@@SuperchargedLlama I got a Bayersan 11 litre one with mb-115 resin and a separate expandable hose. I tested my water at 160ppm and through the vessel it’s 000ppm. I calculated it should last about 2 years of rinsing but the water hardness tester is nice and cheap so I’ll just double check the ppm every so often. I have a black car and it dried perfectly
Any updates on how many washes you got out of one 7 litre tank ? I live in West Midlands so the water is hard , I think it’s very hard as I did check it with a ppm meter and I think it was like 150-190ppm
I think I've got harder water than that down here in Surrey but I shall check. I seem to remember it being about 250ppm. To answer your question, I've never really kept track of it but I also use it differently sometimes now. If I'm working from my van I find I fill the entire tank up with DI water, and that definitely lasts longer (because the flow rate over the resin is lower, it's just mains pressure, where as the pressure washer draws it through more quickly). It's not the easiest answer to give and it's so subjective due to how it's used.
Hey mate I'm going to buy one, but for a gravity fed system where washing pressure machine is fed by water coming from a tank, just for mobile detailing. Do you think that the filter can somehow reduce the water flow from the tank?
I've got a tip for you, use it to fill the tank instead. That's what I do. I can't imagine your getting sufficient flow if you were drawing through gravity, so you'd need to put a pump in that system.
@@SuperchargedLlama is what i wanted to exclude but....if it better suit the all system I will go and check some videos i already watched where they put a pump to "recycle" the water flow into the tank back. So you should put the water filter between the pump and the recycling flow if I ve understood....correct? I think this is reasonably. what i don't understand is how to feed the pump. Where do you take electricity, from the generator or a battery ?
@@domenicobizzarro839 I don't have a recycling flow so I can't say for sure, but for me I connect the di vessel between the mains water and then free flow in to the water tank, or if I'm on mains I just use it in line as in this video. I've been advised I'd have been better off with an 11L vessel for this as it's won't use the resin so quickly. With regards to the pump, have a Google for how the pole fed window cleaners do it, because that's how they pump their water and will therefore have much better insight and advice 👍
@@SuperchargedLlama you know what? I probably won t be able to fill the water tank from home cause i m in apartment. I'm directly thinking about leave the simple gravity fed system and fed the washing machine through an electric water pump outside the tank or even inside..... So that, with a pump that sucks water, It won t be a problem to put the Di filter in the outflaw, doesnt it? 🤷🏼
@@domenicobizzarro839 I'm out of knowledge with which to confidently advise you I'm afraid. It's definitely worth checking the pole fed window cleaners though as there is lost of info there. That's how I found out about the pumps in the first place.
I have recently got a Vyair 11.7 litre vessel, not used it yet, pre filled. My only fear is if the filter stem ever broke in the vessel, it could send some resin beads into my Kranzle K10...and that would be a very bad day... I may just use mine at the end for the final rinse. Tap...hose reel...vessel...8m of hose / nozzle.
You're right, that could happen. You'd be monsterously unlucky but it's a possibility. You could get an in-line filter like these on the outlet of your resin vessel amzn.to/3o5mcdc ?
@@SuperchargedLlama Hmm that's an option, thank you for the link. Once I've used the vessel, do I have to empty / strain the water out of it, or can the water be left in it?...it will probably get used every week or two.
A good question with an answer that's not that helpful I'm afraid: it depends. It depends on the hardness of your water, how much you use it in a wash (for example, I have it in the loop for the whole wash and I've recently started filling the wash bucket with it too). If you've got quite soft water, use it just for the final rinse and wash your car once a month then it will last you longer (although the resin will get used up even if you're just leaving it there and not using it all the time). Raceglaze have loads of information on this and are great providers of the resin and vessels (in the UK at least). Sorry that this is a really non definitive answer, but that's really how it is with this stuff.
@@SuperchargedLlama thanks mate, just hypothetically speaking if my water was soft, and I washed my car once per week and used the DI water vessel on the rinse only? Are you looking at a few washes only? Or more than that? Just trying to roughly gauge - cheers
@@cb8491 ooooh gotcha gotcha, yeah I'd say you'd be looking at 3-6months there. With the variables I mentioned it means it is harder to say more accurately than that but you're definitely looking at multiple months rather than weeks. Vessel shape has an impact as well, the short dumpy ones aren't as effective as the taller ones. So if you're looking at a 7L or 11L vessel, look for a taller variant of vessel rather one a squat one. You'll also get multiple fills from one sack of resin if you buy a....hmmmm.....what it is, 25kg? That'll do you 4-6 fills.
@@SuperchargedLlama Awesome, that doesn't sound too bad actually. I have a South facing driveway, so always have the dilemma of washing the car as early in the AM as possible before the sun comes up in order to avoid water spots. Early AM on weekend also isn't great with neighbours when I use the pressure washer, so I have to time it to perfection lol. This may be the answer! Thanks for the info and additional info regarding the vessel types, resin bag sizes etc. Appreciated 😊
@@cb8491 you're very welcome. I struggle with the same problem as you so I can empathise. This really did make the difference for me. Couple of other tips to help; make sure you run regular hose water through your pressure washer and foam lance after using it IF you've had DI water going through them too. I won't go in to the science of it but it just helps flush it out (as de-ionized water hasn't got many ions left it tries to recover them from other materials if left to sit inside the PW after use). This isn't an issue when it dries on the car as it evaporates away before any problems can arise.
I've found the MB115 from Daqua for £85 (+ P&P) which is where I bought mine from originally but yeah, raw material costs have sky rocketed. I've just bought some MB151 resin which is for hard water areas (like mine) which apparently will last longer too, so hopefully it will offset the cost increase a bit, although it costs marginally more. It's still well worth it I think, but yeah, costs of everything are going through the roof.
That's absolutely true, although it seems to be working just fine this way too in terms of not leaving waterspots. I get the same 003ppm reading both ways.
I had read that it actually uses less water through the pressure washer? I thought it would use more, but I don't think it does. Would be interesting to get clarification on that.
@@SuperchargedLlama Good idea to keep it as close to the pressure washer as possible as I've found it picks up contaminants from the inside of the hose if you have it attached close to the tap.
@@matty387 it's been easier to since I've swapped to a 15m hose for the PW as it means I can leave the PW (and the Di vessel by association) nearer the tap so can use shorter lengths of hosepipe for the loop.
Just got mine, it’s brilliant!
Excellent! Which one did you go for in the end?
@@SuperchargedLlama I got a Bayersan 11 litre one with mb-115 resin and a separate expandable hose. I tested my water at 160ppm and through the vessel it’s 000ppm. I calculated it should last about 2 years of rinsing but the water hardness tester is nice and cheap so I’ll just double check the ppm every so often. I have a black car and it dried perfectly
@@simonpj145 I've never had a single fill of the vessel last that long, although I'd probably get that out of the entire sack, yup.
@@SuperchargedLlama I’ll let you know in a couple of years!
Great video mate, what connections would I need to order with mine as I have a hozelock hose system, would it be the click and clunk, strange name lol
Yup it's the regular hose connectors 👍
Nice video, well done.
Thanks Matt, comments (especially when they are nice) are much appreciated.
Any updates on how many washes you got out of one 7 litre tank ?
I live in West Midlands so the water is hard , I think it’s very hard as I did check it with a ppm meter and I think it was like 150-190ppm
I think I've got harder water than that down here in Surrey but I shall check. I seem to remember it being about 250ppm.
To answer your question, I've never really kept track of it but I also use it differently sometimes now. If I'm working from my van I find I fill the entire tank up with DI water, and that definitely lasts longer (because the flow rate over the resin is lower, it's just mains pressure, where as the pressure washer draws it through more quickly). It's not the easiest answer to give and it's so subjective due to how it's used.
Hey mate I'm going to buy one, but for a gravity fed system where washing pressure machine is fed by water coming from a tank, just for mobile detailing. Do you think that the filter can somehow reduce the water flow from the tank?
I've got a tip for you, use it to fill the tank instead. That's what I do. I can't imagine your getting sufficient flow if you were drawing through gravity, so you'd need to put a pump in that system.
@@SuperchargedLlama is what i wanted to exclude but....if it better suit the all system I will go and check some videos i already watched where they put a pump to "recycle" the water flow into the tank back. So you should put the water filter between the pump and the recycling flow if I ve understood....correct? I think this is reasonably. what i don't understand is how to feed the pump. Where do you take electricity, from the generator or a battery
?
@@domenicobizzarro839 I don't have a recycling flow so I can't say for sure, but for me I connect the di vessel between the mains water and then free flow in to the water tank, or if I'm on mains I just use it in line as in this video. I've been advised I'd have been better off with an 11L vessel for this as it's won't use the resin so quickly.
With regards to the pump, have a Google for how the pole fed window cleaners do it, because that's how they pump their water and will therefore have much better insight and advice 👍
@@SuperchargedLlama you know what? I probably won t be able to fill the water tank from home cause i m in apartment. I'm directly thinking about leave the simple gravity fed system and fed the washing machine through an electric water pump outside the tank or even inside..... So that, with a pump that sucks water, It won t be a problem to put the Di filter in the outflaw, doesnt it? 🤷🏼
@@domenicobizzarro839 I'm out of knowledge with which to confidently advise you I'm afraid. It's definitely worth checking the pole fed window cleaners though as there is lost of info there. That's how I found out about the pumps in the first place.
I have recently got a Vyair 11.7 litre vessel, not used it yet, pre filled.
My only fear is if the filter stem ever broke in the vessel, it could send some resin beads into my Kranzle K10...and that would be a very bad day...
I may just use mine at the end for the final rinse. Tap...hose reel...vessel...8m of hose / nozzle.
You're right, that could happen. You'd be monsterously unlucky but it's a possibility. You could get an in-line filter like these on the outlet of your resin vessel amzn.to/3o5mcdc ?
@@SuperchargedLlama Hmm that's an option, thank you for the link. Once I've used the vessel, do I have to empty / strain the water out of it, or can the water be left in it?...it will probably get used every week or two.
@@23hublock1 tip it a bit so some of the water pours out of the outlet. When you empty it all the remaining water will run out with the resin anyway.
@@23hublock1 I feel like I should make a video on changing the resin when I get to it next time.
Thanks for the video, how many washes do you get out of this before you have to replace the resin? (If you have to replace the resin at all?)
A good question with an answer that's not that helpful I'm afraid: it depends.
It depends on the hardness of your water, how much you use it in a wash (for example, I have it in the loop for the whole wash and I've recently started filling the wash bucket with it too). If you've got quite soft water, use it just for the final rinse and wash your car once a month then it will last you longer (although the resin will get used up even if you're just leaving it there and not using it all the time).
Raceglaze have loads of information on this and are great providers of the resin and vessels (in the UK at least).
Sorry that this is a really non definitive answer, but that's really how it is with this stuff.
@@SuperchargedLlama thanks mate, just hypothetically speaking if my water was soft, and I washed my car once per week and used the DI water vessel on the rinse only? Are you looking at a few washes only? Or more than that? Just trying to roughly gauge - cheers
@@cb8491 ooooh gotcha gotcha, yeah I'd say you'd be looking at 3-6months there. With the variables I mentioned it means it is harder to say more accurately than that but you're definitely looking at multiple months rather than weeks.
Vessel shape has an impact as well, the short dumpy ones aren't as effective as the taller ones. So if you're looking at a 7L or 11L vessel, look for a taller variant of vessel rather one a squat one. You'll also get multiple fills from one sack of resin if you buy a....hmmmm.....what it is, 25kg? That'll do you 4-6 fills.
@@SuperchargedLlama Awesome, that doesn't sound too bad actually. I have a South facing driveway, so always have the dilemma of washing the car as early in the AM as possible before the sun comes up in order to avoid water spots. Early AM on weekend also isn't great with neighbours when I use the pressure washer, so I have to time it to perfection lol. This may be the answer! Thanks for the info and additional info regarding the vessel types, resin bag sizes etc. Appreciated 😊
@@cb8491 you're very welcome. I struggle with the same problem as you so I can empathise. This really did make the difference for me.
Couple of other tips to help; make sure you run regular hose water through your pressure washer and foam lance after using it IF you've had DI water going through them too. I won't go in to the science of it but it just helps flush it out (as de-ionized water hasn't got many ions left it tries to recover them from other materials if left to sit inside the PW after use). This isn't an issue when it dries on the car as it evaporates away before any problems can arise.
Bloody hell the cost of resin has jumped up by a ridiculous amount since this video was uploaded. £95+ P&P just for the resin is a lot!
I've found the MB115 from Daqua for £85 (+ P&P) which is where I bought mine from originally but yeah, raw material costs have sky rocketed. I've just bought some MB151 resin which is for hard water areas (like mine) which apparently will last longer too, so hopefully it will offset the cost increase a bit, although it costs marginally more.
It's still well worth it I think, but yeah, costs of everything are going through the roof.
@Supercharged Llama Detailing Hi mate. Just watching all your videos. 👍. Any up date on what resin is best for hard water areas as I'm at 475ppm.
You will get better results not using the pressure washer , the slower the water gets pulled through the resin the better
That's absolutely true, although it seems to be working just fine this way too in terms of not leaving waterspots. I get the same 003ppm reading both ways.
I had read that it actually uses less water through the pressure washer? I thought it would use more, but I don't think it does. Would be interesting to get clarification on that.
@@SuperchargedLlama Good idea to keep it as close to the pressure washer as possible as I've found it picks up contaminants from the inside of the hose if you have it attached close to the tap.
@@matty387 it's been easier to since I've swapped to a 15m hose for the PW as it means I can leave the PW (and the Di vessel by association) nearer the tap so can use shorter lengths of hosepipe for the loop.
@@SuperchargedLlama Yea, that longer hose is a fine upgrade 👌🏼