is great by me. Though I now understand why many people I know don't get into Ren. I sometimes feel like it's an exclusive club, with so much hidden stuff, that keeping up is exhausting. I prefer Rens more vibing songs, then the RENagades fandom. Cheers for your thoughts.🙏💙
See, and I respect that and agree with this a bit. I do think at times, you get much more into the creative side of your talents than the exposure. Like I'm going to create just for me, but I'll create for you later sort of thing. I too agree and understand how it can be difficult, both sonically listening to this and the fandom haha. It's a lot.
You are not wrong... no connection, other thsn Ren. He does use similar lyrical motifs & bridges, so yes, "...such a shame" sounds awfully similar to the end of both Jenny AND Screech. I like Part I best, because it's live, it's original, & because it's really well-choreographed, & a near-perfect blend of rap and vocals.
I'm with you, I liked 1 and 2 the most (I think 2 is still my favorite). I get the point and purpose of 3, was just something different about it that didn't hit the same way 2 did for me. But this was visually my favorite, I'll give him that.
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I love this one - Ren and Sam both did an amazing job here. The 1st Money Game talks about government and society, and the 2nd one talks about finance (business economics in a nursery rhyme!) This 3rd part makes the story really personal. Ren invites us in to meet this little boy at a point when he's innocent, full of so much potential, and then the Money Game corrupts him. We still have empathy for him, even after seeing everything he's done, because we understand where he came from.
The second one, which is phenomenal, shows us how the government manipulates us by uncovering their agenda and shows us how they operate. This one I do like better though, simply because Ren just keeps getting better with time. He's a genius and the goat without selling his soul to the devil. I honestly believe that eminem sold his soul to become a goat, but that's another topic for another day.
Sorry... I wasn't trying to comment off of your comment, but that's where it ended up lol.
The part that hits me the hardest (not at the first watch though) is "his example just exaggerated versions of me, him, she, you".
What I also loved is how he tired it back to MG 1 and 2 at the very end, with the rain (rain, rain, rain, rain, the storm it comes our way) and the trigger of the money game
he told us his solution in while loading the clip "We could build Utopias, if individuals were taught to use their brains." I think that is the real message of the song.
Part 2 is personally my favorite lyrically. The steps of business economics gets me every single time. Visually, part 3 absolutely. Samuel Perry-Falvey and team were incredible with this video! Thank you for another great reaction! Glad you enjoy Ren content!
Of course, and I appreciate you taking time out of your day to stop by. :)
I like how you can be a fan and support Ren and maintain your opinion respectfully. I was gut punched by this one, honestly. I have a 6 year old son, and more than anything, it made me so sad for the boy that jimmy was. All he wanted was to make his dad proud.. and never got to hear that. Ren has a way of making his characters feel very real. He also said that the dad represented the most insidious parts of the American dream and I thought that was absolutely a mind fuck.
That's exactly what it should be about. No one should blindly like everything an artist does. No one. And that won't be me either. So appreciate you seeing that I'm treading that line with respect but also feedback and my own opinion. :)
You've said some things I didn't know and that makes it all the more fascinating. You're doing great.
Feel much the same. Part 2 is a lyrical vibe, tickling my ears. Part 3 is more storytelling theatre, but still draws you in. And yeah, it’s funny how these things we almost treat as some sort of natural order, money and such, are just man made inventions.
Thanks for sharing ✌️
Ren does a lot of call backs but you are right, there is no connection with James.
Lesson 1 was a general overview of our place in the money game.
Lesson 2 takes a deep dive into how the money game works.
Lesson 3 takes a deep dive into how an individual can get lost in the money game.
They work best when watched as a trilogy because the theme of the mirror and self-reflection stays fresh in the mind, and the fact that Jimmy could be me or you is more prominent.
The them of the killing of the self also becomes more obvious.
"The solution is.... Everything is subject to change".
We always have the choice to kill off the part of our life that is damaging, from ingesting things we shouldn't, right up to making drastic life choices that harm many people.
While Jimmys father was the influence, Jimmy always had the power of free will if he so chose it.
The switch to this style was on purpose. It's very possible this char will get connected. Now let's check out The Hunger or I shot the Sheriff/Hip Hop/ Road to Zion :)
I really enjoy your reactions.
Because Ren does link some songs it can be too easy to associate links that aren't really there, don't worry, we've all been there wanting to truly deep dive into the storytelling...
Ren's tracks are often best once you've listened to them a few times and taken time to think through each talking point. We all pick up particular aspects that we relate to, having reactors and us as listeners discussing our own interpretations is a great way of us again collaborating and seeking to understand from all perspectives ❤
I loved all 3 but in different ways. They all evoke the same message all in thought provoking ways. First one conceptual, 2nd one straight to the point where the message is very clear to most and very catchy and great sonically. But the 3rd one for me was spectacular visually, sonically and conceptually. He said it was his most ambitious peice and I can see and feel that. It felt like a play/musical/movie. This one for me was the pinnacle. However what each person takes might be different. I think most will agree this was very entertaining.
Good to see you back!
I think Ren is clever in that he relayed the overarching message in three unique ways. For me I like Money Game 2 best lyrically, but the storytelling and cinematography in Money Game 3 is genius.
Nice to see you back with a reaction that is not idiotic, over the top fake pandering for views. I think I commented before, but it is worth repeating that I respect you expressing yourself as a adult; and you bring your unique thoughts and musings to the table. Again, refreshing and honest. That's all one could ask for. ❤
Really, really appreciate that. I will always strive to just be me. The views/subs will come, or they won't. But everyone will always be able to say I stayed true. So thanks for the kindness. Got more coming, so let's keep it going!
@@TheBlackSpeed Yes. Keep going, mate. Focus on the views and not the subs. The "subscriber" amount means nothing compared to viewership.
1:40 if you get rid of one suit at the piano in charge of the music, another will replace them & you won't know who it is... It's the point of the song I've not seen a reactor make that connection yet. Love the way you have been "in" this journey!
Nice reaction. Very thoughtful. Personally I prefer part 2 as well, but his is a stageshow masterpiece that could be on broadway!
Three separate examples of greed and how it corrupts, all amazing in their own way, each a different view of "The Money Game".
The money game series in general is a great showcase of Rens many talents. The ideals and insight I find in Rens music is so refreshing! He not only seems to see that our species is sick, like many others, but seems to genuinely want to make it better and believes it’s possible. I feel with more like minded individuals we could really bring about the change so many of us are longing for. I think deep down many of us see the problems of the world and just simply lack the know how to fix it. Perhaps we stand on the precipice of a great awakening… or our demise. In my heart of hearts I hope we see the path before us as a chance to choose a better way.
Love the journey he takes me on. I love all three, I cannot even choose a favorite.
I see part 3 as the physical demonstration of 1&2. The chorus "rain rain rain rain The storm it comes our way" is physically rain in 3. In 1 he says that these bits of paper (money) turns a saint into a sinner a child into a killer. Part three demonstrates this literally. There's more there but that's a start ❤
The piano bass line is dope. Couldn’t get enough of the strings.
Incredible masterpiece and a valuable lesson to all of us! It basically shows that greed can corrupt…if you let it. I personally don’t have a problem with Jimmy’s story up until he turns 18 and his dad tells him to take all he can because the world don’t give a damn. That’s the lesson Ren is trying to convey, I believe, don’t take all you can and be so selfish and greedy that is affects others negatively.
Oh, here we go.
Can't wait for you to see THIS one.
Love your comments. Well said. 🎶🤘🏼
First - Love your content and reactions! I actually love all three parts, however, I feel like part 3 is about showing what happens if we buy into what he was talking about in parts 1 and 2. I too thought about a link between the Tale of Jenny and Screech - Jimmy and James - maybe two sides of the same coin? James was stealing (money creates killers) and Jimmy was doing the same in a different way. I also love the ending with the rain - Ren mentioned in an interview that he "showing" the chorus. "Rain, Rain, Rain....".
Insightful! Thanks for sharing! ❤️🔥✌🏻🫶🏻
I know exactly what you are saying and I get the same vibe. I think the similarities are the feeling that the song leaves you with. Both are tragedies, and they leave you feeling a little hopeless. But at the same time just the fact that these songs exist are proof that things can get better. You can't solve a problem that nobody will acknowledge. Love the reaction and much love from TX❤
Much love from Texas. :) Appreciate you and your assessment!
I think your gut is right on this one. I think the subtle clues to this being a companion piece to the Tales are deftly placed, and point us to the dangers of history repeating itself. Jimmy and James: both are victims of accidents of birth who turned villains and then died violent deaths. Ren's a disruptor and seeing and feeling the power of the pattern gives us half a chance of disrupting it ourselves. He breaks the narrative open through the fourth wall and lays out a warning and a solution.
In a way you are right as it’s society that made Jenny and screech the way they were. This is again the result of a father’s abuse. We all play the game without thinking for ourselves. It’s time to wake up! And stop playing the money game! Or following what our parent tell us to do without thinking for yourself is this right or do I think no I want to be kind compassionate and help people around me while I help myself and family. It’s not rocket science we have been told what to do for far too long. With a world war on the cards ask yourself is money and land worth more than people / children’s lives!
It’s a multifaceted work. What parents do to their kids, what choices adults make because of their parents. He takes the Moneygame and reduces it to a single life…but multiply that in our society and it’s where we are at. All of them are morality tales from different perspectives.
Your comment about being born into a society with predetermined rules is actually a reflection of this video. What did our parents teach us? What do we pass down to our children? Do we focus our kids on the Moneygame or want them to be better?
Humanity still has a long, long way to go.
To me part 1 is a slap in the face and telling people to wake up and what's happening, part 2 is excellent what he says , a brake down and spelling it out for you ,politics and the wealthy equals corruption ( most of the time) part 3 is just plucking one of them out and telling the story that it's not always greener on the other side most of the time.
Great reaction as always. I thing as a SONG same as you i prefer part 2, but as a piece of storytelling, cinema and art this part is a huge step up from anything he (and sam) have done before! Ive got the sick boi album but have not listened to the album version of this yet (im guessing it will be shorter to remove some of the silences within the video)
Connecting MG3 to the tales is absolutely natural. He literally started by doing the “oooooh” from the beginning of Violet’s tale.. I think to warn us that this would be a tragic tale also. Plus the “It’s such a damn shame”.. I’m pretty sure Ren knew precisely what he was doing by putting them in there.
Your spidey sense was tingling because it was supposed to. ❤
Haha I love the validation in this comment. Thank you, mam.
Also, the idea that history repeats itself for both James and Jimmy. Neither found the way out, and shared the same demise of death after the internal demons took over. In comparison, both stories show that it doesn't matter if you're raised in poverty or wealth, you still have the potential to suffer from the harmful impact of family history.
this is one of my favorites! and the reaction is gold too.
Ren is theatre, a true craftsman and BARD extraordinaire. This was also filmed in a Secret Garden Party location. Yamaha donated the piano for the shoot. Chef's kiss of a song/performance. You know when Ren says "Let me tell you a tale" that you are in for a show...... Money Game 1 - Ren gave us eyes to see, Money Game 2 - he gave us economics in a nursery rhyme, Money Game 3 - Ren gives us a story to show us the effects of MG2. Hopefully you say MG2 on the Sky Arts stage.....MG2 at a different level.
Hey my guy.
Be prepared for a knock on your door. People say that you said that a man went to the moon?! Are you crazy?! You're gonna 🔥 for that man! 😂
Let 'em come lol. I have smoke for 'em. :)
Ya gotta watch his BTS filmed by Wolfe Johnson... it's on Rens channel... called: "Money Games pt3 Official After Party"!!!
Wolfe did his thang making the behind the scenes for him!
Excellent video!!!
Highly Recommend it!
See what they had to do handling the weapon! See how the ending was filmed feom above (catwalk!)...And Much More!!!
In my head, Jimmy is Screech is an alternate universe. James is doomed no matter what because the system is screwed up. It’s gonna take Ren saying so himself to convince me otherwise.
I am so looking forward to your reaction!!!❤❤
thank you for reacting to my favourite artist ever the sick boi album is amazing the first track seven sins is fire ❤❤
Excellent content, thank you sir ✌️
I think really it works incredibly if you watch them back to back as a trilogy, you spot so many Easter eggs.
I think (and i believe ren has said but i can't quote the exact stream so take that as you will) that these bardcore dramas take place within the same world, but the characters arent necessarily related to each other beyond that
Honestly, with all the reactions I've watched Part 3 has really grown on me. Part 2 is still my favorite though, I've had it on repeat and I know all the words 😋 While it's not quite as catchy, I think the video for this one is just incredible, and I was really impressed with Ren's acting ability. If you haven't seen it yet, you should watch Ren's reaction to finding out his Sick Boi album got number one in the UK's charts, it's so fucking heartwarming and wholesome 😁
Brilliant! Thanks for the reaction. This is my favorite of the three…at this moment, anyway. 😂 ☮️❤️😎
Looking forward to your reaction to this!!! Going to be fun doing it live 😀
Hey you’re back! Looking forward to this react ❤
Haha yes, yes I am. :) I have another long break coming up in a few weeks, but should have plenty of content to keep the channel occupied while I'm gone!
Loved your reaction ✌️
From a musical perspective Money Game 1 & 2 are my preferred songs, however, all three songs have deep and powerful messages that I totally relate to. The piano in MG3 is also beautiful. MG3 has a personal connection because my father was like the father in the story; brainwashed to believe in selfishness, money, and power. He tried to get me to follow him down that path from a very young age. Giving me Machiavelli's The Prince to read when I was eight years old.
If you are interested in some of Ren's lighter music, then I recommend the following tracks:
Losing It (Fisher Rap Retake)
Illest of Our Time
Down With The Beat
Humble
Ocean
His covers with his band The Big Push are also great:
I Shot The Sherrif
Bongo Bong
War Pigs
Again great reaction!
I dont know if anyone mentioned it, but, the lady on the left accidentally got wet by some errant sprays. They had to get her a new bow. Major props for her not moving. It was an only take because of the water. Great reaction.
Loved your breakdown mate!!
When he's talked about his songs, he's often talked about how these characters are in the same "cinematic universe". They are not necessarily directly related. Also, he views one and two and the explanation of system and his problems with it. Part 3 is the personification of those systems.
I also felt connections to Tales of Jenny/Screech/Violet, whether intentional or not (although I think everything Ren does is intended) it evokes thought….. to me it showed how your destiny can be planned out almost before you are born depending on the input from the moment you are born. Jimmy/Screach we’re both products of their environment. It’s such a shame!
And Screech is another James. There are connections, intergenerational nature vs nurture.
Ren connects us with damaged protagonists, giving us enough to sympathise. The main connection I see is no human is truly evil. In Ren's live concert version of Tales he says we're all only one or two steps away from becoming a "villain" as bad as Screech. Anything we can do to help others rather than isolating others is a good step on the journey.
Speaking of hearing other music, when I'm humming this, "Daddy says you're losing the race.... your UA-cam views lower than your calorie intake"😂😉
@@debbiedebster5806 OMG my brain does mashups/recuts of Ren tracks all the time, it's bren happening for months and I love it. Will wake up with my brain giving me a few tracks interwoven in the best way. Haven't experienced that with another artist. Has reduced a lot of rumination and negative thinking
@@Skittenmeow I totally relate! My mental radio plays Ren 24/7... with bonus mashup tracks!😃
@@Skittenmeow oh I do the same, I love it
Great insight!
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this already but: To your point, in terms of recurring elements and themes, ToJ&S and MG:III both have “history repeats itself if we don’t recognize and learn from the negatives of where we came from” as the moral of the story
Yeeeesss. It’s next! 😆
Let’s goooooo.
So much talent and insight.
I definitely don't fault you for your thoughts on this I was kind of stuck the same mindset even though I know screech died I mean I just couldn't get it out of my head😊
He does hum the same tune from Violets tale begining scene, at the beginning when he's fixing his hair in the mirror.
He sure does, thank you. Knew I was missing even more connections/callbacks.
Love your reaction brother ❤️ 💙 ♥️
Ren likes putting in Easter eggs referring to his early work.
Missed the notification due to household chores. Much love 😁👍
Stop missing notifications, Vitae. We won't stand for that again.
Nice seeing you again, I don't think I always get notified when you drop. I may have missed it cuz I do smoke but your name pops up and some of the music you react to I haven't heard and I want to listen to it on my own first. My favorite by him right now is Power
Gotta get that bell fixed! Don't want you missing anything. :) That's funny though.
A friend from England told me that the British media often includes the phrase "it's such a shame" when dealing with a tragic story. In much the same way the American media uses "thoughts and prays" as a heart felt sentiment but one that has become an almost cliche phrase due the our inability to have a meaningful dialogue about the underlying social and/or economic issues that created the possibility for said tragedy to occur.
Oooooo you're the first to bring this up to me. I love that, and that's a very interesting parallel. Jeez.
Ur the first reactor iv seen notice the rubix cube. Its been doin my head in😂
Lmao I try to notice the little things.
Great vid!
So stoked for this one. I predict you'll have to walk at least twice
Ha. I think you may actually be surprised as to what I think. We'll talk about it during a stream soon, among many other things.
I think we've all watched it many times... Too much to comprehend in one viewing 💖
Ok, no walkies for you. I had to walk when I first saw it lol
Lmao not in this one.@@rivernuri
@@rivernuri😁 i actually remained calm and seated during my intial viewing. But then, i was enjoying a nice tobbacco pipe while sitting in my rocker on my back porch.
Oh my God it is a masterpiece
Liked your thoughts. And yeah, you're not just imagining the echoes of Screech in there. Like, I don't think it's meant to be connected, at least story-wise, but there are definite parallels in terms of the way the storytelling is done and the general sound of it, so... yeah. I think my biggest complaint in it all is that while he clearly has an anti-capitalist message here, he's not on board (at least according to stuff he's said on a live stream from 9 days ago) with socialism or communism either, so... I somehow imagine it could be just that much more powerful if it was a more revolutionary message. Still, I celebrate the critique of the current status quo -- both from him, and from you regarding the relatively unchanged nature of the U.S. Constitution (13:08/13:19) -- I just would love to see it go even further. Well... he's young; here's hoping it will one day. ;)
Well, it was different from what I was expected, at this point I should realize that Rèn is unpredictable and go into each track only expecting genius. It was captivating but I’m kinda leaning more towards 2. The story writing and his ability to continue to be the one take master is unmatched. I love his music but think he has a future entertaining us in other forms of the entertainment industry. I thought the new album was awesome, but a little dark. I hope he got everything off his chest. The world needs a more hopeful Ren. His talent though, undeniable and I’m all in. Thanks for all your reactions, super enjoyable. ✌🏻👊🏻
I think the world need Ren the way he is. No one need to like everything he does. He just does what he is in his life to do. There are plenty of people on this planet and maybe you are the one to bring some for you hopeful messages? Or receive from someone else?
I think it is important to take care of oneself and ones needs in this pretty challenging world, and Ren is just another fella. He wont be able to fit anyone but himself, hopefully.
This album was exactly what I needed, so on behalf of the side of humanity that needed some of his songs more than air at the moment, I just wanted to make that clear. For me they are very hopeful. Someone who speaks out, reaching so many people.. finally.
Most of Ren's music creations makes me feel so much love & healthy anger & hope. Sick Boi, Money Game pt2/3, Heretic, Hi Ren, Hunger, Suicide, Lost all faith, Dominoes, Humble etc..
So we are all different and I think that is just lifes beauty that we are ❤
No correlation with The Tales trilogy. Ren is a storyteller, that's the thread.
Yup, I got that by the end. :)
For me the first two were societal, 3 makes it personal
Phenomenal 👌 Just a heads up, your audio is really low. My headphones are all the way up but i can hardly hear the song. Ive already watched it so no biggie just an FYI. Keep rocking these reactions 🖤
Really? Shiiiii it should be on max volume haha. But I did notice an error in a separate video so it may have bled into this one. No worries, it's been fixed. :) Glad you liked it, and you know I will!
Masterpiece!
I think there was a correlation with the trilogy of Jenny and Screech this being a tragedy of a flawed system and cycle of violence (and sins) and it told the story of the money game in polarized matter. Fusion of sorts.
Yeah I'm curious if he used that name just to make us remember the tale of Jenny and screech so that we think of coming up poor and then money game 3 coming up Well-to-do😊
I've been calling this "Jimmy's Tale: Life in the Money Game"
Ooooo, wouldn't that be neat. I like that.
Shirt game on point👌
I always try to come correct with the clothing haha. Gotta keep it fresh!
@@TheBlackSpeed Keep that mindset when it comes to bedroom activities and you gonna make some lady very happy one day.
Lmao. She's happy. ;)@@TheHeavySoulsSA
@@TheBlackSpeed Good. It’s Halloween.
Your turn to be Princess Leia for a change.
You're not totally off base. The beginning is very reminiscent of Violet's Tale, and of course "it's such a shame". Also, Hi Ren, is someone battling the negative voice in his head, rising up from a wheel chair, and coming to terms with himself, while this is someone battling the voice of his father in his head, ending up in a wheel chair and struggling to come to terms with his choices. Oh, and both Money Game 3 and Hi Ren are 9 minutes 19 seconds. I think that even if there's no real connection in each of these stories, they all co-exist in the Renoverse, and that makes them all connected.
Not connected, but so many similarities that I view this as the 4th Tale.
I have the same opinions mostly. 2 is the best from a music perspective. 3 is an amazing visual.
Honestly I really think Ren does utilize phrases from all of his songs so that he can tie them in if he wants I mean Jimmy could be a grandfather of Violet or Stevie.
Off Topic… Love The Shirt!
Haha appreciate you, glad you liked it. :)
Screech died at age 14. Jimmy died at 45.
Lets goooo! 🥰
As far as a “song”, something that you’d listen to in your car or whatever… Money Game 2 is “better”, certainly. #3 is not something I’d bump in my car. #3, like Hi Ren, is a performance piece. It’s more a piece of art than our typical idea of a song.
The minute you talked about money being an invention during a previous video, I knew you’d relate to this one. It’s the first thing I thought of.
What I think of most (besides the wisdom of the story, of course) during this piece is the astonishing amount of coordination, practice and perfection that went into getting all of that in one take. ASTONISHING! And not something the majority of artists would even consider doing. He’s the king of one takes.
And I love that Ren uses his platform to passionately speak of his beliefs. He’s an exceptional human being who backs up that talk with his actions.
Thanks for another great reaction. God willing, I’m off to dreamland. ☮️
Overthinking much? 😂 No connection whatsoever...
IMO this is his most advanced video and musically creative peice. It rivals Hi Ren. It doesn't get me as emotional but it is extremely thought provoking and eye opening. I have already watched it 50x at least! 😆
I think the literal point of his music is to think about it, almost ad nauseum, to drum up your own conclusion, have a discussion, and get back to the central point, which I got at the end, so it doesn't matter. To answer you..I mean... yeah? Lol the fuck. xD
@@TheBlackSpeedThe rubix cube and the computer was referance to time period... the 80's. I've watched every available reaction to this and nobody else checked to see if he solved it! Hahaha. That was funny.
Lol I try to catch everything my man, even if it takes me a while I usually get to where I need to go. It even made me laugh editing it.
@@TheBlackSpeed I saw this at first... Everyone who has a sack on there head are still in the money game. Ren was in the money game (signed by Sony) but his illness took him out of it (lost his contrat) and the next person came along to fill his shoes. He then took a look in the mirror and got a glimps of how things reaaly are and saw the truth about the money game...
If I want to watch a video and listen to a story then definitely 3 but if I want to listen to something in my car then definitely 2
For me, Jimmy in MG3 and Screech's story parallel each other only in that they are stories about how a life can lead to corruption. Jimmy's story is clear that he advantages from the start - whether his father's advice started good or not - but his "sins" led to corruption. Screech's life started and ended hard. Was Screech corrupt at the end? I'm not sure. He seemed remorseful when he ran to Patrick's house and was so confrontational with the cop that it's like he wanted to die. (I guess there's a parallel there too in that they both want out of life in the end). I'm not saying Screech didn’t deserve to go to jail, but I think he might've been rehabilitated (🙄 dumb word). I don’t have that empathetic view toward Jimmy.
I also connected this with jenny and screetch. ❤️
the only paralel that was intended that I could tel is the generational connection ,,, abuse and trauma come in many forms whether it be physical abuse , sexual abuse .. or emotional abuse such as a father driving his son to succeed and not giving him the approval he needs
😂 how did AU/RA say it... don't put ideas in my head 😂 be careful when might come across that and think well gee that sounds like fun let's do that😂😂😂😂 because I can totally see him doing that
No, no, you'll spot a number of references to previous work. Not just direct references either. You'll recognise snippets of melody, certain ways of pronunciation, certain phrases, and so on.
Actually, Ren has specifically said the "damn shame" line was a direct reference to the Tale of Jenny. So we'll done that man! Personally, the goosebumps moment for me was the last line, sung in the same tune as in Part 1.
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One of the amazing statistics about human development that always gets me is this: it took us around 6,000 years to get from the wheel to the automobile, and only about 60 to get from the Wright Brothers to Apollo 11.
I like how you ended this comment. Aren't anecdotes like that fascinating?
@@TheBlackSpeed Yeah, I get kinda talkative after a few...herbal supplements, shall we say? It's not quite legal here just yet...
Haha, hey nothing wrong with that brotha.@@uncle_thulhu
Part one was ok for an introduction to money game. It was a bit simple - part 2 was my favourite musically and lyrically the message it gave. Part 3 was technical but lacking musically for me I wanted it to go more place even maybe a fast rap with the violins would have be cool
I think that parts 1 & 2 were career-defining levels of musicianship and storytelling. Part 1 is a hybrid of a micro and macro narrative with a combination of spoken word and a quasi-Motown chorus with minimal instrumentation. Part 2 is macro and, same song structure but big instrumentation. I think that the music is calibrated to the thematic content.
Part 3 goes micro and back to minimal with the instrumentation again, with a more bombastic instrument.
I don't think that Part 3 had to be made, as I think 1 & 2 are genius. But, Part 3 was a grower, for me. Third time through, I was hooked.
No, they killed screech and his dad was broke. Screech was dead by 14 and was an orphan. I am not going to go full Renegade - great reaction it is genuine to you and Ren is great for making you think and i like your thoughts. Money Game 1- because I do have a high opinion of my own morality but i do sacrifice it to fit in, like buying sweat shop Nike's ordering things in plastic bottles because its convenient - the hypocrisy. 2 - The learning of economics and how the mind of the corporate rich work/ and the way the lyric video was setup was awesome and 3- teaching me not to put too much pressure on my kids and watch what i stress is important in this world -So no, i don't have a favorite because they were all amazing. But if i had to pick a favorite order Money game 1 and then 3 and lastly 2- i loved the almost violence of number 1 lol
Great visual. But how does this stand up as music? I don't see how Ren will get air time with this? Luckily for Ren, he's not chasing that.
I sometimes believe that Ren will always be an underground artist, which is great by me. Though I now understand why many people I know don't get into Ren.
I sometimes feel like it's an exclusive club, with so much hidden stuff, that keeping up is exhausting.
I prefer Rens more vibing songs, then the RENagades fandom.
Cheers for your thoughts.🙏💙
See, and I respect that and agree with this a bit. I do think at times, you get much more into the creative side of your talents than the exposure. Like I'm going to create just for me, but I'll create for you later sort of thing. I too agree and understand how it can be difficult, both sonically listening to this and the fandom haha. It's a lot.
You are not wrong... no connection, other thsn Ren. He does use similar lyrical motifs & bridges, so yes, "...such a shame" sounds awfully similar to the end of both Jenny AND Screech.
I like Part I best, because it's live, it's original, & because it's really well-choreographed, & a near-perfect blend of rap and vocals.
I'm with you, I liked 1 and 2 the most (I think 2 is still my favorite). I get the point and purpose of 3, was just something different about it that didn't hit the same way 2 did for me. But this was visually my favorite, I'll give him that.
I thought jenny and screech for a second on first listen, but no
I like 2 on a musical level more. That said - rapping over a piano is amazing.
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Ren😊😊😊😊