Octopus of the Thornscrub & Other Delights

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2023
  • Manfreda longiflora is a bizarre plant that resembles an octopus with mottled purple and green tentacles sprawled out on the clay-ey, silty soils in the Peyote Gardens of South Texas. In this episode we check out the habitat and some of the obscure but remarkable plants that grow with it.
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  • @itsrachelfish
    @itsrachelfish 7 місяців тому +14

    Shifting baselines is something you bring up often in videos and I'm so glad you're calling attention to it. Most people have no idea about the history behind the landscape, "it's just dirt and rocks"
    North America used to be COMPLETELY different 500 years ago. Entire old growth ecosystems wiped out from Louisiana to Canada by humans

    • @TS-jm7jm
      @TS-jm7jm 7 місяців тому

      the endless bamboo for example that used to cover swathes of the country

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  7 місяців тому +2

      The death cult has changed a lot around here in the last 500 years!

    • @michaelgusovsky
      @michaelgusovsky 7 місяців тому +2

      yes, shifting baselines...like a man putting on a woman's dress, calling himself a woman, and many people considering that normal.
      shifting baselines, indeed.

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  7 місяців тому +27

      @@michaelgusovsky yes, what a travesty. People doing shit that you don't understand...what a threat to the world as we know it. Who cares? You're being told to worry about shit that other people do that has no effect on you yet you're not concerned that the living things that support life as we know it are crumpling like a deck of cards for the benefit of the few that can profit off of it. Come on, don't be such a sucker.

    • @michaelgusovsky
      @michaelgusovsky 7 місяців тому

      @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt you seem to have made up this false idea that i'm not concerned about the natural world around us, and vanishing native habitats - would i really be watching your channel if that was the case?
      i just like to poke fun at deranged leftists and their insanity.
      you do great videos with great info, joey, but if you're going to push looney leftist ideas, you gotta expect pushback. but you got thick skin, you can take it!

  • @JackofWhitechapel
    @JackofWhitechapel 7 місяців тому +5

    Your enthusiasm is really infectious! I love your videos. They always encourage me to take my friends out hiking to see the plants again

  • @BirdsBikes956
    @BirdsBikes956 7 місяців тому +4

    I was born and raised in the Rio grande valley and I love you watching these videos and learning about my own back yard. How often are you down here?

  • @renge3084
    @renge3084 7 місяців тому +18

    I'm excited to see any videos on restoration work in the area.
    Good work on giving the native flora the spotlight it deserves!

  • @Thankful_John
    @Thankful_John 7 місяців тому +11

    Merry Christmas Tony.. Thank you for years of wonderful content! (Hey Jack!)

  • @erwinschrodinger6578
    @erwinschrodinger6578 7 місяців тому +2

    Synapomorphy is only the kind of word u get while listenning this amazing voyage into infrabotany with this Guy...

  • @gup8175
    @gup8175 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the great videos Joey, Peace!

  • @pprins3082
    @pprins3082 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video! Nice to see a wild Manfreda. Only "Mangave" hybrids are sold here in the Netherlands. Invasive grasses can become terrible environmental disasters. In Sri Lanka, Pennisetum and especially Guinea grass (Panicum maximum) have overgrown most of the roadsides and disturbed land and form a great fire hazard. People set fire to the grass to get rid of it, but then it only comes back stronger. Cars can be heard in your video, and supposedly, the Manfreda etc grow along a highway. The creation of roadside reserves is a great way to preserve rare native flora. In the wheatbelt of Western Australia, roadside reserves are the only remaining refuges of some plant species. Fortunately, there was the foresight to be legally obliged to leave a strip of native bushland along highways when millions of acres were cleared for farmland there.

  • @KayentaRojo
    @KayentaRojo 7 місяців тому +4

    Dude Texas has the most bad ass flora in the US! I have been obsessed with the insane diversity of Southwest Texas for a long fucking time. Feliz Navidad Puto!

  • @chuxmix65
    @chuxmix65 7 місяців тому +2

    Awesome!

  • @missvidabom
    @missvidabom 7 місяців тому +6

    9:08 “One of the sluttiest” had me dying. THIS is why I love listening to you. This is how you educate someone. On the exam, “Which of the following species is the sluttiest and meanest and will ruin Christmas?”

  • @CIB8282
    @CIB8282 7 місяців тому +3

    Another banger

  • @OutboundShane
    @OutboundShane 7 місяців тому +17

    Just watched this on Fakebook (only there to watch videos) and when I opened UA-cam it was the first video suggested. Very worth the re-watch keep on educating about how the human occupied land could be better if it was closer to nature. Have a happy new year and GFY bye.

  • @richardlynch1094
    @richardlynch1094 7 місяців тому +8

    Happy New Year Joe! Here's to a new great year of botany ahead!

  • @diegop2311
    @diegop2311 7 місяців тому +4

    Feliz Navidad bro

  • @Evil_Deadite
    @Evil_Deadite 7 місяців тому +1

    I havent seen your stuff pop up in awhile, so stoked to see it to make sure that bell button is pushed. Always loved your content.

  • @jacobjerny7502
    @jacobjerny7502 7 місяців тому +5

    I wonder if Forestiera could be sold as a native alternative to the dreaded Ligustrums? The genus are literally called American privets

  • @michaelhockus8208
    @michaelhockus8208 7 місяців тому

    great lesson, thanks for sharing!

  • @Invading-Specious
    @Invading-Specious 7 місяців тому +1

    Positive new Solstice! , X

  • @Somethinghumble
    @Somethinghumble 7 місяців тому +1

    Going to miss old spikey grandpa once he gets choked out by the cowboy's whoopsadaisy.

  • @lainecolley1414
    @lainecolley1414 7 місяців тому +2

    Liverworts are wild. The kind in the great lakes uses long, single cell cilia to hold itself in place. Weird

  • @wolfofaspen
    @wolfofaspen 7 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmas to the dawgs!!

  • @anaritamartinho1340
    @anaritamartinho1340 7 місяців тому

    I love the old grandparent😊 The flower of Passiflora have a beautiful strange shape😅

  • @junkettarp8942
    @junkettarp8942 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for another awesome video Joey and crew.

  • @kolapyellow7631
    @kolapyellow7631 5 місяців тому

    Wooo. He's a walking plant encyclopedia. 😂😂😂😂

  • @The_Savage_Wombat
    @The_Savage_Wombat 7 місяців тому +3

    I want this plant.

  • @danieldow3094
    @danieldow3094 7 місяців тому

    Exactly how I feel about cholla scrub. Ya, you laymens don't appreciate the ambrosia chenopodiifolias, or all the modified spines on the lyciums, but the habitat it creates and the feeling being immersed in that alliance are bar none.

  • @huttone
    @huttone 7 місяців тому

    Thanks

  • @megarden3337
    @megarden3337 7 місяців тому

    First hand Like👍, second hand Look📺!

  • @anotherluckydad
    @anotherluckydad 7 місяців тому

    Merry Christmas To You and your's, from the Schmucks in Taxachusetts.

  • @TheEudaemonicPlague
    @TheEudaemonicPlague 7 місяців тому

    If I can find some to put in a pot, I'll grow some. I only have two cactus right now--stupid things keep happening to them. My wife put them out in the sun after they'd been inside for the winter--so they burned. Here, it isn't as easy to find cactus, though my mother had prickly pear in her yard....amazing how they thrived despite Illinois winters. She ended up digging them up, because they kept spreading.

  • @specialj6784
    @specialj6784 7 місяців тому

    Hay g.f.u's happy new year
    Looking forward to ice cold darkness and traction loss endless scoops of yellow snow and wet boots

    • @specialj6784
      @specialj6784 7 місяців тому

      Elon stole your catch line buddy I am now hopefull
      Culture might use "go fuck yourself " become the aloha of our common valgur language thank you for your cultural contribution with g.f.u to you you sir stuck to your guns

  • @edwardvarby4363
    @edwardvarby4363 7 місяців тому +1

    That is a beautiful plant, but no one has seeds online.

  • @major_nobody311
    @major_nobody311 7 місяців тому +1

    While you're looking at the plants I'm looking at the rocks.

  • @user-wv1mb9yc3b
    @user-wv1mb9yc3b 7 місяців тому

    78 years ago at Christmas Aunt Eva (Young) always visited at Christmas. At that time she was a professor at McGill University in Montreal. When she was studying for her degree she lived alone in a sod hut on the Canadian prairie which she had built herself. That grass you hate might make good building material.

  • @mynameisnotcory
    @mynameisnotcory 7 місяців тому

    Was on a walk in Arlington TX, and i come across a christmas cholla deep in the woods on some iron rich rocks…was the strangest find ive found in a while!

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 7 місяців тому

    4:10 the lack of patios is likely to be an adaptation to the lack of shady conditions since there is no need to reach out for more sun light

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  7 місяців тому +1

      Lack of petioles is more likely an adaptation to the dry conditions. Fascicled leaves experience less air flow which is a dessicating factor.

  • @sagetmaster4
    @sagetmaster4 7 місяців тому +1

    Good thing the American west dried out over hundreds of thousands of years and we get all of these cool drought adapted plants

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  7 місяців тому +1

      Much longer actually. Exciting doesn't happen that fast

    • @sagetmaster4
      @sagetmaster4 7 місяців тому

      @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt tbh I didn't know the timescale and Google was really frustrating my attempts at finding an answer, can you give me a climatology paper name or something?

  • @bobbywright3479
    @bobbywright3479 7 місяців тому

    You ought to go to conchol county around paint rock south of San Angelo. We were there to gawk at the pictographs by the concho river. We saw the ibervilea there along with a multitude of a beautiful yuccas and horse cripplers.

  • @PenntuckytheCrag
    @PenntuckytheCrag 7 місяців тому

    Love that Man fredo

  • @tie-dye-cacti
    @tie-dye-cacti 7 місяців тому +4

    Another great video! Honest question, as I'm not a botanist and only have a few years of amateur research into plant groups that interest me... how does splitting genus make it easier to learn about the evolution and relationships of a plant group? When I research, i think lumping makes it easier to understand relationships and definitely have a better idea what will hybrodize. If subfamilies and higher classifications were more organized, then splitting up genus would make sense. I dont know if higher classifications are better organized outside of cactaceae, but cactus subfamilies look like a dumpster fire. Trichocereae is all split up, and a lot of genus seem to hybridize, but its really hard to figure out which are closer related. I dont know, maybe I just want more cladograms lol.

    • @sebastianmarquez3014
      @sebastianmarquez3014 7 місяців тому +2

      I like to think that part of the problem is scientific nomenclature developed before we had an understanding of phylogeny. Cause understanding the evolutionary relationships is different than naming them. And of course there's the healthy arguments of species complexes.

    • @tie-dye-cacti
      @tie-dye-cacti 7 місяців тому

      ​@@sebastianmarquez3014 I just thought of an example that could show how splitting can be better for understanding. I dont know much about Euphorbias, but certain ones hybridize, so if Euphorbia was accurately split up based on genetics, we could more easily understand what's related to what. It would still need need more higher classifications though. I have a feeling that adding genetic testing into the diagnostic mix will slow or stop the changes in scientific names.

  • @user-cv6rl2qy1g
    @user-cv6rl2qy1g 7 місяців тому

    Brassica's will rule this world. Mark my words.

  • @myrmepropagandist
    @myrmepropagandist 7 місяців тому

    If you want to see the part with the ant again here is the link to the time code: ua-cam.com/video/emAT9yhqbUw/v-deo.html
    I think it's Myrmecocystus melliger? or maybe placodops? I think that was a honeypot ant looking for some honey so she could go home to all her fat sister underground.
    if I'm right the nest entrance would be nearby, a little cone shaped mound of sand and underground chambers filled with ants with bottoms the size of grapes hanging from the ceiling.
    Love these videos!

  • @polsyg6581
    @polsyg6581 6 місяців тому

    the passionflower i had in se texas was a good tranquilizer, just dry leaves and flowers and make a tea, fruits inedible sadly, may be in the right soil idk how that works.
    gone from this spot due to a mild development but so are a lot of things, i feel like its overuse of pesticides esp. the residential ones they offer, prob something we should pass laws to limit. when i think of how many more birbs there mustve been back when the place was new and there werent shitty developments farther out it makes me feel all kinds of ways. i hope normans think about this too and try to do sth about it.

  • @geoffbreen2386
    @geoffbreen2386 7 місяців тому

    Buffelgrass is spreading in western parts of central Queensland.
    Because it outcompetes native grasses it is one of the major threats to the survival of the Northern Hairy Nosed Wombat.

    • @polsyg6581
      @polsyg6581 6 місяців тому

      cant they cut or spray it back? maybe use goats, get a couple directionless zoomers to do the work, tax energy cos to fund it

  • @howwitty
    @howwitty 7 місяців тому

    cool

  • @blurfs3763
    @blurfs3763 7 місяців тому +1

    I have a 100 or so Caesalpinia gillesii seeds. Should I propagate them?

  • @cristinataliani5619
    @cristinataliani5619 7 місяців тому

    This habitat has a lot of botanical interest but it sure is not very photogenic!!! For most people it is just a patch of weeds and rocks!!!

  • @robynmonet1231
    @robynmonet1231 7 місяців тому +1

    Youve been doing alot in Texas. Did you move there or just visit alot? I thought you were in California

  • @troygoss6400
    @troygoss6400 7 місяців тому +2

    Amazing bio region. Like all of " meriika " it's turning into sub division 😢

  • @krrowthemyuii
    @krrowthemyuii 5 місяців тому

    Do all passionflowers (Passiflora) grow as a vine?

  • @PenntuckytheCrag
    @PenntuckytheCrag 7 місяців тому +1

    That passion flower looks a bit like an orchid

  • @Don-Kedik
    @Don-Kedik 7 місяців тому

    has anyone ever hybridized Mandreda virginica x Agave parryi? kinda like all the mangave decorative hybrids but could be hardy

  • @residentenigma7141
    @residentenigma7141 7 місяців тому

    Lumping bad ? Yes !
    I've been a plant pest ie. commercial seed/flower collector, self-teaching botanical artist(the clever plants are actually teaching me! ) and fascinated about the natural ecological exchanges/influences surrounding plants.
    My first exposure to the lumping/splitting war, was the lumping of Dryandra into Banksia. I thought about it often while out bush and lumping is not for me for a few reasons, including your own...may as well call everything a fucken Magnolia 😆!!
    So yeah, if if you ever have the time, $ or inclination to come to Australia again, you could come to south eastern W.A. You'll shit your pants at the variety, diversity and exchange occuring here.
    Love your work !

    • @WastrelWay
      @WastrelWay 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes. I looked on wikipedia and the article there accepts that Manfreda has been lumped into the genus Agave. The article begins, "Manfreda WAS a genus..." and refers you to the taxonomy section of the Agave article, which acknowledges that the genus Agave is now paraphyletic, and calls it "Agave sensu lato". I'm likewise in favor of splitting to recognize the different ancestries of the plants, even if all the names are harder to remember.

  • @Fabdanc
    @Fabdanc 7 місяців тому

    What I see is a degraded landscape that needs intensive grazing via cows to restore it back to being a healthy grassland.
    (I am joking.)

  • @joyg2526
    @joyg2526 7 місяців тому

    is it possible to relocate some of these plants?

  • @JacquesTreehorn
    @JacquesTreehorn 7 місяців тому

    When Manfreda longiflora sends a spike does that mean it is nearing its end of life in a last ditch chance to procreate or it is a sign of health?

  • @ja.8077
    @ja.8077 7 місяців тому

    Support comment Merry Christmas

  • @mooonie6634
    @mooonie6634 7 місяців тому +3

    If people and their governments don't wake the hell up PDQ I'll planting cactus seeds in my really large 'burb kinda sorta like a lawn (it gets no human attention whatsoever) because for the last couple of weeks we've been braking temperature records like crazy up here in MN. The lawns have been greening up for days now and it's the almost the end of December. It's scary. Good thing I love cactus and succulents but this shit isn['t natural.

    • @mooonie6634
      @mooonie6634 7 місяців тому +1

      breaking, not braking, sorry

    • @bartendersdaughter6003
      @bartendersdaughter6003 7 місяців тому

      As I sit here in Chicago on December 26th, my daffodils bulbs are more than 3"inches high when it should be 25deg with 9"inches of snow. Merry Effing Christmas.