DRC Conflict I SADC meeting outcomes: Dr Kingsley Makhubela
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- The Rwandan government says it rejects the accusations against the Rwanda Defence Force made by the Extraordinary Summit of the Southern African Development Community, held in Harare, Zimbabwe, this past Friday.
In a statement released yesterday, Rwanda further stated that it supports a political solution to the ongoing war in the eastern part of Democratic Republic of Congo.
Tensions between the South African and the Rwandan Governments heightened after 14 South African National Defence Force soldiers were killed in the eastern part of the DRC.
To discuss what this means for the ongoing conflict in the DRC, we are joined virtually by Doctor Kingsley Makhubela, Risk analyst and former diplomat.
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SADCA should first help DRC government to govern their country effectively rather blaming other people..
Another Rwandan bot 🤖
@@TodaTruththank you
Maybe stick within ur own poor border before trying to capitalise other peoples rich minerals
@@iceyz1 your funny. How has the rich minerals been used by Congo government to develope its people. 120 rebel groups in Congo. Thats a sign of a typical failed state. DRC government is the worst government in Africa. It should be ashamed of its self.
Thank you Dr Kingsley for being fair.
Dr Kingsley Makhubela thank you, you are right.
The question is how many FDLR have they catch so far since capturing Goma ? Rwandan government survived on the facts that medias like SABC back their little sorry. This analysis is very objective. Tshisekedi attended online the meeting in Harare.
They are not after FDLR because they know it's a spent force.
Do you know the names of the prominent FDLR? If you knew them, you would know that they are being snipped out, literally killed by snipers on the battle field. The none prominent ones are being returned to Rwanda if they capitulate or they just get killed on the battle field.
Answer is zero... They don't exist!!
One of their top commander was killed
What about our influence in the regions?
Any soldiers sign in knowing the risk so that what they sign for.
Kagame should keep off DRC affairs completely! We want DRC to prosper for the benefit of the whole continent! 🌍
Well say bro
How does one use Rwanda as an excuse while using genocide perpetrators as his army against his own citizens. This world is evil beyond belief. How does the international community listen to this and deem it trust worthy.
Some of us don't believe corrupt leaders. The track records don't lie.
@@edreezyforreezy This invasion of DRC land by Rwanda is against international law.
Drc should be in charge of its affairs then.
SA must remain in SADC,
This man is a well informed man and unbiased 🫡
Thank you South Africa to stand with DRC
The Former General of Rwanda Intelligence on Newzroom explained it so well. This one says they must suck up to a bully. Time for the West to support SADC and categorically tell Kagame to get out of Congo.
What do you expect from a diserter ?
He has to turnish the face of the government accusing him some crimes
@@AmaniInfoWe only heard truths from the so call deseter😂
@@AmaniInfohe spoke the truth no tarnishing. Rwandese who came to uganda claim part of uganda is there's why after the genocide you did not return to Rwanda causing chaos, robbing murders
General finished all your plans, is a Tutsi who talk a truth
Calling for the west😂😂😂😂 south africa is still colonized
South Africa should send a message our dignity is a stake
YOU HEARD THE MAN.... IT WAS NOT A PEACE KEEPING MISSION AND YOUR SOLDIERS SURRENDERED THERE!
Doctor for the first time you make me happy
At list
So please go deep down to find out the origine of the comflit
You will find that out own hospitality as brought this problem
We should denied them camp of refugees
But because we give shelter now they start claiming the land in wich the tant is build is theirs now!!
Who are the refugees here ,Do u have them in Sa
SADC is not in the DRC for peacekeeping; it is there to support the Congolese government in fighting M23 and, in collaboration with the FDLR, to work against President Kagame. Meanwhile, South African leaders position themselves arrogantly toward Rwanda, but Rwanda remains steadfast in defending its sovereignty and its people against any destabilization attempts.
We are not far from the tragic events of 1994, when the genocide against the Tutsi occurred while so-called powerful nations remained silent. Instead of relying on military force, dialogue should be the priority. If not, Rwanda will stand firm in protecting its people and the Kinyarwanda-speaking Congolese.
To the people of South Africa: Urge your leaders to negotiate with M23 for the sake of those now under their control. Do not be misled into a false sense of superiority. I appreciate the insights shared by the invited speaker-South African leaders should listen and act with respect.
We stand for Rwanda and its people.
You are a pathetic person, just as bad as Kagame if not worst…keep supporting your dictator, you will all be accountable for supporting such as an evil man, with deceitful narrative. His government never been frightened by the DRC, in order to continue his looting he has to hung to his lies. How on earth has he got a deal with the European Union for minerals sells when your country possess none… ZERO!!! Wake up!! You are governed by an evil president who not only kill his own but not ashamed to cross borders to kill his neighbours for his own profit .
You ( Rwanda) are first to put your nose into others political affairs and then play the victim cards…you are so cruel that one of your son has caused such a horrendous massacre of innocent young girls in the uk…just like he was taught by his elders. A nation that hates his own brothers( Hutus) and was ready to mutilate each other in the eyes of all the nations and you are here talking about the genocides of Tutsi in the DRC? I was there and witnessed the cruelty and mistreatment of your so called liberators in the DRC. They treated us like animals ripping women’s cloths along with the skin using machetes or any other sharp object. You are so cruel!!!! Never seen a nation like yours in my entire existence.
Problem is kagame plan
Everyone has become a Rwanda expert😂
Long live M23 ❤at least you're chasing away those Marcenaries and bringing Honor to our Africa 🌍 DRC government is corrupted. Freedom fighters M23
What is SADC doing there, Congo is Eastern and Central region of Africa, it does not border or near South Africa, let the AU take its role, SADC Countries are Only worsening Situation ...
Had sadc refused to be used by Tsishiked and maintain the presence of East African force .This conflict would be no more.
He can freely step down if he love peace
Rwanda deserves to be free from the grip of Kagame’s dictatorship-enough is enough! Our people have suffered and lost their lives for no reason. If Kagame has an issue with Congo, he should address it through legitimate means like elections, rather than backing rebels who bring death and destruction to our people. There’s no need for endless SADC meetings to debate what’s already clear. Our soldiers are surrounded and in a dire situation-why aren’t we taking action to protect and save them? It’s time to stand up and do what’s right for our people and the region.
They are surrounded because they aren’t in their country😂 they are foreigners
Hhhh, I am Rwandan, but what you are talk it's like you are doing propagand because Kagame is Our president its not yours, and there is no dictatorship in countryside.
Stop your nonsense.
What do you mean by your people's which country are in ??????
@@JuliusSemakula-d2z You just don't know the meaning of that word nonsense because if you did, you would just look at yourself and you will definitely see what you are referring to, very useless you are to be led by a stupid guy for more than 20 years like you can't think for yourself and at the end of the day he is showing his dictatorship nature by invading another country using proxy so-called militia shame on you man, Rwandans are in South Africa because of what? fool
@@JuliusSemakula-d2z You just don't know the meaning of that word nonsense because if you did, you would just look at yourself and you will definitely see what you are referring to, very useless you are to be led by a stupid guy for more than 20 years like you can't think for yourself and at the end of the day he is showing his dictatorship nature by invading another country using proxy so-called militia shame on you man, Rwandans are in South Africa because of what? fool
South african soldiers are fighting alongside side the genocides its not exceptable😢
How they keep lying that it is 15 solders,
This politics 😭🤮
More than 56 solders and they are still looking for some that they didn't find there Bodies 😭
We are a democracy and not a dictatorship like you small coffee farm you call rwanda. The families would have spoken a long time ago coupled with our robust media, ask yourself why all your politicians can come an give interviews on our media but the same cannot be said about your coffee farm😂😂😂
SA is 14, Malawi 2 n Tanzania 1 the other is M23
Did they tel you M23 has more loss😳
@PumlaNzima whatever the case is we are fighting for our rights our human rights our survival our identity our homeland...
We don't fear death..we are not panicking because we will not have any issue of bringing our remains at home!!
Because we are at home!!
sure it is over 50 soldiers died there!!
South Africa has an ambiguous foreign policy for the past 15 to 20 years. South Africa was in Lesotho and DRC twice. However those were not the only problems in SADC if principles were applied. However with regard to Namibia, the legitimate President is deceased and the President in place has not been elected as is customary the case (legally). The recently held elections in Namibia are at courts. So you can see Namibia is not in a position to make war while there are fundamental differences amongst citizens on legitimacy. It therefore has nothing to do with the previous experience, but Namibia will never send soldiers amidst these.
So Namibia is useless in SADC😂
The Government of Congo has been very quiet on this matter. It would be interesting to hear their concerns and side of the story.
Conflict in Africa had now been perpetuated for a very long time. The eastern DRC is an open wound in Africa! Will Africa reach the maturity to solve conflict and silence the guns in Africa? Whether Ruanda and M23 are God's angels or the Devil's spawn, there are civilized (?) ways to solve conflict. Peace fires must be lit! The Church in Africa MUST be ambassadors for peace ... unless Christians had lost mastery of the Gospel of Peace?
SADC should not left Congo alone this fighting is not just Rwanda.
It’s not the matter of equipments , it a battle of live or die and M23 is ready give that sacrifice for their straggle and the question is if the other side including SA willing to sacrifice to stop the children of Congo to turn back to the homeland
It is a matter of equipment
Fair enough 😂😂
What I don’t understand is the why is Tshisekedi not wanting to have negotiations, yet he wants to SADC to defend his weak FARDC, for an example if he sat down with the M23 and talked about their grievances because it’s causing the people of DRC to suffer how much more do they need to pay for lives with.
If the government in Kinshasa wanted its citizens to be free and peaceful he would make diplomatic concessions to end this madness.
What I don’t understand is the why is Tshisekedi not wanting to have negotiations, yet he wants to SADC to defend his weak FARDC, for an example if he sat down with the M23 and talked about their grievances because it’s causing the people of DRC to suffer how much more do they need to pay for lives with.
If the government in Kinshasa wanted its citizens to be free and peaceful he would make diplomatic concessions to end this madness.
No worries this Rwanda president is sick and I don't know why all african country can't see this guy is been used by European and other countries to support to fight while they're busy looting all the minerals in goma mxm
Can someone explain to me what the South African troops are doing at the Rwandan border and allying with genocidal rebels and corrupted DRC troops who want to overthrow the Kigali Government?
I think South Africa was ill-informed, and it ended up in an inter-ethnic war that never ends as long as the Congolese government is corrupt, disorganized, and not accepting all its citizens.
Only a political dialogue and mediation can solve the Eastern Congo’s civil war.
Nonsense and foolish statement.
M23 and fdlr all are kagame tools.
@fmsecret5635 just answer the questions
Just do more research (you are ill-informed ) - info is available online. Read US expert reports on DRC and the Great lake region, M23 and the looting of mineral resources in the DRC.
DRC. The ANC government in SA is lying about the deployment of troops on a peacekeeping mission.The word on the streets is that they were there to guard a mine that Ramaphosa and his brother in law Patrice Motsepe (the richest man in SA) either already had an interest in or wanted to aquire. These troops were not equipped, they had no proper uniforms, boots, food or water. It is the first time in the history of SA that troops willingly surrendered by hoisting a white flag. It is comment knowledge that SA does NOT have a functioning defense force. The once proud SA Army is no more, feared on the continent of Africa only to now be the tragic laughing stock of the world. A excellent example of how the rest of the country has been destroyed by the ANC in less than 30 years. These "troops" are no more than stragglers in gumboots. It is an international scandal.
It doesn't matter as we speak women and children are suffering getting raped sleeping hungry no education, someone has to step up n be there
It's time for Tchisekedi to have a political dialogue with M23 and stop denialing their existence in Rdc. Otherwise the war will never end since it's their land and have no where else to go.
Yes sir this wasn't peace keeping missions
M23..Rwanda...Israeli...Uganda....USA..South Africa..Russia...DRC..Mercenaries..Burundi FDLR...we heading for Disaster
Tell us about mercenaries and FDRL as well. The Interviewer need to Invite Andrew Mwenda to have a balanced understanding!
Congolese army is in their land and they can anything they wanna in their territory
@@fabricekabeya7184but the mercenaries are prohibited by the international humanitarian law! So but because they fighting along side SA+genocide pepetraters(FDLR) no one is there to talk to them
But before talking of the problem knowbits history
We can’t ignore that South African keep a lot of people who are preparing regime changes in Kigali…. So it’s sensitive to see their soldiers on border of country
If I were South African, I would first research how the current President of DRC came to power, his policies, and who he surrend himself with and really is Corneil Naanga to Felix Tshisekedi, what is the link between them than asked myself, "Shall my brothers die for this president?"
Plz do remember also to mention 15 Rwandan civilians who died and hundreds severely injured by shellings from goma to gisenyi by the coalition!
Even if M23 was Rwandan .How does one country defeat so many countries ? Huh ? Why didnt you fight instead of scare tactics .Why didnt you ask Rwanda to stop M23 from the beginning ? Now you cry dont you ?
I think there is one important thing that people need to accept. Armed conflicts like the Goma conflict in DRC results in casualties on both the rebels and the government side. Expect casualties in such a war. It is very much possible that the rebels suffered more casualties than the SADC forces.
As long as you are still taking side you will not solve the problem you see congolese here writing that they don’t have tutsi tribe in congo and you can’t make any research you can’t visit any refugee camp of congolese to see who is there you are playing politics not helping
Tutsi think they are very clever on what they are doing. Off recent Tutsi deposited it's population in a thousand per day from Rwanda to Congo (Rutsuru, Masisi, Sake) to fulfill Kagame dream that there will be referendum in Eastern Congo and they will vote in high number to claims victory.
The area known today as Goma was part of the Kingdom of Hunde when the Belgians arrived in DRC. There is no record of any Tutsi there. When the Belgians colonised the Hunde and other local tribes, they wrote about how they are bringing Tutsi into the area from Rwanda to help with labour. Tutsi are Rwandan. That area was the Kingdom of Hunde. This is well documented by the Belgians.
@@JoeLowilthe used ubwenge mean lies , they master of lie, they come from Ethiopia ,they even stole Rwanda from hutus..they trying to do the samething in congo, but i blame our goverment
@@ntakirutimanavalens4412Any other nation is welcome in DRC as long as there’s no obscure agenda to balkanise that part of the region and that’s exactly what Kagame is trying to fulfill and that’s not acceptable. I as a Congolese went to school and still have Tutsi friends, there’s never been any issue, never looked at them any different. Kagame and those who support his looting in the DRC are the problem here.
@tharcisseofficial you are correct bro. No one can fight the truth.
Even the Ambassador does not understand the historical context.
As a South African citizen, South African SANDF is not in the DRC for peace keeping but to serve an interest of the west that are busy looting Africa's minerals.
The congo ruler shouldn’t be allowed to behave like spoiled b. Time for him to grow up and behave responsibly, because foreign powers can’t keep cleaning up after him indefinitely.
Kagame,Museveni and Netanyahu they belong to same whatsapp group.
Great leaders indeed
@tumwebazehannington9403 Killers
Kagame is not a warlord? He ascended to power through war.
It's okay social media will help them to get to route cause. And find solutions.... the young got a challenge to dig
Which peace talks,? if what happened in Congo happened to south Africa, would you say that? Very selfish mindset
DRC president has to make peace with his own people in M23 and his neighbours, uganda and Rwanda,
but his arrogant he said he will never sit at the same table with M23
@@papitoenza2675then the conflicts will not end,it's like his govt benefits from the conflicts
@@papitoenza2675 How can you sit with criminals, rapers and thieves of minerals??
Problem is kagame, he always creates a rebel group and support them to destabilise east of Congo
@@papitoenza2675tshisekedi want to sit face to face with kagame coz is a one who support ds rebels
Please check flight radar 24 flights K3928 and K3929. Zambia is also a transit point to this flight, which is serviced every 7 days.
Coleteral damage 💔 😢
Why are this journalism just mentions only Sadc troops and DRC troops that were attacked by m23 leaving the FDLR out
M23 is kagame = Rwanda
Ramaphosa+Kisekedi+ndayishimiye+kayumba nyamwasa=FDLR
Tell them
@@Benizungu7774That's not true even you know that but that's what we've come to know you rwandans.
🙊SADF are prisoners of M23..... can only leave through Rwanda airport....🙊🙊🙊
the truth will win and wait for the time explain
This is the waist of money ,our country South Africa cause tger is a lot that needs to be done for the South African community.
You too u are south African?
M23 is Kagame leader
So what????
@@Brave15157someone looks like u in Sophie's INTERVIEW denying everything 😂😂😂
@@Brave15157bravemanin keyboard 😂😂😂
Effective and sensible leadership must needs look into issues through correct lenses & address the root causes in order to cure the sores, in failure of which, everyone may name and shame any scapegoat, shifting blames but the ills remain & will surely erupt sometime. As Africans and aspiring pan-Africanists, it is important to avoid partisan politics in our efforts to solve the problems of our fellow human beings and our African brothers and sisters. Otherwise, wars and chaos will endure to our shame.
South Africa is a hub of people whose plan is instability in Rwanda, and you see South African troops on Rwandan borders with deadly weapons pointing to Rwanda.
15 civilians including children of Rwanda have been killed by the missiles flying from DRC specifically SOUTH AFRICA AND DRC troops.
You should be asking, what is the DRC government (who is responsible for the security of their country) doing
South African should be ashamed to have worked with fdlr it's like we haved worked with the apartheid government ,how would you feel?
Exactly
Can you tell this so called dr to stop lying. Tshisekedi and Kenyatta started the Nairobi agreement which invited all rebel groups, all of them showed up than m23 didn’t show up because it would have been their end. Then there is the Luanda agreement that Kagame didn’t show up on the day they were supposed to sign agreements that would end m23 and Rwandan army reign in the DRC, Kagame didn’t show you fool.
To the journalist, please invite someone who knows about all this because this uninformed person has no idea what he is talking about.
M23 is not a problem, the problem is DRC government doesn’t want to settle what they fighting for, problem is simple I don’t why always DRC accuse Rwanda in their own problems, Rwanda have a problem with FDLR who are committed in genocide again Tutsi in Rwanda, and DRC instead of handling this problem are engaging them in DRC Army force, SA is there with own president interest not for SA government
No why not kgagame apologize, why must ramaphosa go there... nooo.. kgagame has just went too far and he must be treated as such going forward
What is the role of Broadcasting (radio,television??) I become angry when I see your communication but no commitment for doing the research of sources, why you can not visit Rwanda and DRC to find proof of this war?? Even now Rwanda receiving the refugees then after one year ,DRC will say is not Congolese
This is an offensive mission not peacekeeping this is war soldiers die in war.
M23 are Congolese ❤️🇨🇩.
No matter what we know that SA hate Rwandese and Rwanda 🇷🇼.but it's none of our business.
M23 are purely rwandans🇷🇼
Stop envying our DRC🇨🇩 because you 🇷🇼 lack precious minerals in your land ( Rwanda)
Stop your lies !!!
Ukweli ya mambo ni kagame penda usipo penda nayote yata lipwa siku moja.
Rwanda has always sought a peaceful resolution. Ramaphosa and Tshisekedi are the ones who wrongfully think they can win this war. They continue to lose battles. Kinshasa needs to sit down with M23 and address the root causes of this conflict.
The SAMDRC was the fighting M23 not peace keeping that is why the SAs people shouldn't not be confused.
The South Africa soldiers on the ground should start negotiating with the M23 because the Congolese government is not ready to meet the M23.
I disagree with this Dr he doesn't seem to know president Paul Kagame. Once, Paul Kagame feels offended it is very hard to change his mind.
South Africa fed a dog and it bit the very hand that fed it, the Ramaphosa nightmare just keeps on devastating us.
Pls show some respect to dogs, paul is worse😂
Which peace is this Dr talking of in DRC? The chapters he is talking of are useless? You will never be able to defeat people fighting for their country. M23 is fighting for its people, for its land, for its resources, you will never defeat them on DRC soil. SA should bring back its children home, both fallen and living soldiers should be withdrawn from DRC and returned back in SA. SA must stand down and withdraw from DRC.
M23 are purely rwandans 🇷🇼.
stop your lies!!!
Kagame is jealous to see Congolese land full of minerals ( coltan,gold, diamond,uranium ...etc) meanwhile the land of Rwanda 🇷🇼 doesn't have minerals at all,this the real fact.
Congo 🇨🇩 is for Congolese alone.
South africa is not scared of rwanda is just that our troops are under sadc and UN let war be declared you will swe what is going to happen is not going to be jungle battles the war is going straight to Kigali you will regret everything will go down with you you naive
@@RachelleKioto go and check the history you will find the truth
@niyibizipatrick5776 Which history are you talking about ?
The Congo 🇨🇩 people are fully bantou not nilotique you should know it.
If your land🇷🇼 is lacking precious minerals ,don't blame Congolese .
We should not die because of our wealth.
Stop your jealousy towards Congo 🇨🇩' s wealth.
SA is fallen 💔
Was the killing of makwere bodies taken back home or close to their border? They are not human? Not only SA soldiers died.... powerful people
It sounds like South Africa is frightened of Rwanda. It cannot be typing error. Call a spade a spade and do not bullsh*t things to avoid offending Kagame. He is a warlord who has committed crimes against humanity.
Congo does Not seem interested in solutions So why should South African soldiers pay with their lives. All they care for is taking refugee in SA ???
M 23 is kagame
And Ramaphosa+Kisekedi+ndayishimiye+kayumba nyamwasa= FDLR
South Africa is playing with fire. The m23 masters very well those forests and high mountains, and no one could defeat them on their land. This year is very different from the year 2013.
M23 are Congolese (backed by Rwanda)
Its so complicated this one
Why is the ANC not sending its MK soldiers to DRC and leave our army out of this nonsense
Former MK soldiers are with Zuma, the ANC disbanded MK a long time ago
Why mnangagwa is not sending your soldiers?
Kagame and museveni there vampire there saking hutus brody
Take example on South Africa where he entered in country to kill karegeya. He is not scared of congo
Are you serious??
We are banyamurenge ( kinyarwanda speaking people), we are fighting for our
Lives, our parents are in refugee camps in Many countries of east Africa including rwanda, this why Rwanda is accused to support banyamurenge (kinyarwanda speaking people from DRC) because one of the refugee camps is located in Rwanda.
Again, Banyamurenge people has relationship with Rwandaise because before colonisation, before Berlin conference of dividing africa banyamurenge were Rwandans after of Berlin conference they became Congolese.
But the government of DRC, they didn't care and take banyamurenge as Congolese.
After the 1994 genocide against the tutsi in Rwanda under the second republic of Rwanda, the killers fleed in eastern DRC where they currently kill and eat banyamurenge because they are tutsi who live in DRC.
So M23 is the youth of banyamurenge who is still fighting for their lives.
So Don't accuse Rwanda
Blame DRC government to kill it's own people .
Why only Rwanda is accused but not other countries ?
So thats the history of eastern congo? Does it apply to all kinyarwanda speaker including Hutu and Tutsi?
The mistake you are making
Is to forget how did you reach there?
Now you will know where you come from
We have other tribe who are I congo and zambia
Angola and congo
Why they don't take weapons?
To fight their brothers ?
Only you?
Your behavior is accusing you tat you are not of this family
Because where you came from other brothers of yours are in someone house as well
Mulenge dz war?
South Africa, why you bother about Rwanda. Please know your Continent. And Tshekedi if he doesn't trade well, he will be overthrown. EAC has milions of migrant from Congo not counting other parts of the world. His morning about Rwanda. He should fix his country by uniting every tribe, french is not african language anyway.
DRC should stop using the FDLR rebels to get ride of their own people,if they want peace Shitchekide should agree to meet with M23 who are his won citizen and Rwanda their neighbour otherwise hos refusal to meet this parties gives a picture that he is benefiting from this conflicts
Kagame and museveni there vampire
South Africa must SANCTION Rwanda😊😊
Rwanda presents a real,... real,... real threat to your plundering business - you are all panicking as this is a serious threat to your bottom line. Africans doing business with each other is cause for an emergency security meeting to discuss immediate sanctions.
SA media wont remove the embarrassment of videos online circulating of raising white flags and terrified Sa army generals scared to come out 😂😂😂😂
Brother your analysis is so poor in the politics 😢
Rwanda isn't fighting in DRC just mark that and again we always ask you most especially honorable Malema and your president Ramaphosa, what is the mission of SANDF and SADC? Peacekeeping or helping Kinshasa to murder their fellow Congolese??? I hope you've never answered any of these questions? So then face the consequences as soldiers dear SADC and SANDF. Stop accusing Rwanda indeed
I apologize in the name of my crazy and narcissistic president, forgive me for all insults he insulted you it was just because you though that he is normal, but I want to ask one question: why kagame is fighting for tutsis only??? We have 3 tribes in Rwanda, tutsi, hutus and twa...why kagame is fighting for those tutsis only? Ask him plz!!!!..
mbeki need to stop spreading lies
The term Banyarwanda refers to Rwandan colonials or nationals who, between the end of World War I and 1960 emigrated to the Democratic Republic of Congo. The term is used to distinguish them from Banyamulenge, Rwandans who emigrated in a wave in the 19th century.
Mulenge is a term historically referring to mountains concentrated on the High Plateau of South Kivu, in the eastern region of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, close to the Burundi-Congo-Rwanda border. The term translates literally as "people of Mulenge", a groupement on the Itombwe plateau. The name was chosen in the early 1970s to avoid being called "Banyarwanda" and being seen as foreigners in what was then Zaire. In 1976, the word "Banyamulenge" first came into wide usage after Gisaro Muhazo, a South Kivutian deputy, began an initiative to reclassify the Banyamulenge of Mwenga, Fizi and Uvira into a single administrative entity. Muhazo's attempt failed, but the term that he introduced remained. Over the decades, it became used as a catchall label for the Rwandans living in the eastern parts
Stop also fuming the whole situation unnecessarily...
The Nation is hurting...
You think you are knowledgeable than Mbeki, Nyerere, Lumumba, Mwenda, Museveni, Etc ?
you are already exposed include these peuples you mentioned they are working for kagame "proxy war "
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M23 is kagame and museveni
SA Army are dying for money 💴, M23 are dying for their land , their future and their lives ?
M23 is fighting for what land ? Since when they are going Congolese ? If they are Congolese why Kagame is backing them up? We had election why they did not participate ?
@@fabricekabeya7184you have to ask yourself why SA fighting along side genocide perpetrators (FDLR)+FRDC+wazarendo+macenaries??? What All of those coalition needs to?
You can clearly see who make kagame to be arrogant. Trump.
Trump talk to the president ramaphosa with the same arrogance like kagame. This happened in a month.
African we must be united.
Stop putting rwanda in this conflicts please, those are congolese fighting for their rights. And i think it could be better to support them if you really want justice. Now you are defending DRC which uses mercinalies and terrorist to fight back to their people because they speak kinyarwanda but that doesn't mean they're rwandans plz.
Rwanda has attacked our troops is DRC which is not their country so this act of aggression against south africa so rwanda is enemy of SA so more weapons and soldiers must be send to counter any threats from rwanda or even hitting them on their soil that is it
Your talking nonsense...
There is no time that has shifted.....
You don’t know what you’re talking about
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Any body with some humanity who examines the plight of the Kinyarwanda speaking people of Eastern DRC would necessarily support M23, M23 are the only capable challenge to your activities and thankfully they are winning, they are our only hope. We will clean our streets secure our communities and build our country. Unless we take up arms against you, our wealth is our curse. We used to beg for mercy now with M23, we are safe and can live in peace, if in doubt, come to Bunagana, Rucuro, Masisi and now Goma.
. Mulenge dz war?why u are like this ?
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