Flock Audio: PATCH System Walkthrough
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Watch a detailed walkthrough of the Flock Audio PATCH System by Flock Audio's CEO & Founder Darren Nakonechny. The PATCH System is the worlds most advanced digitally controlled 100% analog audio patch bay routing system for pro audio engineers.
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This patch is amazing..just love the way it integrates with my daw...the routines are straight forward..this a must have😊
Thank you! That is our mission! 🙌
This is such an awesome product. Please add network capability in the future. I could move a rack to all my tracking rooms. I see this as the ultimate way to control all inputs and outputs everywhere in the facility
You honestly deserve a innovation award for this. I just got the 64 and it saves me so much time but also unleashes endless tonal and creative possibilities. Amazing work Congrats to you and your team. This is revolutionary!
Thank you so much! 🙂
duuuuuudddde!!!! I wish I had never clicked on this link! This is phenomenal and blows my patch system out da water! well done
I'm the exception to most people as I'm a complete beginner to audio synthesis and music production just looking at hardware/software capabilities and between digital/analog this is one of the better innovations for creativity that has been done in all of music. It just makes sense (not talking down the technical feats at all as there is a lot that goes into this kind of routing) to be able to make modular changes in this manner. Before I discovered this invention, I had the mind's idea of a plugboard operator when phones had to be routed, only it's a digital "brain" working for you. That led me to the discovery of patch bays but they were still severely limited in terms of automation and the physical capabilities of manually manipulating analog sound. I found the Korg Volca FM and found a similar way of splitting their audio wavelength modifiers into various orders they called "Algorithms," so I knew somebody somewhere had to have created a proprietary solution for all analog hardware akin to something of a digital GUI and firmware. Can't wait to buy one someday!
It's pricey, but damn it solves about a million problems for me, so it's well worth it. I will be buying one very soon. Bravo Darren on a great, modern routing solution!
This is THE MOST INCREDIBLE piece of gear I have EVER seen!
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
This is one of the most awesome things ever devised!
At first, I thought it was pricey, but considering how many problems this solves, it can cut costs in buying extra hardware and interfaces with too many unnecessary inputs. One could save 500-1k on an I interface with less inputs, not have to buy a monitor controller/switcher ($400+ for a decent one) to save outputs on the interface, etc etc etc, not to mention the obvious conveniences. Basically, if someone wanted a Lynx 16, they might now get away with a Lynx 8 if they're not doing husge, love seessions. Similarly, an Apollo x8 can then be downgraded to an x6, so on and so forth. You could use a regular patch bay, but that is cumbersome when you want to just create.
I'd hate to add a feature request for something so great, but here it is to make it even more badass:
For an update to the software, I'd add the ability to add notes and pictures, to help remember recall of hardware settings. So, basically at least a simple text note and an image gallery you can drop images to for each preset, or a more complex note where you can put text and images into the same note (almost how Evernote would work on your phone).
For the images, a user can then take photos of their hardware and crop them on their phone, transfer to the computer, and then drag and drop them into the software.
This system is already perfect it seems, but a way to help users recall their hardware info would be even more amazing.
Oh yeah.. A way to back-up and export the notes would be cool too. Who knows.. Maybe even Evernote (or other cross-platform note system) integration.. might be going a bit too far, but since I'm on a roll lol 😂.. Who knows.. Maybe Evernote (or other) would even help you do this, as they might then start integrating Evernote into other systems. Whatever the case, with something like Evernote, a user could do all the notes and pics on their phone and save them to the cloud, without having to do much transferring back and forth to the computer.
Can you please specify in the new video how to actually CONNECT and ADD hardware into the software setup. Im looking forward in watching the actual video of you making those connections in the video. THANKS! Great product, but a lot to learn. At this time its really hard to understand the hardware side of this product!
They dont have anything showing the set up.
Hi Rob! We don't have any video connection guides yet but we do have easy to follow "PDF Versions" of how the system connects together in various configurations here on our website under our downloads section: www.flockaudio.com/downloads
fuckn great stuff! but the price :((
This is like a far out dream or something. Very awesome system. Do you have a video showing the cabling set up?
Hi Tom, thank you! We don't have a video yet of the cabling setup yet but we do have a lot of great PDF Diagrams that help put the PATCH Systems physical connections into perspective for first time users! You can see them all here: www.flockaudio.com/downloads 🙂
So where do u actually plug up the gear ? 🔌 I’m confused
You connect your analog hardware to the PATCH Series Hardware! Check out our HOW TO SETUP YOUR PATCH Series Video on our UA-cam channel for more detailed information! 🙂
The future
At first view looks like it could be great!
Can you adjust latency or hardware delay using this patchbay?
There is no latency when using PATCH because there is no AD/DA conversion in the system. :)
Great piece of gear.
Can a reverb be used over multiple paths?
Of course! You can Mult over as many available I/O Paths as you have available on your PATCH Hardware!
I use an apogee ensemble thunderbolt in a dangerous dbox plus…. Would I be able to integrate this into my summing chain?
Absolutely you could! - Contact us at www.flockaudio.com/support and we'd be more than happy to help recommend the best setup for your studio! We also have great Diagram resources here on how to setup, with a DBOX and Summing www.flockaudio.com/resources 🙂
Crikey ... I was just about to buy more TT patchbays .... why did I not think of this? And why did it take me 4 years to find this video? Why? WHY? .... LOL
Better late than never! 🙂
I think I may have misunderstood something when this was announced: Is it possible to sum multiple channels to, say, one buss compressor in this unit?
Hi Angelo, Thanks for contacting us at Flock Audio! To answer your question PATCH is not a summing unit. You can take any 1 audio source signal and "Mult" it to all other 31 available outputs if you choose. PATCH is a routing system for analog audio, it does not perform channel summing.
Thanks for your reply! I was hoping for the unit to do a Brauer-style multi-buss approach, where I can send any channel to any buss, reverb, effect, etc.. Is this possibly doable in a software product or should I look elsewhere altogether?
But! If you have a summing box like the Dangerous for and example, I think you could bus from your DAW input thru your interface into the Patch System, process those stems differentially, then have multiple outputs from the Patch System into your summing mixer; then take the summing mixer's output back into the Patch System for processing your master bus.
I probably shouldn't interject, but ... If you have an interface with multiple outputs, just use multiple buses/ auxes in your DAW routed to different individual or pairs of those outputs. The terminology and setup is slightly different in different DAWs, but AFAIK they all will permit this. After those interface outputs are assigned as inputs in the Patch System, you can set up your Brauerized processing within the Patch System. You now make your changes for individual tracks by assigning them to different buses/ auxes in your DAW.
Couldn't have said it better ourselves! Thanks for your providing your input! :)
I'm curious about the limitations in using multiple units.
Is there a limit on how many channels we can send between two Flock units at a given time?
You can send as many or as little amount of I/O between units as you require for your setup. If you visit (www.flockaudio.com/downloads) we have a PDF available of a Multi-Unit Setup Example.
is 8 the maximum units possible at the same time?
.... please do not hide the search option when you scroll down! this can be a pain in the ass for long lists!!
We've already fixed that the search bar is fixed at the top doing scrolling :)
Do I need to have 64 I/O interface to utilize the Flock Audio patchbay?
You can use any Interface with the PATCH Series! It all is dependent on how much I/O you need for your AD/DA conversion and outboard gear! We have some very helpful diagrams available here: www.flockaudio.com/resources and if you need further assistance our support team will be happy to help! 🙂
How does this compare to the Tegeler?
The Tegeler Konnektor is a different form of analog routing design compared to PATCH with different features and I/O. Sonically both options are transparent and provide reliable analog routing for users. Tegeler is a great a manufacturer and it really just comes down to the need of the user.
Mychal Simka its better
How many paths are possible with the software? Is it possible to change the matrix shown in the video to shorten the chains but increase the number of paths?
Hi DF, The chains or empty slots aren't activate or representing any processing unless a digital rack is dropped into the slot space. So you can make them as short or as long as you have the amount of gear connected to your system! There are 32 Paths total! :)
Perfect! That was what I was hoping for.
I’m very interested in this unit, but How is this an “Analog” Patch bay? Is this unit ready to ship?
Yes Units are shipping!
Hi Grupo, it is also Analog because there is ZERO AD/DA Conversion built into the PATCH System so each signal is 100% analog travelling through the System.
@@FlockAudio Do you publish the noise and dynamic range specs? Does it use Relay matrix or FPGA or what?
Let's say I have about 35 or more analogue gears, can I use two or three Flock Patch bays on the same computer?
Use upwards to 8 PATCH Systems all connected to the same Computer with 1 single instance of the PATCH APP Software.
@@FlockAudio Wow that's good news. I'm really glad I'll no longer have to worry about thos short annoying cables anymore.
I have an Antelope 32 + with an external patch for all my hardware, and using Cubase as a Daw. I have so many questions about this system... Because I can't see how it could work for me or if I even need the Antelope anymore. If I find the way, this looks like an amazing piece to upgrade my system. I'll definately check it out!
Visit www.flockaudio.com/support and let us know how we can help you get setup with a PATCH Series System! Our Team will be more than happy to assist. You can also quickly reference various setup diagrams here on our Resources page: www.flockaudio.com/resources 🙂
Yes, you'll still need the Antelope to convert your DAW audio to analog and vice versa. This product is just like a normal patchbay but better.
I really don't think there is anything wrong with the price. This product directly solves a lot of troublesome problems, it is worth it.
Where the HELL has this been all my life?
I have a question about hardware setup - with a regular patchbay the normalled connections you make when you hook your equipment to the rear are super important because this creates the basic patch workflow...how does this play out with Patch? Do I need to follow any kind of logic when connecting my ins/outs or it doesn't really matter since I can configure everything using the software?
Hi HandHeldSound, You are correct! Normalling, Half-Normalling etc. are all irrelevant when using the PATCH System because you make all the necessary routing choices and configurations using the PATCH APP Software, which adds more flexibility options for your routing needs!
What the Flock! That takes all the fun out of crawling behind your counsel/desk/rack and buying a shit ton of patch bays/cables huh??? Sign me up, pretty pricey though I better buy more outboard gear to give me a reason to need one.
If I have an Apollo x16 and am using the AES in/out for my Burl DA/AD converters, can they be patched in for making a mastering chain? They’d be in/out 19-20 on UAD Console.
Please contact us at www.flockaudio.com/support and we'll be happy to help answer your questions regarding setup! 🙂
Any issues with running unbalanced synth signals into the patchbay? I suppose I could use DI's in front before going in.. This has always been the hazy part for me..
Hi Ernest, PATCH is a +4 Professional Line Level design, so yes we'd recommend that if you are experiencing a low signal from the synths that a DI or equivalent booster would produce a better signal result from the Synth into PATCH. :)
Flock Audio Thank you, can’t wait to pick one up!!
Anytime Ernest! :)
Is it possible to bus signals from 2 paths to 1input?
btw great unit!
Hi, PATCH Can take any incoming signal and split it between multiple output signals using our Multing Feature!
@@FlockAudio that's not what the person is asking, he/she is asking if it's possible to MERGE 2 chains into one path, not MULT in this case, which could basically mean that you can sum signals into one input, is it possible?
Hi Marco, you are referring to "Summing" signals together when combining 2 signals into 1 output. PATCH does not perform summing.
Hello, will the app work via a secondary networked touch screen tablet, such as iPad?
Sooner than you think! 🙂
@Darren. What brand of cables do you recommend please?
Thanks!
Hi Erik, most DB-25/D-SUB Snake Manufacturers with the Tascam DB25 Pinout will work just fine, but we like to recommend the Mogami Gold brand 👍🏻
Wonderful stuff...love it
can it be controlled via iPad app?
iPad and iPhone! 📱
Ok! How does the workflow goes with pro tools hd?
Please contact us at www.flockaudio.com/support and we'll happy to walk you through it 🙂
How would this go in and out of analog gear without conversion? So you wouldn’t need extra converters?
Zero additional converters required and zero latency. Because PATCH is a 100% analog signal path but digitally controlled, there is no AD/DA built into the system which doesn't convert or change your analog signal path. :)
I see you plan a forum ... but in the meantime I have some questions as I prepare to order cabling and 'think' through my setup.I see that I can delink the rack i/0 but that the delinked i/o continues to display by the same rack number.
So, if I route my preamps' output as 'in' to a specific rack and have the output routed on the same rack to an analog output from my interface, would I still be able to route that delinked input to any other available rack detached from the delinked output, i.e., pulling it into a path by itself while still being able to use the delinked output later in the path or in another path entirely?
Hi DF, This would be best answered by a member of our support team! Can you send your inquiry either on our website (www.flockaudio.com) or email it directly to support@flockaudio.com :) We'd be glad to help assist you!
FWIW tech support told me that delinked pairs can be individually routed in any manner that you like as long as they maintain their function as either an input or an output. So the answer to my question is, "Yes!"
Can be used along with a toft audio console?
It can be used with any type of analog audio console 🙂
Flock Audio thank you!🙏🏻
Is Malting (not sure if it’s spelled correctly). But is Malting Canadian for side chaining ?
"Multing" is actually a patch bay term for "Multiple". The feature can be used for parallel processing, side-chaining etc depending on your outboard hardware and application.